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<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Nice to meet you all. </interlocutor>
<spall> Nice to meet you too. </spall>
<interlocutor> Are you ready? </interlocutor>
<spall> Yes. </spall>
<interlocutor> Good morning, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Yes. </spall>
<spall> Good morning, teacher. </spall>
<interlocutor> Er... could you please tell me your name and the number of your admission ticket? Let's start from number 1. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Er my name is ***. And my number is 2622. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. Good. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***, and my number is 2853. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Good. Thank you. </interlocutor>
<sp3> My name is ***, and my number is 2922 </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. Good. Er now would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. Ok? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. Er my name is ***, and I'm from Changchun city. I am a local. And this year I am 20 years old. My my home town is Changchun, of course. And I like watching football matches, and listening to music, reading books, and so on. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. Very good. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***, and I was born in Jilin city of Jilin province [Wv-m], so I am a true ??? girl. And in my spare time, I like to reading books, reading from literature to science. And I also like listen listening to music, especially pop music. And I can keep talking long about the Backstreet [Mck] Boys in west life. And I am also a sports fan. I like football, basketball, particularly tennis. Yeah, that's all, thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Good. Thank you. </interlocutor>
<sp3> I am ***. and my major is medicine ?? medicine. And in my favorite time er and [Md] in my spare time my favorite is with my instrument, guitar and I play with it and kill time. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Er now that we know each other we can do some group work. First of all, I'd like you er to ask each of you a question. Ok? From ***. And listen to me. Er what is the usual size of a traditional Chinese family? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Pardon? </sp1>
<interlocutor> What is the usual size </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Size? <sp1>
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<interlocutor> er of a traditional Chinese family? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Traditional? Mm Maybe three. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Er, what do you think of it? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Sorry. Can you use another word [Md] to explain it to me? </sp1>
<interlocutor> er... What is the usual size? Big or small? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Traditional? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Traditional. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Tra- traditional is big [Mg]. But nowadays </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Now, what do you think of it? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Maybe grandpa, grandma, father, mother.. And have a lot of er uncles and aunts. And brothers and [Md] sisters. </sp1>
<interlocutor> What do you think of it? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm...... It's... traditional? I think it's good. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yeah. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Because [Pau-r] it is very maybe you will think it's it's crowded in one family. But sometimes you will have maybe you have brother and sisters. And you have some somebody to accompany you, to play with you and when some festivals come you will have a big family get- together. And have a big dinner is very very good. I think. The feeling is good. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Very good. Yeah. Now, ***, listen to me. What do you think of those people who prefer not to have children? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well, er the [Wth-l] most concern er they [Wth-l] must they [Wth-l] have is that [Wth-l] their [Wth-l] career because they [Wth-l] think the [Wth-l] most important thing in his life is the [Wth-l] the [Wth-l] job and they [Wth-l] want to do good in his job. So he don't er want to can he want to concentrate [Wo-ae] on his job and he wan-wan-wan- want er sorry I am too nervous and she er... and she er don't he don't want to take this [Wth-l] er take marriage into consideration er in a short run. Maybe in a long run he would he would take this into consideration. But recently he only want to concentrate on his job. And yeah. </sp2>
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<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. That's enough. Good. *** er...... now most families in China have only one child. </interlocutor>
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<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Do you think this will cause any problems? </interlocutor>
<sp3> En until [Wl-r] now, it has caused many problems. My idea is that you know in China many two parents are both working. And they not like westerns. And you know usually the mothers have time to spend with their child. The children in most cases er feel lonely. Some so on in most cases they just play with TV and some TV er games. And this will cause some mental problems. As many study studies have reported the people the child have some problem to communicate with each other to other true persons. Especially when they are after they are going to schools, and so er I don't think this will help for the children to grow up as fully quality for adults. </sp3>
<interlocutor> So it is a problem. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Sure it is a very serious problem. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yes, yes. Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is the big or small families. Er, each of you will be given a card with two pictures. I'd like you to talk about er the advantages and disadvantages for for families with one child or many children. Er you will have one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. Er don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now here are your cards. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spall>
<interlocutor> Ok, now Miss ***. Er now would you please begin and *** *** please put your cards aside and listen to what Miss *** has to say. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Em er...... advantages and disadvantages of family with many children? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yeah. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Em, first of all if a family er have many children, and the wife the housewife mm after he clean the house maybe sooner or later his his work will be ruined by the children because children are very active they will do many things all the time. And while [Wi-ei] you were doing this and suddenly you will discover that. A ch- a ch- a child maybe er thrush [Wr-l] something on the ground and ruin your carpet [We-er]. You will have to do that again. Later you will find [Wi-au] er another children another child sorry em another child er put put something down on the ground. And the glass may be broken. And you have to to do that. Er it is er the disadvantage of of the family with many children. So if you er if one family have only one child [Wi-ei], and the mother can send him or her to to school. And after she had cleaned up the the house. No one would interrupt her or interfere her. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, ok. Very good. Now ***, it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Er the advantage [Md] of one have a big family I think is there [Wth-l] are many children in a family. They [Wth-l] have sisters or bothers [Wth-l]. So they [Wth-l] can play er play with each other and fun with each other. So they [Wth-l] won't get the feeling of loneliness. So en there are child [Wi-ei] who would be very colorful and full of funny [Wu-e]. And er the disadvan-disadvantage [Md] of having a big family is that the [Wth-l] mother [Wth-l] have to take too much care of their [Wth-l] children [Pn-z]. For example, if the [Wth-l] er...... sometimes he has to she has to take take care of her baby. But in the main [Wai-i:] time the other children [Pn-z] will er when there are other children are play together they will have some er some trouble [Wou-ae]. They will fight even fight with each other. So at this [Wth-l] time the father [Wth-l], the mother [Wth-l] will er get into themselves [Wth-l] get into them [Wth-l] this [Wth-l] children and to solve their [Wth-l] problem. So this [Wth-l] no doubt er the [Wth-l] mother [Wth-l] have not enough ener-energy to take care of every [Mv] children. So </sp2>
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<interlocutor> Ok. Please stop here. ***, it's your turn. </interlocutor>
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<sp3> Yeah. In my pictures, and if you have if the parents have more children [Pn-z], they will need more money and more energy and more time to take care of the three child in the family. You see in this first picture, it is very crowded room and small rooms for three child living together. And they will interrupt to each other in their age difference. Someone has to go to school, and someone is still er learn to walk. So there is in most cases we will not er interrupt the students. And in and very illustrate problem is that small children need more money and energy to give them chance to get study. Most cases in China is that er the children er in the big family er maybe brother or sister were sacrificed for their little sister or little brother for their study for their study in the university. And they will got of jobs more early than the most er common students. One reason er the advantage that the parents will will concentrate their money and energy to their only one children. And they will culturate them er most on their own ability and on their own condition. And see sometimes most cases that the children may be spoiled. They have this dangerous possibility. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. That's enough. All right, now we all have some idea [Pa-r] about the advantages and disadvantages of the family with one child or many children. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on the ideal size of family. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You will have about four and a half minutes for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember during the discussion you should try to come on an agreement on the ideal size of family. You may start. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Em, in my opinion, I think a family with one child is all right, is better than with many children. Er, for... we were the, we are already the one child. We will [P2l-r] ......consequence one child [Wi-ei] policy. Since </sp1>
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<sp2> I agree with you. </sp2>
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<sp3> Will you feel lonely when you are alone at home and there is nobody accompany with you? </sp3>
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<sp2> But you will become independent. </sp2>
<sp3> What is independent???? </sp3>
<sp2> Other side of the this [Wth-l] point. Everything has two sides you know. So there are also advantage [Md] and disadvantage [Md]. But as to our country's [Wou-e] situation, every family have can can only offer the one child [Wi-ei]. The the parents have to offer their [Wth-l] education, er their [Wth-l] health, or their [Wth-l] future jobs. So the parents will take everything [Mv] into considerations. They only have the energy to er take care of one child [Wi-ei]. And on the other hand, er, now a common family have not too much money [Wo-e], and </sp2>
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<sp3> but but your condition our living condition and our salaries is raising and since our opening and reform. </sp3>
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<sp1> No, just just the salary rise rises little. But don't you think the tuition also rises very high? </sp1>
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<sp3> Now we are in big countries and we are talking about the families. </sp3>
<sp1> Families are, so you prefer the the size of big? </sp1>
<sp3> Not too many but not too many. In my opinion, what's the ideal condition? I think is two babies is enough. </sp3>
<sp1> Two babies is enough? </sp1>
<sp2> Another consideration you should take take is our country's [Mou-e] population. Our country [Mou-e] population is too big. For the [Wth-l] every family to have a more than one child [Mi-ei]. </sp2>
<sp3> Actually, the the people who born here at this time, they will be suffered with the result of the big population in the next next century. And but our one child policy have got very apparent results and er from this policy. And that's you know in Taiwan, er their policy of the reproduction is the two childs is ok. And still from the growth from the aspect of the child growth, you know how much is the mental problems. </sp3>
<sp1> Only one child is ok, I think. I don't feel lonely in in the family. And if a family have one child [Wi-ei] and he can he can get something from his parents and also he must open himself or herself to the society [Pe-r] to meet others. And to know </sp1>
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<sp2> And to communicate with each other. </sp2>
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<sp1> Yes. </sp1>
<sp2> And pra- prac- practice is ability and other abilities. </sp2>
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<sp3> That's quite </sp3>
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<sp2> to adapt into the society easily. </sp2>
<sp3> in the condition that the child have the ability to communicate. You know when in most cases this skill is formed since the child. And but they you know one family have only one child. And most cases the parents will </sp3>
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<sp2> Will spoil him. </sp2>
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<sp3> No, no. They don't want to harm this their child. They don't want to connect them to other bad things. If the child, because the parents are both working they don't have the time to take care of them. </sp3>
<sp1> And this is a good chance for the child [Wi-ei] to be more independent, I think. </sp1>
<sp3> But the child don't have the ability to dis- distinguish what is good what is bad. </sp3>
<sp1> But when there are two two children in our family there are generation gap. Maybe there are no generation gap between the two children. So do you think the bigger [Pr-z] the bigger elder sister will look after the younger one? I don't think so. </sp1>
<sp3> At least they will communicate to each other. </sp3>
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<sp1> He can communicate with others. With other friends. </sp1>
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<sp2> He can make friends in a large variety. </sp2>
<sp1> Maybe in a kindergarten </sp1>
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<sp3> But most parents' concern is that they don't permit their child to communicate to others. Because you know in the child communication there is the person that parents don't know what is good person or bad person. In most cases the parents will close their child only in the family. </sp3>
<sp2> But really they have to take </sp2>
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<sp1> He has cousins. </sp1>
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<sp2> Maybe he will be failed on some some typical situations. But he has to face up with it. And in this [Wth-l] process he will learn what is good and what is not good. And this [Wth-l] he will get rich experience. And in each character, also in the long run gradually she will grow more and more mature mature. And know many things nice. </sp2>
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<interlocutor> All right. Sorry to interrupt you. And but time is up. Em that's the end of the discussion. Now I would like to ask you just one last question on the topic of big or small families. And </interlocutor>
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<sp1> From me? </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Miss ***, er do you think young people would like to live with their parents after they graduate from college? </interlocutor>
<sp1> No. From the er? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp1> From the point of my opinion, I I felt no. Because after graduate, en when I enter the college I thought today, today, I I will graduate will come family. And at that time I will have found my own job. And I can I can live the life with my not only myself but the style [Wy-ei] of my ideal style of living. And em in the society [Pe-r] I can er do a lot of things to support myself. And I do not have the need to ask my parents for money any more. And sometimes I can go back to to visit them and... to see them so I I think it is better for for adult especially the adult with a little ability en he can or she can make a living by herself. That's all. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, it is a good idea. And er...... ***, er ok, do you think young people would like to live with their parents after they get married? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well, I don't think so. Because nowadays young man go to work go to work without er far away from their [Wth-l] parents. And they [Wth-l] have their [Wth-l] own life and er maybe after their [Wth-l] marriage, they [Wth-l] have their [Wth-l] own house and their [Wth-l] own plans to how to live their own life. So I don't think they [Wth-l] will, most in most cases the young man will not choose the choice to live together with their [Wth-l] parents. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Ok, that's enough. Oh, ***, er who in your family has had the greatest influence on you? </interlocutor>
<sp3> I think my mother. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, can you give us some examples? </interlocutor>
<sp3> And a very especial example is about my habits. And my habits of my temper. My temper is quite like my mother. And in most cases because my father, is a ministry [Ms] officer. And he er when I was young, he was er quite far away from my family. And I almost in most cases I was living with my mother and my mother tell and teach me and give the chance to live and ??? on most case and most times I was with my mother. So I think and I have showed my habits and my temper very assemble to my mother. So also some studies had shown that the child are more influenced by their mothers. </sp3>
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<interlocutor> Ok, ok. Very good example. That's the end. Thank you everybody. </interlocutor>
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<spall> Thank you. Good-bye. </spall>
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