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<participant interlocutor=1 speaker=3> </participant>
<speaker sp1=female sp2=male sp3=female> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<sp1> My name [Wn-l] is ***, and my number is er 011241. </sp1>
<interlocutor> mm, you please. </interlocuotor>
<sp3> My name [Wn-l] is ***. My ticket [Met] number [Wn-l] is 1293. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Wait, wait, wait, ***? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yeah, ***. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Here? </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***, my number is 1283. </sp2>
<interlocutor> You two now please change the seats. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Mine is three. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Candidate two, right? Candidate two or three? </interlocutor>
<sp2> I am seeing to be three. Yes, we had to exchange seats perhaps. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Like this please, like this. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Now would you please briefly introduce yourself to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. Ok, now Miss ***, please. </interlocutor>
<sp1> My name [Wn-l] is ***, I major in medicine, and I will be a doctor in the future. Er I will service [S2] [Wv-f] all the people and the whole society [Wie-ir]. Er in everyday life, I I careful reading some books, and [Pd-er] playing basketball [Wb-p], er sometimes I careful going shopping and traveling. That's all. </sp1>
<sp2> My name is ***, I major in thethe major of social labor and social security, it's a new major. And the Chinese social security reform is is developing very quickly, and I I am determined [Min] to devote all my energy and my time and to this to this great this great project. And I I don't like I don't like shopping very much, and I spent most of most of my my time in classroom, and in libraries, etc. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Mn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Spend most of most of my my time </sp2>
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<interlocutor> Mn, Miss ***. </interlocutor>
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<sp3> I am a common girl in the big world [Ml], but [Wt-z] [Pt-er] it really doesn't matter, I like the [Wth-z] world [Ml]. I always keep smiling. I I in my spare time, I enjoy hm sports, reading, writing, and thinking. And I think [Wth-d] one day I can publish my own novels and poems. That's all. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, good. Ok, now that we've known each other, we can do some group work. Now first of all, I'd like to ask each of you one question. Now, Miss ***, please. Do you think it's possible for every middle school graduates to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Erm I I think [Wth-s] maybe in in the long [Wl-n] run it's it's possible hm for the for every middle er students to go to college go to university. Bu since the hm er with the development of the society [Wie-ir], we need people with er we need qualified [Wl-n] er workers, qualified [Wl-n] students, er so I think [Wth-s] er going to university is mm necessary [S2] for most of for most of our hm people, maybe maybe is not impossible at at the moment. But [Pt-er] hm in the long [Wl-n] run it will come true, I think [Wth-s]. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Mn, ok, good. Now, Mr. ***. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Yes. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Do you think night schools are a good form of higher education? </interlocutor>
<sp2> I think it's a very good form of education, especially... for example, because of many reasons many people especially the er... the elderly people, those the those people in thirties and forties are deprived of their right to go to college when they are still young. And they are and they'll be able to go to night universities, you know the night universities do not take up too much of their their working time. And besides, by by doing by learning at by studying at night, they'll be able to get more knowledge. It's a very good way of professional training. And they'll be able to... to get the self-actualization and get a very high er much higher salary because it's a very good way of human capital investment. So I think it's a very important means of of education. Since I major in this, hm I'm a I am public affairs major, and I also devote all my life in pursuing this test, let everyone everybody have the right to education, because all men are created equal. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, good. Now, Miss ***, do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp3> A college education? </sp3>
<interlocutor> Mn. </interlocutor> 
<sp3> Yes, I think it's quite important. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Because hm I think education is very important for country's development, if there're many people there [Wth-z] are more and more people going to college [P2e-i]
and I think that [Wth-z] will that [Wth-z] will show that the education has a great development of the in the country. Hm if there're [Wth-z] more people have further education, and the [Wth-z] the whole [Pe-r] the whole [Pe-r] quality will be improved. I think it's [Wt-g] it's [Wt-g] very important. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your chart. You'll have one minute to prepare, and each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you, when time is up. Now here are your cards. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Now, Mr. ***, would you please begin? Miss *** and Miss ***, please put your charts aside, and listen to what Mr. *** has to say. Please. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Here's a graph as to the increase and percentage of applicants with more than two years' experience, we can see that in nineteen eighty there's only thirty-five of the of the people with two with two years or more working experience, that percentage is not very high. But five years later, this this number increased the number increased by four percent in nineteen eighty-five, then... the number only increased very slightly for the next fourteen years, for we can see in nineteen ninety-nine, only two percent more people had had more two year or more working experience or more or more experience, but there is a dramatic change in... in the year two thousand, because the number... because the number rose from forty-one percent to fifty-three percent, the incre... there has been an increase of twelve percent for for one year, in nineteen in the year twenty thousand. That's all... ... but I think the incre... but of course I think although the increase is, the percentage of increase is not very high, but the applicants are incre... the applicants very increase increased very rapidly, so I think the the people with more working experience are in are increasing. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, ok, now Miss ***, please it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp3> I like to I like to ex explain this chart from three ways. First hm from the chart we can see that there are... ... hm, first we can see there [Wth-z] are... hm, a big increase in the percent of female graduate students from the nineteen eighty to twenty thousand. That [Wth-z] is a big change from erm from female female status, I think [Wth-s], that [Wth-z] can show that that [Wth-z] can show, a big a big a big improvement of women's status... erm... First I think [Wth-s] it's [Wt-g] because of the edu... the improvement of education, more and more women more and more female students are in... are take... sorry, maybe I can explain it in this way. With the education, with more and more education of women, and women have realized that it's [Wt-g] not a world [Ml] of the male dominant, so... hm... that's [Wth-z] to say the the, that [Wth-z] is to say, that [Wth-z] is a realization of women themselves, hm... </sp3>
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<interlocutor> Ok, ok, now Miss ***, now it's your turn. </interlocutor>
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<sp1> From the picture, we can relax the following [Mow] informations. Er we can see the numbers of students the number of applicants [Wa-o] from 1980 to hm to 2000, increased very rapidly [Md], but the number of students in ??? er increased very slowly [Wl-n] ,and in 1980s, the numbers of applicant [Wa-o] of numbers in ???. Er the distance is is not very big, but in 2000, the distance is is so is so big, I I think [Wth-s] with development of society [Wie-ir] maybe the competition is drastic, so hm so er many er students want to hm go to uni university, oh want to be graduate, hm want to be go to university, and improve improve them their skill, so... and [Pd-er] we can see and... er... how to say, and [Pd-er] hm from nineteen nineteen eighty to nieeteen two two thousand, erm the two the numbers of... ... </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Right, right, now we all have some idea of the enrollment of graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further, and see if you can agree on whether graduate education [Medu] is essential for a successful career. During the discussion, you may argue with each other, or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You will have about four and a half minutes for the discussion and your performance will be judged by your contribution to the discussion. Remember during the discussion you should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education [Medu] is essential for a successful career. Ok, now go ahead please. </interlocutor>
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<sp2> Ladies first. </sp2>
<sp3> Mm, ok. In my opinion, I think [Wth-s] it's necessary [Mce] for a ??? ??? ??? for the successful career, because nowadays as we as we all know, competition [S2] [We-er] is very fierce, and the knowledge is is demanded more and more, er is demanded very much. I think [Wth-s] the further the further study is very important for for one's competition [S2] [We-e]. Hm, that's my opinion. </sp3>
<sp1> And... I I think [Wth-s] most of the erm most of the college [Wll-n] students want to erm... want to be graduate students, because erm they they all they all know because we all know the condition is so drastic and everyone don't want to be laid [Wl-n] out, so er they want to study further, just just as a means. So I think [Wth-s] hm... with the development of society [Wie-ir] be a graduate student is very necessary [S2]. Do you think so? </sp1>
<sp3> I agree with you. </sp3>
<sp2> Let me express it this way. For most people, hm in my... that the college college education is a prerequisite for their for their career excellence. Erm according to a sta statistical report, more than ninety percent of the of the eli elites [S1] [W1e-e] or the successful people are nurtured [M2ur] by the college by the college or universities, they all come they all have at least bachelor's degree, or master's degree, even doctor's degree. So I think you can get systematic kno... you can be systematically e educated in the colleges or universities. You can get a... a wider range of the knowledge, you can you can also the college education also can broaden your horizon, you can meet a lot of people, you can meet you can have a lot of opportunities. In this way I agree with you. But to some people, not a, to some people college education perhaps just is not necessary, for example, Bill Gates, he did not have any college education, but his but this did not prevent him from racing along the from racing along the way to professional excellence. Here is Microsoft, one of the biggest software companies in the world, but of course we have only one Bill Gates. </sp2>
<sp1> <sp3> Yeah. </sp1> </sp3>
<sp2> So it's ve... notoriously difficult for us to have a second Bill Gates, so as far as our common people concerned, I I strongly recommend that everybody receive a higher education. </sp2>
<sp1> Yes, maybe you are you are right. But I think [Wth-s] for most of us er it's very necessary [S2], just ??? mean. Er... since I study medicine, maybe if I ju erm... if I erm get a doctor's deg... a master's degree or doctor degree, I will find a good job, I think [Wth-s]. </sp1>
<sp3> Absolutely I... I think [Wth-s] hm besides besides... eh finding er a good er job, I think [Wth-s] success is have different meaning for different people... mm... Maybe... I think [Wth-s] find... go on study, go on... if we have the enrolled of gradu graduate students, we have only go on with our further study, and also we can find more, we can leave us more time before we go to university. Because after we we are students, all the all these years university [Muni] students and we have no little [W1l-n] chances of going society, I think it may be a a little delay to go into university. I think that will be one ??? </sp3>
<interlocutor> All right, all right. That's the end of the discussion, now I'd like to ask you just one last question on the topic on enrollment of graduate students. Now Miss *** Please. Now, have you ever thought of studying for a Ph.D in future? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Erm, maybe er I've never er from er since from now [Wn-l] on maybe I I will I will thought think of study that, but I have erm... but I in the past I've thought of that. Since my... I am busy every day, so I always have to study since there are so many lessons, erm I always the first thing I hm always thinking now is to study hard, and to prepare for my hm graduate graduate examination. And so erm since I want to be a graduate student, I always went to... how to study my major, and [Pd-er] hm and to study English. So er I have never thought of that, but [Pt-er] if I have some change, maybe I will study that, mm... I think mm... maybe it's erm very necessary [S2] for some of us, but [Pt-er] I think if... er... maybe maybe I will... mm... sorry. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, ok, now Miss ***. Bill Gates didn't even finish university, do you think it's necessary to get a university degree? </interlocutor>
<sp3> To get a... er... I think [Wth-s] hm... just like *** said, there's just one Bill Gates, I think [Wth-s] not everyone not everyone should should become Bill Gates, everyone has has his own life [Wl-n], for many for most people, it's very necessary [Mce] to get a hm to get to get a doctor's degree, and it's very necessary [Mce] to finish university, because it's the best education for for many people I think [Wth-s]. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, Mr. ***, would you change your major if you would study for a Master's degree? </interlocutor>
<sp2> I don't have I don't have plan to change my major. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp2> First my major is a very new major, and social security reform is has just has just begun [Wu-e], and there are a lot of career opportunities for me. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Mn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> So if you want to do thing well, you have you have to do two things, either you will do much better than others, or you can have your own career, you go a different road, you have different quite different career from other people, you can also achieve career excellence. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Mn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Second, I...  perhaps perhaps my major can't can't gives me can't gives me much money, I will not be well paid for this major, perhaps. But I think self-actualization is much more important than your income, I don't want to be affluent, but I really want to do something for the people, because there're so many so many people especially so many poor senior citizens, you know ??? my parents come from the country come from the country. And they also they always tell me the misery stories about the peasants. Thirdly, I think the major in a... the major in our university is very strong. I think I can get I can become more successful in this career, if I change to another career, I I will suffer from from losing many opportunities, and suffering from paying many opportunity costs. I don't think I have much talents in other in other other fields, like engineering, or economics, or other fields, I think I have... Comparatively speaking, I have much more talent in this field, so I up to now I don't have any plans for changing my major. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, that's the end of the test. Thank you, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spall>
<sp2> Have a nice day. </sp2>
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