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<speaker sp1=female sp2=female sp3=female> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Ok, good afternoon, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Good afternoon, Madam. </spall>
<interlocutor> Er could you please tell me your name and the number of your ticket? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. My name is ***. My ticket number is 0771. </sp1>
<sp2> Er my name is ***. The number is 1749. </sp2>
<sp3> Er my name is ***. The number is 1810. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Thank you. Would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? </interlocutor>
<spall> Ok. </spall>
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<interlocutor> Remember, you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Er, ??? ??? since I entered the university. I've... I inter I'm very interested in it. So I spend most of my time studying. And at other times, I have also I also have some other hobbies, such as playing basketball, playing table tennis, and so on. And </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Ok. </interlocutor>
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<sp2> Mn I'm *** from the journal department. I'm a junior. Er I like my major very much because er it stands for justice, bravery and responsibility. Er in addition, it drives me to concentrate on the changeable world [Ml] and the future [W1u-e] issues. That's all. Thank you. </sp2>
<sp3> My name is ***. And I'm now a junior working towards the bachelor degree of English. Er dancing, movie and traveling are my favorite. And I really want to ??? this opportunity to be friends with you and I hope we can keep on touch with each other later on. That's all. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now that we have known each other, we can do some group work. First of all, I'd like to ask each of you a question. And Miss ***. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mn. </sp1> 
<interlocutor> Do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yes, I think it's very important. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Because [Wau-au] er, just as our country ??? for example. Our our popu... our population, our people in our country, er, their ... their er levels [W1l-n] of their their levels [W1l-n] of education are so low that I think it's do harm to their development of country. Er also I think if a country er ??? if a country want to be developed, I think, er talented people is is wanted. And I er, meanwhile I think the ??? is a good example on the country, because they have so many talented people, talented, talented people from other countries or in their own countries. Their countries become so strong that we er we are a little er a little appreciate them. That's all. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Mn. Ok. Miss ***, and is it reasonable for college students to pay for their tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Er, I think so. Er er because er because er in our because nowadays our our life condition in China is not [Wo-a] very good, and er the our China is not [Wo-a] not [Wo-a] strong as we had as we had expected. Er so I think er paying for tuition can decrease the burden of the country. Er and er if we hand in the payment, er the university or the schools can provide us so many materials er and other ins... instruments. Er in addition, I think paying paying paying tuition... er... is a is a paying pa... paying tuition stands for er the the the stands for er the stands for the honor [W1o-o:] of the teachers because they works very hard and we should reward them and I think paying tuition is a better way. That's all. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Miss ***. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Do you think night schools are good for more higher education? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Night [Mt] schools? </sp3>
<interlocutor> Mn. </interlocutor>
<sp3> I think so, because you know there are many disadvantage of our entrance examination to college. And some people they are very [Py-d] capable, but they can't pass the examinations with high scores so they can't enter the university and they lose the opportunity. If they can aware the opportunity of night [Mt] school, they can er impr... they can take the college courses. Meanwhile improve improve their er ability to to adapt to their improving [Pg-d] society. So I think this opportunity is very er valuable for them. That's all. Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Mn. Ok. Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your chart. You'll have about one minu one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now here are your cards. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now, Miss ***, would you please ??? and you two please put your cards aside and listen to what she has to say. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok. </sp3>
<sp1> From this picture, we can see that the number of students applying for graduated graduates studies is increasing since nineteen eighties [W2i-i:] [P2i-n] to two thousand. And I think I think they may be from reasons. Firstly, I think er nowadays er more and more people pay more attention to their to their study education. So I think if one wants to get good job, I think it's very necessary and very important to go further studies. And we also as we all know that the requirements of people such such as applying people, appli... applicants is much higher than the er than few years ago. So I think it's also the requirements of the society that er that er we all have to er to pay more attention to er apply for graduates studies. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. Miss ***, it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Mn from the chart, we can see er the percentage of applicants with two year or more working experience is increasing. Er in 1980, there is er 35 percent, and in the two thousand years, there is 53 percent. I think there is some reasons. Er firstly, er the er firstly, I think the life level of our country is increasing. Er our people our people nowadays can make a good can earn a good living. Er secondly, I think er the society is society has changed greatly. It er drives the young people to go to higher sch to go to higher school, that's to say, to go to the university or college. Er... the thir... thirdly, er I think the society provides the graduate students much more much more opportunities than before. Er that's all. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Miss ***, ***, it's your turn </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok. Here is an a graph of increase in the percentage of female graduate students. Well, er if we mainly discuss with the female graduate students, I think that's firstly we should think of the women rights in er in yes er the women rights is very important as we all realize gradually. So er many when women fight for their rights. Meanwhile I think it also and illustration of the de... of the development of our country economy, because er there is a saying that every thing are attributed to economy. So I think education shows it too, because er see, in 1980, there was only 10 percent of female graduate students, but now in two thousand [Wou-a] there are fifty [My] one percent over half of the one hundred [M2d]. So we can see that er people are reali... realize that education is very important, and so do womens. So they take it. And er I think another reason is that er knowledge is the power and women have to struggle in the modern society. They so they have to gain some power er through gra... through education and other activities. Er I think, economy as factor and ideology factor er influence that increase in this show in this paragraph. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Fine. Now we all have some idea of an enrollment of graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. During this discussion, you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You will have about four and half a minute for discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember, during this discussion, you should try to come to an agreement on wh... whether gradua... graduate education is essential for a successful career. </interlocutor>
<spall> Ok. </spall>
<interlocutor> Please begin. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Mm, what's your opinion? I think er it's very important but it's not the essential factor because we can see from the vary er from the example that we can get from the society is that many successors in the in their career, they are not graduates. </sp3>
<sp2> Mn. </sp2>
<sp3> That's a fact. </sp3>
<sp2> Yeah. I think I agree with er Miss Miss, Miss ***. For example, er as we know, Bill [Wi-ir] Gates [Wa-ae]. She he enter into university but he dropped during his first year. He er at first he er create a a very small firm, er creating computer. Er and now she is he is become the billionaire or or much more than a billionaire. Er he is very famous famous person around the world [Ml]. Er so I absolutely agree with Miss ***. </sp2>
<sp1> I agree with you too, because [Wau-au] we can see that er some millionaire around us are also not [Wo-au] also not [Wo-au] graduate graduate from colleges. And some of them are even junior even have junior education or er primary education. So I think I absolutely agree with you. </sp1>
<sp3> Thank you. Thanks for your support. And I think there is another factor is that er it doesn't education is sure important but education does not always take one form, that's from the school, right? We can't er rather there are various kinds of education. We can learn from our er trained field. I mean when we are doing some business, taking some part [Pt-en] job, meanwhile this kind is also a kind of education. So I think owing the diploma [Mp] does not say anything. Not does not say anything, does not say everything. </sp3>
<sp2> Yeah. I think so. Er I remembered er many years ago, we called the university as the ivory [Wi-e] tower, but now we didn't regard it as as it. That's to say, er as a young man, we have a lot of things to read, and to learn and to be educated. Mm... we can we can learn something from our parents, from our friends and from the society, and also can from the university. So I think er universities are all all that to say, education is er very important and not [Wo-a] e... essential. Yeah. </sp2>
<sp1> Also I like to say that there are also some graduates from the colleges. Some are masters, even doctors. They have very high levels. Their diplomacy is very high so. But er their ability their ability to deal with things, I think, er many of them is even lower [Wl-n] than that lower [Wl-n] than those [Wth-n] people who didn't enter the university. </sp1>
<sp3> Yes, but there is another fac... another thing that I'm worrying about that's everything is changing, er even though our our idea as done this topic and I'm afraid after I after I leave this room, I would think [Mk] that it's very essential because I suddenly realize that everybody especially the seniors when they are hunting for job, they they always tell me that Kate, my name is Kate in English, Kate, you you'd bettered take the er postgraduate [Wo-o] examination. A... at least you should have a try because this is the main tendency of the society. So I'm afraid in the future er to attend the postgraduates [Wo-o] er just like us now attending the college. So I'm not sure whether whether er it's essential or not in the future, but now I should say er it's it's important but not so essential. </sp3>
<sp2> Mn. Er but we must know this a a fact. So many careers need the professional er persons. Er for example, the doctors [W1o-a], the teachers, and and so on. Er if... we </sp2>
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<interlocutor>Time is over for our discussion. And now, I'd like to ask you just one last question on the topic of the enrollment of graduate students. Miss ***, have you ever thought of studying for a Ph [Wh-ehch] PhD [Wh-ehch] in the future? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> PhD [Wh-ehch] ? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yeah. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mn. yes. I think er I think of this idea. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Er because [Wau-au] the tendency of the society is that if you have some er higher higher degree of education and you can have a more better you can have you can have better jobs. Also our parents also encourage me to step further [Wur-e] because [Wau-au] er they also er think er think from this aspect. And I also think that er if we can if I can have the chance opportunity opportunity to er take further [Wur-e] education, I think we can learn [Wear-e] more. And er perhaps the ability of my ability er doing are deal with things could be much better and my experience will be more er And I think er this is very essential. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Mn. All right. Miss ***, some people leave a well-paid job to get a graduate education. Do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Er to some extent I think it's worthwhile, er because they they study [Mdy] very hard in school like a horse. They they they keep the nose to the green stone to er to earn the high score. Er that that is they can get a high score or they can get very higher position in the in the school in the university. Er when the person er enter enters into the enters into the society, he may become a professional a professional person. He may become very, er how to say, became a expert. And I think the society needs this kind of person. Er but er to some degree er is not [Wo-a] worthwhile. Er because in China we know er there is er some students [We-e] have full of cap... capability [W1i-i:] [Wl-s], but they are not [Wo-a] good at study. Maybe they they do not well in the university, but they can adapt adapt quickly to the society. That's all. Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Miss ***, Would you change your major if you were to study for a master's degree? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Er probably not. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Why not? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Because now I'm a junior. And before I have consider er changing er my major when I take the master degree. Now I think that er that's a ??? really that's a ???. Er my major is English and many people in China they know English and they also can speak English, but I don't think everybody can can use very well English, er so I think if I just want to compete with them, er when I change the major, I think that's not so that's not so favorable for me. And I want to be competent [W1e-e] [P1e-ti] [S2] as my English major. </sp3>
<interlocutor> All right. That's the end of the test. Thank you, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. Thanks. </spall>
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