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<speaker sp1=male sp2=female sp3= male> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Good afternoon. </spall>
<interlocutor> Could you tell me your name and the number of your admission ticket? Your name, please. And your number. </interlocutor>
<sp1> My name is ***. Mm my number is 1658. </sp1>
<interlocutor> And Your name and your number. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My Chinese name is ***. And my west name is Jessica. My number is 3571. </sp2>
<sp3> Ok. My Chinese name is *** and my name is Derick. My number is 3753. </sp3>
<interloctutor> Thank you. </interloctutor>
<sp3> Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now, would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
<spall> Ok.</spall>
<sp1> I'm I major in civil engineering. And I'm like sports such as basketballs and footballs. Uh I'm also like drawing pictures. Uh mm and that's all. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well nice to meet you all here. I think I am a very active girl. I like to do all the things I want. And I like to draw pictures. And in my spare time I like listening to English music. </sp2>
<sp3> I major in mechanical engineering and very glad to meet you. In my spare time I like listening to music and watch movies. And I like travel very much. Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now that we have known each other we can do some group work. First of all I'd like to ask each of you a question. So Mr ***, do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yes, I think so. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp1>Mm. because when ??? opportunity it is necessary to our to our students to get a high degree. Er the maybe in the future the com compe competition is most seriously so we must prepare for our future and get ourselves self-educated. Mm. that's </sp1>
<interlocutor> So That's all? Ok. So Miss ***. </interlocutor>
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<sp2> Yes. </sp2.>
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<interlocutor> Is it reasonable for college students to pay for their tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Yes, I think it's reasonable. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Because it depends on the country. You know in many foreign countries the tuition fee is free, but our country is different. We are a developing country. And if your If our country want to develop more we need money. And I think many students parents have the ability to pay our ability. If for the those lower cost students they can ask for the tuition fee from the bank. We also have the challenge to take some part time jobs. If you cost yourself you can get your scholarship. Yes. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. So Mr ***, your question is have you ever thought of continuing your education after you graduate? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Uh, I think uh it is very important for me to continue my further study because I think as our society is develop so fast we must learn more knowledge to catch with the out world so that we can found job or to make better future in our daily life in our future. Uh I was planning to go abroad to develop my ability and to keep my further study. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now, let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your chart. You'll have one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now here are your cards. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Please don't murmur out. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Now Mr. ***, would you please begin? And *** and ***, just put your charts aside and listen to what he has to say. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm ok. We can see from the teachers that the enrollment of graduate students is increased. I think the reasons is that the population [W1o-er] is our country is very large uh the youngs need to educated mm mm so mm if mm I think that er the mm the our country needs a lot students students of experts of all kinds of experts so mm all mm our students uh must learn more skills and they need to apply it for critical studies and mm and job is limited so mm mm the they educated themselves for good places in the society. Mm mm the so the more they teach the more they get the skilled they would find the issue [Pe-er] to find a good job and situations mm. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. *** it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. We can see the picture the percentage of applicants [Wan-ei] with two or one year experience are increasing year by year. And I think there are several reasons for this increasing [Ws-z] increasing. First you know knowledge is always the most important thing for people. If people want to have further education they'd better mm get the graduate degree. So that's why more and more people when they finish after they finish their education they get some work experience they want to go back to get further education. I think the second point is that er people find that what they work is not what they really want after they got work. And If they went back to have graduate course they would change they could change their major, right? The third point I think uh only after they have some working experience they could know what they want what they need to learn in their further education. So that's the three points I think why there are more and more people want to go back to have graduate course after they are working. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, *** it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Well as we can see from the chart [War-er] that during twenty years there are forty more than forty percent of the graduate students are female students. In 1980 there were only ten percent of the female students are enrolled. But in 2000 there are 51% female students. I think uh this phenomena is due to the education system. Because uh in the past people used to think that women's women's duty is just to get married, raise children and do some household and family. But in nowadays women are go out to do the to do the same job as men did [Wi-e]. And I think the women's the women's the women are receive the equal opportunity to receive education and to do the they have show that the they have the same ability to achieve success and make contribution to the society. So I think from this chart we can see that women are played a more and more important role in society. That's all, thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Right. Now we all have some ideas of the enrollment of graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You'll have about four and half minutes uh for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember during the discussion you should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok, let's discuss</sp2>
<sp3> Ok, Lady first. </sp3>
<sp2> Lady first? Uh how could I say... I think enrollment of graduate course is not that essential. </sp2>
<sp3> Not essential? </sp3>
<sp2> No, not. I know it's essential but not essential to every individual [Wdu-ju]. Because you can also discover that there are so many people with who haven't finished the graduate course also have very very talented. </sp2>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<sp2> Like Michael Jordan, Madonna, they also have their career you can't say they they are very famous they make a lot of money. And other people ad admire them. Right? </sp2>
<sp3> Yes, maybe part of you is right. But I think it's very essential to have the graduate for the for the career because I think as our society develop and develop the the the high technology are very developing very fast. If you don't have a knowledge of your owns you you it is very hard for you to uh develop your potential in your further career. </sp3>
<sp2> Right. </sp2>
<sp3> Mm. </sp3>
<sp2> What about yours? </sp2>
<sp1> I think that is very essential [Wt-s] for successful careers to take graduate studies. Mm I think the society is changing so quickly that we must keep up with the care of times. So we must mm learnt more more about the the technology of the times You just say Michael Jordan and other famous persons. They are they just have their talent [Wa-ei] they er. </sp1>
<sp2> Pay attention I never say it's it's not essential to or it's not essential to but it all depends on you. What kind of person you want to what goals you want to achieve finally. If you tell yourself yes I want to get further education I want to have a career to do some uh research or to get a company to do very high tech things. Then you'd better got a graduate course. </sp2>
<sp3> Well I think in the heat competition nowadays uh besides the uh specific technology you learn in colleges or universities you still have to uh gain the ability to solve the complicated problems to have the practical ability to solve all kinds of difficulties and problems. So you can achieve the success of your career. </sp3>
<sp2> Yes. A person if he success there are many things which he needed right? </sp2>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<sp2> And but those those knowledge you are not learn only from the course. </sp2>
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<sp3> Yea, from the school. </sp3>
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<sp2> Not from the school you can learn many things from the people around you and on the society. So what's so what's our finally conclusion? </sp2>
<sp3> I think uh you can I think it's the problem of education system not offer us only the specific technology but also to give us uh to cultivate and raise our ability to solve all kinds of problems to raise our </sp3>
<interlocutor> I'm sorry to interrupt you here. Let's listen to what you have to say. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm, yes. I think that [Pt-er] what [Pt-er] we learn in school usually are usually is the basic skills and and we we can't build the future and what the future will lead us to know. So we must uh go to the society and learn what we should we must know and we must train ourselves the ability to solve the special problems uh uh I just hear that the uh somebody has some talents but they uh uh they also work hard in their in their area. But there is another graduate study but they work up for their successful I am not Michael Jordan is a very hard-working talor. </sp1>
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<sp2> And also be a guides. </sp2>
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<sp1> Yes. yes. </sp1>
<sp2>He drop his education. </sp2>
<sp2> Well my conclusion is still that it depends. It depends on people. What goal you want to achieve but finally the society if they want more people to have further education so they choose graduate course that's good. And more chance is better is better for a people. </sp2>
<sp3> Well, I think my ground my conclusion is mm it's very important for us to uh to have a good command for our own majors. But you still have other abilities to achieve your success and your career such like you must have a strong psychology to meet all kinds of difficulties. And you must have creativity and </sp3>
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<sp2> Management skills. </sp2>
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<sp3> Yes. And you must have the uh quality to cooperate with. </sp3>
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<sp2> Cooperate to do Team work. </sp2>
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<sp3> To do team work. Very important. So I think with the quality above can a student achieve success in his career in his future life. </sp3>
<sp2>The graduate course is a way only a way to help us to build that character. </sp2>
<sp3> We still have other ways. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Alright. That's the end of the discussion. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Thank you very much. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now I'd like to ask you one last question on the topic of the enrollment of graduate students. So Mr ***, have you ever thought of studying a PhD in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp1> PhD? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yes. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Doctor. </sp3>
<sp2> Doctor's degree. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Doctor degree. To pursue doctor degree. </interlocutor>
<sp2> To further education. </sp2>
<sp1> I don't hear clearly. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Have you ever thought of studying for a PhD in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Oh. I am uh only want to be a post graduate uh because I </sp1>
<interlocutor> Why not? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Because I thought the doctor is really hard to hard to get and uh uh I am not . we should learn from the society not only from the school. Uh so uh the school. If we uh work in the society we learn not [Pt-er] what we need to learn and uh we know clearly what we that we issue for our to study to get to get uh to get advance. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. ***. Some People leave a well paid job to get a graduate education do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Yes. I think it's worthwhile. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp2> To tell you the truth, myself uh I'm I'm going to have a further education such as graduate course but not in our country I want to have a further education in Germany. And I think mm it's clear that if you have a further education your pay will be better you have a higher salary uh but I don't think salary is the most important thing I want to have high salary and at the same [Wa-ae] at the same time the job I really interested in. I don't think these two things are contradict. And I I I believe I have the confidence to have them both. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> ***, your question is Bill Gates didn't even finish university, do you think it's necessary to get a university degree? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Well I think it is. Yes, I think it's necessary to get a university degree because I think such examples like Bill Gates are very scare. For the normal people I think to finish university degree can complete our knowledge of our majors so that we can uh to further my. to I think you can further your study or to to achieve success in your careers. And I think it's very important to to live in the campus to not only to learn the knowledge but also to uh to cultivate your ability to cooperate and such things I have I have described so that to you can be a complete man to meet all kinds of difficulties in your future. That's all thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. That's the end of the test. Thank you everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spall>
<interlocutor> So before you leave the classroom would please submit your admission tickets and the cards. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Submit. </sp3>
<interlocutor>Hand in. Thank you.</interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </interlocutor>
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