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<participant interlocutor=1 speak=3> </participant>
<speaker sp1=female  sp2=male  sp3=female> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=male> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor>  And the number of your admission ticket. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok, my name is ***. My ticket number is one six o [Wou-o] eight. </sp1>
<sp2> Ok, my name is *** and er my ticket number [Pr-er] is, sorry, I forgot it, 1781. </sp2> 
<sp3> Mm, mm, my name is ***. My number is 1816. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now, would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Remember, you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. </sp2>
<sp1> Ok. </sp1>
<sp3> Ok. </sp3>
<sp1> En, mm, mm, I en, very glad to see you here. And I'm an IT major. I'd love to mention two things about myself. The first is my optimistic personality. I think with it, I can touch with others [Wth-z] very freely and didn't have the difficulty [Pc-ru] to touch with them. And the second is my hometown [Wow-ou] Wenzhou. It is a very [Wv-w] [Wr-?] young and beautiful costal city. So I'd like it very much. That's [Wth-z] all. </sp1>
<sp2> Ok, it's my turn, right? Ok, I'm a math major, and my favorite pass-times are reading, writing. And for some students, mathematics is extremely difficult. But for me, I don't think so, you know. Every person has his own style, his own choice to choose his major. Maybe mathematics is my favorite, and IT is your most favorite. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<sp2> So every person is different. En, and for me, mm, mm, er another thing I want to make friends with you, really. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<sp2> Especially [M2l] after this test, we get a chance to get together here and still we can make friends after this test. Ok? </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<sp2> Ok, that's all, thank you. </sp2>
<sp3> Ok, mm, my major is Industrial Design, such as in design products. Mm, I'm a gra graduate one. After graduate, I think I will [Wl-?] be in er be in a company such as Kelon, mm, TCL, en, such companies. I think [Pk-er] I will I will do well in the future. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Good, Ok, now that we know each other, we can do some group work. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. </sp2>
<interlocutor> First of all, I'd like to ask each of you a question. And, from er Miss ***. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Er, do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Oh, That's  ??? and that's why you can see now more and more people have go to college [W1e-i:]. En, I think with the development [Wv-w] of science and technology [W2o-o], er it is unbelievable that we didn't be er civilized. So we should make our best to come to the this er come to the high schools. Er, I think during my two-year college life, I learned a lot. That [Wth-z] will do [Wd-?] very well, that will do a lot good things for my future career [Wa-o]. I think em everyone should try his best [Wb-p] the chance to go to the college, and to to ex experience [Mr] the feeling or the  ???. That's all. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, Mr. ***, do you think it's possible for every middle school graduate to have a college education. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Sorry, actually it is very interesting. Especially in China, the situation is very terrible. You know, perhaps, er only I don't have very exact statistics. I just er know about half percent of the er middle school graduates have the chance to enter university. And as now we are sitting here and we successfully participate in the college entrance examination and er we still got a chance to receive college education. We should cherish it, right? Er, so I think for some other students who can't get a chance to enter the university and got a college education, they can still do something else in some special careers. That doesn't matter. You know, just as, er just as I have said, er everyone has his own style, just show the best of you to the to the rest of the world. That's the most important. Thank you very much. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, Miss ***, is it reasonable for college students to pay for their higher education? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Mm, this is a common [Wmm-n] situation that many people many students in all kinds of universities [Wv-w] must pay much to go into the [Wth-z] college. Er, as for me, I paid 3000 yuan to er every every term in my university. Em, for for a family that that er for a family whose parent er parents er parents er pese whose paren presents er whose parents are peasants, that's difficult for them to er to take so much money to go into the university. En, yet I think it's very important, er for, it's very important to students to go in to college. Mm that will do good to the student himself. Er, that's all. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, let's to, let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your chart. You'll have one minute to prepare. And each of you will have one and half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now here are your cards. Now, Mr. ***, would you please begin? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok, no problem. Actually you know, I think an increase in the percentage of applicants with two years or more working experience just tell us one thing. That's the working experience plays a more important role, especially for our college students. We can see from this chart, er, at the year two thousand, 53% of the applicants has two year or more working experience. There are several reasons for this. I'd like to present it as follows. Er, first, you know, what we learned in the university might be not so useful especially when you step into the society. You know, what we learn in the university might be something too scientific or too technological. And if you want to er put them to your work, you have to mm adjust to them and to have a long process. Er, that's the first important thing. And the second, what we learned in the university is gradually becoming more associated with with what we might do in the society. And you can see, er in in the universities, many students are beginning to mm get a part-time jobs or working as a babysitter, or doing something else to increase their working experience. Be that's because many enterprises and companies want some students who can do things better. They don't have to er employ er some students with no experience, no working experience, because it's better when they begin their work, they may at a fuse, at a confusion. They don't know what to do. So I think that's the second important thing to do. And the third, mm, you know </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, ok, Miss ***. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah. Er, In my paper, it tells about the [Wth-z] number [Wm-n] of students enrolled [Wr-l] enrolled and the numbers of people, and the number of appli appli applicant. Yes, like it said, in 1980s, and the [Wth-z] number of applicant is just er 900. And the numbers of the students, the number of students enrolled [Wr-l] is 900. Sorry, I made a wrong [Wo-o]. And as years goes by, the numbers of the students enrolled [Wr-l] is not increase very fa is not increase faster than the [Wth-z] number of the applican applicants. Er we can see that, with, with more technology, people want to be in be with high educated. Then they can catch up with the [Wth-z] world. So they must have [Wv-f] the chance go to the [Wth-z] college. That's why the numbers of applicants is increase sharply in the years goes [Wes-s] by. And as the numbers of the students enrolled [Wr-l], er it also increased, but at lower mm speed. Er mm, I think the government have rea-realized the importance of education, especially the higher education. So  </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Ok, Miss ***, it's your turn to  </interlocutor>
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<sp3> Ok, to begin with, I want to tell tell all of you a example. There are four students er in my in my major that can be a postgraduate without examination, but three [Wth-z] of them are girls [Ml]. This exa mm so we can see that the female students in college er have improved quickly. From this chart, we can see that er in 1980, the [Wth-z] only only ten percent female students mm female students in in college. But in twenty two thousand, en they are there have there have mm fifty [Wy-in] one percent. Mm, as we we all of us can see female students in college mm work hard, and they got good marks. But er er in the outside, most company most company some company some company do not want want female female students but male students. Mm I think it's unfair [Wai-ai]. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Right. Now we all have some idea of the enrollment of the graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate students graduate education is er essential for a successful career. During the discussion, you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify your point. You will have about four and half minutes for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according your contribution to the discussion. Remember, during the discussion, you should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok, can we begin? </sp2>
<interlocutor> Yeah. </interlocutor>
<sp2> I know you've got a chance to er be qualified to become a graduate students. And first I I want to er learn something from you. You know, you know you are the fourth-year student. And you must be a top student, I'm thinking, in your major. Right? </sp2>
<sp3> Yes. But I think I have a lot things to to learn [Wear-er]. Mm three years, four years four years' studying mm to me is too limited. </sp3>
<sp2> Is too limited? </sp2>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<sp2> So do you want to say something? </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. I think er nowadays more and more people want to find the the jobs which is that is with high salaries. And, so the pressure to get a job is is very [Wr-?] hard for many students. And they should mm work hard in their school to got a higher mark to en qualify in their mm degree. Then they will get a lot chance a lot of chance [Pn-an] to get a perfect [S2] job. So I think er we should mm learn more and more. </sp1>
<sp2> Mm, yeah, yeah. </sp2> 
<sp1> If we have the chance. </sp1>
<sp2> Yeah. You know in her opinion, postgraduate education is very essential to a successful career. But er you know er you are becoming a postgraduate and I want to learn from your own experience. Do you think postgraduate education is very essential to er for you to become a very successful woman? </sp2>
<sp3> Mm I think er you should str-strike a balance between the [Wth-z] ability and the [Wth-z] </sp3>
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<sp2> Knowledge, right? </sp2>
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<sp3> Er, yes. </sp3>
<sp2> En I think so. </sp2>
<sp3> If you if you are a college one, you can you can find a good job. You needn't er to be a postgraduate. You must trust yourself. You must have confidence. </sp3>
<sp2> I agree. </sp2>
<sp3> In my opinion  </sp3>
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<sp1> But I think mm some peoples will judge you by the credit you have. </sp1>
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<sp2> You know, I don't think so. You know, I can raise [Wse-s] an example. You know Bill Gates? </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
</sp2> Yeah, he just I I I know he just learned two years in Harvard University then. He just er stepped into the society and start up Microsoft company. Yeah. </sp2>
<sp1> I also know it. But I think sometimes we have no choice. </sp1>
<sp2> You have no choice? </sp2>
<sp1> The society has force you to get a higher education. </sp1>
<sp2> Yes. I think so. </sp2>
<sp3> Yeah, there are little people like Bill Gates. And they are so few. </sp3>
<sp2> But there are more chances for us to get a qualification. You know there are so many certificates. You know MCSE, or just like us, Band 6, Band 4 GRE, TOEFL. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1> 
<sp2> Yeah. You don't er especially for some English majors, you don't have to get a qualification to become a postgraduate if you can speak good English. That's enough. Right? </sp2>
<sp3> Yes, you can do it. </sp3>
<interlocutor> All right, that's the end of the discussion. Now I'd like to ask you just one last question on the topic of enrollment of graduate students. En er Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes? </sp3>
<interlocutor> Have you ever thought of studying for a doctor's degree in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Doctor's degree  no, I don't think so. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp3> I think it's too long a time [Wt-d]. If I have finished my er my er </sp3>
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<sp2> Master's degree. </sp2> 
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<sp3> Er if I have finished the er last three years of graduate gradu er postgraduate education. Mm I will [Ml] go out to find a job. I think it's to my major, Industrial Design is important very important to go out to find a job to find a job mm to mm to be mm to raise my ability. Maybe it's no use to go on study for another de a years. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, er, Mr. ***. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Some people have er leave a well-paid job to get a graduate education. Do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Er, that depends. You know, mm as as has been said above, some English majors, I think if you can do a good job in your career, you don't have to er just leave aside your job and then to go to university to learn something more. But as for me, I have said I'm a maths major. You know, maths is very difficult. So you have to devote all your time studying maths. So perhaps after my graduation, I will mm just try to er get a chance to study my master's degree or a doctor's degree. The more I learn, the better I will become. You know I think so. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, er Miss ***. Bill Gates didn't even finish university. Do you think it's necessary to get a university degree? </interlocutor>
<sp1> I think [Wth-s] I think it depends, depends on [Wo-ou] the societies, depend on the surroundings [Wrr-l]. And nowadays I also want to, I think the college life is so ton so long for me. But I think if we we I didn't pass it, how can I got a chance in the [Wth-z] in the competitive society? So maybe in nowadays in China, er the the situation is different from that [Wth-z] abroad [Wr-l]. Mm, Bill Gates, every every person want to be like him, be like him with a lot of [Wf-v] a lot wealth and can mm can be so successful. But I think, but for the most people, it will not be right [Wr-l] or be true, I think [Wth-s]. It just depends. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, that's the end of it, everybody. </interlocutor>
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