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<speaker sp1=female sp2=male sp3=male> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> I'm *** and the examiner this afternoon. This is my partner Miss ***. Sure I'll not ask you any questions during your discussion so long in the test. So don't be nervous. Well please tell me your name and number of your admission tickets? Yes, from you please. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. Mm my name is *** and my number is 1183. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. You please. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***. My English name is Fred [Pd-er]. My number is 2191. <sp2>
<sp3> My name is ***. My number is 1268. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now would you please briefly introduce yourself to each other? And remember don't mention the name of your university. Ok? </interlocutor>
<spall> OK </spall>
<interlocutor> Would you please? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm I'm glad that I can introduce myself to you. And I think I'm a  I  I'm a junior student and my major field is marketing. And I'm I think mm I'm a cheerful girl. So in my in my spare my spare time I have many hobbies just as mm listen to the music and watch movie and sports. An  and I think mm I cherish this opportunities [M1o] mm to communicate with this these friends. And so mm I think it's that all because mm it's a important test that I can know many mm friends. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, you please. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. Good afternoon ladies and gentlemen. My name is ***. You can call me Fred [Pd-er]. I'm from Beijing Arts and Science University. And I'm a sophomore major in computer science and technology. My interest is international finance and  mm I'm the director of students' union of our university. So I can have a lot of friends on campus and have a lot of tasks to tackle. And I become a part-time teacher of a Cambridge youngling [Png-g] university. So I have some teaching experience now. And I believe in two of sayings. The first one is teaching is one percent of aspiration and ninety-nine percent of perspiration. And second one is people can I can people can't I also can. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok! </interlocutor>
<sp2> And my purpose of come here to today. There are two purposes of come here ??. The first one mm is to make difference and second one is to make friends. Thank you. </sp2>
<sp3> Hello, I'm  my name is ***. I'm too joy here. My major is clinical. I'm a senior. Let's call it ? right. I I might group face them later. So I'm glad to meet you two here. That's all. </sp2> 
<interlocutor> Ok! Now as we know each other, so let's move on to mm move on to group work. First of all I'd like to ask each of you one question. Let's start from Mr ***. </interlocutor>
<spall> Ok. </spall>
<interlocutor> Now do you think mm night school mm night schools are good form of higher education? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Mm, it is an unexpected question to finish. Yet I have to start with. And I did mm two aspects service. First of all too too some people who are who are already on career. It is a useful plan because they can know some modern knowledge and modern techono technology and modern information of career field and prefer mm technology and mm prefer skills. But mm on the other hands it is not your beautiful restrains. Are are are diculous students if beyond campus is concentrate on on study. Do not you know many other too do not to many other tasks and if they mm if they always concentrate on if they always concentrate on other tasks and do not concentrate on studying tens of knowledge par knowledge parts, it will not be beneficial for their future. So I did two aspects. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok! Mm yes mm. You know mm. Do you think it's important [Wor-a] it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm my answer is of course. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yes. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm because I think you know it is a modern society and I think the  I think many mm if you have the college mm college education mm that means that you have a mm higher mm mm technology and much mm much deeper mm knowledge of your major. And I think you'll do better things mm in our in the society and you can get [Pt-er] better career I think. Maybe although the salary </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, good! And Mr ***, mm is it is it reasonable for college students to pay for the tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Mm tui ? </sp3>
<interlocutor> To keep the money in many school. Yes. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Of course I think so. Mm because now they could call me the ???ter. And absen ? is money [Wn-m]. This is a this is true in the ninety. I think mm because everyone must pay for mm must pay for their their labor. So I think this is reasonable for for money [Wn-m] for your things. And and and fi and sometimes mm it is defend  defend to be the the the tech tech the labor you have to give mm give all. If you do more mm more labor mm mm the money you want may must mm give give more. So I think it is necessary [Wc-sh] for us. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Mm, ok. Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I would like you to talk about the information in in your chart. You may have one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. And please read your chart careful. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> To. To. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now let's start from Mr ***. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Yes. And you two please put it down till I ask you. OK? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. </sp1>
<sp2> Ok. And there is a special concern increase in the percentage of publicans with the two year on the working experience. And now I access to some recent parts. And from from 1980 to 2000 there is a increase of more than 13 perc percent [Mp] of increase. So on ? and while it exceeding. People in in the career found that they are now eligible for the work, the latter's with more knowledge, the latter's with more information. So that are still ? So if they wanted, they promotits ??? It they want to get higher education in the international job center companies or some institution ? like our university, mm they have to get further education, especially they get bachelors. After they get get the bachelor degree, have to get the doctor degree or the master degree. So here is the significant in case of this. And something more mm we have to have very electuation in the society. You know modern society we just mm ? scholars every month. So we have to get more right, to be very elegant, to get ?? education angle. If you want to educate our children ?? have to do have before some again. So have to have more knowledge. We have to be more mm to be ?? sometimes and have to educate our children too and adults. So we have to get the postgraduate study. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now *** please. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm ok. In my chart I see  This chart show the difference in the numbers of student applying for graduate student mm study studies. So I can say mm from 1980 to mm to mm to two mm to two thousand, and mm and the the number mm increase very sharply. Mm we know maybe mm ten or ten or twenty or more times than 1980. Mm I think there are some reasons for this big increase. Mm the first is that mm mm you know in the sers because the requirement of the society and the society ask for all mm gradu graduate graduate students and they go mm deeper mm ma deeper to the knowledge of their field and they can do mm better job. So mm many companies and the government ask for the mm ask for the gradu mm students for the graduate studies. Mm so I think this mm this may be one reason. And I think the two reason is that the second reason is that many student mm in today are are think mm mm more for their their fu future. They'll think they'll be they are to they are to go aboard abr  go go aboard. And I think mm if they are graduaaa if they have the graduate studies they have mm good or better mm ii it'a it's the better better I think. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok. Now you please. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok. my chart is about the equality percentage female [Mm] about students. Mm by the feature saying the percentage of the wema female [Mm] about students mm in to mm from one ten percent in 1980 to mm fifty one percent in two thousand years. I think I'm mm I think the mm audiery in the society [Mso]. I think there are many factors about this mm mm these things. Mm I think mm first because now the right of now the right of the wo woman are brought up mm ninty in the society [Mso] and mm mm woman have play a mm important ta part in the society [Mso]. So I think the so society isn't isn't deserve to worse to do worse and they come to give their owner give their contribution to the to the whole whole country. So I think this is one reason. And second because because  now many there are many things that mm that that not only man can do but also their women can do. There are some some some times some works that man can't do, you know women can do also. So I think the two reason  I think mm maybe the more and more female [Mm] could be students to a studies the mm study the modern technology. Third  </sp3> 
<interlocutor> Ok, sorry to interrupt you. Ok mm now we own some ideas of the moment of practice se  graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify your point. And you'll have but four and a half minutes for your discussion. And your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. And remember during the discussion try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. Ok. Discuss. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Mm let me start first. </sp2>
<sp1> Yes, ok. </sp1>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<sp1> I did think graduate mm education is very essential for my successful career. Especially I found to set form mention. If I want to get a very good position in the international joint center I have to be mm get mm at least the master degree of a PhD. So I have to study hard to have a mm to have a post graduate's education. And if I ha have to if I want to get very high salary, have to do so. And second mm if I want to mm get very good applications in the society, I so have to face so challenge and study a lot. And third one is that mm some of my friends told me mm they are in the United States. They are they are con concerning their mastery and doctor degree. They told me that mm they are under grea they are under great pressure; mm both parent pressure, peer pressure, substitute pressure and sometimes financial pressure. And other these kinds of pressure you can view organized and sometimes you can also wander in your experience. After these these kinds of things you can mm be very both educated, knowledgeable and sometimes well-organized and easy-going. So we can enjoy a very successful life. That's my opinion. Thank you! </sp1>
<sp3> In my in my in in mm mm  </sp3>
<sp1> Ok. </sp1>
<sp3> Mm in my opinion [Mion] I agree with you most of all. But I think I mm some twenties in the center. Mm we have mentioned that we can't press our mm body study books to mm mm put it put it to put it into the practice because we are only mm no it's that now ma many many study the case modern field. And we can't mm retract in the society. So I think this is the main part we must pay attention to. </sp3>
<sp2> Yeah, we must pay such attention to this practice and we have to get a higher education. Mm </sp2>
<interlocutor> Here we turn to ***. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. </sp1>
<sp2> Sorry. </sp2>
<sp1> Yes, mm. I I must say mm maybe I agree with you partly  And I think mm just like me I think mm if you want to get succe successful career it mm whether you are gradu mm graduate student or not is not the most important thing is not the essential. I think mm you can say mm Bill Gates and other the successful mm people I think they didn't have the they didn't mm mm they are not the graduate student. But they also successful. And I think if you are mm if you are graduate students maybe maybe you can get successful career. That's mm that but that's mm but it's not the mm mm  </sp1>
<sp2> Essential. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. That's as mm I think mm I think if you mm  the most important is that if you have the ability, i it's not mm but but the diploma is not the most important. But I'd say mm Bill Gates is the</sp1>
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<interlocutor> Some people are discussing about university. Mm well mm I began to ask each of you one last question. Let's begin from ***. Just now you say diploma is not is not the most important step. Maybe it's not the most important step. Ok. So are there other ways of continuing one's education that is like going to break this rule? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Mm sorry. Pardon? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Are there other ways of. </interlocutor>
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<sp1> educa  </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Of continuing one's education </interlocutor>
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<sp1> I like </sp1>
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<interlocutor> That is like going to break this rule? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm ok. And I thinks I thinks the other way to mm mm mm to to education itself is that you go mm go you go into the society. And society is most is most mm is the is the best mm school and best way to education itself I think. Mm because I think mm what you what you study in the mm in the in the university I think, mm some someone told me that maybe ten percent is to be mm used in your future work. That's that's the best. But so I think most of mm most of much our study today is mm maybe is not  is not the most useful thing. Mm what what is more useful is what is you can study in the society and practice. This is most important. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Well, good. Mr ***. Mm you know some people leave a well-paid job to get a graduate education. Do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Yeah, it's worthwhile. We come to get some new theory found that we behind the new theory we can put it into practice. You know on instance of relative theory we can put put up put it into practice and we have the have something new in this theory created from Euro. And if we don't ? these behind people, we ignore their new discovery, we won't have this new information, we won't have people don't have the mm  invention. And society won't get into perfect. So I did they gets the high well-paid job. It's worthwhile. And if we don't cherish these people the society won't be perfect. You know the United States can become the world power mm in the recent fifty years that is because they cherish the scholars. And we cherish them cherish them without and briefly if we cherish the world power at least there is strong strong country in this in the world. We have to cherish scholars. You have to make them win their jobs. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Mm ***. Mm do you want to, you know, have any form topic mm study for a PhD in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Of course. Mm because I'm a senior [Wn-ng] mm a clinical students, and my task is to serve people and cure patients of all kinds of mm disease. So I think the more knowledge I master the more patients I can cure. So I think I'll try my best to deveri deveriment mm try my best to durify minority have bet have get?. I I I I don't think I'm bit a mm I will don't I I I still think I will have a job after my ? I think many things I must do mm because I think the knowledge [Mdge] is the most important for mm most important for all the things. That's all. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok! That's the end of our discussion for our test. Ok! </interlocutor>
<spall> Ok! Thank you! </spall>
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