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<speaker sp1=female sp2=male sp3=male> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> And the number [wu-e] of your admission tickets? </interlocutor>
<sp1> My num-en my name is ***, my number is 010239001197. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Your number, please? </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***. I'll take a look at the card. Ok, my card is 01023900-1213. </sp2>
<interlocutor> And your number? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yeah, my name is ***. My number is 010239001283, yeah. </sp3> 
<interlocutor> Thank you. Now would you please briefly [Wy-ai] introduce yourself to each other. Remember [W2e-ae], you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah, en you have known, my name is ***, and I'm junior [Pj-r] student, and my major [Pj-r] is finance. And in my spare time, I like reading books, especially foreign stories. I I en I love [Wv-w] en listen to pop music, such as songs of Liang Yongqi. I think [Pk-er] her songs are very simple but full of feelings. En besides, as most students nowadays [Ps-r], I often surf on net, because I think through internet we can not only en let ourselves making new friends, but also learn lots of knowledge [Pg-er], and gets a latest [Wa-e] information. En en  </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, ?, you, please. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok, my name is ***, and I'm I'm learning financial management [S2]. I'm like her, I'm a junior in college, so that means I'm still have two years to go. For my spare [Ware-ar] time, I would like ??? a sociable person in Afghan, so I will spend a lot of time with my friends. And I think it's a way to learn too. And also for my major, as I want to pursue a Master's degree in finance or managerial [S1] area. So I'm come to working towards that. That's what I want to say about myself. Thank you. </sp2>
<sp3> My name is ***. I'm a junior student, en my ma- my major is economics. I I come from Jiangcu Province, I have stu- I I have studied in Xi'an for two and a half years. I  my hobby is my hobby is en sports. I like [Pk-er] playing basketball en par- par- particular. En en  </sp3>
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<interlocutor> Ok, nice that we knew each other, we can do some group work. First of all I'd like to ask each of you a question. so the first question for ***. Do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> En I think it's necessary. En en  </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Firstly I think en eve- en firstly I think so everyone [Mry] in the in the college can learn much [Ph-er] more knowledge[Pg-er]. En some en in the college we can not only learn some academic knowledge, but also some some knowledge that can't can't learned en in the in the school. For example, en you can for example you can go out go out school en and do some job [Pj-r] in the society. So I think the college education is various [Pou-r] en to en to some extent. En en it's en it's more it it's it pay more attention to one's ability, not only to one's knowledge [Pg-er]. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, well the second question for ***. Why do you think universities and colleges are increasing their enrolment of students now? </interlocutor>
<sp2> For first there is a matter of need that we've got to consider, say, most people think the college education is necessary, so more graduates from high school, say, they wanna go to college and take further education. And on the other hand, they might increase the income and revenue of the universities which is a way that they can expand facilities and it's a good way to get more income. So according to these two elements I think the students who want to pay some money to go to take education. And school, they want to get students because first they get more people educated, and second they get more revenue. And for these two reasons, I think it's a phenomenon that China is actually expanding its colleges and universities. And I think it is a good phenomenon, too. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Well, the third question for ***, and is it reasonable for college students to pay for their education? </interlocutor>
<sp3> En I I think it is en necessary for students to pay [Way-e] pay [Way-e] pay [Way-e] en to to each. En first en en first en country ? country ? en ? the popu- en ???? for them to to get [Pt-a] education. They must they must pay them pay them costs. En and the and the the student, the studen the students paid on pay attrition they [Wey-e] they [Wey-e] will they will they will get some essen- ??? ??? to to study hard.</sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok, now, let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrolment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrolment of graduate students in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your charts. You will have one minutes to prepare, and each of you will have one and a half [Pl-r] minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now here is cards  Now, ***, would you please begin? *** and ***, please err put your card asides and let's listen to what *** has to say. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well, my chart is about the increasing percentage of applicants with two year or more working experience and say the enrolment of graduate students. These people are well like alpha figures. In 1980 it was about 35% of people with two or more years working experience want to apply to enter college en graduate school and in 1985 it was about 39%, and it was 41% in 1999, and boosted to 53% in 2000. Say, from 1980 to 1999 over like twenty years the percentage was only about 6% higher. However from 1999 to 2000 the number boosted the percentage boosted from 41% to 53%. That means in the last few years, the requirements for working has been boosted, too. Say the companies need more skilled people. That's what I'm thinking. Companies need more skilled people to be qualified to certain positions. And people feel it's not enough for just college degree or level coherent that and they rather want to take the chance to go back to school to take more education. And this is actually good phenomenon for China I think, that because knowledge becomes more important, and people realize that if they go for a education, they can be qualified more they can make more money in their position. So I think more people should be encouraged or more companies should encourage their employees to go back to college and to go back to graduate school to get higher education. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok.</interlocutor>
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<sp3> Thank you. </sp3>
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<interlocutor> Now, ***, it's your turn. </interlocutor>
<sp1> En this this chart we can en from this card we can see [Wee-ei] the number of students enrolled[pl-r] increased. At the at the same time, the number of appli- applicants [S2] en increased too. Err I think [Pk-er] I think this en phenomenon can explain in two aspect [S2]. Firstly en maybe en en the students realized the en the students realized the importance of studying [Pt-r]. En en studying [Pu-r] in the in the college they en they find that they find that they can't they can't learn they can't learn enough knowledge [Pdg-er] for their future [Pt-r], because as en as China join the WTO, en the WTO, the the the requirements to the students en are very high. En so the students mu-must learn more learn more knowledge [Pdg-r] to to adopt the society. The other hand, from the nation from the national need. As as the national economy en expend en more and more and more higher higher managements en en. </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Ok. ***, now it's your turn. </interlolvutor>
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<sp3> My subject is increase in the percentage of female graduate students. From the card we can see [Wee-ei] we can see in in 1980 the percentage of [Wo-ou] female graduate students is 10% and in 1985 the percentage is a quarter. And in 1999 [Wn-l] the percentage is twen- and 41% and in the year in the 2000 year the percentage is 53%. I I think there is there are at least two reasons for its increase. First en first the reason is the please pleased both pleasing. We can imagine we can imagine in the past, many families many families have have many parents have have two or three two or three en two or three children [Wd-dg]. The the the common situation is that the the male the male the male child get can get [Pt-er] can get education, and the female child lose the oppo-opportunity to get education. This en this is due this situation is due to their en their their their parents' short [Pt-er] short [Pt-er] per- persen- perceptive and sometimes it is due to the economic [Me] [Wn-l] reason. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Right. Now we all have some idea [Pa-r] of the enrolment of the graduate students. I' d like you to discuss [Pu-r] the topic further and see if you can agree on the other graduate education is essential to a successful career. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify your points. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. You will have about four and a half minute for the discussion. Remember [W2e-ae], during the discussion you should try to come to an agreement [Pt-s]. Err, whether [Wwh-v] graduate education is essential for a successful career, please. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ok, we'll ?? start with it. En personally I want to get this topic more personal because [Wau-ei] when I was working in the classroom I was saying that I want to go for a graduate Master's degree because [Wau-ei] these days I have my thinking about this, which is I think it's essential for me at least. For me I'm learning financial management and I feel for undergraduate, there is something that I am learning more broadly rather than being into a specific field. And for Master's degree, I think it provides students with the chance to go into its specific field with what you like and allows you to do more academic research and practice more. So for me I think it's definitely essential. And from all these charts I think these three charts show that first the needs of the graduates school is increasing like many students want to go for graduate school. And also what the female number is increasing and natural the balance because 51% is somewhere around the balance. So I think it's very good phenomenon that students realize no matter boy or girl they've got to go to graduate school. And the third on is the students, even though there's not so many applicants [S2], applicants, but the enrolment is still low theirs. I think the school should expand its facility and the classroom for all these students who want to have a need. So for me I would agree with that. I think it's essential. What do you think? </sp2>
<sp1> I agree with en I agree with ***. En as a girl I I I can I can see this en this phenomenon, that is, that is, many girls can't find good jobs en because en many many companies many companies thought en thinks that en girls en girls have a lot of problems [Mr], en especially when [Wwh-v] they came when they came to the age of 20 23. So I think [Pk-er] maybe a good advice [Md] for girls is to is to study [Pu-r] en going on. En that that means en graduate [Pte-er] en gradua- graduate en that means en  </sp1>
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<sp2> Have you graduated? </sp2>
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<sp1> Yeah, I mean that, graduate  </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Yeah. ***, could you say something about you view of this topic? </interlocutor>
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<sp3> Yeah. Girls [Wir-u] compared with en girls compared with boys they will have some disad-disad-advantage disadvantages, but they have some they have also some en advantages en in in their in their in their wor- in their work. En that en for example en en in some in some presi-presides work they the the the the girls [Wir-u] may the work may need [Pd-er] need special special special patience. So the so the girls have some disadvantages. Boys en the  that's all. </sp3> 
<interlocutor> OK. En all right, that's the end of the discussion. And now I'd like to ask you the last question on the topic of enrolment of graduate students. So the first question for ***, and have you ever thought of studying [Pu-r] for a PHD in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yeah, I yes I have this stream en this dream. </sp3>
<interlofutor> Give your reasons, please. </interlocutor>
<sp3> En en en I en as I as I was en en as I was stu- en as I as I studied in primary school, my name my my dream is is becoming a scientists. Now I now [Wl-n] I I stu- I am studying in university [Wy-i:], and I and I prepre I'm preparing for my for my en bach-bachelor bachelor's degree en en and and I next aim for me is to achieve the Master degree. And [Pd-er] and [Pd-er] I from en from the from now I I have I have I have acquire some acquire some ability to study and research and I think the [We-e] the [We-e] aim [Wai-e] to the aim [Wai-e] to get PHD degree is not [Wn-l] is not [Wn-l] is not [Wn-l] very difficult for me. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok. Well the second question for ***. Bill Gates didn't finish university, do you think it's necessary to get a university degree? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well I think it's necessary. And that's also what Bill Gates said, because [Wau-ei] I I I notice that many people ask the same questions as you do, say, Ok Gates didn't finish college, but he is the most successful man on earth. And many few say they they just want to follow its mos en first step because it's a role model, but as well as himself said. And I agree with this is like he got a once in a life time chance. If you wasn't doing that, it wasn't promoting somewhere at that time he might lose that chance forever. But the chance is not for everyone. And for many students that I think they should finish what they learn in college and because nowadays a bachelor's degree sounds like fundamental education for most students and a Master's degree PHD's PHD's degree people might need it for different needs. And for undergraduate I think when you've learned four years in college, you don't only learned the knowledge but you learn the exper- you get experience of the society. And normally when people are in students, they are, say, 16 to 20 something, which means that they are not mature enough to handle different issues. And so I think for most students they'd better stays go on and finish the Bachelor's degree and then go to their move, probably go to the Master's degree probably go to work. And that's up to them. And for this, that's what I said. Bill Gates will he would want to finish college if he didn't get the software chance. That's what I hold[po-r]because he was giving an interview, and from that I know that he agrees that most students should stay in school, too. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok. Well the third question for ***. Are there other ways of continuing one's education besides going to graduate school? </interlocutor>
<sp1> En I think en I I think going en to the graduate school is not the only [Wo-e] way. En for such [Pch-er] as you can en you can you can learning by yourself en en after you after you go to work, you can you can use the the spare time en to learn to learn en some knowledge [Pdg-er]. En because en because I think if you if you stay en stayed in school for en for a too long time, may- maybe you will find you have you you en you can't you can't adapt society [Pie-r] easily. So en if you if you en work and [Pd-er] and as as you work you are working you studies [Pu-r] knowledge [Pdg-er], maybe you can en maybe you can choose [Wch-tr] some knowledge [Pdg-er] that connecting what you are what you are doing. En en and [Pd-er] en and I think that maybe more practical. That's all, thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor>  Ok, that's the end [We-ae] of the test. Thank you, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spall>
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