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<participant interlocutor=1 speaker=3> <participant>
<speaker sp1=male sp2=male sp3=female> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=male> </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> Good afternoon, everybody. Could you please tell me your name and the number of your admission tickets? You please. </interlocutor>
<sp1> My name is *** and my number is 1705. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yes. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***. My number is 1729. </sp2>
<sp3> My name is ***. My number is 1730. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. OK. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah. I'm I'm very [We-ae] glad to be here and I from Henan province. Erm, I I have I have many hobbies such as football, basketball and and so on. </sp1>
<sp2> Hello, my name is ***. I'm currently a senior major in tourist management. And in my spare time, I'm a English tour guide working for CITS which stands for China International Travel Service. I learnt a lot from my work, both in language skill and in social experience. And today I'm more than happy to have this chance to meet all of you here. Thank you very much. </sp2>
<sp3> OK. My name is *** and I'm 22 years old. I major in engineering management. In my spare time I like [Pk-er] do some reading, playing chess and read some English novels. Em I like English very much [Pch-i] and especially like oral English [Wsh-i]. Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> OK. Now that we know each other, we can do some group work. First of all, I'd like to ask each of you a question. ***. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Do you think it is important to have college education? Why or why not? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah, I think [Wth-s] it's it's necessary [Mssa] to have college   I beg your pardon? Sorry. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Do you think it's important to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp1> College education, yeah yes of course. Em college education can give us more can give us many thing such as knowledge and abilities. Em from college education, we can learn more and and learn how to go with how to get along with others. And most important we can learn a lot of a lot of knowledge. Erm that's all, thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor> OK. ***, do you think it's possible for every middle school graduate to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well, firstly I'd say every middle school student want to have the opportunity to enter the university. It's the dream of every Chinese middle school student. However, I think reality still in this period, it is really hard for every Chinese students to go to college. Cause there are so many population so many young people in middle school in China, but there a limit number of universities in China. So. Although it is good for everybody to receive a high education, but I think it is really hard. But I think now the education department of China is doing a lot of job and they are making their efforts to expand the number of the students. So the situation will getting much better in the coming maybe the next coming couple of years. Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> OK. ***, is it reasonable for college students to pay their tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp3> I beg your pardon. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Is it reasonable for college students to pay their tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Erm I think [Pk-er] erm it I think [Pk-er] it is erm the students' duty to pay tuition, erm because [Pu-r] we accept the university education, so we should pay the tuition. So much. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about enrollment of graduate student in a certain province. I'd like you to talk about the information given in your chart. You have one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Now I'll give you the chart. Ok. You please begin. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Thank you. I'm very glad to see from this chart that the percentage of the applicants with working experience is increasing every year. I think there are at least three reasons. First of all I I think when the applicants they go to work they'll find the society need more education. If they are well very well educated, they will receive a high salary and a position in the company. So the first reason I think is that the society need them to get a high education. And I think the second reason is that now the depart- education department of China had declared some policy that some adults when they get married they can ask to expand a year in the university. Generally speaking we spend 3 year as a graduate student but if they want they can expand it to 4 or 3.5 year. I think this is the second reason. And I think another equal important reason is that when you apply for edu- graduate studies, more universities they want the students who have a lot of experience. I have such a experience. I'm now applying for graduate study in the United States of America, and many very famous universities they say do you have any experience working experience? such as Cornelling University, New York University cause my major is tourism. So I think these three are the main reasons. Thank you. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. This table tells us that the number of students applied for graduate studies are are the increase. Er especially [P2e-r] in the year of 2000 we saw that 29 thousand [Wth-s] of students a-applies applies graduate for graduate studies. Erm erm we all know that students graduate from usiver-universities er apply for a job is is difficult, for there're too many graduates. Er so and and jobs and now job and apply for jobs are more and more difficult so many so many students apply apply for graduate studies. And so we can and so we can get more and so we can get higher salaries and and good and more gradient working amount [Wou-e]. I think it's a key [Wey-ei] reason. And the second and secondly and secondly more and people would like to would like to live in campus [Pu-r] but not to but not going to the society, for the for the they [Wth-s] think [Wth-s] it's hard to deal with peoples to deal with other [Wth-z] peoples and they [Wth-z] prefer [S1] to live in campus [Pu-r] erm instead. </sp1>
<interlocutor> OK. *** please. </interlocutor>
<sp3> OK. Em the graph is about the increasing percentage of female graduates [Pt-i] students. We can see [Wee-ei] the percentage in 1980 is 10 percent. But in 2000 years it's 5 it's fifteen-one [Mn] percents. Em in the 20 years the percentage is growing by and by. Em I think the percen- the the reasons for the increase em maybe 3 em for em for 3 reasons. Em the first is em em our country is now pay more at-attention on education, em em especially em about especially the female education. Em and second reason is em everyone em is everyone began began to pay more attention em on the knowledge. Em without em without a lot of knowledge erm there will be little chance em to improve your-yourselves [Wo-au] [Wl-r] in society [Pe-r]. The th[Wth-s] the third [Wth-s] reason I think is the quality between female and male. Em in the past years em there is em a point it's there is there is a point  </sp3>
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<interlocutor> All right. </interlocutor>
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<interlocutor> Now we all have some information of the enrollment of the graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify your points. You have about 4.5 minute for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your presentation according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember, in your discussion should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Well, I'd like to give a start. As far as I am concerned, I have no doubt to say graduate education is very very essential for every college student, if they want to be the winner in the society. Do you agree? </sp2> 
<sp3> Em yes. Em I think the graduate education is the same important em because with the entering with the China [Pa-r] entering WTO em em the knowledge in every field is very important. </sp3>
<sp1> Er I can't agree with you two. Er and and to myself I and I will apply for graduate studies tomorrow er next year, sorry, next year. And my major is power engineering, and I think [Wth-s] I must apply for graduate studies for for more and more companies [S2] [Pa-r] needs needs higherer higherer in their [Wth-z] in their [Wth-z] house have more more higher knowledge. Er so  </sp1>
<sp3> Yeah. That's absolutely right. I think just now Son Yuehua have mentioned that after China's entery to WTO we are not facing the competitors from only China but from all over the world. We should understand that in western counties generally speaking the people they are very well educated. So if we want to win if I if we want to do much [Pu-r] or the trade in this world economy we should have a high education to know further. In this way we can do much better in our job. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. Er you please. </sp1>
<sp3> Yes. I agree with ***. Em the WTO with the China [Pa-r] entering the WTO there is a lot of trades between our county and the foreign countries. Em so em the graduate em the graduate education em is em is clearly is obviously important. Erm  </sp3> 
<sp2> Yeah. I take your point. And I think that another thing very important I want to mention here is that it is a need for ourself [Wl-r]. Cause I think after 4 years of undergraduate study, for me I don't think it is very em enough for me if I want to be a really high-standard people in the society, cause I'm just learn something very shallow, both in my knowledge and my ability to face the social experiences. </sp2>
<sp1> Er. Yeah. Let's focus our things [Wth-s] on the west of China. Em now our own country say and when was at the west of China is far behind the east. so we are in the west of china and see our city there are many universities and I think we should contribute [S1] more to our country, especially the west. So if we really want to contribute [S1] more we must learn more. And So our students I think the graduate studies is essential and necessary [S2]. </sp1>
<sp2> And another point we should not forget is that the number of graduate students is getting much more in the future years. If we do not have a higher education maybe it's still hard for us to find a decent job in the future. </sp3>
<sp3> Yes. A lot of students did are not satisfied with the education at present of em our county em our country education system. So a lot of studen-students em learn by themselves, em taking em taking a lot of examination. Em for example, em GRE and TOFLE to go abroad for further em education. Em em they they aim they aim at em horizon their em open em horizon their knowledge and open their mind. </sp3>
<interlocutor> All right. That's the end of the discussion. I'd like to ask you just one last question of our topic of enrollment of graduate students. *** </interlocutor>
<sp1> Oh yeah. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Have you ever thought of study for a PhD in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp1> PhD? </sp1>
<interlocutor> PhD degree. The Doctor's degree. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Er maybe maybe. I I think PhD is important but I also must must consider my family's economic economic economics. I I'm from village. I'm not from city. And and I think [Wth-s] apply for graduate study is is er need a lot of money. Doctor's maybe </sp1>
<interlocutor> ok. ***. Some people leave the well-paid job to get graduate education. Do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor> 
<sp2> Well, first of all [Wl-r] I think it's a hard choice. Well when the people they are very well paid and they are in the very high position in the company, it's very hard for them to leave their job and leave their high-paid salary to just pursue education. However, when I've seen that a lot of people who are very well paid and who are high position officials in company, they would like to leave their job to pursue a degree such as the MBA Master Business of Administration for 2 years. I think it's very necessary for them. I think there are 2 reasons. The first one is that after working for several years they understand if they want to further develop themself and if they want to better their job and better their life quality, it's very important to learn more. And I think besides these obvious reason there lies a more in-depth reason. That's that's after working for several years they know what they do really need. So they will return to campus [Pu-r] and continue their study. So I think it's very necessary. Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> OK. ***, are there any other ways of continuing one's education besides going to graduate school? Please say something about. </interlocutor> 
<sp3> Em em after my studying [Pu-r] in the university, I think em I will I will study further. I must perhaps I will go into post-graduation post-graduation. Em I think em now em the knowledge em for em for the university student is not enough. And em the employment em the employment pressure will em will become larger and larger, so em the further study is em em em is of importance. </sp3>
<interlocutor> OK. that's the end of the test. Thank you everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spall>
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