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<participant interlocutor=1 speaker=3> </participant>
<speaker sp1=female sp2=male sp3=female> </speaker>
<interlocutor interlocutor=?> </interlocutor>
<spall> Good afternoon. </spall>
<interlocutor> Would you please tell me your names and numbers of your admission tickets? From you on. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yes, my name is ***. My number is 1831. </sp1>
<sp2> My name is ***. My number is 1859. </sp2>
<sp3> My name is *** and my number is 1889. </sp3>
<interlocutor> OK! Now, would you please quickly introduce yourself to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
<spall> OK! </spall>
<sp1> OK, my friend. My name is ***, you know and my major is finance. And I am twenty now. I'm a  I'm a girl of lot of habbies and hobbies. May be some music, films, and reading, especially novels. I have playing, playing all the interesting things, games. And  maybe, sometimes, I'm not a  I'm not a  a not good student, because I'm not hard in study. But I'm lucky because I can  I always can pass my examination. So  I  I like people. I like ... commu ... communicate with people with ... with all kinds of people. Because I wants to make friends of ... of ... of all kinds of the people ... es ... especially you two. I hope we can be friends after this examination. Oh, that's all, thank you. </sp1>
<sp2> Oh, my name is ***. And I ... I'm from Jian ... I'm from Jiansu and I'm twenty two years old. And ... I my I major is optics and ??? engineering, which is a very new and ... erm very promising technology. That's all. </sp2>
<sp3> Mm my name is ***. Er I'm a ... I'm a junior student from computer science. Eh, I took part in the CET baed ???? for last year. But I didn't took the oral test in May, because I think maybe my oral English is not very good. So I took most ... almost half a year to practice. So today is my first day to ... take part ... er ... this oral test examination and I'm ... I feel bit nervous. Erm ... no matter what today will ... I will perform I think it maybe one of the thing I won't forget because this is my first. Thank you. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Now, OK, now that you've known each other, we can do some group work. First of all, I'd like to ask each of you a question. Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yes. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Is it reasonable for common students to pay for their tuition? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Tuiviation? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Tuition. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Tuition. ... ... You ... You mean, to pay tuition ... for the students itself? </sp1>
<interlocutor> Is it reasonable for common students to pay for their tuition?</interlocutor>
<sp1> ... ... I think it is. I think it is, because I think ... ... I just do ... I just do wonder ... your ... your question. Should tuition is pay for ... is pay by ourselves or by our parents? </sp1>
<interlocutor> It's up to you. </interlocutor>
<sp1> It's up to ... it's up to me. So, because in China, I think, the tuition is always the burden of our parents, ... because we haven't job or we have no abili ... the ... ability to earn money or earn our living. So ... I think ... but tuition is ... is necessary to pay for the school. So, I think, it's my ... parents' maybe ... it is in China, parents always think it is their ... it is their ... respons ... its responsibility to pay the tuition for their children if they can go to college. Aher, I don't know ... I don't know what does ... the question is really means. So I just ... I just answer it in my ... in my ... ... in my understanding. </sp1>
<interlocutor> OK! So, do you think it's possible for every middle school graduates to have a college education? </interlocutor>
<sp2> ... Erm, it depends, I think. Ev ... some students work harder and spend on ... most of their time to ... on most of ... most of most time on studying the ... I think they can ... mm ... pass the ... mm ... entrance examination very smoothly and they can ... they can score high marks in the exam. So they can enter the ... college or enter the campus ... very successfully. Erm ... on the contrary, some students ... some students were ... were very lazy ... are very lazy. And they ... they never spend their time ... mm ... studying. ... mm ... all ... all they ... all they ... all they ... all they do i ... is just ... playing and playing. Such other day ... mm ... they spended ... spend their time reading novels and ... play gambles and ... now ... mm ... as ... eh ... now they serf the Internet very crazily I think. They are ... So ... Yes, if they ... if they spend their ... time on the other aspects, I think the ... mm ... the chance is very less ... erm ... chances are very fat ... fat chance. ... erm ... but I think ... mm ... if ... if someone really want to ... enter the entrance ... er ... enter ... enter the college ... mm ... I think if they believe ... as a perfect goals like this ... er ... if you can see it and believe then they can achieve. ... And ... that's it. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok! Miss ***, have you ever thought that ... continuing your education after you graduate? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes </sp3>
<interlocutor> Well. </interlocutor>
<sp3> I think, as a ... economic develop, every one has to ... and as also as the development of the technology ... erm ... the what we ... what we get or what we learn in the college is not enough for us to ... to use in our future work. So every one, if they have the chance and they have the ability, they should ... mm ... they should search for something ... highly, higher education if they have the chance. So, erm ... after ... after my graduation I think I will choose to erm ... studying more for the graduation erm education. I think it will improve myself. ... more. Ok.! </sp3>
<interlocutor> Let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollments of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollments of graduate students in a certain province. I would like you to talk about the information given in your charts. You may have one minute to prepare. And each of you will have one and half minutes to give your presentation. No more, if I interrupt you when time is up. Now, give your response. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> ***, would you please give *** and ***. Please put your charts aside and listen to what Miss says </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm ... the reason ... of an increasing in number of student by for graduate studies. ... I think ... ... First ... first of all, the ... ... I think it is depend on the ... society now. ... Erm ... maybe in the eighties ... in the eighties ... in and maybe Oh! the last century in eighties ... a graduate of university is very ... is is was thought very high of the society. It be maybe ... they have ... they have enough ... knowledge and ability to take part in all kinds of jobs. And ... they can ... I think a graduate is enough for that society of China. But now ... ... there are ... more and more graduates in the society ... just like us. So, maybe it's enough it's not enough ... for we for us to ... to achieve our ... achieve our ... ... ???? our hopes. Maybe we want a more ... a more good a a a better maybe we want a better job or we may or maybe we want a ... a further education ... to ... to improve ourselves ... to ... improve our abilities ... to get ... a ... better result. So we want to ... so we want to applying for graduate studies. Mm ... I think the reason is ... is factual. ... How, well ... ... mm ... ... as for me I think I will ... I I also want to ... I also want to applying for graduate studies because I want I think the graduate is not enough for me to get a better job. If I graudate from universities, I want to ... take a furthering education for graduate studies. I think that's the reason. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok! Time is up. Now, Mr. ***. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Mm ... ... I think ... mm this increa this increase erm in the percentage of applicants ... Erm ... ... I first I think it is very reasonable ... erm ... for ... erm ... in modern society lot of companies and some work units need erm ... more ... more worker on need more ... erm emplo ... employees who have a ... have good skills and ... mm ... and good a ... abilities to deal with a lot of things in daily life and ... and routine work. Erm ... if ... if ... mm ... if some if some students who ... mm ... who ... haven't this ... erm ... social skills and ... er ... abilities, I think they can't find the ... can't find a good company or ... good work unit to work. Mm ... it ... erm ... now the ... the society is ... not what it used to be ... days are ... now our ... society is a is erm ... economic market economic ... economy market economy. Erm ... sometimes ... time is money and ... the speed is money. And er ... if you can ... if you can mm ... if you can ... ... ah if if you can ... have a ... good social skills and ... erm abilities, I think ... you can ... you can deal with things very successfully. And ... then, you won't ... you won't you won't find the work very tired ... erm ... and you can enjoy the work and er ... mm ... make it make good make good salary and you can realize your ... realize your hope and erm ... </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok! Sorry. Time is up. Miss ***, it's your order. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok! My chart is about the number of the ... graduate students of graduate ... students, the increase of the ... graduate students. Eh ... there are there are three points in the timetable ... eh ... nineteen eighty, nineteen eighty-five and nineteen ninety and two thousand. And we can see the increase is really dramatic. Mm ... from nineteen in nineteen eighty, there are only ten percent of the female students could ... erm ... br ... receive the graduate ... education. Erm ... at that time I think the reason that the female students is much ... erm ... much fewer than the than the male students maybe maybe because at that time there were very many kids in one family. So, and the and the parents can't afford all the fami all the kids to receive a higher education. So, and ... at the traditional attitude ... in of the female and ... and male in China is that ... erm ... male is ... much more smarter than the female students. So they will send the ... maybe the the sons to go to college ... eh not the daughters. But ... as as we can see, the development of our education and our economic, mm ... the ... number of the female student. It grows ... much faster, from twenty-four percent to forty-one percent in 1990. Because erm ... maybe we we we have done it only ... only ask er ... one family to have ... only one child. So ... it if they have a daughter and they found that ... eh ... the daughter is ... very good at study and the parents have the money to afford it, so they will send the daughter to the university and er ... in the twenty thousand year, the female students number is fifty-one percent, almost as equal as the ... as the man students. So it ... reflect that maybe the attitude of people's ... erm ... about ... male and female in the society has changed. Erm ... it it it tell us maybe female students if they want to and have ability to go to ... erm ... university and parents will send them to. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok! That's all, thank you. Time is up. Now, as you all have some idea of the enrollment of graduate students, I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. During the discussion, you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You may have four or five minutes for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember, during the discussion, you should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is success ... is essential for a successful career? Now you may begin. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Can we start? </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yes, you may begin now. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Ok! Erm ... I think many many students in college now erm they want to receive er ... graduate graduate education so they prepare for the test, the entrance test you know. Many people are prepare for them. Erm ... even after erm ... the junior year, but I don't think the graduate ... education is really essential for students, because ... I think that ... education stu education graduate education is very important, because it is a way of receive further education. But it's not the only way. If you can self-stu ... self-study and you really have the ... the ... the the thinking of improve idea to improve yourself you can study by yourself or receive some erm ... some some some education erm ... provided by the college. So, it is not ess ... essential for students to receive the graduate ... graduate education. But I think it's good way. </sp3>
<sp1> Mm ... I agree with you. But, and I ... I heard you said just now, you said you want to get the graduate ... studies after your ... after your graduate ... after university. </sp1>
<sp3> Yes? </sp3>
<sp1> And do you think a girl ... is suitable for the graduate study? A girl. </sp1>
<sp3> Yes, girls and boys I think are equal. </sp3>
<sp1> But it is said that ahm ... in society if you graduate if a girl graduate from the ... graduate studies, maybe she is ... some some somewhat older, maybe. </sp1>
<sp3> No, I don't think. </sp3>
<sp1> for the ... for the job. You know when you graduate, maybe you ... you are twenty ... twenty four or twenty five. And when you go to when you go to find a job, you ... the the the company the company will thought that you ... will think that ... you maybe are older and er ... after you work maybe a year or ... or two year, you maybe get married, you maybe have a baby, and you can't concentrate on your work. So ... so they prefer a ... boy who graduate from university ... to a ... girl who who graduate by the graduate studies. </sp1>
<sp2> I think no matter mm ... no matter boy or girl, and they ... they also need a ... the graduate eit education. Because when we study at college erm ... we often mm ... memorize mechanically mm not not to do ... erm ... not to think creatively. All we do is just for mm ... scramy for the ... scramy for the exam ... at the end of the term. So I think if you want to erm ... er achieve great success in your life in your career, I think the ... graduation ... education is very necessary for you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Alright, this is the end of the discussion. Now, I'd like to ask you just one last question on the topic of enrollments of graduate students. Miss ***? ... Some people leave a well-paid job to get a graduate education. Do you think it's worthwhile? </interlocutor>
<sp1> As for me, I think if the work is ... is what I liked I I want to do and if the pay is ... is well, I think I want to ... I think it is su suitable for me and er ... I think it's worthwhile. Erm ... I'll choose to work instead of graduate studies. ... ... Mm that's all. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok! Mr, *** ... Bill Gates, you know? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Yeh. </sp2>
<interlocutor> didn't even finish university. Do you think it's necessary to get a university degree? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Ahm everyone know Bill Gates is very successful man in IT ... IT. Erm ... once I heard mm ... he said ... if there there is a chance for him he will return the campus for his study, for his further study ... for his further study. Because he said mm ... with the development of science and technology and ... no man can no one can grantee his ... his knowledge about the science and technology is enough ... to mm ... to run his company or mm ... make er ... or achieve great success in his career or life. So he also he also think mm ... it's very necessary for him if there is one more chance for him, he will choose to mm ... return campus to ... for her for his father study. I think erm ... as for me, I will mm ... I will strive to ... strive to prepare prepare for the entrance entrance examination for ... graduate education. Ok! </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok! Last question for Miss ***. Are there any other ways of continuing one's education besides going to graduate school? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes, I think there are many ways mm ... as I have said, graduate eh ... graduate education is only one way erb maybe a good way to receive further education, but it's not the only way. So, if you want to study, if you want to receive a further education, you can ... just like self-study. It is a good way. And you can, if you do have the time to go to the school everyday our daily time you can mm ... you can join some English classes erm ... that opened by the campus. You can also get a diploma erm ... from the c(mp from the ... from university er ... about your graduation ... graduation education, and you can also get an edu education on the Internet or on the radio. It is on depends yourself. But, I think the most important is that you should have the ability to ... to ... mm to show that you are ... the qualified education er ... for the graduation ... gra graduate student. ... So there are many ways, with not only one. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Ok! That's the end of the test. Thank you all. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you! </spall>
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