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<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<sp1> My first. My name's ***. My number is zero [Wz-dz], en  zero [Wz-dz] nine three five. En  my major my major is chemical engineering. I'm come from Hebei province [Wv-w]. en I en I think I'm a silent boy. I think  I  after  in the future I will  improve my speaking [Wp-p] ability. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Now thank you. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is ***. Enand my number is 0943. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Now next please. </sp2>
<sp3> My name is ***. My number is 1051. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yes, ok. Now would you please briefly introduce yourself to each other? Remember, you shouldn't mention the name of your university. Yeah, please not. </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yeah, glad to introduce myself about me first. And my major is information and psychology engineering. And I've many hobbies, like watching TV, reading books, or swimming, or something else. And I'm from Xi'an. I love love this city very much. And I hope all will have an excellent chance to communicate ten minutes. That's all. </sp3>
<sp2> Ok, may I introduce myself? En  I am Linder, from Chengdu Sichuan province. En  and I like spicy food. My major is telecommunication engineering. And I'm [Wi-ae] a junior, en ... my hobby is traveling and I like making friends. That's all, thank you. </sp2>
<sp1> My name is ***. I come from Hebei province [Wv-w]. En  I'm a major in Chemical Engineering Department. En  en  I en  I hab  en I  habbit is play football  en  that's all. Thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Ok, now now we know each other, we can do some group work. First of all let me ask each of you one question. Now the first question is for ***. Do you think is important to have a college education, why or why not? </interlocutor>
<sp1> EnThank [Wth-s] you  en  en  I think it is very important to have a college education, because in the future, en  en  the world need more and more en  educated men en  in in every things. The college education can give give a man the video to compete compete you with others in en  in en  in the daily life. So I think so are important, and and getting getting a college college education is possible. So I think it is important. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Yeah,ok. Now next question is for ***. Have you ever thought of thought about continuing your education after your graduate? </interlocutor>
<sp2> En  yes, en  I have thought about them [We-e]. I want to be a post graduation after I have been en  graduated, because I think in nowadays the en  science and technology is very important, and as we en  as us we'd better have as much en  as much en  knowledge [P2e-I] en  as we can. En  after we entered WTO, the communication is en  very great. And en  and I must learn much more. It's said that in my en  in my department, as you as you know, telecommunication engineering en  is not very en  is not very  it did not very good in now, because en  because something en  happened these days. And worry, perhaps you know, didn't take new employers employ these days. So I think it is better for me to stay in school much more years and study more knowledge. Thank you. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Now next question is for ***. Why do you think universities and colleges are increasing the number of their students now? </interlocutor>
<sp3> I think it is because of the influence. Throughout the country now more and more people pay attention to education and more and more parents want their children to get further education. So our government increase the number who can go abroad and college or university to let them to seek better and higher education. And second reason is that we can see many parents sent their children abroad. I don't know why let the foreigner enget the money from the parents, why we country  other country take it. So we can make better and ??? for the for the children to receive better condition. So I think en  increasing the number of the en  university or college it's it's an essential one for our country. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Now let's know something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is enrollment of graduate students. Each of you will be given a chart with information about the enrollment of graduate students in a certain province. I like you to talk about information given in your chart. You will have one minute to prepare and each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. Don't worry if I stop you when time is up. Now here are your cards. </interlocutor>
<interlocutor> ***, would you please start first? *** and *** please put your card aside and listen to what *** have to say. </interlocutor>
<sp3> My card shows when increase the percentage of the students of graduate students and we can see the number from 1980 to 2000, and we can see in 1980 only 10 percent at the end of graduate test, and then to the 2000, it is the number , it is the relation 31percent. And we can see the test the tract increasing sharply. From 1951 it is only 25 percent, until 2000 it double, it is 31 percent, just as I mentioned before. As we can see it's ???????, I think it is a very good news. First it shows that in today's Chinese society boys and girls or we can say man and woman enjoy equal rights. And they do pay they get the equal attention from the society. They might from their parents, from the school, or from the  the  I'm not sure here, from China. And second reason, I think it is because of the and the development of education, you know the value  </sp3>
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<interlocutor> Ok, I have to stop you here. ***, now it's your turn. </interlocutor>
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<sp2> This pic  this map shows increasing the percen percentage of applicant in the two years, or these two years or more working experience. It shows that from 1980 to 2000, en in 1980, it's 35 percent and in 2000 it's fifty it's fifty three percen-percent [S1], and it's well  it's nearly double [Wle-ou] the  double [Wle-ou] the percent in 1980, and it shows that it shows that the applicant the applicant is en  is increasing sharply these days, and there are more chances and opportunities for us. Working [Wor-oo]  working  working experience en working experience is very en  how to say is much more important.  And  en  </sp2>
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<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Yeah, ***, now it's your turn. </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Seeing my people [Wle-ou], we can see in the 1980 there are almo-almost all the all the applicant are the  are enrolled, but in the  en in the twenty in the  en  eigh  twenty years before  but in the twenty years after, there are only three thousand people are enrolled. En there are I think there are  en  a lot of reasons en  for thi this situation. The [Wth-dz]  the [Wth-dz] influence en  as increase our our en  feeling condition, en our parents, and students have [Wv-w] a have [Wv-w] a strong have a strong will to getting en more more education, but  en  but the [Wth-dz]  en but the [Wth-dz] facibility is not increase en increase. So there are there are  en  en  en  there there are some disadvantages for for situation.  En  en  in  in  in 2000 year there are almost there are only 3000 people can are enrolled. Others are not not  can't get the education. I don't know the word  <sp1> 
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Now all have some ideas of enrollment of graduate students. I'd like you to discuss this topic further and see if you can agree on whether graduate education is necessary for a successful career. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify a point. You will have about four and a half minutes for the discussion. Your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Remember, during the discussion you should try to come to an agreement on whether graduate education is essential for a successful career. Now, you can start. </interlocutor>
<sp2> It's said that female graduate students are not are not treat equally as as male graduate students, en  and  do you think so? </sp2>
<sp3> Yeah. It is the fact since I'm a girl. I know that the girl and boy are not treated as equal. But I think normally it is not essential to a success, basically it is not, but it's other  the first the  the  the first road for success. You know the long way to success need every  need many things, not only  Of course includes graduation. But I don't think graduation is essential to a success. What do you think? </sp3>
<sp1> Yeah. I agree with he  his attitude. I think graduat-ion is not only for success. What do you think about it? </sp1>
<sp2> En  I think the most important thing is en ... for our successful en  career is knowledge and much more working experience. Now en  I know from some worry and experience is is conside consende considered great in companies. </sp2>
<sp3> Yeah. I know that acquisition is important, but the acquisition just not graduation graduation capacity. I know it can gain from the working and it can gain from another way. And this experience can be due to success. And it does not mean to graduation and education. Thanks. </sp3>
<sp1> And also I think the gradu graduate educ education in our in our country is no values. En  en  in the  in the three years, you may not see your en ... your en  professor sometimes. Yes? </sp1>
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<sp2> Yes, not perhaps so many people go out go abroad, yes. </sp2>
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<sp1> I'm  en  in my  en  in may school  en ... I know a lot of student  post graduate students, they  en  they get the adu  post post-adu post graduate education just for such exam , such as GRE ,TOFLE. It's it's not very useful. </sp1>
<sp3> That is the problem, that is because of our system of our current education. And you know the current education system in our country really doesn't make needs of the market of the society of the technology development, so en  we need the development and then we have the chance the students to remind that graduate education is not essential to success, it is just part of it. If you get it, you may success, if you don't get, don't worry, you may success in other way. </sp3>
<sp2> But actually en  thebut actually if you are post graduation, it's it's do well to your work., because en  we know, if we are graduation  if we are  just a graduation, we get much more salary from company, but if we are post graduation, the salary will the salary will be much more. </sp2>
<sp3> Much higher. </sp3>
<sp2> Much higher, yeah. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Ok, I have to stop you here. Let's end the discussion. Now I'd like to ask you just one last question on the topic of enrollment of graduate students. Yeah, the first question is for ***. Would you change your major if you were to study for Master's degree, why or why not? </interlocutor>
<sp1> No, I don't. I like  en  my major is chemical engineering; I like chemistry, because I think I think is very useful in our daily life, in our  en  industry [S2]. So I will I will contribute myself in contribute myself in it. In the future I think the che  che  chemistry will be  be  become essen  become essential industry [S2] to our country [Wou-aa], so I don't I think I won't change my major. En  that's all. <sp1> 
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. Next question is for ***. Bill Gates didn't even finish university. Do you think it is necessary to get a university degree, why or why not? </interlocutor>
<sp2> En  ah  I think our country is different from Bill's country, and  en  and I think the degree is also important in my country. En  so I think and to me I will finish my degree in my school and get much as higher as possible en  and  en  if you get  and in school I can study a lot en  the experience from the teacher and from the book, the knowledge in  the knowledge which was get from  which was get by our by our teachers and our father and  and other people [Wle-u]. So study more is very important, but to somebody [Wo-e] somebody [Wo-e] else, I think if they have the ability, they can go out [Pt-er] of the school and do something they like to do. En  perhaps er  I think different people [Wle-u] en  different people [Wle-u] has different has different situations. And I would do I would stay in school and get my degree others can go out [Pt-er] of school. That's my point. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Yes, thank you. The last question is for ***. Have you ever thought of study for Doctor's degree in the future? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yeah. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Then why? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yesh. You know there's many reasons to do that. First because I'm a girl. You know girl is in a ????? situation in a job hunting, many company many company want a boy, not a girl. Because  I don't want to mention here. So the higher the higher degree may be that for a girl's. I would to get a doctor degree. Second reason is that I like to study at school, and I think that will be better for my future, and for my further research, and for my future career. And knowing more will not be my burden and it may help me much more. So I think getting a doctor's degree is my  my dream. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Yeah, ok. that' the end of our test. Thank you, everybody. </interlocutor>
<spall> Thank you. </spalll>
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