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<interlocutor interlocutor=female> </interlocutor>
<spall> Good afternoon. </spall>
<interlocutor> Could you please tell us your name and the number of your admission ticket now? </interlocutor>
<sp1> OK, my name is *** and my number is 0365. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Good. </interlocutor>
<sp2> My name is *** and my number is 0372. </sp2>
<sp3> My number is ***, my numb My name is ***, my number is 0373. </sp3>
<sp4> My name is ***. My number is 0380. </sp4>
<interlocutor> Good. Then would you please briefly introduce yourselves to each other? Remember you should not mention the name of your university. </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. I'm *** and Susan is my English name. I'm in Grade 3 and my major is Business Administration. I like my major and, er, I'm also, at, at the same time, I also very interested in finance [S1]. I have many hobbies. Mm, my favorite sports is playing football. Many people may not believe that. Er, but, er, and I think maybe they think that I'm not strong enough. And I like seeing m.., er, I seeing, er, I like seeing films and enjoy reading, er, er, magazines about movies and movie stars. I'm proud of two things. One is my hometown, Jiangsu which is beautiful and suitable for living. Another is my, mm, easygoing characteri... characteristic and I like making friends. That's all. Thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Thank you. And Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Er, I'm from Wuhan. I'm right now, I'm twenty years old. And I likes living in Beijing, because it is really a convenient city to us to live in. And I took major in, er, International Trade. And I, I do have a lot of hobbies now. Er, I do like playing the piano when I was in my, er, leisure time. And I like listening to some music, er, es especially the classical music. And, er, I like, er, play the badminton, er, swimming. And especially I like make friends, so I'm really happy to be here with these three. That's all. </sp2>
<interlocutor> And you, Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Er, I come from Hebei Province and growing up in a very happy family. My father is a worker in a s, state-owned factory. My mother is an English teacher in a middle school. Er, now I, my, I'm majoring in finance. I like this major very much so I, I would like to, to study here fur... further. And [Pd-er] my hobbies is is traveling and reading. I like reading many different kinds of books such [Wu-a:] as novel, erm geography, philosophy and society. And also I like traveling with my friends or with my parents. In the past few years, I have traveled to such as cities Dalian, Qin Huangdao and some, some country, some na... mountains. I think the beautiful nature and the [Wth-z] cities can teach a lot of knowledge besides books. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Good. You... </interlocutor>
<sp4> My name's ***. I'm twenty years old. Er, my major is Business Administration. Er, I'm an [Mn] outgoing person. And I like to make friends. I did have a lot of friends. We [Ww-v] always get on well [Ww-v] with [Ww-v] er... we [Ww-v] always [Ww-v] get on very well [Ww-v] with [Ww-v] each other. I have a lot of hobbies. My favorite is reading. Er, from, er, when [Ww-v] I was a child I began to crazy about reading. And I like, I like, er, listening to the music and doing some exercise and travelling. Er, my greatest dream is to travel around the world. My personal motto is Always [Ww-v] have a dream. That's all. Thank you. </sp4>
<interlocutor> Good. Thank you. Now that we know each other, we can do some group work. First of all, I'd like to ask each of you to say something about scientific inventions. Ok, er Miss ***, listen to the first question. Do you think scientific inventions have made our life easier and more comfortable than before? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yes, of course. Er... </sp1>
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<interlocutor> Can you give me an example? </interlocutor>
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<sp1> Yeah, can I take an [Mn] old example? Er, for example of the light and made by Edison. And mm we cannot, we cannot imagine if there, if there, if there were, er, were not, er, light, how can I, how can I work, how can I live. And yes, maybe, maybe, er, several years, se- er several hundred years ago, er, people live without light, but they met, met, met a lot of difficulties. And then, er, cannot, er, and then, it's not good for their eyes and their working efficient is not high, efficiency is not high. Now we can see with light, er, er, we can study in a bright, er, in, in a bright ??. Er, and, er, we, and another examp... another example related to the light is electricity. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Electricity? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah. Electricity you, er. Now er we can use, er, er, such as a camera, and the, er, many other things. If, if without electricity, and, er, we cannot, we cannot imagine [Mne] what the life, er, would be. Mm, and there are, there are many, hmm, there are many things that change our lives. And the scientific inventions, mm, play a gr... play a great role in our lives. Mm, and I, I, I think everyone could, could feel that. That's all. Thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Good. Now Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp2> Uhum. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Listen to your question. Do you think advances in science and technology have a negative effect on the environment? </interlocutor>
<sp2> On the environment? </sp2> 
<interlocutor> Yes. </interlocutor>
<sp2> Uh, well, uh, I do believe that. You know, right now in China it is really a serious problem of, er, er, of pollution. That is because of the factories. And factories because of so many, you know, many scientific technologies that people are invented. So I really did believe that it really gave us something. You know every coin has two sides. So maybe it has some, something that can improve our society. But on the other hand, it gi... really give us some serious harm. And, er, for example, uh, I live, yeah, beside Yangzi River. The Yangzi River used to be very a clean river. But right now it is really a little bit dirty. And you can see many many floats on the river. So I think really it's a bad thing. But ?? serious problem is caused by the factories along the river. And these river, I think, I do believe that they are the, er, produc... productions of the scientific technology sometimes. Maybe you can say that... So I do believe this. </sp2>
<interlocutor> OK, thank you. Er, now Miss ***? Er is the use of computers popular among university students nowadays? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Why? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Er, I think the Internet is the main [Wai-e] factor. Uh, because the students could use that for our study and also for our en entertainment [We-i]. For example, er when [Ww-v] we [Ww-v] fini... when [Ww-v] we [Ww-v] study our, our major, we must use a lot of resources from the Internet, because, er, some, some, some resources from the, the, for foreign countries, er, just study in the foreign, in the foreign schools or institutes [S3] must be studied [Wu-a:] in my campus, on my campus. So we must [Wu-a:] use the Internet for some resources. And also in our spare time, we use the Internet to make friends, like chatting. Mm, I think also there are very, very interesting games. For example, music could be, could be used, could be get down from the Internet. And in my opinion, my students around me like this tool very much. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Thank you. Now Miss ***. Erm, some people say that the computer is the most important invention of the last century. Do you agree? </interlocutor>
<sp4> Yes, I agree.<sp4>
<interlocutor> And why? </interlocutor>
<sp4> Mm, because I think computer is very complex, er, equipment for people. Er, because you can, for example you can keep in touch with some friends who abroad, who are abroad, uh, who is not in, who is not around you, er, by, by email. Mm, and I think computer can solve a lot of problem, problems, such as, such as the mathematics, physicals, and economics. Er, and I think [Wth-s] computer is the most, the most, sorry. Mm... computer is the most, er... Computer can give us a lot of information. Er, the Internet is very important. Er, it can provide us, er, what, what, whatever information you want. So I think it's very important. </sp4>
<interlocutor> Good, thank you. Now let's move on to something more specific. The topic for our discussion today is the use of computers. And each of you will be given a card concerning the use of computers for different purposes. I like you to talk about the benefits and problems of using computers according to your cards. You will have one minute to prepare. And each of you will have one and a half minutes to give your presentation. And don't worry if I interrupt you when time is up. Ok? Here are your cards. Right, Miss ***, could you please begin? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Ok. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Oh, the other people, could you please put your cards aside and listen to what she has to say. </interlocutor>
<sp1> As everybody knows that using computer, using computers is a ?? and ?? And it has many, it has er many advantages and also have many dis-disadvantages. Er, I think there are many many things that using using computers can give us. And for, for example, that mm, if we [Ww-v], er, if we want to some information and go to library. Oh, it's very time-consuming. And if we [Ww-v] can go to the Internet, er, it's very easy for us to search something. Mm, for example, nowadays, many, mm, many, er, many students want to write some papers and, er, and they want to search some, search some, er, documents and information. And the, maybe they find that the [Wth-z], er, the books in the [Wth-z], er, library is not enough or some is, er, old, some is old, some are old. So they go to the Inter... Internet, er, and [Pd-er] do some research. And [Pd-er], the [Wth-z] er, and I think it's very efficient. This is the first one. And the second, because we go to the colleges and universities, many, er, many of our former classmates and friends are far away [Ww-v] from, from us and we want to communicate with them. And we know long-distance telephone is so expensive and writing letters is ti... quite time-consuming. So send an email to your close friend is a good way [Ww-v] and we think that. Hmm, but, er, but there are some many problems in using computers now. Well [Ww-v], the first one is that many, er, many people are, mm many people liking, mm, chatting online, chatting online. But most of them, er, but of, most of the talks are, are nonsense, are ru... are rubbish. And ask what's your name, and where are you from, er, and er, is you, er, are, are you, are you a male, female. And al- also many, er, many people they cheat each other. I don't think it's a good way to communicate and make friends. And, er, you know, in Internet, on Internet, there are many unhealthy contents. And, mm, for adults [S2], I think, maybe, mm, the [Wth-z] harm is less. But for the, but for many child, for many children and for many students it's very, it's very harmful, and because they [Wth-z] are form their [Wth-z], mm, expect of the [Wth-z] world and expect of the [Wth-z] life. So if you, if you let them touch that things, I don't think it's benefit for their, er, for their growing up. Thank you. </sp1>
<interlocutor> Now Miss ***, it's your time. </interlocutor>
<sp2> OK. As we all know that it's very popular right now to study English on the Internet and to go on study on Internet. And many, many universities gave that programs. And, and I would just say something about advantages and disadvantages about using computers in education. Er, first you can go on, er, to study English on In- on Internet. As we all know, such as New Oriental, er, School and many other English schools, they give, er, education on Internet for the, er, maybe four bands, six bands, TOFEL or GRE examines, er, exa, er, examines, er, exams. And if you just want to go on study, you don't have to go to that school and you can get, you can get all the information from the Internet and it can er cost a lost of money and maybe, and save your time. And another thing that you can, er, if you are interest in something, er, in some specific subjects, you can just learn it and check it on Internet and just learn it by yourself. But, er, as I just have said that every coins have two sides, so, er, it's, er, it has, it has its, er, its disadvantages such as you don't have any teacher to give you any indication. Er, you have just to learn it by yourself. You don't have, er, maybe you sometimes you will lose, lose the direction. You don't, you don't know what you re... really want to do. And sometimes when you met with some problems and nobody can help you, you just hel... you just help yourself. I, I don't really think that, I don't like that feeling. And another thing is that you can't talk with your classmates [W2a-e]. You don't know who, who, anybody, er, who but else, er, is studying with you. And, and between you, you have no communications, so I don't think that is very good and can give you any benefits. But as we all know this is really give us some command, er, benefits of study for some students in the, er, in the dis in distant, er, places, so I really believe that, er, the computers give us a really, a lot of great things. </sp2>
<interlocutor> Good. Miss ***? </interlocutor>
<sp3> Yes. I'd like to talk about the benefits and also disadvan vantages, er, for watching VCDs and listening CDs on computer. First I think the play effect is very, much better for other tools, for example, the TV and radios. And the second, I think is most important is for, for our students, because, er, just right now we could not earn mu much money. Er, so we [Ww-v] could not buy a lot of CD or VCDs. But we [Ww-v] can use the Internet. For example, we could get some, some, some very interesting films or songs from the Internet and we [Ww-v] could use them for free. So it is very cheap. And also there are some, some disadvantages. Hmm, because, er, the CD and VCDs from online, er, are full of different kinds. Maybe some are very interesting and, and maybe some will play di play bad effect on you. And also we know we could play games on, on computer or online, but [Wu-a:], er, just like other people said, saying, that they said that playing games could train your ability to, to the [Wth-z] changes of environment around you. But I don't, I don't know if this is true, because I do not always play these [Wth-z] games. And also the disadvantage is very important for, especially those very young children. They may put, spent much time on playing games and also their study will [Ww-v] be effect, and their eyesight will be, er, will [Ww-v] be effect also. And in other, in other sense, for example, just like the, the first one said we could chat, chat with [Ww-v] other people online. But I think this was a, this may be dangerous, because you don't know the other people, er, what, er, what kind people of they, they are. Er, there are some tragic stories in our life. Some, some people, especially those young children may be cheated and may be very dangerous for them. </sp3>
<interlocutor> Thank you. </interlocutor>
<sp4> I will talk about the online shopping. As we know the online shopping is very popular today. Er, I think it has lots of benefits. First it's very convenien, it's very convenient. Er, you can buy what things you want without going out. You can achieve this only by a telephone or email. And the second is it. It has a large of information. You can compare, compare the things [Wth-s] you want and choose what you really want to, want to buy. Mm, however, it has a lot of risk. Er, I think the most one is the cheating. Er, because the seller on the net is unseen, so it's the best way to cheat the buyers. Er, for example, er, maybe you pay for the, the goods, but, but the sellers didn't email it to you. Er, maybe you, you buy the things [Wth-s] is not very good for you and is not what you want, but you can't find the sellers after that. So I think, er, it's the risk. mm mm however, er, there is a lot of risk on, in the online shopping, but I think online shopping's still popular and think it will grow more and more popular in future. </sp4>
<interlocutor> Thank you. Right now you all have some idea of the benefits and problems involved in the use of Computers. I'd like you to talk, er, to discuss this topic further and see if you can get to an agreement. Er, er, what is the greatest contribution of the computer and also what is the most serious problem brought about by its use. During the discussion you may argue with each other or ask each other questions to clarify your points. OK. You have about 4 and half minutes for the discussion. And your performance will be judged according to your contribution to the discussion. Erm remember, during the discussion you should try to come to an agreement on what is, er, greatest contribution of the computer and what is the most serious problem brought about by its use. OK? Now you may begin the discussion. </interlocutor>
<sp1> The most, the most, er, important thing I could imagine computer brings us is that information. You, er, the computer make you and make me close and makes, make, make the information go to by, go to by every, everybody of us, everybody, er, easier. And I think that's the most important information. What's your opinion? </sp1>
<sp2> Yeah, I quite agree with you. There are a lot of information, there's a lot of information on the Internet. But sometimes I really believe that you have to choose it. </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. </sp1>
<sp2> You believe that? There is some bad information, that, that some, that is not for the children, you know. You don't have to say, see. It's really give us a lot of, a lot of, er, convenience. How can you imagine, maybe twenty years ago, you can communicate with someone that is in America? That is really, it's out of us imagination. But right now, it's the truth. So I really think that, er, maybe you miss some friends, you can just, just as you talk, then we can email her and just tell her that I miss you. It's really, really, I, I think, er, computer is a great thing. But what about you? </sp2>
<sp3> Er, yes, I agree with [Ww-v] your opinion. But, but we [Ww-v], yes, we [Ww-v] should, we [Ww-v] should, could not ?? convenience and use the computers brought to us, to us. But, mm, just like you say every, every coins [Mn] have its two sides. Erm but in my opinion, computer also have some very bad effects, because, er, if computers, er, be used in some bad [Wa-ai] behaviors such as, er, the dangerous behaviors [Wa-ae], er, maybe do a lot of dangers to our, to our daily life. Because, just one example in everyday life is the, is the cheating and also in the states, in the country, er, many [Wa-ai] people could get some information belonging to other states through the computers. Er, I think this could be used very dangerous things. </sp3>
<sp4> Yes, I think computers has a lot of dangers. I think the [Wth-z] most one is the [Wth-z] computer crime on the hack. I think, er, becau for example, my computer has, has, has the co has meet the hack several times and my system will er, bro-broken out. So I think I will pay some money at some time. Mm, so I think [Wth-s] it's very serious. But I think [Wth-s] the computer also has its benefits. Just as you say, I think [Wth-s] the most one is Internet. Mm, because I have a friend, we are very, very good, so, but he, he study [Wu-a:] in the Hunan University. So we can only take email at every week. And, er, when, when, when, when ?? I can ta send the email to her. So I think it's convenient. </sp4>
<sp1> Just like I say, send an email is a fast, cheap and convenient way. And, er, just now you mentioned that do er some shopping. </sp1>
<sp4> Shopping, on the Internet , yeah. </sp4>
<sp1> In this point, I quite agree with you. Er, because I have do some shopping on the Internet. I ordered some books and they, er, send me very quickly. Mm, I think, er, I like, I like this pattern. What about you? </sp1>
<sp2> Yeah, I just want to say some disadvantages, because some, some students in my class, they just is in- indulge in  playing the games on Internet, you know. They don't, they deserted their study and they don't wanna, wanna to go to school. They just play the game and game all day. And I think that's really bad. But I do believe that if you are really interested in the games, maybe you can sometimes, you can design the game for yourself. Yeah, you know, a classmate in my, in my university design a game and start his own corporation. I do think that all things are judged, er, according to yourself. If you really, if you don't really, er, agree, er, er, if you have something that you really know what you wanna to do, so maybe some, some tragedies or something, cheatings won't happen. Then what about you? </sp2>
<sp3> I think most of our saying is about our daily life that we [Ww-v] could feel and experience. But I'd like to say something about more, er, more high, because, er, just as I remember there is a saying that, er, he said using computers bro- erm broadened the gap between developed and developing countries because the envi the information is very important in our, in our economics. But some de, some developed countries, mm, are, they, in this, in this field are a little behind bef from the developed countries. For they, they, they think computers make the rich countries much richer and the poor countries much poorer. </sp3>
<sp2> Oh, I see. </sp2>
<sp3> Yes. </sp3>
<sp2> Yeah, it's really, it's really a great help to these countries. So if a world really want peace, to be peaceful, I think this is really a useful method to develop these countries and there is no war maybe. ??? a more peaceful world. </sp2>
<sp1> I want to say that our country has made up, er, wonderful progress in the, er, IT, IT industry. And though the [Wth-z] gap is greater, but I think we can, er, run faster and we [Ww-v] can catch up with [Ww-v] them. And, mm, I think that, er, our government has do, has done something very important. They take up some policies that, mm, that regular, that regulate the Internet and, mm, they want to give some be benefits to the students. I think it's a good news to all of us. </sp1>
<sp2> And I do believe that the computer industry gave a lot of opportunities for people to go to work. So </sp2>
<sp4> However, I want to say some advantages of computers. Have you heard the news that, er, some days before two girls, er, who are willing to meet their net friends. Then they leave home and go to other cities. Their parents are very worried [Ww-v]. So they the alarm police [S1] and there are a lot of peoples who are in the net to help to find them. So I think net friends is a very dangerous things. </sp4>
<sp2> This is a great social problem, I do believe that. Right now in China, you know, more and more such as these tragedies are happen. </sp2>
<sp4> As far as I becau for example, er I have met two net friends. </sp4>
<sp2> Oh, yeah? You are really brave. </sp2>
<sp4> They are also students. But er, the, er, I, I, I only to, I only want to meet the person who are on the net. I want to see if they are very similar with the, er, in, in the reality and in, on net. But I found that it's lot, it's a lot of difference. So I think I'm very disappointed. </sp4>
<sp3> I remember safety is the first. </sp3>
<sp4> Yeah. </sp4>
<sp1> I agree with that. We can make friends in the Internet. </sp1>
<sp2> No, I don't believe that. </sp2>
<sp1> No? What's your opinion? </sp1>
<sp2> I, I, I don't make any Internet friends, you know. I just talk with my old classmates on the Internet. I, I don't believe this, because </sp2>
<sp1> Because I made my friends through the Internet </sp1>
<sp2> And as you said this is nonsense sometimes. What will you talk about with them? </sp2>
<sp1> Sometimes, most of, I think most of time it's nonsense, it's rubbish. But, er, I made one. And, er, she is a girl and a lot of ?? and we [Ww-v] have become good friends. </sp1>
<sp2> And you help her? </sp2>
<sp1> Yeah. And we can share happiness and overcome some difficulties. </sp1>
<sp2> Yeah, maybe this is good. Maybe sometimes you don't want talk to your close friends, you know. It is, it's too you are too close to each other. You don't want to talk to each other. Maybe find someone, er, is strange that you talk with each other and kind of relieve your sadness or distress or sometimes </sp2>
<sp1> That's another, er, situation. But my, mm, my good friend, er, er, she, er, we, we know each other bett we know well [Ww-v] of each other. </sp1>
<interlocutor> All right. I have to interrupt you, for the time is limited. That's the end of your discussion. I'd like to ask you one last question, some of you, not every each of you. Miss ***, do you think computer viruses are a big problem to computer users? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Mm, computer viruses? </sp1>
<interlocutor> It's like a kind of disease, computer diseases. Do you think they are a big problem for computer users? </interlocutor>
<sp1> Yeah, I think so. Er, first of firstly, you can see that just as Miss *** say that, er, if you, er, if, if you, er, if you computer diseases, diseases, and your computer has to, er, your computer has some, has, has, has many trouble, and mm, er, er, if, for example, you maybe have to re to repair it or mm, the [Wth-z] wor what's the worse, you should do, mm, you should do ??. That's the The secondly, that you can know that er everyone a new disease come into being, comes into being and the [Wth-z] news ?? warned people that you should be careful, or your, or your computers will will catch it and you may get, get much trouble. </sp1>
<interlocutor> OK. Thank you. Miss ***, one question for you. Have you personally benefited from using the computer in your study? </interlocutor>
<sp4> Yeah. </sp4>
<interlocutor> Can you give us an example? </interlocutor>
<sp4>Mm, because I improve my English, so I go to a site means English Corner. Mm, there has a lot of English study in the, in the net. And I found some methods to improve my oral English, er, such as er chatting in the chatroom with foreign friends. And I donate a soft means ICQ and you can meet a lot of, er, foreign friends and we chat in English. And I input my I typing English. That's all. </sp4>
<interlocutor> OK, very good. That's the end of the test. Thank you. </interlocutor>
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