<time>421_00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:41,000</time>
<s>所以我的所有的接触的内容</s>
<time>422_00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:42,800</time>
<s>我都希望他是为我的工作服务的</s>
<time>423_00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,600</time>
<s>但确实是因为这个播客去看了很多</s>
<time>424_00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,400</time>
<s>只为我的快乐服务的东西</s>
<time>425_00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,600</time>
<s>这七个女主播的关系其实我挺羡慕的</s>
<time>426_00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,800</time>
<s>因为我从小到大都是一个</s>
<time>427_00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,600</time>
<s>就是座怎么说呢也有朋友</s>
<time>428_00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:56,200</time>
<s>但是相对来说是一个</s>
<time>429_00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,200</time>
<s>非常专胜在自己的生活的人</s>
<time>430_00:12:58,200 --> 00:12:59,600</time>
<s>说周末我们上午</s>
<time>431_00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,400</time>
<s>比如说7点起床到晚上</s>
<time>432_00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:02,400</time>
<s>12点睡觉</s>
<time>433_00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:03,800</time>
<s>我是有时间表的</s>
<time>434_00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,200</time>
<s>这种自律造成我有些封闭</s>
<time>435_00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:08,800</time>
<s>我其实很很难去浪费时间</s>
<time>436_00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:09,400</time>
<s>但是</s>
<time>437_00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,600</time>
<s>友谊其实要在浪费时间里面发生的</s>
<time>438_00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,000</time>
<s>嗯我大学最好的朋友</s>
<time>439_00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:13,600</time>
<s>她说</s>
<time>440_00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,800</time>
<s>我之前段时间不太不太好意思来找你</s>
<time>441_00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:16,600</time>
<s>因为我老觉得</s>
<time>442_00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:18,400</time>
<s>我找你就是在浪費你的时间</s>
<time>443_00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:19,800</time>
<s>我找你就是在打扰你</s>
<time>444_00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:20,600</time>
<s>而这个话</s>
<time>445_00:13:21,000 --> 00:13:21,800</time>
<s>很多人都跟我说过</s>
<time>446_00:13:21,800 --> 00:13:23,000</time>
<s>你看起来是一个很忙的人</s>
<time>447_00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:24,200</time>
<s>其实为自己的自律</s>
<time>448_00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:25,600</time>
<s>算是什出了很多代价</s>
<time>449_00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,800</time>
<s>这个代价就是別人很难走进我的世界</s>
<time>450_00:13:27,800 --> 00:13:29,600</time>
<s>別人会觉得如果我要跟你说什么事情</s>
<time>451_00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:30,400</time>
<s>一定要是对你</s>
<time>452_00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,600</time>
<s>工作或者什么地方有价值的</s>
<time>453_00:13:32,600 --> 00:13:34,000</time>
<s>要不然就会觉得</s>
<time>454_00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:36,800</time>
<s>对对干你而言就是这个东西是无用的</s>
<time>455_00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,200</time>
<s>对没有价值的对</s>
<time>456_00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,400</time>
<s>但我看到这七个女孩他们一起长大</s>
<time>457_00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,800</time>
<s>叽叽喳喳做一些很无聊的事情</s>
<time>458_00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:43,800</time>
<s>她们很快乐</s>
<time>459_00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:44,400</time>
<s>就是我有</s>
<time>460_00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:46,000</time>
<s>试着把这个播客安利给很多人</s>
<time>461_00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000</time>
<s>比如说安利给我一个同事</s>
<time>462_00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,600</time>
<s>我打开的时候这个同事就说</s>
<time>463_00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:50,200</time>
<s>我听不下去</s>
<time>464_00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:51,600</time>
<s>这几个女的太无聊了</s>
<time>465_00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:53,400</time>
<s>呱叽喳喳在说什么呀嗯</s>
<time>466_00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,400</time>
<s>但对我来说</s>
<time>467_00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:56,800</time>
<s>她们的聊天对我来说其实非常的治愈</s>
<time>468_00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,600</time>
<s>因为就是那种浪费时间的美好</s>
<time>469_00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,000</time>
<s>就让我觉得非常可爱也是</s>
<time>470_00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,600</time>
<s>其实是我非常羡慕的地方</s>
<time>471_00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:05,600</time>
<s>这几个主播很多也都是在传媒圈</s>
<time>472_00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,200</time>
<s>比如说是有蓝叙经的记者等等</s>
<time>473_00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:08,600</time>
<s>但</s>
<time>474_00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:11,200</time>
<s>我也不试图在三次元当中去还原她们</s>
<time>475_00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:12,600</time>
<s>我觉得跟她们的关系</s>
<time>476_00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,000</time>
<s>就是停留在二次元就好了</s>
<time>477_00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000</time>
<s>什么叫三次元就是真实的世界当中</s>
<time>478_00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,200</time>
<s>我推荐第二个播客的话是故事FM</s>
<time>479_00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,400</time>
<s>他会去采访一些各行各业</s>
<time>480_00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,000</time>
<s>形形色色的一些普通人</s>
<time>481_00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,400</time>
<s>我最近听他们去</s>
<time>482_00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,200</time>
<s>采访的一个90多岁的朝鲜老兵</s>
<time>483_00:14:26,400 --> 00:14:28,400</time>
<s>回忆他们十几岁的时候去</s>
<time>484_00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:29,800</time>
<s>打仗的时候</s>
<time>485_00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:30,600</time>
<s>我们这个年代的人</s>
<time>486_00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:32,000</time>
<s>是股有经 历过战爭的</s>
<time>487_00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:33,200</time>
<s>从历史书里面</s>
<time>488_00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:35,000</time>
<s>嗯从电影里面看到的战爭</s>
<time>489_00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,400</time>
<s>眞正经 而过战爭的普通人的</s>
<time>490_00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,400</time>
<s>口中说出的战爭眞的会</s>
<time>491_00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,200</time>
<s>会很不一样</s>
<time>492_00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:41,800</time>
<s>比如说里面举到的有一个</s>
<time>493_00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,200</time>
<s>跟自己的发小一起去的战场</s>
<time>494_00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,000</time>
<s>一个炸弹过来了发小股了</s>
<time>495_00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:46,600</time>
<s>这也不算什么英勇牺牲啊</s>
<time>496_00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:47,600</time>
<s>或者或者什么之类的</s>
<time>497_00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,000</time>
<s>但是实际上你站在那个</s>
<time>498_00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,800</time>
<s>个体的角度的话</s>
<time>499_00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,400</time>
<s>他他会让那个人遗憾一辈子</s>
<time>500_00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:53,800</time>
<s>我们自己现在的生活圈</s>
<time>501_00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:55,200</time>
<s>其实我觉得越来越狭窄</s>
<time>502_00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:57,000</time>
<s>我的小学同学我的初中同学</s>
<time>503_00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,200</time>
<s>他们其实现在所从事的领域和工作</s>
<time>504_00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,000</time>
<s>跟我完全不一样</s>
<time>505_00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,400</time>
<s>对干他们的工作和生活</s>
<time>506_00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,400</time>
<s>的了解其实是非常非常少的</s>
<time>507_00:15:03,400 --> 00:15:05,200</time>
<s>故事FM有更多的视角</s>
<time>508_00:15:05,200 --> 00:15:07,400</time>
<s>知道大家各行各业的人的</s>
<time>509_00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:10,000</time>
<s>日常的生活是一个什么样的</s>
<time>510_00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,400</time>
<s>故事FM印象最深的是我有听一个</s>
<time>511_00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:14,600</time>
<s>男孩子未婚先孕吧</s>
<time>512_00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:15,800</time>
<s>哦对对对</s>
<time>513_00:15:15,800 --> 00:15:18,000</time>
<s>记不记得我也我也听了那一期十几岁</s>
<time>514_00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:20,400</time>
<s>的时候你让对方女孩子怀孕</s>
<time>515_00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:22,400</time>
<s>然后你还一直在打游戏</s>
<time>516_00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:23,800</time>
<s>她一个人在医院生孩子</s>
<time>517_00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000</time>
<s>这是会让我们非常愤怒的事情吗</s>
<time>518_00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:27,400</time>
<s>听完他的讲述我我</s>
<time>519_00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:28,000</time>
<s>突然意识到</s>
<time>520_00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:30,000</time>
<s>这一切都是他无意识的去发生的</s>
<time>521_00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,000</time>
<s>他完全不知道发生了什么事情</s>
<time>522_00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,600</time>
<s>他感到害怕极了他只想逃避这一切</s>
<time>523_00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,200</time>
<s>他被他爸痛打了一顿</s>
<time>524_00:15:36,200 --> 00:15:38,400</time>
<s>他爸他妈在负责整个事情</s>
<time>525_00:15:38,400 --> 00:15:40,000</time>
<s>从你凭什么这样</s>
<time>526_00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:41,600</time>
<s>你会去理解你为什么会这样</s>
<time>527_00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,600</time>
<s>并不是说你理解了你为什么会这样</s>
<time>528_00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,000</time>
<s>就一定有了解决办法</s>
<time>529_00:15:45,200 --> 00:15:46,400</time>
<s>你会更容易的去理</s>
<time>530_00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:47,800</time>
<s>解跟你不一样的人吧</s>
<time>531_00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:49,800</time>
<s>这样的人活的就会越来越宽</s>
<time>532_00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,600</time>
<s>而不是活成越来越窄的人</s>
<time>533_00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,800</time>
<s>我最近在B站上关胜了 挺多号</s>
<time>534_00:15:53,800 --> 00:15:56,200</time>
<s>有一个保安就更新自己每个月的</s>
<time>535_00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:58,400</time>
<s>保安的生活刚值了四个夜班</s>
<time>536_00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:01,000</time>
<s>然后出去买手抓饼吃之类的</s>
<time>537_00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:03,600</time>
<s>今天早上还得还得赶回去再疲看上</s>
<time>538_00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:04,400</time>
<s>授着上白班</s>
<time>539_00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,600</time>
<s>上完白班才能晚上才能回去休息</s>
<time>540_00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:07,800</time>
<s>然后连续上两天两夜吧</s>
<time>541_00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:10,000</time>
<s>太阳完全出来了</s>
<time>542_00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:11,400</time>
<s>我这个岗享正对着太阳</s>
<time>543_00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:12,600</time>
<s>还有田野上的繁荣</s>
<time>544_00:16:12,600 --> 00:16:13,800</time>
<s>是一个卡车司机</s>
<time>545_00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,200</time>
<s>每天在更新自己都吃了什么</s>
<time>546_00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:17,200</time>
<s>我小刚没有别啥本事啊</s>
<time>547_00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:18,400</time>
<s>真是我就是一个普通人</s>
<time>548_00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:19,600</time>
<s>职业是个大车司机</s>
<time>549_00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:21,200</time>
<s>我这个视频风格是美食啊</s>
<time>550_00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:23,800</time>
<s>有人说小刚你吃饭很香</s>
<time>551_00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:25,400</time>
<s>还有一个叫 旧眞瞎哗啡</s>
<time>552_00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,400</time>
<s>比之前是富士康的一个技工</s>
<time>553_00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:28,200</time>
<s>拍了非常多</s>
<time>554_00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,600</time>
<s>以深圳的富士康为中心的技工</s>
<time>555_00:16:31,000 --> 00:16:32,000</time>
<s>或者工厂女孩</s>
<time>556_00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:33,800</time>
<s>有个工厂女孩她离婚了来深圳打工</s>
<time>557_00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:35,400</time>
<s>下班了就进很多辣条去卖</s>
<time>558_00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:35,800</time>
<s>=去站 班，就进很多辣条去卖 s r</s>
<time>559_00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,600</time>
<s>=杀站眞 >这些故事都让我觉得。</s><s>.去站 r</s>
<time>560_00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,400</time>
<s>=杀站話 >普通人的生活理面，.站 r</s>
<time>561_00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:39,000</time>
<s>=去站價站 >当然充瞒，无奈跟沮丧 r</s>
<time>562_00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:40,000</time>
<s>当然充满了无奈跟沮丧</s>
<time>563_00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,800</time>
<s>但是也有不服输很美好的地方</s>
<time>564_00:16:42,800 --> 00:16:44,200</time>
<s>而那个巴野上的豁荣</s>
<time>565_00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:46,000</time>
<s>就他结束了一天的卡车</s>
<time>566_00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,200</time>
<s>然后去吃一个10块钱的麻辣烫</s>
<time>567_00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:49,600</time>
<s>吃那个面皮吃的特別香</s>
<time>568_00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:51,600</time>
<s>你就会觉得心情很美好啊</s>
<time>569_00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,200</time>
<s>觉得这就是这些</s>
<time>570_00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:55,200</time>
<s>故事存在的意义吗</s>
<time>571_00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:57,000</time>
<s>陌生人是能帮到陌生人的</s>
<time>572_00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:59,600</time>
<s>虽然有残酷的有什么的留在心底的</s>
<time>573_00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:01,600</time>
<s>反而是更强的善意</s>
<time>574_00:17:02,600 --> 00:17:03,000</time>
<s>对嗯</s>
<time>575_00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,600</time>
<s>我要推荐的第二个播客叫做展开讲讲</s>
<time>576_00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:07,800</time>
<s>他是一个内容推荐播客</s>
<time>577_00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:11,000</time>
<s>我们在推荐一个推荐其他内容的播客</s>
<time>578_00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,400</time>
<s>他的三个主讲人是王天挺康堤跟洞姐</s>
<time>579_00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,000</time>
<s>洞姐应该是影视公司从业者</s>
<time>580_00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:18,000</time>
<s>对干影视</s>
<time>581_00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:19,000</time>
<s>行业会比较熟悉</s>
<time>582_00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:20,800</time>
<s>康堤是在GQ做记者</s>
<time>583_00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,400</time>
<s>王老师之前有写过很出圈的几篇特稿</s>
<time>584_00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:26,000</time>
<s>之前应该是GQ的记者</s>
<time>585_00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,800</time>
<s>我这个人其实挺不敏感的</s>
<time>586_00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:31,000</time>
<s>我是一个就是流程和效率管控型的人</s>
<time>587_00:17:31,000 --> 00:17:33,000</time>
<s>但因为我在一家内容公司</s>
<time>588_00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:34,400</time>
<s>所以我们公司有大量的内容</s>
<time>589_00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,200</time>
<s>制作的小伙伴</s>
<time>590_00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,000</time>
<s>他们是非常非常敏感的一群人</s>
<time>591_00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,600</time>
<s>他们对干生活当中的美</s>
<time>592_00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:40,800</time>
<s>对于別人的情绪</s>
<time>593_00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,800</time>
<s>是非常非常敏感的</s>
<time>594_00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,800</time>
<s>这种敏感性让我特別羡慕</s>
<time>595_00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:47,000</time>
<s>就他们很容易在对干内容的审美上</s>
<time>596_00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,000</time>
<s>达成共识</s>
<time>597_00:17:48,200 --> 00:17:50,800</time>
<s>但我好像不能第一时间理解到这个共</s>
<time>598_00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,000</time>
<s>识展开讲讲的这几个人跟我很佩服</s>
<time>599_00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,000</time>
<s>很羡慕的内容制作同事</s>
<time>600_00:17:55,200 --> 00:17:56,400</time>
<s>是很接近的人格</s>
<time>601_00:17:56,400 --> 00:17:59,400</time>
<s>他们也都是对生活当中的美和情绪很</s>
<time>602_00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:01,000</time>
<s>敏銳的这么几个人</s>
<time>603_00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,200</time>
<s>我现在生活中很多的内容消费</s>
<time>604_00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:05,000</time>
<s>都是来自干他们的推荐</s>
<time>605_00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:07,600</time>
<s>上次我带你看那个克拉克森农场吗</s>
<time>606_00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:09,800</time>
<s>嗯也是他们推荐给我的</s>
<time>607_00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,000</time>
<s>就是讲在英国应该是都个疤视制作人就</s>
<time>608_00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,600</time>
<s>述要怪你一辈子都在开赛车</s>
<time>609_00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,600</time>
<s>去承包农场</s>
<time>610_00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,000</time>
<s>发生了真还列的很好玩的事情</s>
<time>611_00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:18,000</time>
<s>我现在在豆瓣上标记的</s>
<time>612_00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:19,200</time>
<s>想看看过什么的</s>
<time>613_00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:21,200</time>
<s>跟他们的推荐列表是完全重合的</s>
<time>614_00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:22,600</time>
<s>包括田野上的繁荣</s>
<time>615_00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:24,400</time>
<s>就刚才说的吃播的卡车司机</s>
<time>616_00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:26,400</time>
<s>也是王老师在这个节目里面去推荐的</s>
<time>617_00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:27,800</time>
<s>我印象最深的是他们有去</s>
<time>618_00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:29,800</time>
<s>做2020年的年度内容大赏</s>
<time>619_00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,800</time>
<s>比如说2020最具公共价值内容是</s>
<time>620_00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:33,600</time>
<s>那篇特稿</s>
<time>621_00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:35,800</time>
<s>外卖骑手困在系统里</s>
<time>622_00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:37,200</time>
<s>2020的年度内容</s>
<time>623_00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,200</time>
<s>他们邀请的萝贝贝</s>
<time>624_00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:39,600</time>
<s>是颁给了杨生的脫口秀</s>
<time>625_00:18:39,600 --> 00:18:41,000</time>
<s>先不管她引发的爭议啊</s>
<time>626_00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,000</time>
<s>她确实是代表的是2020的一种</s>
<time>627_00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:44,200</time>
<s>社会情绪的趋势</s>
<time>628_00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:46,600</time>
<s>他们的很多推荐和颁奖都很有意思</s>
<time>629_00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,200</time>
<s>他不仅仅是狭义上的一个内容产品</s>
<time>630_00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:50,600</time>
<s>一个综艺一个剧</s>
<time>631_00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:51,400</time>
<s>一个电影</s>
<time>632_00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:52,400</time>
<s>他们有推荐</s>
<time>633_00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:53,800</time>
<s>对抚慰人心的内容</s>
<time>634_00:18:53,800 --> 00:18:55,600</time>
<s>是杨超越的毕业发言</s>
<time>635_00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,400</time>
<s>和河正宇的黑客聊天</s>
<time>636_00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,600</time>
<s>河正宇是韩国的一个演员</s>
<time>637_00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:00,400</time>
<s>他被敲饰了</s>
<time>638_00:19:00,400 --> 00:19:02,600</time>
<s>但他去应对敲比的那套语言 一</s>
<time>639_00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:03,400</time>
<s>。</s><s>特別的可爱 1</s>
<time>640_00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,000</time>
<s>杨超越是创造营出来的选秀选手</s>
<time>641_00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,000</time>
<s>农村出来的长得非常的好看</s>
<time>642_00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,200</time>
<s>所以拥有了很多直男粉丝</s>
<time>643_00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,400</time>
<s>她的业务能力可以算是“一塌糊涂”</s>
<time>644_00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,400</time>
<s>但是就是就是人气非常高</s>
<time>645_00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:14,200</time>
<s>她们那个限定困解散的时候</s>
<time>646_00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:16,200</time>
<s>、悉哭着说自己的业务能力不行,再D</s>
<time>647_00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:18,600</time>
<s>着笑着就哭了 __就是他非常的眞实9</s>
<time>648_00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:20,600</time>
<s>很接近一个在努力的废柴</s>
<time>649_00:19:21,200 --> 00:19:22,800</time>
<s>所以他就能安慰到很多人</s>
<time>650_00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:24,600</time>
<s>我第三个要推荐的播客</s>
<time>651_00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:25,800</time>
<s>是沈奕斐的播客</s>
<time>652_00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:29,000</time>
<s>沈奕斐是复旦大学社会学的一个教授</s>
<time>653_00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:30,000</time>
<s>她老公呢</s>
<time>654_00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:31,400</time>
<s>以前是律师现在是法官</s>
<time>655_00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:33,000</time>
<s>两个人是40多岁</s>
<time>656_00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:34,400</time>
<s>有时候也会拉他们的小孩进来</s>
<time>657_00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:35,000</time>
<s>一个上初中</s>
<time>658_00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,400</time>
<s>一个上高中在一起聊天就会觉得哦</s>
<time>659_00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,000</time>
<s>原来40多岁的夫妻之间</s>
<time>660_00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:40,200</time>
<s>就是结婚20年吧</s>
<time>661_00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:41,400</time>
<s>在一起</s>
<time>662_00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,200</time>
<s>还能够有这么深度的沟通</s>
<time>663_00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:45,400</time>
<s>我看到他们两个人</s>
<time>664_00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:47,400</time>
<s>有这样的沟通我挺美慕的</s>
<time>665_00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:48,200</time>
<s>沈老师跟商老师</s>
<time>666_00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,800</time>
<s>因为是我工作上的合作伙伴</s>
<time>667_00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:52,600</time>
<s>他对我最大的价值到未必是工作上的</s>
<time>668_00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:53,800</time>
<s>他对我最大的价值是</s>
<time>669_00:19:53,800 --> 00:19:56,000</time>
<s>45岁的两个人提供了一个非常</s>
<time>670_00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:57,600</time>
<s>好的婚姻的样本</s>
<time>671_00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:59,400</time>
<s>我对于结婚20年的两个人</s>
<time>672_00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,600</time>
<s>应该如何相处上是缺乏样本的</s>
<time>673_00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:02,800</time>
<s>沈老师对我的影响</s>
<time>674_00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:05,000</time>
<s>不光是工作上一起创造价值</s>
<time>675_00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:06,800</time>
<s>而是对干我的私人生活有</s>
<time>676_00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:07,800</time>
<s>7非常大的改变</s>
<time>677_00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:09,800</time>
<s>让我对亲密关系上有了很多认知</s>
<time>678_00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:10,800</time>
<s>上新的思考</s>
<time>679_00:20:10,800 --> 00:20:12,800</time>
<s>然后也会分享给eric自己做的东西</s>
<time>680_00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,000</time>
<s>首先肯定要先帮到自己</s>
<time>681_00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:15,800</time>
<s>能帮到自己的就能帮到更多人吗</s>
<time>682_00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:16,600</time>
<s>很多人</s>
<time>683_00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:18,800</time>
<s>问沈老师说哎</s>
<time>684_00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,400</time>
<s>为什么就是我在工作中沒有自我</s>
<time>685_00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:22,200</time>
<s>吧怎么办</s>
<time>686_00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:23,800</time>
<s>然后沈老师就说啊</s>
<time>687_00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:26,000</time>
<s>就是只有你花线的时候你才会有自我</s>
<time>688_00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,600</time>
<s>你掙线的时候你就得夹着尾巴做人</s>
<time>689_00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:29,600</time>
<s>觉得老板的需求是什么</s>
<time>690_00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:30,600</time>
<s>噁客戸的需求是什么</s>
<time>691_00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:31,600</time>
<s>但是商老师就</s>
<time>692_00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:33,000</time>
<s>又举了一个他朋友的例子</s>
<time>693_00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:34,600</time>
<s>在美国做程序员</s>
<time>694_00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:36,600</time>
<s>有机会是可以升职到一个</s>
<time>695_00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:37,800</time>
<s>一个管理层的</s>
<time>696_00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,800</time>
<s>他就选择不升职还是做现在手头的工作</s>
<time>697_00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:42,800</time>
<s>他觉得他做了他现在手头的工作</s>
<time>698_00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:45,000</time>
<s>他的能力是高干这个岗位的要求的</s>
<time>699_00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:46,000</time>
<s>当你的能力</s>
<time>700_00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:48,600</time>
<s>高干你的工作岗位的要求的时候</s>
<time>701_00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:50,000</time>
<s>你就沒有沒有那么多售虑了</s>
<time>702_00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,600</time>
<s>嗯这点突然就觉得</s>
<time>703_00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:53,400</time>
<s>在工作中那些不不焦虚的人</s>
<time>704_00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:54,400</time>
<s>大多数是什么样的</s>
<time>705_00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,400</time>
<s>嗯其实都是</s>
<time>706_00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:57,400</time>
<s>他的能力是高干那个岗位要求的</s>
<time>707_00:20:57,400 --> 00:20:59,600</time>
<s>嗯听他们就是聊的这些事情的话</s>
<time>708_00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,200</time>
<s>还觉得还挺有</s>
<time>709_00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,600</time>
<s>因为他们比我们年长</s>
<time>710_00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,800</time>
<s>所以他他们相当于是</s>
<time>711_00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:03,800</time>
<s>看了我们</s>
<time>712_00:21:03,800 --> 00:21:05,800</time>
<s>预判了一下我们十年后会碰到的问</s>
<time>713_00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:07,400</time>
<s>题也好会思考的问题也好</s>
<time>714_00:21:07,400 --> 00:21:08,600</time>
<s>互联网上ugc的内容</s>
<time>715_00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:09,800</time>
<s>大部分都是我们同龄人</s>
<time>716_00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,800</time>
<s>甚至是比我们年轻很多的人去做的</s>
<time>717_00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,200</time>
<s>因为这批人是对互联网最</s>
<time>718_00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,000</time>
<s>熟悉的一批人</s>
<time>719_00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,000</time>
<s>而70后的声音其实蛮少的</s>
<time>720_00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:18,200</time>
<s>所以我觉得有两个40多岁的中年人</s>
<time>721_00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,600</time>
<s>非常乐意在互联网上做这样的分享</s>
<time>722_00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:21,800</time>
<s>对人会座有启发的</s>
<time>723_00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,200</time>
<s>那你刚才这么一说还眞的觉得中年人</s>
<time>724_00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:25,600</time>
<s>70后在互联网上的声</s>
<time>725_00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,400</time>
<s>音其实是</s>
<time>726_00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,000</time>
<s>特別少要不然就是</s>
<time>727_00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,400</time>
<s>他们已经沉浸到日常的生活当中去</s>
<time>728_00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,400</time>
<s>要不然就是他们上有老下有小</s>
<time>729_00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,800</time>
<s>或者是他们已经获得了比较大的成功</s>
<time>730_00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,400</time>
<s>就财务自由呢他们其实沒有</s>
<time>731_00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,600</time>
<s>更没有什么动力</s>
<time>732_00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,400</time>
<s>来到互联网上去去做分享</s>
<time>733_00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,200</time>
<s>因为要特別珍惜70后还</s>
<time>734_00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,800</time>
<s>会非常活跃的在互联网上分享的人</s>
<time>735_00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,400</time>
<s>是的那下一个就到我的推荐了</s>
<time>736_00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:50,400</time>
<s>嗯我的推荐是疯投圈</s>
<time>737_00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:53,000</time>
<s>疯投圈其实是eric带我听的</s>
<time>738_00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:54,400</time>
<s>算是前几个播客吧</s>
<time>739_00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:57,600</time>
<s>每一期播客我都有做非常长的笔记</s>
<time>740_00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,600</time>
<s>黄临跟 Rio 他们価都是投资人</s>
<time>741_00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,000</time>
<s>会有一些更加</s>
<time>742_00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:04,000</time>
<s>偏宏观和框架型的对一件事情的理解</s>
<time>743_00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:05,600</time>
<s>比如说他聊一一个企业</s>
<time>744_00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,200</time>
<s>可能一上来就会开始从这个行业聊起</s>
<time>745_00:22:08,200 --> 00:22:09,200</time>
<s>这个行业的发展</s>
<time>746_00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:11,200</time>
<s>这个行业目前各个品牌的市占率</s>
<time>747_00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:12,000</time>
<s>这个品牌</s>
<time>748_00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:15,000</time>
<s>是因为哪一块创新在哪一块会有机会</s>
<time>749_00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:16,400</time>
<s>包括他们去分析这个内容</s>
<time>750_00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:17,000</time>
<s>行业</s>
<time>751_00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:19,400</time>
<s>有一些我可能未必能这么快理解到的</s>
<time>752_00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,200</time>
<s>行业本质就是给聊出来</s>
<time>753_00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,000</time>
<s>给了我一个思考的抓手</s>
<time>754_00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:24,000</time>
<s>当然因为他们是投资人嘛</s>
<time>755_00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,200</time>
<s>投资人最时天的就是只说一些思考</s>
<time>756_00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,000</time>
<s>但是不负责执行对吧</s>
<time>757_00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,200</time>
<s>他们对干那种行业的很多思考</s>
<time>758_00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,000</time>
<s>我有非常老实的去做执行去做尝试</s>
<time>759_00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,600</time>
<s>当然不一定每一个都是成功的</s>
<time>760_00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,800</time>
<s>但是确实有很多很受益的部分</s>
<time>761_00:22:35,800 --> 00:22:38,000</time>
<s>我第一次有兴趣去了解b站</s>
<time>762_00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,200</time>
<s>也是听到他们把b站快手</s>
<time>763_00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:41,400</time>
<s>抖音放在一起去聊</s>
<time>764_00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,000</time>
<s>说这种系统性的</s>
<time>765_00:22:43,000 --> 00:22:43,600</time>
<s>知识型的内容</s>
<time>766_00:22:43,600 --> 00:22:45,200</time>
<s>其实是非常适合b站的</s>
<time>767_00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:47,800</time>
<s>所以我才会开始在b站上去做一些</s>
<time>768_00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:48,800</time>
<s>业务上的尝试</s>
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<s>包括他们对b站的很多预测</s>
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<s>在三年前</s>
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<s>现在来看都是非常准确的</s>
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<s>我觉得Rio跟黄海某种意义上</s>
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<s>特別像我的老师</s>
<time>774_00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:58,000</time>
<s>他们给我一些建议</s>
<time>775_00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,200</time>
<s>然后我按照他们的建议去做一些执行</s>
<time>776_00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:01,000</time>
<s>然后做一些纠错</s>
<time>777_00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,400</time>
<s>做一些判断做一些优化</s>
<time>778_00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:03,600</time>
<s>很多人都在批评他们</s>
<time>779_00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:05,600</time>
<s>说他们什么说的并不专业啊</s>
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<s>呃怎么这这点东西拿出来卖弄</s>
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<s>那我觉得这是所有的知识分享者</s>
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<s>都会面临的责难</s>
<time>783_00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:12,400</time>
<s>考虑到你的受众</s>
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<s>其实可能有像我这样的</s>
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<s>就是对投资啊</s>
<time>786_00:23:14,400 --> 00:23:15,800</time>
<s>对行业可能比较小白的人</s>
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<s>那</s>
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<s>有很多东西他们其实他们是知道的</s>
<time>789_00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,800</time>
<s>能非常好的就是去做这种</s>
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<s>低门槛的拆解很浅显</s>
<time>791_00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,200</time>
<s>对他们他们是眞</s>
<time>792_00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:24,600</time>
<s>他们価经常会一问一答</s>
<time>793_00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,400</time>
<s>对他们是眞正能做到深入腾出的</s>
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<s>是的我觉得很多</s>
<time>795_00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,000</time>
<s>你跟很多人投资人聊天你就很累</s>
<time>796_00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:30,800</time>
<s>因为他讲的都是上来</s>
<time>797_00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:31,800</time>
<s>都是很专业的术语</s>
<time>798_00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:33,800</time>
<s>对对对对就是我说的一些很</s>
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<s>是那种很虛的一些话对</s>
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<s>但Rio跟黄临举的很多例子都是</s>
<time>801_00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:40,400</time>
<s>身边会会发生的例子</s>
<time>802_00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,800</time>
<s>他有有一次讲一个观点非常打动我</s>
<time>803_00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,600</time>
<s>呃像消費品这种事情</s>
<time>804_00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,200</time>
<s>其实是非常容易出现国民级別的品牌</s>
<time>805_00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,200</time>
<s>因为我跟我妈都穿nike</s>
<time>806_00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,600</time>
<s>我们都认为星巴克是好东西</s>
<time>807_00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:51,800</time>
<s>如果说到内容消费</s>
<time>808_00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,800</time>
<s>我跟我妈消费的内容</s>
<time>809_00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:53,800</time>
<s>打开我们的公众号</s>
<time>810_00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,400</time>
<s>打开我们的视频网站是完全不一样的</s>
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<s>所以内容</s>
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<s>他本身是一个切片极小的垂类的东西</s>
<time>813_00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:02,400</time>
<s>你只能服务特定的用戸</s>
<time>814_00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,000</time>
<s>一篇公众号10万加就是</s>
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<s>就是非常火了</s>
<time>816_00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:08,000</time>
<s>但是你像十万人在中国的网民里面</s>
<time>817_00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,200</time>
<s>那就是对</s>
<time>818_00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:10,800</time>
<s>就是百万分之一对我的业务</s>
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<s>业务的实践当中</s>
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<s>我有非</s>
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<s>我有一个清晰的认识就是内容他的</s>
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<s>本质是筛选器</s>
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<s>内容的本质就是去筛击到一批</s>
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<s>有相同认知的用戸</s>
<time>825_00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:21,600</time>
<s>再接着去想后面的业务逻辑</s>
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<s>当你不把内容看成</s>
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<s>是一个国民级別的产品</s>
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<s>而是把它看成一个用戸筛进器的时候</s>
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<s>你的业务实操上的很多判断</s>
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<s>都会发生变化</s>
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<s>因为播客这个事情本身比较小众吗</s>
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<s>现在看到这里的你</s>
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<s>应该也是非常小众的一个人</s>
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<s>大部分人对播客这个</s>
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<s>形态可能其实没什么兴趣</s>
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<s>但还是希望播客这种</s>
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<s>内容形态的价值被更多人知道吧</s>
