<time>433_00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,920</time>
<s>因为你用生命</s>
<time>434_00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:00,000</time>
<s>用你的脸面</s>
<time>435_00:18:00,360 --> 00:18:03,240</time>
<s>用你的尊严在掏心窝子演戏</s>
<time>436_00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:04,680</time>
<s>谁都得尊重你</s>
<time>437_00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,200</time>
<s>你演得不好我不能够</s>
<time>438_00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:09,000</time>
<s>发出什么声响来或者是</s>
<time>439_00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,160</time>
<s>这就是表演艺术</s>
<time>440_00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,960</time>
<s>他是用生命在表演的</s>
<time>441_00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,120</time>
<s>但是他可能是不对的</s>
<time>442_00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080</time>
<s>如果说他要是成器的</s>
<time>443_00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,240</time>
<s>他一定具备这点投入专注</s>
<time>444_00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,040</time>
<s>然后自省</s>
<time>445_00:18:24,120 --> 00:18:25,920</time>
<s>会懂的所以说刚才你说悟</s>
<time>446_00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:28,080</time>
<s>悟什么百业是吧</s>
<time>447_00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,320</time>
<s>这是指同音两个字</s>
<time>448_00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:32,760</time>
<s>一个是任务的务</s>
<time>449_00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:33,840</time>
<s>你做那个事</s>
<time>450_00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,360</time>
<s>一个是竖心旁感悟的悟</s>
<time>451_00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:37,440</time>
<s>你又要做那件事</s>
<time>452_00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,680</time>
<s>你要悟清楚那件事情的精髓</s>
<time>453_00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:42,120</time>
<s>我们话题说到这儿了</s>
<time>454_00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:43,920</time>
<s>再往下加</s>
<time>455_00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:45,720</time>
<s>人生的道理</s>
<time>456_00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,160</time>
<s>就是你悟</s>
<time>457_00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:48,600</time>
<s>感悟百业也好</s>
<time>458_00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,040</time>
<s>从事百业之后</s>
<time>459_00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,280</time>
<s>要舍自特</s>
<time>460_00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,960</time>
<s>不要觉得只自己对</s>
<time>461_00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:00,840</time>
<s>你当然可以有自信</s>
<time>462_00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:03,360</time>
<s>在表达的时候你就真诚地表达</s>
<time>463_00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:04,440</time>
<s>错对没关系</s>
<time>464_00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:06,600</time>
<s>就是你真诚的时候</s>
<time>465_00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,760</time>
<s>人家也会觉得你说得不对</s>
<time>466_00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:10,560</time>
<s>但是他是真的</s>
<time>467_00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:12,000</time>
<s>这是可以交的</s>
<time>468_00:19:12,360 --> 00:19:13,440</time>
<s>这是可以交往的人</s>
<time>469_00:19:14,520 --> 00:19:16,680</time>
<s>老是藏着掖着的（人）</s>
<time>470_00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:17,760</time>
<s>那没一句真的</s>
<time>471_00:19:18,120 --> 00:19:18,480</time>
<s>不实诚</s>
<time>472_00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,000</time>
<s>对他好像也没错过</s>
<time>473_00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:22,800</time>
<s>但是好像不能够交往</s>
<time>474_00:19:23,160 --> 00:19:23,520</time>
<s>这人不好交</s>
<time>475_00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,960</time>
<s>不好交往这个</s>
<time>476_00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:26,400</time>
<s>所以说就不要自特</s>
<time>477_00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,000</time>
<s>谁也别觉得自己了不起</s>
<time>478_00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:33,240</time>
<s>就是天外有天的那种态度要有</s>
<time>479_00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,040</time>
<s>但是你从事的时候</s>
<time>480_00:19:35,400 --> 00:19:36,840</time>
<s>认认真真的</s>
<time>481_00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:38,280</time>
<s>有半斤就是半斤</s>
<time>482_00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:39,720</time>
<s>有八两就是八两</s>
<time>483_00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:41,520</time>
<s>你比如说前两天的手机上</s>
<time>484_00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:42,960</time>
<s>还有那个词</s>
<time>485_00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,760</time>
<s>说唐明皇时期</s>
<time>486_00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:47,640</time>
<s>关于环境保护有哪些举措</s>
<time>487_00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:49,800</time>
<s>那个下的什么诏书</s>
<time>488_00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,120</time>
<s>那被任聘的那个人就说我不知道</s>
<time>489_00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:55,200</time>
<s>他就被任聘了</s>
<time>490_00:19:55,560 --> 00:19:58,080</time>
<s>好些人编的人就都不被任聘</s>
<time>491_00:19:58,440 --> 00:19:59,520</time>
<s>他就说你得说老实话</s>
<time>492_00:19:59,880 --> 00:20:02,400</time>
<s>表演这行是不是要很老实一种事</s>
<time>493_00:20:03,120 --> 00:20:03,840</time>
<s>你不老实</s>
<time>494_00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,360</time>
<s>在台上炫技</s>
<time>495_00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:08,520</time>
<s>他说得特别对演员要真诚</s>
<time>496_00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:10,680</time>
<s>不管你成多大腕儿了</s>
<time>497_00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:12,840</time>
<s>真诚这是最可贵的</s>
<time>498_00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,360</time>
<s>刚刚去世的谢延宁阿姨</s>
<time>499_00:20:16,800 --> 00:20:17,160</time>
<s>好</s>
<time>500_00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:21,480</time>
<s>她比（蓝）天野老师前后一块儿去世的</s>
<time>501_00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:23,640</time>
<s>但是谢延宁阿姨人家都不认识</s>
<time>502_00:20:24,360 --> 00:20:25,440</time>
<s>但是这个演员</s>
<time>503_00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:27,600</time>
<s>作为我们认识她的这些</s>
<time>504_00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,760</time>
<s>我们这个年纪认识的这个演员</s>
<time>505_00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,640</time>
<s>我就是蹦出这个词来</s>
<time>506_00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:34,080</time>
<s>这是一个非常诚实</s>
<time>507_00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,960</time>
<s>而老实的一个演员</s>
<time>508_00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,200</time>
<s>她不温不火绝对都对的</s>
<time>509_00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:42,000</time>
<s>曹禺先生不容易</s>
<time>510_00:20:42,360 --> 00:20:44,160</time>
<s>没有任何人评论说</s>
<time>511_00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,680</time>
<s>曹禺先生说谁演我的戏演得好</s>
<time>512_00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:47,760</time>
<s>没有技术</s>
<time>513_00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:48,480</time>
<s>只有谢延宁</s>
<time>514_00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,720</time>
<s>曹禺说你演的繁漪</s>
<time>515_00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,160</time>
<s>是我心目中的繁漪</s>
<time>516_00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,320</time>
<s>你看看太棒了</s>
<time>517_00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:56,760</time>
<s>但是不哼不哈的</s>
<time>518_00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:01,080</time>
<s>不争不抢不占的一个一辈子的</s>
<time>519_00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,320</time>
<s>她自己长得条件不是特别出众</s>
<time>520_00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,120</time>
<s>个头不高</s>
<time>521_00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,200</time>
<s>脸是方脸</s>
<time>522_00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,000</time>
<s>但是眼睛很有灵气</s>
<time>523_00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:10,080</time>
<s>很漂亮的眼睛</s>
<time>524_00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:12,600</time>
<s>可以演朱琳阿姨的B组</s>
<time>525_00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:13,680</time>
<s>老演B组</s>
<time>526_00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,000</time>
<s>然后她演的一些角色也是称道的</s>
<time>527_00:21:18,360 --> 00:21:19,440</time>
<s>你演祥林嫂谁能演过她</s>
<time>528_00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:24,480</time>
<s>而且她又是大家</s>
<time>529_00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,280</time>
<s>她的公公</s>
<time>530_00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:28,800</time>
<s>她们家那个</s>
<time>531_00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:30,240</time>
<s>她的丈夫李畅</s>
<time>532_00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:30,960</time>
<s>李畅是谁</s>
<time>533_00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:32,040</time>
<s>李鸿章的后裔</s>
<time>534_00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:32,760</time>
<s>李鸿章的孙子</s>
<time>535_00:21:33,120 --> 00:21:33,840</time>
<s>她是孙媳妇</s>
<time>536_00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:36,720</time>
<s>她在这个大家族里面长起来的</s>
<time>537_00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:37,440</time>
<s>她有学识</s>
<time>538_00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:38,880</time>
<s>又读过书的女人</s>
<time>539_00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:40,680</time>
<s>但是她真的是</s>
<time>540_00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,200</time>
<s>我也觉得她的老实来源于</s>
<time>541_00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,720</time>
<s>她觉得自己长相</s>
<time>542_00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:47,520</time>
<s>什么个头或者什么</s>
<time>543_00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,680</time>
<s>跟朱琳阿姨也没比</s>
<time>544_00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,200</time>
<s>跟狄辛阿姨也没法比</s>
<time>545_00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:53,640</time>
<s>跟剧院的这个</s>
<time>546_00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,440</time>
<s>那舒绣文大演员来的</s>
<time>547_00:21:55,800 --> 00:21:56,160</time>
<s>她怎么能比</s>
<time>548_00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,400</time>
<s>人家就是找到自己在剧院的位置</s>
<time>549_00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,360</time>
<s>但给一点光就是一片灿烂的</s>
<time>550_00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,880</time>
<s>这个相貌到现在还很重要吗</s>
<time>551_00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,040</time>
<s>因为您刚才说到这个气质</s>
<time>552_00:22:08,400 --> 00:22:10,200</time>
<s>比如说我看好多外国演员</s>
<time>553_00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:11,280</time>
<s>我有时候看那个戏</s>
<time>554_00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:12,720</time>
<s>我觉得长得怎么</s>
<time>555_00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:14,160</time>
<s>那么一个千奇百怪</s>
<time>556_00:22:14,520 --> 00:22:15,240</time>
<s>一个是气质</s>
<time>557_00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,400</time>
<s>但咱们这儿好像还是</s>
<time>558_00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:18,840</time>
<s>所以说我们还是</s>
<time>559_00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:19,560</time>
<s>还有一个假定性</s>
<time>560_00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,720</time>
<s>我们初级阶段的</s>
<time>561_00:22:22,080 --> 00:22:23,520</time>
<s>我们刚刚进入商业化的一个状态</s>
<time>562_00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:25,320</time>
<s>您刚开始也被我们</s>
<time>563_00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,760</time>
<s>好像误当成偶像了</s>
<time>564_00:22:27,120 --> 00:22:28,920</time>
<s>因为您相貌也很好当初</s>
<time>565_00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:29,640</time>
<s>就是</s>
<time>566_00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,440</time>
<s>我的可贵之处我没有在乎过</s>
<time>567_00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:33,240</time>
<s>你没有在意</s>
<time>568_00:22:33,600 --> 00:22:35,040</time>
<s>我真的不觉得怎么样</s>
<time>569_00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:36,840</time>
<s>他气质也是特别好</s>
<time>570_00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:37,920</time>
<s>就是在于他的</s>
<time>571_00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:39,360</time>
<s>儒雅和大气</s>
<time>572_00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,880</time>
<s>我觉得有家学渊源的成分</s>
<time>573_00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:44,400</time>
<s>这个美国有一个大导演</s>
<time>574_00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:45,480</time>
<s>叫赫斯顿</s>
<time>575_00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:46,560</time>
<s>我们拍《哗变》的时候</s>
<time>576_00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:47,280</time>
<s>他是导演的</s>
<time>577_00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:48,720</time>
<s>他是影学院的院长</s>
<time>578_00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,680</time>
<s>这个奥斯卡颁奖就是他那儿颁的</s>
<time>579_00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:55,560</time>
<s>水平非常高</s>
<time>580_00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,800</time>
<s>我们后来跟他有一个座谈</s>
<time>581_00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:00,240</time>
<s>就给提了很多问题</s>
<time>582_00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:01,680</time>
<s>其中有一个问题就是说</s>
<time>583_00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:04,560</time>
<s>你也看了一些中国的戏了</s>
<time>584_00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:11,040</time>
<s>说您觉得中国男演员欠缺什么</s>
<time>585_00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:16,080</time>
<s>因为我们《哗变》都是男演员</s>
<time>586_00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,600</time>
<s>问赫斯顿的是吧</s>
<time>587_00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,040</time>
<s>赫斯顿</s>
<time>588_00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,920</time>
<s>赫斯顿想了一下</s>
<time>589_00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:24,720</time>
<s>他说了很长一段话</s>
<time>590_00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:26,160</time>
<s>英若诚给翻译</s>
<time>591_00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:28,680</time>
<s>英若诚说他这个话还不太好翻译</s>
<time>592_00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,280</time>
<s>他说姑且就叫书卷气</s>
<time>593_00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:37,680</time>
<s>我觉得说得太对了</s>
<time>594_00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:41,640</time>
<s>这还是个文脉上的事</s>
<time>595_00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,520</time>
<s>对就演员他的修养</s>
<time>596_00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:47,760</time>
<s>这个修养就太全面了</s>
<time>597_00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,520</time>
<s>有时候跟学生说也是说</s>
<time>598_00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:54,960</time>
<s>你演这个演那个</s>
<time>599_00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:56,400</time>
<s>包括树形什么的</s>
<time>600_00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:57,840</time>
<s>老找那个外形</s>
<time>601_00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:58,560</time>
<s>我说那你们给我</s>
<time>602_00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:00,360</time>
<s>演一个儒雅我看看</s>
<time>603_00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,880</time>
<s>这儒雅怎么办</s>
<time>604_00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,040</time>
<s>儒雅那得我濮哥</s>
<time>605_00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,480</time>
<s>腹有书香气自华</s>
<time>606_00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,440</time>
<s>他样貌常常是灵魂的样子</s>
<time>607_00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,320</time>
<s>你必须要铸炼自己的灵魂</s>
<time>608_00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:15,120</time>
<s>这个还真是</s>
<time>609_00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:16,920</time>
<s>您就说到这个灵魂深处</s>
<time>610_00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,440</time>
<s>包括您刚才讲这个谢阿姨</s>
<time>611_00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:21,240</time>
<s>这个能够说</s>
<time>612_00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:22,680</time>
<s>其实干这行的</s>
<time>613_00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:24,120</time>
<s>对于这个名</s>
<time>614_00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:27,000</time>
<s>我记得我听这个何冰</s>
<time>615_00:24:27,360 --> 00:24:28,440</time>
<s>还讲这个濮哥</s>
<time>616_00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,880</time>
<s>何冰就觉得就是说</s>
<time>617_00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:31,680</time>
<s>濮哥当院长的时候</s>
<time>618_00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,920</time>
<s>说他也是如日中天的大明星了</s>
<time>619_00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,440</time>
<s>但是一当这院长</s>
<time>620_00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:39,960</time>
<s>就是怎么说呢</s>
<time>621_00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:41,760</time>
<s>很多就要做牺牲</s>
<time>622_00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,640</time>
<s>是不是在外头和里头</s>
<time>623_00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:47,520</time>
<s>你有过这个得失吗</s>
<time>624_00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:48,240</time>
<s>考虑吗</s>
<time>625_00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,400</time>
<s>一开始有</s>
<time>626_00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,200</time>
<s>后来慢慢慢慢就觉得</s>
<time>627_00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,600</time>
<s>这是我俗话叫命</s>
<time>628_00:24:58,320 --> 00:24:59,760</time>
<s>我就只能这么样了</s>
<time>629_00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:01,920</time>
<s>这么做是对的</s>
<time>630_00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,360</time>
<s>或者是只能这么做</s>
<time>631_00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,400</time>
<s>要完全去想那个我也做不好</s>
<time>632_00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,840</time>
<s>我确实觉得我</s>
<time>633_00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:13,080</time>
<s>你细数我拍的东西（影视）</s>
<time>634_00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:14,520</time>
<s>也没有怎么那么好</s>
<time>635_00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,840</time>
<s>而且舞台是能够做主的一个地方</s>
<time>636_00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,360</time>
<s>那个地方演员做不了什么主的</s>
<time>637_00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:23,880</time>
<s>所以说我就拉倒吧</s>
<time>638_00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,120</time>
<s>另外因为我们是提前一年做计划</s>
<time>639_00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,280</time>
<s>电影电视的那种活儿</s>
<time>640_00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,800</time>
<s>都是头一个月找你就不错了</s>
<time>641_00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,960</time>
<s>全都没时间了</s>
<time>642_00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:36,480</time>
<s>你说人艺的很多演员这功夫</s>
<time>643_00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:39,720</time>
<s>我认为在外头电影电视</s>
<time>644_00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:40,800</time>
<s>综艺娱乐</s>
<time>645_00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,400</time>
<s>当个明星很容易对不对</s>
<time>646_00:25:45,120 --> 00:25:46,560</time>
<s>挣钱也很容易</s>
<time>647_00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,000</time>
<s>你说这个</s>
<time>648_00:25:48,360 --> 00:25:49,800</time>
<s>这难道不是个很现实的问题吗</s>
<time>649_00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:51,960</time>
<s>人各有志</s>
<time>650_00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,200</time>
<s>不是这个其实我得到的好处</s>
<time>651_00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,000</time>
<s>是</s>
<time>652_00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:02,040</time>
<s>生长期长的植物</s>
<time>653_00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:05,640</time>
<s>你在舞台时间很长</s>
<time>654_00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,240</time>
<s>你在表演的时候你能够</s>
<time>655_00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,400</time>
<s>就是</s>
<time>656_00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:13,920</time>
<s>简单点就是你懂观众</s>
<time>657_00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:16,440</time>
<s>一定把观众摆进去</s>
<time>658_00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:18,240</time>
<s>我张个嘴的时候</s>
<time>659_00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,560</time>
<s>是把你融进来的</s>
<time>660_00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:28,320</time>
<s>这种能力好像要慢慢想</s>
<time>661_00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:30,480</time>
<s>就只有自己去体会这个事</s>
<time>662_00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:32,280</time>
<s>少春先生说</s>
<time>663_00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:33,360</time>
<s>李少春</s>
<time>664_00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:34,440</time>
<s>你一定要我讲经验</s>
<time>665_00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:35,520</time>
<s>我告诉你们</s>
<time>666_00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:37,680</time>
<s>我到一个场子</s>
<time>667_00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,200</time>
<s>我饮嗓子的时候我上台就看</s>
<time>668_00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,520</time>
<s>座儿的深浅宽窄</s>
<time>669_00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,400</time>
<s>我亮相我不能让一个观众</s>
<time>670_00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:48,480</time>
<s>看不着的</s>
<time>671_00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,640</time>
<s>这个场子大了宽了</s>
<time>672_00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:53,880</time>
<s>我绝对多垫半步我才亮</s>
<time>673_00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:56,760</time>
<s>然后出这个幕缝</s>
<time>674_00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:00,720</time>
<s>就一个那样</s>
<time>675_00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,880</time>
<s>这场子大</s>
<time>676_00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:06,120</time>
<s>有人专门爱买偏座便宜票</s>
<time>677_00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:06,840</time>
<s>就听唱的</s>
<time>678_00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,000</time>
<s>我也让你看我</s>
<time>679_00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:12,240</time>
<s>我就多垫出那一半步来</s>
<time>680_00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:13,680</time>
<s>然后让每个</s>
<time>681_00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:15,120</time>
<s>他就心系观众</s>
<time>682_00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,360</time>
<s>我觉得他是有点儿这个功夫</s>
<time>683_00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,880</time>
<s>有些超出我们的理解</s>
<time>684_00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,320</time>
<s>就比如说我看过您一次</s>
<time>685_00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,120</time>
<s>就是说《哈姆雷特》这个词</s>
<time>686_00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,200</time>
<s>To be or not to be（生存还是毁灭）</s>
<time>687_00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,360</time>
<s>您看你刚才讲这个重音很有意思</s>
<time>688_00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:28,800</time>
<s>刚才她给我看一段视频</s>
<time>689_00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:31,680</time>
<s>就是英国好多演员就讲这个话</s>
<time>690_00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:32,760</time>
<s>就To beor not to be（生存还是毁灭）</s>
<time>691_00:27:33,120 --> 00:27:33,480</time>
<s>That is the question。</s><s>（这是一个值得考虑的问题）</s>
<time>692_00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,360</time>
<s>每一个演员重音放在不同的词上</s>
<time>693_00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:39,240</time>
<s>最后他们把查尔斯王子也请来了</s>
<time>694_00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:40,320</time>
<s>查尔斯王子说</s>
<time>695_00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,040</time>
<s>tobe or not to be</s>
<time>696_00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:42,120</time>
<s>This is a question</s>
<time>697_00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:44,640</time>
<s>他放在了这个问题上</s>
<time>698_00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:46,800</time>
<s>我有一次听您说</s>
<time>699_00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:49,320</time>
<s>您说大家都说生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>700_00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:50,400</time>
<s>这是一个问题</s>
<time>701_00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:51,840</time>
<s>或者这是一个值得考虑的问题</s>
<time>702_00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,000</time>
<s>您还给大家当时怎么来了一段</s>
<time>703_00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:56,160</time>
<s>每一次表演</s>
<time>704_00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,680</time>
<s>它可能有具体的环境</s>
<time>705_00:27:59,040 --> 00:27:59,400</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>706_00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:02,640</time>
<s>我给上海的藏族班排戏的时候</s>
<time>707_00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:03,720</time>
<s>我这段的处理</s>
<time>708_00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,320</time>
<s>是全世界看都没有的</s>
<time>709_00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,400</time>
<s>他正好我一想</s>
<time>710_00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:10,920</time>
<s>他（哈姆雷特）这段困惑的台词的</s>
<time>711_00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,800</time>
<s>表达的这个情节段落</s>
<time>712_00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:20,640</time>
<s>是在他（哈姆雷特）编国王被暗杀的情节</s>
<time>713_00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,080</time>
<s>插进他们的表演</s>
<time>714_00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:23,520</time>
<s>他写不下去了</s>
<time>715_00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:24,960</time>
<s>他在编剧本</s>
<time>716_00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:27,120</time>
<s>在上一场戏他是问</s>
<time>717_00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,280</time>
<s>我马上插一个情节你能背下来吗</s>
<time>718_00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:30,000</time>
<s>没问题</s>
<time>719_00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:32,520</time>
<s>走了就开始了</s>
<time>720_00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:33,960</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>721_00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:35,400</time>
<s>那我说这从情节来看</s>
<time>722_00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,480</time>
<s>他（哈姆雷特）是编故事的</s>
<time>723_00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:37,920</time>
<s>我让这孩子</s>
<time>724_00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:40,080</time>
<s>然后有一段</s>
<time>725_00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320</time>
<s>那个奥菲莉娅被宫廷裹进来</s>
<time>726_00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,200</time>
<s>让她偷偷地来看哈姆雷特</s>
<time>727_00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:48,360</time>
<s>刺激他把他的礼物还给他</s>
<time>728_00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:50,160</time>
<s>就那个情节一垫场</s>
<time>729_00:28:50,520 --> 00:28:52,320</time>
<s>哈姆雷特一直在台前</s>
<time>730_00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:53,040</time>
<s>写不下去了</s>
<time>731_00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,160</time>
<s>就是不知道</s>
<time>732_00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,960</time>
<s>怎么流露出的这句话</s>
<time>733_00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,400</time>
<s>活着还是死去</s>
<time>734_00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:03,480</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>735_00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:04,200</time>
<s>这值得考虑</s>
<time>736_00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:08,520</time>
<s>生存还是</s>
<time>737_00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,680</time>
<s>他马上在自己的剧本的边上</s>
<time>738_00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,560</time>
<s>就去把这个记述下来</s>
<time>739_00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,440</time>
<s>然后他不编剧本了</s>
<time>740_00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,960</time>
<s>就发展自己的这种感受</s>
<time>741_00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,840</time>
<s>写到中间的时候写不下去了</s>
<time>742_00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:23,280</time>
<s>说不下去了</s>
<time>743_00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,760</time>
<s>然后这个情节继续</s>
<time>744_00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,560</time>
<s>当然台词要完整</s>
<time>745_00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,080</time>
<s>他死的时候死了</s>
<time>746_00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,320</time>
<s>然后突然间</s>
<time>747_00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,200</time>
<s>他把扶着他那俩掘墓人一推</s>
<time>748_00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,800</time>
<s>满台找那个纸团</s>
<time>749_00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:45,960</time>
<s>把那纸团展平了</s>
<time>750_00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,480</time>
<s>回到了他死亡的姿势</s>
<time>751_00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,000</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>752_00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,160</time>
<s>这是值得考（虑）</s>
<time>753_00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,880</time>
<s>死了</s>
<time>754_00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:57,120</time>
<s>所有在场的人</s>
<time>755_00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:58,920</time>
<s>侍者还有那些天使</s>
<time>756_00:29:59,280 --> 00:29:59,640</time>
<s>都不知道</s>
<time>757_00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:01,440</time>
<s>他在说什么呢</s>
<time>758_00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,320</time>
<s>这俩掘墓人把他放躺下了</s>
<time>759_00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,840</time>
<s>这俩掘墓人把那纸团捡起来</s>
<time>760_00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:07,920</time>
<s>写什么呢</s>
<time>761_00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,440</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>762_00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,040</time>
<s>值得考虑的问题</s>
<time>763_00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:18,720</time>
<s>收光这个结尾他就串联起来</s>
<time>764_00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,240</time>
<s>从结构上有了那么一个</s>
<time>765_00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:22,320</time>
<s>你说他这个东西</s>
<time>766_00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,760</time>
<s>好像每次都不一样</s>
<time>767_00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:25,200</time>
<s>一层一层</s>
<time>768_00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:26,640</time>
<s>变幻无方他这个东西</s>
<time>769_00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,080</time>
<s>这次我们剧院里头</s>
<time>770_00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:29,520</time>
<s>七十周年</s>
<time>771_00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,600</time>
<s>我们演小节目</s>
<time>772_00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:32,760</time>
<s>我演哈姆雷特</s>
<time>773_00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:34,560</time>
<s>我没有这么处理</s>
<time>774_00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:36,720</time>
<s>我让那三天</s>
<time>775_00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,600</time>
<s>说我三天前我告诉你道具的时候</s>
<time>776_00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,400</time>
<s>你快给我做一个</s>
<time>777_00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:43,200</time>
<s>他说三天</s>
<time>778_00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:44,640</time>
<s>我说做一个那种发光的</s>
<time>779_00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,800</time>
<s>我说那个里头灯亮</s>
<time>780_00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:48,240</time>
<s>透出那个里头亮</s>
<time>781_00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:50,400</time>
<s>他们还真就给做出来</s>
<time>782_00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,000</time>
<s>掏空了还不怕热度</s>
<time>783_00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,960</time>
<s>实际上我趴在那儿之后</s>
<time>784_00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:00,120</time>
<s>把老（父）王的信息收完之后</s>
<time>785_00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,360</time>
<s>直接就一个小节目</s>
<time>786_00:31:03,720 --> 00:31:05,160</time>
<s>不能演全剧独角戏</s>
<time>787_00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:06,600</time>
<s>直接就奔那</s>
<time>788_00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:11,280</time>
<s>你能告诉我答案吗</s>
<time>789_00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:12,720</time>
<s>对我看了</s>
<time>790_00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:14,160</time>
<s>死的灵魂能告诉我</s>
<time>791_00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:15,240</time>
<s>各种各样的处理</s>
<time>792_00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:17,760</time>
<s>然后你躺在那儿趴在那儿</s>
<time>793_00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:19,200</time>
<s>坐在那儿</s>
<time>794_00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,040</time>
<s>最后在噢悔自己犹豫不前</s>
<time>795_00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,080</time>
<s>《妈由北京人风艺求剧院</s>
<time>796_00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:52,680</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>797_00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:58,080</time>
<s>这是值得考虑的问题</s>
<time>798_00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,760</time>
<s>默然忍受命运残虐的毒箭</s>
<time>799_00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:03,480</time>
<s>还是挺身反抗并结束这无涯的苦难</s>
<time>800_00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:04,200</time>
<s>还是挺身反抗并结束这无涯的苦难*人剧院</s>
<time>801_00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:06,360</time>
<s>还是挺身反抗并结束这无涯的苦难*京人艺利院</s>
<time>802_00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,520</time>
<s>这两种行为哪一种</s>
<time>803_00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:09,240</time>
<s>更高贵</s>
<time>804_00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:13,200</time>
<s>死了睡着了</s>
<time>805_00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,000</time>
<s>什么都没有了</s>
<time>806_00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:17,160</time>
<s>要是在这样一种睡眠中</s>
<time>807_00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,960</time>
<s>我们心头的创痛</s>
<time>808_00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:20,760</time>
<s>以及其他无数血肉之躯</s>
<time>809_00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:21,840</time>
<s>所不能避免的打击</s>
<time>810_00:32:22,200 --> 00:32:23,640</time>
<s>都可以从此消失</s>
<time>811_00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:26,160</time>
<s>那正是我求之不得的结局</s>
<time>812_00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:29,400</time>
<s>死了睡着了</s>
<time>813_00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:33,360</time>
<s>睡着了还会做梦</s>
<time>814_00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,160</time>
<s>对障碍就在这儿</s>
<time>815_00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:37,680</time>
<s>因为一旦我们摆脱了</s>
<time>816_00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:39,120</time>
<s>这具腐朽的皮囊之后</s>
<time>817_00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,920</time>
<s>在死的睡眠里</s>
<time>818_00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:43,440</time>
<s>会做什么梦</s>
<time>819_00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,760</time>
<s>这不能不使我踏顾虑</s>
<time>820_00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240</time>
<s>人们甘心久困于患难之中</s>
<time>821_00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,200</time>
<s>就是为了这个缘故</s>
<time>822_00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,760</time>
<s>谁愿意忍受人世的鞭挞和讥嘲</s>
<time>823_00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:07,560</time>
<s>压迫者的凌辱傲慢者的冷眼</s>
<time>824_00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,360</time>
<s>爱情的觉悟官吏的暴政</s>
<time>825_00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,960</time>
<s>和费尽辛勤所换来的小人的视</s>
<time>826_00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,480</time>
<s>要是一把小刀就可以勾销人生</s>
<time>827_00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,000</time>
<s>谁愿意忍受这样的重担</s>
<time>828_00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,400</time>
<s>倘不是因为惧怕不可知的死后</s>
<time>829_00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,000</time>
<s>惧怕那从来不曾有</s>
<time>830_00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,240</time>
<s>一个旅人回来过的神秘之国</s>
<time>831_00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,120</time>
<s>正是这种惧怕</s>
<time>832_00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,640</time>
<s>麻痹了我们的意志</s>
<time>833_00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:54,360</time>
<s>麻痹了我们的意志纯京人鼠艺求剧</s>
<time>834_00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:55,800</time>
<s>麻痹了我们的意志</s>
<time>835_00:33:56,160 --> 00:34:00,120</time>
<s>使我们宁愿忍受眼前的煎熬</s>
<time>836_00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,520</time>
<s>而不敢去领教那无人可知的苦痛</s>
<time>837_00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:10,920</time>
<s>就这样重重地顾虑</s>
<time>838_00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,800</time>
<s>使我们全变成了儒夫</s>
<time>839_00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:14,880</time>
<s>是决心的光彩</s>
<time>840_00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,560</time>
<s>被审慎的思维蒙上了一层灰色</s>
<time>841_00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,160</time>
<s>使那些高瞻远瞩的计划半途天折</s>
<time>842_00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:27,840</time>
<s>生存还是毁灭</s>
<time>843_00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:33,600</time>
<s>这是个值得考虑的问题</s>
<time>844_00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:45,480</time>
<s>因为想得太多而丧失一切的机会</s>
<time>845_00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,000</time>
<s>人是因为死亡</s>
<time>846_00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:49,440</time>
<s>犹豫葬送了一切</s>
<time>847_00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,160</time>
<s>您说的这句话</s>
<time>848_00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,320</time>
<s>死亡的国度没有一个旅人回来</s>
<time>849_00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,920</time>
<s>死亡明明看着他还在</s>
<time>850_00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,000</time>
<s>但是他已经死了</s>
<time>851_00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,440</time>
<s>我们去给他翰</s>
<time>852_00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,680</time>
<s>这几天我们老在送别人</s>
<time>853_00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:03,840</time>
<s>生命就是这样</s>
<time>854_00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,800</time>
<s>但是我昨天还在谈</s>
<time>855_00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:09,960</time>
<s>说死之后是真的死吗</s>
<time>856_00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,040</time>
<s>有灵魂吗</s>
<time>857_00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,280</time>
<s>我曾经做过这个</s>
<time>858_00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:15,360</time>
<s>这是哲学问题</s>
<time>859_00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,880</time>
<s>我想去捐献遗体</s>
<time>860_00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:20,040</time>
<s>家里不干</s>
<time>861_00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,560</time>
<s>因为我犹豫不决</s>
<time>862_00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,080</time>
<s>我也就没有去签那个</s>
