<time>1_00:01:19,920 --> 00:01:21,360</time>
<s>所以你要建立一个历法</s>
<time>2_00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,880</time>
<s>特别是能够指导你的农耕</s>
<time>3_00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,040</time>
<s>农耕文化的发展</s>
<time>4_00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:28,560</time>
<s>是需要非常非常</s>
<time>5_00:01:28,920 --> 00:01:30,360</time>
<s>仔细地观测和推演</s>
<time>6_00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:32,160</time>
<s>这个颜色怎么这么配</s>
<time>7_00:01:32,880 --> 00:01:33,960</time>
<s>这真是搭配</s>
<time>8_00:01:34,320 --> 00:01:34,680</time>
<s>双色</s>
<time>9_00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:35,760</time>
<s>我本来穿一黑衣服</s>
<time>10_00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:36,840</time>
<s>他这搭配就撞色</s>
<time>11_00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:37,920</time>
<s>后来他说跟他那个黑衣服撞色</s>
<time>12_00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,000</time>
<s>我就换了一个</s>
<time>13_00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:39,720</time>
<s>厂家给钱了</s>
<time>14_00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:41,520</time>
<s>我们这个颜色挺好</s>
<time>15_00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:42,960</time>
<s>可以开始</s>
<time>16_00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:22,560</time>
<s>本节目由给你深度好睡眠的</s>
<time>17_00:02:22,920 --> 00:02:25,080</time>
<s>喜临门床垫独家冠名播出</s>
<time>18_00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:26,880</time>
<s>这跟咱们节目也合适</s>
<time>19_00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:27,960</time>
<s>我不知道今天</s>
<time>20_00:02:28,320 --> 00:02:29,400</time>
<s>是不是也能给大家深度好睡眠</s>
<time>21_00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:30,120</time>
<s>|床垫喜临门是不是也能给大家深度好睡眠圆某派</s>
<time>22_00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:31,560</time>
<s>床垫喜临门聊睡了是吗圆果派</s>
<time>23_00:02:31,920 --> 00:02:33,000</time>
<s>床垫喜临门不是咱们今天圆派</s>
<time>24_00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:34,080</time>
<s>床垫喜临门我估计最后大家睡不着圆桌派</s>
<time>25_00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:35,160</time>
<s>床垫喜临门圆派</s>
<time>26_00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:36,960</time>
<s>博士（国家天文台创新团组首席研究员）</s>
<time>27_00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:37,680</time>
<s>咱们太久没见了</s>
<time>28_00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:39,840</time>
<s>包括轶君你看</s>
<time>29_00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:41,640</time>
<s>我都不知道该怎么介绍了</s>
<time>30_00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:43,440</time>
<s>就故友重逢</s>
<time>31_00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,880</time>
<s>朱馆长（北京天文馆馆长）</s>
<time>32_00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:47,400</time>
<s>咱先介绍头一回见面的是吧</s>
<time>33_00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:48,480</time>
<s>轶君刚才</s>
<time>34_00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:49,920</time>
<s>已经崇拜已久了是吗</s>
<time>35_00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:50,640</time>
<s>不敢不敢</s>
<time>36_00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,160</time>
<s>我以为馆长应该是一个很官样的</s>
<time>37_00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:54,240</time>
<s>结果他这么放松</s>
<time>38_00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:56,760</time>
<s>一看就是经常在山野之间</s>
<time>39_00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:58,200</time>
<s>观测自然星空</s>
<time>40_00:02:58,920 --> 00:03:00,000</time>
<s>主要是你不知道他另外一个身份</s>
<time>41_00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:01,440</time>
<s>我确实观测很多</s>
<time>42_00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:02,520</time>
<s>什么身份</s>
<time>43_00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,600</time>
<s>跑步狂人</s>
<time>44_00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,120</time>
<s>是一看穿这个就是</s>
<time>45_00:03:06,480 --> 00:03:07,200</time>
<s>几次两次吧</s>
<time>46_00:03:07,920 --> 00:03:08,280</time>
<s>“八百流沙”（八百流沙极限赛）</s>
<time>47_00:03:09,000 --> 00:03:09,360</time>
<s>三次</s>
<time>48_00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:10,080</time>
<s>体脂率是</s>
<time>49_00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:10,800</time>
<s>三次“八百流沙”</s>
<time>50_00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:12,240</time>
<s>体脂率零点几吧</s>
<time>51_00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:12,960</time>
<s>没有没有</s>
<time>52_00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:14,040</time>
<s>不算厉害的对</s>
<time>53_00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:15,480</time>
<s>但我经常跑得多</s>
<time>54_00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:16,560</time>
<s>经常驱驰几百公里</s>
<time>55_00:03:16,920 --> 00:03:18,720</time>
<s>要拍那个“天宫”是吗</s>
<time>56_00:03:19,800 --> 00:03:21,240</time>
<s>拍“天宫”当然也还是</s>
<time>57_00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:21,960</time>
<s>那多数都是开车</s>
<time>58_00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:23,760</time>
<s>我发现搞天文的</s>
<time>59_00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:25,920</time>
<s>身体都值得一说</s>
<time>60_00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:27,360</time>
<s>你也算是虽然不算专业</s>
<time>61_00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:29,160</time>
<s>但业余登山家算了吧</s>
<time>62_00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:30,960</time>
<s>上一次也见证了您特别能跑</s>
<time>63_00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:32,040</time>
<s>特别能爬</s>
<time>64_00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:34,920</time>
<s>我们上一次是在《行天下》</s>
<time>65_00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:36,720</time>
<s>《行天下》节目里</s>
<time>66_00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,880</time>
<s>我们去冷湖天文台</s>
<time>67_00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,480</time>
<s>咱们在篝火当中冻得的</s>
<time>68_00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:43,560</time>
<s>仰望星空</s>
<time>69_00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:44,640</time>
<s>什么都没见着</s>
<time>70_00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:46,440</time>
<s>然后邓博士说</s>
<time>71_00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:47,160</time>
<s>你的棉袄还烧了一个</s>
<time>72_00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:49,320</time>
<s>对我的棉袄都烧了个洞</s>
<time>73_00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:50,760</time>
<s>然后当时邓博士说</s>
<time>74_00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:52,920</time>
<s>咱们真要看星星</s>
<time>75_00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:54,360</time>
<s>就不能点这个篝火</s>
<time>76_00:03:56,520 --> 00:03:57,960</time>
<s>那次大家太喜欢你了</s>
<time>77_00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,040</time>
<s>都说邓博士</s>
<time>78_00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,560</time>
<s>您应该从观测第一线上回来</s>
<time>79_00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:02,280</time>
<s>跟我们聊聊</s>
<time>80_00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:03,360</time>
<s>这不一下拉来一个</s>
<time>81_00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:04,800</time>
<s>您的研究生同学</s>
<time>82_00:04:05,880 --> 00:04:06,600</time>
<s>算</s>
<time>83_00:04:06,960 --> 00:04:07,320</time>
<s>以前的对</s>
<time>84_00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:08,400</time>
<s>而且我们也是同事</s>
<time>85_00:04:08,760 --> 00:04:09,120</time>
<s>曾经在天文台</s>
<time>86_00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,200</time>
<s>我们一个课题组待过还</s>
<time>87_00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:11,280</time>
<s>李才因为</s>
<time>88_00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:12,360</time>
<s>肯定他是</s>
<time>89_00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:13,800</time>
<s>我觉得他更专业比我</s>
<time>90_00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:15,240</time>
<s>他是负责理财</s>
<time>91_00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:16,320</time>
<s>不不不不能这么说</s>
<time>92_00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:17,040</time>
<s>他是学天体物理嘛</s>
<time>93_00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:17,760</time>
<s>不能这么说</s>
<time>94_00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:18,480</time>
<s>对对对</s>
<time>95_00:04:18,840 --> 00:04:19,560</time>
<s>我们天文学里有几个分支</s>
<time>96_00:04:19,920 --> 00:04:20,280</time>
<s>我还是偏观测</s>
<time>97_00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:21,360</time>
<s>以前古老的</s>
<time>98_00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:22,440</time>
<s>我刚才说到历法</s>
<time>99_00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:23,520</time>
<s>建立历法</s>
<time>100_00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,040</time>
<s>需要观测的那个天象</s>
<time>101_00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,120</time>
<s>记录星星的位置</s>
<time>102_00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:29,640</time>
<s>太阳的时间时刻地点</s>
<time>103_00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,880</time>
<s>有一门学问叫作天体测量学</s>
<time>104_00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:34,320</time>
<s>他是做这个的</s>
<time>105_00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:35,760</time>
<s>实际上那个才是天文学的根儿</s>
<time>106_00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,200</time>
<s>就是我的专业相对</s>
<time>107_00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,000</time>
<s>就是跟多数的天文学家不太一样</s>
<time>108_00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,880</time>
<s>而且我知道咱们朱馆长</s>
<time>109_00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:44,400</time>
<s>他也是天上一颗星</s>
<time>110_00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:45,840</time>
<s>是绝对是</s>
<time>111_00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:47,280</time>
<s>说他的那个课题组吧</s>
<time>112_00:04:47,640 --> 00:04:48,360</time>
<s>反正观测那个组</s>
<time>113_00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:50,160</time>
<s>观测过两千七百</s>
<time>114_00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:52,320</time>
<s>还是两千八百多颗小行星</s>
<time>115_00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:53,040</time>
<s>小行星</s>
<time>116_00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:54,840</time>
<s>当年其实邓李才我们一个组的</s>
<time>117_00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:56,640</time>
<s>说他观测了一个什么彗星</s>
<time>118_00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,160</time>
<s>然后就以他的名字</s>
<time>119_00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:00,600</time>
<s>叫朱-巴拉姆彗星</s>
<time>120_00:05:00,960 --> 00:05:01,320</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>121_00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:02,400</time>
<s>为什么叫巴拉姆</s>
<time>122_00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,200</time>
<s>为什么没叫朱-李才彗星呢</s>
<time>123_00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:05,280</time>
<s>这是1997年的事</s>
<time>124_00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,080</time>
<s>那我是正好那天晚上我值班</s>
<time>125_00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:08,520</time>
<s>我那会儿经常在山上待着</s>
<time>126_00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:09,600</time>
<s>就是在兴隆（观测基地）</s>
<time>127_00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,040</time>
<s>然后就是发现的时候</s>
<time>128_00:05:11,400 --> 00:05:12,480</time>
<s>我们当时没看出来它是誓星</s>
<time>129_00:05:12,840 --> 00:05:14,280</time>
<s>我们以为它是个小行星</s>
<time>130_00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:15,360</time>
<s>就按小行星报上去了</s>
<time>131_00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,800</time>
<s>因为它反正是新发现的</s>
<time>132_00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:17,880</time>
<s>一个移动天体</s>
<time>133_00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:18,960</time>
<s>是看到它闪烁</s>
<time>134_00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:20,040</time>
<s>还是有异常的</s>
<time>135_00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,840</time>
<s>没有看到它相对于恒星背景</s>
<time>136_00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:22,920</time>
<s>在走在动</s>
<time>137_00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:24,360</time>
<s>不同的时间拍三张以后</s>
<time>138_00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:25,440</time>
<s>你看它在恒星背景下</s>
<time>139_00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:26,520</time>
<s>因为所有天上的恒星</s>
<time>140_00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:27,960</time>
<s>因为我们望远镜是跟踪的</s>
<time>141_00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:28,680</time>
<s>所以天上的恒星</s>
<time>142_00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:30,840</time>
<s>其实它都相对位置没有变化</s>
<time>143_00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:31,920</time>
<s>但是你会发现其中有的在</s>
<time>144_00:05:32,280 --> 00:05:33,000</time>
<s>它上面会动</s>
<time>145_00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:34,080</time>
<s>动以后我们就知道</s>
<time>146_00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:35,160</time>
<s>这是一个近地天体</s>
<time>147_00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,320</time>
<s>应该是绕太阳运动的一个东西</s>
<time>148_00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:39,120</time>
<s>我们当时以为是小行星报了</s>
<time>149_00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:41,280</time>
<s>但是小行星报上去以后就是</s>
<time>150_00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:42,360</time>
<s>后来因为是加拿大的</s>
<time>151_00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,520</time>
<s>有一个兄弟</s>
<time>152_00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,320</time>
<s>那哥们儿就一看我们已经</s>
<time>153_00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:47,040</time>
<s>他知道我们发现了</s>
<time>154_00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:48,120</time>
<s>好几颗还不是一颗</s>
<time>155_00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:49,560</time>
<s>他就拿他的一个更大</s>
<time>156_00:05:49,920 --> 00:05:52,080</time>
<s>口径更大的望远镜去做后期观测</s>
<time>157_00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:53,160</time>
<s>结果他一看</s>
<time>158_00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:55,320</time>
<s>发现这个东西其实不是一个（小行星）对</s>
<time>159_00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,760</time>
<s>它有点儿像棉花团似的</s>
<time>160_00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:57,840</time>
<s>就不是一个亮点</s>
<time>161_00:05:58,560 --> 00:05:59,640</time>
<s>所以他觉得是誓星</s>
<time>162_00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:00,720</time>
<s>然后他再告诉小行星中心</s>
<time>163_00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:01,800</time>
<s>小行星中心又找了欧洲</s>
<time>164_00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:03,600</time>
<s>找了几个人去做证认</s>
<time>165_00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,040</time>
<s>最后发现它真的是颗誓星</s>
<time>166_00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,200</time>
<s>结果到第二年的</s>
<time>167_00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,080</time>
<s>就是1998年的年初的时候</s>
<time>168_00:06:10,440 --> 00:06:11,880</time>
<s>直接就公布了一个</s>
<time>169_00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,040</time>
<s>直接出了一个特别长的一个公告</s>
<time>170_00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,480</time>
<s>就说这个彗星的命名</s>
<time>171_00:06:15,840 --> 00:06:17,280</time>
<s>从现在开始要改规矩了</s>
<time>172_00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:19,080</time>
<s>如果发现者没看出来是彗星</s>
<time>173_00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,240</time>
<s>同时它的轨道本身</s>
<time>174_00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,680</time>
<s>又不是特别特殊的话</s>
<time>175_00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:24,840</time>
<s>那么再被别人看到的话</s>
<time>176_00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:25,920</time>
<s>那这个彗星的命名</s>
<time>177_00:06:26,280 --> 00:06:29,160</time>
<s>就是由发现者和最早看出来</s>
<time>178_00:06:29,520 --> 00:06:31,680</time>
<s>它是彗星的那个人一起来命名</s>
<time>179_00:06:32,040 --> 00:06:33,480</time>
<s>就这巴拉姆是后来看出来的</s>
<time>180_00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,560</time>
<s>对他看出来的</s>
<time>181_00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,360</time>
<s>他叫戴维·巴拉姆</s>
<time>182_00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:37,800</time>
<s>戴维·巴拉姆</s>
<time>183_00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,240</time>
<s>朱是先发现的</s>
<time>184_00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,680</time>
<s>对我们等于是发现</s>
<time>185_00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:41,760</time>
<s>但是实际上也不能说我发现</s>
<time>186_00:06:42,120 --> 00:06:43,560</time>
<s>其实还是等于我们组发现的</s>
<time>187_00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,000</time>
<s>所以是世界上第一个</s>
<time>188_00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:48,240</time>
<s>就是由发现者和看出来</s>
<time>189_00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,040</time>
<s>最早看出来它是誓星特征的</s>
<time>190_00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:51,480</time>
<s>那个人共同命名的一个（慧星）</s>
<time>191_00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:52,920</time>
<s>这也算载入史册</s>
<time>192_00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:54,000</time>
<s>比较好玩儿就是</s>
<time>193_00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:55,800</time>
<s>所以电视剧里那个真的假的</s>
<time>194_00:06:56,160 --> 00:06:58,320</time>
<s>有的说给他儿子买一颗星星</s>
<time>195_00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,400</time>
<s>用他的名字来命名</s>
<time>196_00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:00,120</time>
<s>这是真的假的</s>
<time>197_00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:01,560</time>
<s>买星星那肯定都是瞎说的</s>
<time>198_00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:02,280</time>
<s>现在是这样就是说</s>
<time>199_00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,440</time>
<s>但是有一种情况就是说</s>
<time>200_00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:05,520</time>
<s>因为小行星</s>
<time>201_00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:08,400</time>
<s>就是小行星它是由发现者命名</s>
<time>202_00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,200</time>
<s>就是彗星是以发现者命名</s>
<time>203_00:07:10,560 --> 00:07:12,360</time>
<s>谁发现的以谁的名字命名</s>
<time>204_00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:13,440</time>
<s>如果是小行星</s>
<time>205_00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:14,880</time>
<s>就是谁发现的</s>
<time>206_00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:15,960</time>
<s>他可以给它起名字</s>
<time>207_00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:17,400</time>
<s>像我们以前我们这个组</s>
<time>208_00:07:17,760 --> 00:07:18,840</time>
<s>在天文台的时候当时发现了</s>
<time>209_00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:19,920</time>
<s>就是我们有命名权的</s>
<time>210_00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:22,440</time>
<s>大概是在1400个左右</s>
<time>211_00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:24,240</time>
<s>那这1400左右</s>
<time>212_00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:25,320</time>
<s>其实就是说由我们发现组</s>
<time>213_00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:26,400</time>
<s>就可以给它起名字</s>
<time>214_00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,200</time>
<s>包括比如我们那会儿起金庸对吧</s>
<time>215_00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,720</time>
<s>还起了一些其他的名字</s>
<time>216_00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,160</time>
<s>袁隆平</s>
<time>217_00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:32,880</time>
<s>小行星的命名</s>
<time>218_00:07:33,240 --> 00:07:35,040</time>
<s>它其实是反映发现者意志的</s>
<time>219_00:07:35,400 --> 00:07:36,840</time>
<s>并不是说你一定要命名</s>
<time>220_00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,920</time>
<s>比如特别有名的人</s>
<time>221_00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:39,720</time>
<s>是他自己愿意命什么名（就命什么名）</s>
<time>222_00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,160</time>
<s>就是说你还有机会</s>
<time>223_00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:42,240</time>
<s>变成一颗小行星的名字</s>
<time>224_00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:42,960</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>225_00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:44,400</time>
<s>比如说要命名你们二位</s>
<time>226_00:07:44,760 --> 00:07:45,480</time>
<s>那肯定可以</s>
<time>227_00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:47,640</time>
<s>就是说这个完全可以就是由</s>
<time>228_00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,360</time>
<s>或者我们的爱好者</s>
<time>229_00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:49,800</time>
<s>这我说的不是</s>
<time>230_00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:51,960</time>
<s>您这对您可以把我们俩也意志一下</s>
<time>231_00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:52,680</time>
<s>对吧</s>
<time>232_00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:54,120</time>
<s>但因为不是我发现的</s>
<time>233_00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:55,920</time>
<s>窦周行星</s>
<time>234_00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:57,360</time>
<s>不不不来一个文涛</s>
<time>235_00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,440</time>
<s>它一般就用一个人的（名字）嘛</s>
<time>236_00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,240</time>
<s>圆桌派小行星</s>
<time>237_00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:01,320</time>
<s>就是这个小行星</s>
<time>238_00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:02,760</time>
<s>它是反映发现者意志</s>
<time>239_00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:04,200</time>
<s>然后它有一些规矩</s>
<time>240_00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,360</time>
<s>比如说就是政治家军事家</s>
<time>241_00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,440</time>
<s>必须死后一百年</s>
<time>242_00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:09,960</time>
<s>那还是算了</s>
<time>243_00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:11,040</time>
<s>算了</s>
<time>244_00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:11,760</time>
<s>你算不上呀</s>
<time>245_00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:12,480</time>
<s>我也不是政治家军事家</s>
<time>246_00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:13,560</time>
<s>我活着就行了</s>
<time>247_00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:16,080</time>
<s>对所以你们俩命名肯定没问题</s>
<time>248_00:08:16,440 --> 00:08:17,520</time>
<s>就是只要有人发现</s>
<time>249_00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:18,600</time>
<s>他愿意拿你们俩命名</s>
<time>250_00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,680</time>
<s>原则上因为我们有一个</s>
<time>251_00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,200</time>
<s>就是国际天文学联合会</s>
<time>252_00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,640</time>
<s>有一个小天体提名委员会</s>
<time>253_00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:25,440</time>
<s>现在叫小天体提名工作组</s>
<time>254_00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,880</time>
<s>我自己一直是这个工作组里的</s>
<time>255_00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,680</time>
<s>就我们现在是十一个人投票</s>
<time>256_00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:30,120</time>
<s>就是你只要大家谁提的</s>
<time>257_00:08:30,480 --> 00:08:31,560</time>
<s>全世界爱好者发现的小行星</s>
<time>258_00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:32,640</time>
<s>大家一投票</s>
<time>259_00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:34,080</time>
<s>然后我们这帮人就开始提议</s>
<time>260_00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:35,880</time>
<s>所以增加咱们命名概率</s>
<time>261_00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:36,960</time>
<s>有个什么方法</s>
<time>262_00:08:37,320 --> 00:08:39,840</time>
<s>就是要呼吁我们观众粉丝里头</s>
<time>263_00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:40,920</time>
<s>爱观星的人越多</s>
<time>264_00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:42,360</time>
<s>这个机会就越高</s>
<time>265_00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:43,440</time>
<s>对吧</s>
<time>266_00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:44,880</time>
<s>对所以就是你铁杆的粉丝</s>
<time>267_00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:47,400</time>
<s>其实这个是非常可能的</s>
<time>268_00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:48,480</time>
<s>你这个一下儿让我</s>
<time>269_00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,720</time>
<s>又认识到有这么一个群体</s>
<time>270_00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:53,160</time>
<s>多少人仰望星空</s>
<time>271_00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,600</time>
<s>也不要说现在不爱仰望星空</s>
<time>272_00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,040</time>
<s>实际很多对吧</s>
<time>273_00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:57,480</time>
<s>因为我很好奇</s>
<time>274_00:08:57,840 --> 00:08:58,920</time>
<s>就是你想</s>
<time>275_00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:00,360</time>
<s>这个哈勃望远镜</s>
<time>276_00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:01,800</time>
<s>看到多深的深空</s>
<time>277_00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:04,680</time>
<s>这望远镜如果一下子</s>
<time>278_00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:06,480</time>
<s>又先进了一个世代的话</s>
<time>279_00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:09,000</time>
<s>当然我们很好奇</s>
<time>280_00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:10,440</time>
<s>就是你原来看到的</s>
<time>281_00:09:11,160 --> 00:09:13,320</time>
<s>现在看到的是什么对吧</s>
<time>282_00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:14,400</time>
<s>这个您可以给我们讲讲</s>
<time>283_00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,640</time>
<s>你看这个就是邓博士拿来的</s>
<time>284_00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:19,800</time>
<s>这个叫作JWST(詹姆斯·韦布空间望远镜)</s>
<time>285_00:09:20,160 --> 00:09:21,240</time>
<s>后面叫作韦布</s>
<time>286_00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:22,320</time>
<s>这个发射上去了</s>
<time>287_00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:24,480</time>
<s>然后这个让我们看到了什么</s>
<time>288_00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,360</time>
<s>就是这个跨越</s>
<time>289_00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:29,520</time>
<s>是超乎我们想象的</s>
<time>290_00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:30,960</time>
<s>哈勃空间望远镜</s>
<time>291_00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,120</time>
<s>虽然成果丰硕</s>
<time>292_00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:34,560</time>
<s>硕果累累了可以叫作</s>
<time>293_00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,520</time>
<s>开创了天文学从90年代开始吧</s>
<time>294_00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:39,960</time>
<s>完全是一个新纪元</s>
<time>295_00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:41,760</time>
<s>但是这个上去以后</s>
<time>296_00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,560</time>
<s>就非常令人吃惊</s>
<time>297_00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,640</time>
<s>吃惊的是什么</s>
<time>298_00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:45,720</time>
<s>因为它口径大了</s>
<time>299_00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:47,880</time>
<s>口径大了以后它分辨率很高</s>
<time>300_00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,320</time>
<s>这是其中的一个</s>
<time>301_00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:50,760</time>
<s>另外一个原因它是在红外波段</s>
<time>302_00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,000</time>
<s>在红外波段的原因是</s>
<time>303_00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,160</time>
<s>因为你看遥远的宇宙</s>
<time>304_00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:57,960</time>
<s>这一个我们叫宇宙学红移</s>
<time>305_00:09:58,320 --> 00:09:58,680</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>306_00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:00,120</time>
<s>就是所有的东西</s>
<time>307_00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,560</time>
<s>就是早期的</s>
<time>308_00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,440</time>
<s>还有一些比较有</s>
<time>309_00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:06,240</time>
<s>恒星形成环境</s>
<time>310_00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,120</time>
<s>里头有尘埃星际介质</s>
<time>311_00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:10,920</time>
<s>它会吸收（光线）</s>
<time>312_00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:12,360</time>
<s>所以你拿光学（望远镜）可能看不见</s>
<time>313_00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:13,800</time>
<s>这个呢</s>
<time>314_00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:15,240</time>
<s>实际上这几幅图都是红外的</s>
<time>315_00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,040</time>
<s>你看这个是WISE（广域红外线巡天探测卫星）</s>
<time>316_00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:18,120</time>
<s>它的口径</s>
<time>317_00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:19,200</time>
<s>是一个小口径的一个望远镜</s>
<time>318_00:10:19,560 --> 00:10:20,640</time>
<s>口径多少我记不清楚了</s>
<time>319_00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,440</time>
<s>这Spitzer（斯皮策太空望远镜）大概是在一米左右</s>
<time>320_00:10:22,800 --> 00:10:23,880</time>
<s>看的是同样一片地方</s>
<time>321_00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:24,960</time>
<s>同样完全一样的</s>
<time>322_00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:26,400</time>
<s>完全一样的</s>
<time>323_00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:28,560</time>
<s>你看这个JWST（詹姆斯·韦布空间望远镜）</s>
<time>324_00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,000</time>
<s>出现一个细节</s>
<time>325_00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:31,080</time>
<s>这个细节是我们</s>
<time>326_00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:32,160</time>
<s>真是想都想不到</s>
<time>327_00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,320</time>
<s>比如说在Spitzer（斯皮策太空望远镜）那个时候</s>
<time>328_00:10:34,680 --> 00:10:35,760</time>
<s>跟哈勃是同时代的</s>
<time>329_00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:36,480</time>
<s>中间这幅图</s>
<time>330_00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:37,560</time>
<s>看到的</s>
<time>331_00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,000</time>
<s>你看这个细节</s>
<time>332_00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:40,440</time>
<s>所以这里头实际上</s>
<time>333_00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:41,520</time>
<s>如果是</s>
<time>334_00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:44,760</time>
<s>你要来比较这两个图的话</s>
<time>335_00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:46,200</time>
<s>那我觉得简直是</s>
<time>336_00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:48,360</time>
<s>就完全是跨越了一个时代</s>
<time>337_00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,600</time>
<s>对你来说改变了什么</s>
<time>338_00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:54,120</time>
<s>你以前对于这一片星空的</s>
<time>339_00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:54,840</time>
<s>什么认识吗</s>
<time>340_00:10:55,200 --> 00:10:55,920</time>
<s>比如说很简单</s>
<time>341_00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,360</time>
<s>你比如说你看这个</s>
<time>342_00:10:58,080 --> 00:10:58,800</time>
<s>比如说这几个亮点</s>
<time>343_00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:00,240</time>
<s>我认为是恒星对吧</s>
<time>344_00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:01,680</time>
<s>但是背景上</s>
<time>345_00:11:02,040 --> 00:11:02,760</time>
<s>我以为是星际介质</s>
<time>346_00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,640</time>
<s>但是你到了高分辨去看的时候</s>
<time>347_00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,800</time>
<s>实际上里头有很多很多的星点</s>
<time>348_00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,960</time>
<s>里头当然这些点有些是星系</s>
<time>349_00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:12,120</time>
<s>就这些以前我们完全不了解</s>
<time>350_00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,560</time>
<s>因为看不到</s>
<time>351_00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:15,000</time>
<s>你不能分辨它</s>
<time>352_00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,440</time>
<s>所以这个一个是分辨率</s>
<time>353_00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:17,880</time>
<s>就是因为口径大了</s>
<time>354_00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:19,680</time>
<s>另外一个它是在红外波段工作</s>
<time>355_00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:21,840</time>
<s>比如说我们很多现象</s>
<time>356_00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:23,640</time>
<s>比如说跟系外行星</s>
<time>357_00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:26,880</time>
<s>上面存在的一些</s>
<time>358_00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,680</time>
<s>就是适居环境的信号</s>
<time>359_00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,560</time>
<s>或者是有智慧生命</s>
<time>360_00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:32,280</time>
<s>有人住</s>
<time>361_00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:33,720</time>
<s>活动的这些信号</s>
<time>362_00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:35,160</time>
<s>是只能从</s>
<time>363_00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:37,680</time>
<s>这样的设备上面才能发现</s>
<time>364_00:11:38,400 --> 00:11:40,200</time>
<s>有人活动的信号</s>
<time>365_00:11:40,560 --> 00:11:40,920</time>
<s>不是人</s>
<time>366_00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:41,640</time>
<s>不是就像比如说</s>
<time>367_00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:43,440</time>
<s>前段时间有一个</s>
<time>368_00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:45,600</time>
<s>有一个叫作金星的一个探测</s>
<time>369_00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,040</time>
<s>俄罗斯的一个东西</s>
<time>370_00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,840</time>
<s>它就是在金星大气里头</s>
<time>371_00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:50,280</time>
<s>发现了磷</s>
<time>372_00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:51,720</time>
<s>磷的一种信号</s>
<time>373_00:11:52,440 --> 00:11:53,880</time>
<s>我们知道这个大气里头的磷</s>
<time>374_00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,400</time>
<s>磷是一种参与生命活动的</s>
<time>375_00:11:56,760 --> 00:11:57,120</time>
<s>一种东西</s>
<time>376_00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:58,560</time>
<s>你说氮磷钾的那个磷</s>
<time>377_00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:59,640</time>
<s>氮磷钾那个磷</s>
<time>378_00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:00,720</time>
<s>那个元素</s>
<time>379_00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:02,520</time>
<s>磷化氢</s>
<time>380_00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:03,600</time>
<s>磷化氢这种东西</s>
<time>381_00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:06,480</time>
<s>它会是一种生命活动</s>
<time>382_00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,200</time>
<s>留下来的痕迹</s>
<time>383_00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,360</time>
<s>所以当时就很多人怀疑</s>
<time>384_00:12:10,080 --> 00:12:11,160</time>
<s>说是金星上面</s>
<time>385_00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:12,600</time>
<s>虽然没有办法生存生命</s>
<time>386_00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:14,040</time>
<s>但是它大气里头</s>
<time>387_00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,480</time>
<s>随着大气的变化</s>
<time>388_00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:16,560</time>
<s>它有一个温区</s>
<time>389_00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:18,360</time>
<s>所以这里头有可能</s>
<time>390_00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:19,440</time>
<s>有某种生命</s>
<time>391_00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:20,520</time>
<s>哪怕是简单的</s>
<time>392_00:12:20,880 --> 00:12:21,600</time>
<s>因为磷化氢</s>
<time>393_00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,400</time>
<s>我知道那个鬼火</s>
<time>394_00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:24,120</time>
<s>它就有磷</s>
<time>395_00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:24,840</time>
<s>就是它</s>
<time>396_00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:25,920</time>
<s>就看见了是吗</s>
<time>397_00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:27,720</time>
<s>说的就是它</s>
<time>398_00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:30,600</time>
<s>所以它在那里头看到这个鬼火了</s>
<time>399_00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:31,680</time>
<s>那就肯定是</s>
<time>400_00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,400</time>
<s>那就以前</s>
<time>401_00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:33,840</time>
<s>是不是就应该有生命呢</s>
<time>402_00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,280</time>
<s>所以这个就引起了</s>
<time>403_00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,360</time>
<s>就是闹了一个乌龙</s>
<time>404_00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,520</time>
<s>最后那个结果</s>
<time>405_00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:39,960</time>
<s>经过大家认真发现</s>
<time>406_00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,840</time>
<s>发现是对信号的解读</s>
<time>407_00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:43,560</time>
<s>就过分解读了</s>
<time>408_00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:45,360</time>
<s>您说这个</s>
<time>409_00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:46,440</time>
<s>这我还有问题了</s>
<time>410_00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,240</time>
<s>这个咱们是在新闻上看到的</s>
<time>411_00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:50,040</time>
<s>就咱们那个FAST</s>
<time>412_00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:51,840</time>
<s>就那个天眼</s>
<time>413_00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:52,560</time>
<s>天眼</s>
<time>414_00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,720</time>
<s>反正是发过那个新闻</s>
<time>415_00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,240</time>
<s>就说收到了那个射电暴</s>
<time>416_00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:57,960</time>
<s>你们知道吗</s>
<time>417_00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:00,120</time>
<s>快速射电暴</s>
<time>418_00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:01,200</time>
<s>不是那个新闻</s>
<time>419_00:13:01,560 --> 00:13:02,640</time>
<s>关于快速射电暴</s>
<time>420_00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:04,440</time>
<s>是它的一个科学现象的</s>
<time>421_00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:07,320</time>
<s>跟我们刚才聊的话题相关的</s>
<time>422_00:13:07,680 --> 00:13:10,920</time>
<s>那个叫作窄带射电信号</s>
<time>423_00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:12,360</time>
<s>对反正不管它是什么</s>
<time>424_00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:14,160</time>
<s>我看见新闻就是说</s>
<time>425_00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,320</time>
<s>不排除是那个智慧</s>
<time>426_00:13:16,680 --> 00:13:17,040</time>
<s>我稍微解释一下</s>
<time>427_00:13:17,400 --> 00:13:18,480</time>
<s>远方的智慧生命</s>
<time>428_00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:20,280</time>
<s>给我们发的那个无线电信号</s>
<time>429_00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:21,360</time>
<s>对我稍微解释一下</s>
<time>430_00:13:22,080 --> 00:13:23,520</time>
<s>就是任何自然现象</s>
<time>431_00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,240</time>
<s>就是</s>
