<time>445_00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,320</time>
<s>房子在山上</s>
<time>446_00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:52,200</time>
<s>然后我说这照片是无人机吗</s>
<time>447_00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:53,280</time>
<s>这一看这角度</s>
<time>448_00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:54,360</time>
<s>也应该是无人机吧</s>
<time>449_00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,160</time>
<s>就旁边拍一张这个照片</s>
<time>450_00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:58,680</time>
<s>得几个人伺候着你知道吗</s>
<time>451_00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:00,120</time>
<s>然后这个人他还有别的</s>
<time>452_00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:01,920</time>
<s>他每次照片的那个感觉</s>
<time>453_00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,000</time>
<s>设计得非常好</s>
<time>454_00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,080</time>
<s>他去喝下午茶</s>
<time>455_00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:05,160</time>
<s>然后你就看到</s>
<time>456_00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:06,960</time>
<s>不是人家很普通的什么</s>
<time>457_00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,120</time>
<s>就拍个这个吃的东西什么的</s>
<time>458_00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,200</time>
<s>很远</s>
<time>459_00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:12,360</time>
<s>是那个酒店的下午茶那种</s>
<time>460_00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,160</time>
<s>那个小笼子吧</s>
<time>461_00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,960</time>
<s>他在那个角落里面</s>
<time>462_00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,840</time>
<s>但是他的景是实的</s>
<time>463_00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:19,920</time>
<s>前面还是虚的</s>
<time>464_00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,080</time>
<s>你说这一张照片多少人伺候</s>
<time>465_00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:24,960</time>
<s>轶君你现在帮自己凡尔赛一下</s>
<time>466_00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:26,760</time>
<s>你弄一个什么东西</s>
<time>467_00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,200</time>
<s>我没有这个才华</s>
<time>468_00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:30,000</time>
<s>我又要去阿富汗了</s>
<time>469_00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:31,800</time>
<s>不是我又要跟这么</s>
<time>470_00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:33,960</time>
<s>有才华的人一起聊天</s>
<time>471_00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,200</time>
<s>这个不算凡尔赛</s>
<time>472_00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:37,920</time>
<s>她这个没有炫耀</s>
<time>473_00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,000</time>
<s>也算就是我又要</s>
<time>474_00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,160</time>
<s>跟这么有才华的人聊天</s>
<time>475_00:16:41,520 --> 00:16:42,960</time>
<s>而且他们还老说我有才华</s>
<time>476_00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:43,680</time>
<s>化真讨厌</s>
<time>477_00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:49,080</time>
<s>马上发我马上发</s>
<time>478_00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,600</time>
<s>文涛呢</s>
<time>479_00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:52,320</time>
<s>凡尔赛一下</s>
<time>480_00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:53,760</time>
<s>不是我就是</s>
<time>481_00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:55,560</time>
<s>现在节目广告太多了</s>
<time>482_00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,280</time>
<s>《圆桌派》</s>
<time>483_00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:57,360</time>
<s>真是烦人啊</s>
<time>484_00:16:57,720 --> 00:16:58,800</time>
<s>这广告怎么这么多</s>
<time>485_00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:03,840</time>
<s>好好好</s>
<time>486_00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:05,280</time>
<s>晓卿你从这个里边</s>
<time>487_00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:06,360</time>
<s>能分析出什么来</s>
<time>488_00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,400</time>
<s>有一种得意叫</s>
<time>489_00:17:13,560 --> 00:17:15,000</time>
<s>有一种得意叫哭穷</s>
<time>490_00:17:15,360 --> 00:17:19,680</time>
<s>对凡尔赛可能我觉得应该</s>
<time>491_00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,200</time>
<s>许老师专门做一个</s>
<time>492_00:17:24,000 --> 00:17:26,160</time>
<s>因为凡尔赛说到底</s>
<time>493_00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,680</time>
<s>它是一个修辞方法</s>
<time>494_00:17:30,120 --> 00:17:31,200</time>
<s>它是一种修辞</s>
<time>495_00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:32,640</time>
<s>它就跟我们以前说的什么</s>
<time>496_00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:33,720</time>
<s>比喻什么</s>
<time>497_00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,320</time>
<s>差不多</s>
<time>498_00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,200</time>
<s>它是一种文本上的游戏</s>
<time>499_00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:41,640</time>
<s>但是它背后的这个</s>
<time>500_00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,720</time>
<s>确实有一种心理</s>
<time>501_00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:45,600</time>
<s>就是说流露优越感</s>
<time>502_00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,680</time>
<s>不小心地流露</s>
<time>503_00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:47,760</time>
<s>不小心地</s>
<time>504_00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:51,720</time>
<s>人为什么不住流露优越感</s>
<time>505_00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:53,520</time>
<s>这个还真的是</s>
<time>506_00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,680</time>
<s>不管你修为多深的人</s>
<time>507_00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,840</time>
<s>我见到的差别就是说</s>
<time>508_00:17:58,200 --> 00:17:59,640</time>
<s>修为越深的人</s>
<time>509_00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:00,720</time>
<s>你那个皮儿</s>
<time>510_00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:01,800</time>
<s>包皮儿越厚</s>
<time>511_00:18:02,160 --> 00:18:03,240</time>
<s>甚至大家都察觉不出来</s>
<time>512_00:18:03,600 --> 00:18:05,400</time>
<s>对流露得越不经心是吧</s>
<time>513_00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:06,480</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>514_00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,640</time>
<s>好像很自然的这样</s>
<time>515_00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:10,800</time>
<s>但是为什么忍不住</s>
<time>516_00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:11,880</time>
<s>总要流露呢</s>
<time>517_00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:15,480</time>
<s>比如说我</s>
<time>518_00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:17,640</time>
<s>这算流露优越感吗</s>
<time>519_00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:19,440</time>
<s>说</s>
<time>520_00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,600</time>
<s>我觉得我心里就有个矛盾</s>
<time>521_00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:22,680</time>
<s>我是属于</s>
<time>522_00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:25,560</time>
<s>其实属于那种溜墙根儿走的人</s>
<time>523_00:18:25,920 --> 00:18:28,080</time>
<s>我特别怕比如说</s>
<time>524_00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:28,800</time>
<s>当然我没钱</s>
<time>525_00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:31,680</time>
<s>但是我要真有了这个钱</s>
<time>526_00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,920</time>
<s>我想我的心理是那种</s>
<time>527_00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,800</time>
<s>我怕别人知道</s>
<time>528_00:18:38,160 --> 00:18:39,600</time>
<s>我觉得有不安全</s>
<time>529_00:18:40,680 --> 00:18:41,760</time>
<s>所以我有时候</s>
<time>530_00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:43,200</time>
<s>也挺不能理解的</s>
<time>531_00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:45,360</time>
<s>就是你为什么想让别人知道呢</s>
<time>532_00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,600</time>
<s>我检讨一下</s>
<time>533_00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,480</time>
<s>我第一次去凡尔赛的经历</s>
<time>534_00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,280</time>
<s>也许这个是一个凡尔赛</s>
<time>535_00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:54,360</time>
<s>你们看看是不是</s>
<time>536_00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:55,440</time>
<s>凡尔赛这个词</s>
<time>537_00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:57,240</time>
<s>就跟凡尔赛宫有关系</s>
<time>538_00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480</time>
<s>我那天是在下午两点多钟</s>
<time>539_00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,560</time>
<s>还在尼斯</s>
<time>540_00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:04,440</time>
<s>定了一个巴黎的酒店</s>
<time>541_00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:05,520</time>
<s>他们说路上七个小时</s>
<time>542_00:19:06,600 --> 00:19:08,760</time>
<s>但是我这个路上一路耽误</s>
<time>543_00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,280</time>
<s>开到里昂的时候</s>
<time>544_00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,440</time>
<s>虽然天还亮着</s>
<time>545_00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:14,520</time>
<s>但已经八点多了</s>
<time>546_00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:15,600</time>
<s>你知道夏天的法国就是这样</s>
<time>547_00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:16,680</time>
<s>八点多了</s>
<time>548_00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:19,200</time>
<s>等我吃完饭以后再开</s>
<time>549_00:19:19,560 --> 00:19:21,360</time>
<s>余下来就黑乎乎了</s>
<time>550_00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,520</time>
<s>这一路这是我记忆当中</s>
<time>551_00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:24,600</time>
<s>我开得最辛苦的一段</s>
<time>552_00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,560</time>
<s>很巨大的那个集装箱的车</s>
<time>553_00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:30,360</time>
<s>我要一个一个超过它们</s>
<time>554_00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:31,440</time>
<s>就这样</s>
<time>555_00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:32,520</time>
<s>我快睡着了</s>
<time>556_00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,320</time>
<s>我真的是很危险</s>
<time>557_00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:35,400</time>
<s>结果怎么度过呢</s>
<time>558_00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:36,480</time>
<s>就跟我女儿</s>
<time>559_00:19:36,840 --> 00:19:37,560</time>
<s>我女儿那时候很小</s>
<time>560_00:19:37,920 --> 00:19:38,640</time>
<s>不到十岁</s>
<time>561_00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,520</time>
<s>跟她讲中文的这个量词</s>
<time>562_00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,200</time>
<s>比方说皮带为什么是一条</s>
<time>563_00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:47,640</time>
<s>而不是一根</s>
<time>564_00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:48,720</time>
<s>可不可以讲一根</s>
<time>565_00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:50,520</time>
<s>鞋为什么是一双</s>
<time>566_00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:51,600</time>
<s>你知道</s>
<time>567_00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,480</time>
<s>这个她问下来以后</s>
<time>568_00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:56,280</time>
<s>真是发现中文的量词</s>
<time>569_00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:58,800</time>
<s>是非常多很复杂</s>
<time>570_00:19:59,160 --> 00:20:00,240</time>
<s>而且有的还不大讲道理</s>
<time>571_00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:01,680</time>
<s>为什么人是一个</s>
<time>572_00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:03,840</time>
<s>羊是一只或者说</s>
<time>573_00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:06,720</time>
<s>还有这个一条命等等</s>
<time>574_00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:10,320</time>
<s>一把声音等等</s>
<time>575_00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:11,400</time>
<s>靠这个东西</s>
<time>576_00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:13,560</time>
<s>使我在半夜十二点前</s>
<time>577_00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:14,280</time>
<s>开到了巴黎</s>
<time>578_00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,520</time>
<s>围绕着那个铁塔还很亮</s>
<time>579_00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,320</time>
<s>还是走错路</s>
<time>580_00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,560</time>
<s>居然糊里糊涂半夜的时候开到了凡尔赛</s>
<time>581_00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:25,440</time>
<s>开到了凡尔赛</s>
<time>582_00:20:25,800 --> 00:20:26,160</time>
<s>开到那里</s>
<time>583_00:20:26,520 --> 00:20:28,680</time>
<s>那当然半夜是没有车没有人</s>
<time>584_00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:30,120</time>
<s>然后再开回来</s>
<time>585_00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:31,200</time>
<s>快一点了</s>
<time>586_00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:32,640</time>
<s>终于住进了旅馆</s>
<time>587_00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,160</time>
<s>这是我第一次去凡尔赛</s>
<time>588_00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:35,880</time>
<s>也没有进去</s>
<time>589_00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:38,760</time>
<s>我这段故事算不算凡尔赛</s>
<time>590_00:20:39,120 --> 00:20:39,480</time>
<s>挺算的</s>
<time>591_00:20:39,840 --> 00:20:40,560</time>
<s>有点儿凡尔赛</s>
<time>592_00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,360</time>
<s>那家伙感觉你能去那儿</s>
<time>593_00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,440</time>
<s>法国旅游去</s>
<time>594_00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:44,880</time>
<s>而且是二十多年前</s>
<time>595_00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:46,320</time>
<s>二十多年前</s>
<time>596_00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:47,760</time>
<s>我们多穷啊</s>
<time>597_00:20:48,120 --> 00:20:49,200</time>
<s>你都能去法国了</s>
<time>598_00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:49,920</time>
<s>这个凡尔赛吧</s>
<time>599_00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:51,000</time>
<s>光机票得多少钱啊</s>
<time>600_00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,440</time>
<s>而且这个家庭教育多厉害</s>
<time>601_00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,240</time>
<s>但是所有的事情都是真的</s>
<time>602_00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:56,400</time>
<s>没有一件事情是夸张的</s>
<time>603_00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:58,200</time>
<s>全部是真的</s>
<time>604_00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,800</time>
<s>跟真假无关</s>
<time>605_00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,320</time>
<s>对为什么人会喜欢要凡尔赛</s>
<time>606_00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:05,400</time>
<s>我也没有很好的答案</s>
<time>607_00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,120</time>
<s>但我猜</s>
<time>608_00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:07,560</time>
<s>因为人类的很多行为</s>
<time>609_00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,440</time>
<s>你都可以从奖赏机制来解释</s>
<time>610_00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:12,600</time>
<s>就是说会不会这个东西</s>
<time>611_00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:14,400</time>
<s>会对一个人形成一个奖赏机制</s>
<time>612_00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:15,480</time>
<s>我才这么做</s>
<time>613_00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:19,440</time>
<s>比方说人家说一个人</s>
<time>614_00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,680</time>
<s>为什么他会喜欢长得漂亮的人</s>
<time>615_00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:24,480</time>
<s>因为那个人的美貌对你是奖赏</s>
<time>616_00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,280</time>
<s>或者你会喜欢对你有帮助的人</s>
<time>617_00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:28,440</time>
<s>因为他的帮助对你是奖赏</s>
<time>618_00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:29,520</time>
<s>那么会不会就是说</s>
<time>619_00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:30,240</time>
<s>凡尔赛的人</s>
<time>620_00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,400</time>
<s>他就知道我会收获很多</s>
<time>621_00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:33,480</time>
<s>艳美的目光</s>
<time>622_00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:36,360</time>
<s>我会收获大家虽然嫉妒恨</s>
<time>623_00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:37,080</time>
<s>但是别人会</s>
<time>624_00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:39,240</time>
<s>就那一下</s>
<time>625_00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:41,400</time>
<s>为什么有的人他去</s>
<time>626_00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:43,200</time>
<s>因为我觉得很多人说</s>
<time>627_00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:44,640</time>
<s>他买了那种跑车什么</s>
<time>628_00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:46,440</time>
<s>到街上开</s>
<time>629_00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,600</time>
<s>或者把那个车刷成很炫的样子</s>
<time>630_00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:51,480</time>
<s>就是很炫的那个颜色的开</s>
<time>631_00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:53,640</time>
<s>我老想他坐在车里又看不见</s>
<time>632_00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:55,800</time>
<s>但是他脑子里闪过的</s>
<time>633_00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:56,520</time>
<s>都是一路上</s>
<time>634_00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,680</time>
<s>大家张大了嘴的那种艳羡</s>
<time>635_00:21:59,040 --> 00:21:59,760</time>
<s>那种回头率</s>
<time>636_00:22:00,120 --> 00:22:00,840</time>
<s>会不会他觉得</s>
<time>637_00:22:01,200 --> 00:22:03,360</time>
<s>一凡尔赛就是收获这样的奖赏</s>
<time>638_00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:04,440</time>
<s>就说人需要这个</s>
<time>639_00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:06,600</time>
<s>我觉得需要</s>
<time>640_00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:08,400</time>
<s>我觉得凡尔赛更多的是</s>
<time>641_00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,640</time>
<s>从评判者的角度来决定</s>
<time>642_00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:12,720</time>
<s>他是不是凡尔赛</s>
<time>643_00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:15,240</time>
<s>他必须有角色的差异</s>
<time>644_00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,400</time>
<s>刚才包括许老师说的这个</s>
<time>645_00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,200</time>
<s>他去国外早</s>
<time>646_00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,080</time>
<s>这个没有什么特别的</s>
<time>647_00:22:23,520 --> 00:22:24,240</time>
<s>你觉得得有差别</s>
<time>648_00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,400</time>
<s>和自己的人设</s>
<time>649_00:22:28,560 --> 00:22:30,360</time>
<s>或者大家知道的这个人设</s>
<time>650_00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:35,400</time>
<s>我是做美食的</s>
<time>651_00:22:35,760 --> 00:22:37,200</time>
<s>我可以说</s>
<time>652_00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:38,640</time>
<s>这个包子它怎么做得好</s>
<time>653_00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:40,440</time>
<s>它怎么怎么</s>
<time>654_00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,240</time>
<s>不会说他凡尔赛</s>
<time>655_00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,400</time>
<s>对肯定不会说我凡尔赛</s>
<time>656_00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:46,200</time>
<s>如果我说</s>
<time>657_00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:50,520</time>
<s>这个红酒</s>
<time>658_00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:52,680</time>
<s>我在里边喝出了</s>
<time>659_00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,400</time>
<s>什么什么的味道</s>
<time>660_00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:54,480</time>
<s>包子的味道</s>
<time>661_00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:56,640</time>
<s>我甚至觉得有地中海的海风</s>
<time>662_00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:59,160</time>
<s>那大家可能就觉得</s>
<time>663_00:22:59,880 --> 00:23:01,320</time>
<s>这个人不是做那个</s>
<time>664_00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,120</time>
<s>老百姓吃的那些东西的吗</s>
<time>665_00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:04,560</time>
<s>他怎么说这个</s>
<time>666_00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:05,280</time>
<s>那还缺一个因素</s>
<time>667_00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:06,360</time>
<s>你没撒娇</s>
<time>668_00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,440</time>
<s>对对对</s>
<time>669_00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:08,520</time>
<s>你还得怨</s>
<time>670_00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,600</time>
<s>对对对得怨</s>
<time>671_00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,200</time>
<s>对还以为我品不出来</s>
<time>672_00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,360</time>
<s>其实我只差一种味道</s>
<time>673_00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:16,440</time>
<s>没有品出来</s>
<time>674_00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:20,400</time>
<s>这可能就会有一些凡尔赛</s>
<time>675_00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,840</time>
<s>所以讲的人</s>
<time>676_00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:23,640</time>
<s>不管他有意无意</s>
<time>677_00:23:24,360 --> 00:23:26,880</time>
<s>他其实是英文说法self-cultivation</s>
<time>678_00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:27,960</time>
<s>对不对</s>
<time>679_00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:29,040</time>
<s>比较有修养地</s>
<time>680_00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:30,840</time>
<s>来表达自己的优越感</s>
<time>681_00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,000</time>
<s>比较复杂地有层次的</s>
<time>682_00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,600</time>
<s>或先抑后扬地等等等等</s>
<time>683_00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:38,040</time>
<s>但重要的是</s>
<time>684_00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,840</time>
<s>凡尔赛这个词说的人</s>
<time>685_00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:42,720</time>
<s>是吃瓜群众</s>
<time>686_00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:43,800</time>
<s>是围观的人</s>
<time>687_00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:44,880</time>
<s>重要的讨论的</s>
<time>688_00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:47,760</time>
<s>不是这个说的人的说话技巧</s>
<time>689_00:23:48,120 --> 00:23:50,280</time>
<s>而是民众的这种情绪</s>
<time>690_00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,800</time>
<s>我觉得这个才是最大的关键</s>
<time>691_00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:54,240</time>
<s>就是为什么这个人</s>
<time>692_00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:55,680</time>
<s>这样的一个说法</s>
<time>693_00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:57,840</time>
<s>大家会很反感</s>
<time>694_00:23:58,200 --> 00:23:59,640</time>
<s>就比你直接晒</s>
<time>695_00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,720</time>
<s>比你明星</s>
<time>696_00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,160</time>
<s>我晒衣服晒什么</s>
<time>697_00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:03,960</time>
<s>还要反感呢</s>
<time>698_00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:05,040</time>
<s>那是一个低级的</s>
<time>699_00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,840</time>
<s>它就不会叫凡尔赛了</s>
<time>700_00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:08,280</time>
<s>对那就叫炫耀</s>
<time>701_00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,800</time>
<s>但经常网上翻车的有些事件</s>
<time>702_00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:11,880</time>
<s>就是这样</s>
<time>703_00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:12,960</time>
<s>他可能晒了一个照片</s>
<time>704_00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:14,040</time>
<s>或者说了个什么事儿</s>
<time>705_00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,200</time>
<s>他无意在炫耀</s>
<time>706_00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:17,280</time>
<s>他就是好好说那件事儿</s>
<time>707_00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:18,360</time>
<s>被大家发现了</s>
<time>708_00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,240</time>
<s>其实你这个穿的衣服</s>
<time>709_00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:21,960</time>
<s>是多少多少钱或者</s>
<time>710_00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:25,560</time>
<s>特别是还要用有技巧的方法来炫</s>
<time>711_00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,720</time>
<s>那也不能这么说</s>
<time>712_00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:30,240</time>
<s>你像刚才我举的钟南山的例子</s>
<time>713_00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:32,400</time>
<s>那就是它是一种修辞</s>
<time>714_00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,280</time>
<s>就是指的你</s>
<time>715_00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800</time>
<s>就是有意无意地</s>
<time>716_00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,240</time>
<s>用一种幽怨的语气</s>
<time>717_00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:40,320</time>
<s>流露自己的优越感</s>
<time>718_00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:42,480</time>
<s>那就是说还是赞同他的</s>
<time>719_00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,200</time>
<s>觉得他好的</s>
<time>720_00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,720</time>
<s>对有的时候凡尔赛引起的</s>
<time>721_00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,240</time>
<s>我认为倒不见得是仇恨</s>
<time>722_00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:49,320</time>
<s>现在这个词儿</s>
<time>723_00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,480</time>
<s>充分使用以后</s>
<time>724_00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,560</time>
<s>它不一定是仇恨</s>
<time>725_00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,360</time>
<s>也是朋友聊天的一个乐趣</s>
<time>726_00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:56,160</time>
<s>你看有时候你又</s>
<time>727_00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:57,600</time>
<s>你又瑟了</s>
<time>728_00:24:57,960 --> 00:24:59,400</time>
<s>你又忍不住有点儿小瑟</s>
<time>729_00:24:59,760 --> 00:25:01,200</time>
<s>跟瑟有点像</s>
<time>730_00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:03,360</time>
<s>有技巧的瑟</s>
<time>731_00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,800</time>
<s>瑟这个词也很难</s>
<time>732_00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320</time>
<s>这是北京的方言吧</s>
<time>733_00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:08,400</time>
<s>上海话没有这个说法</s>
<time>734_00:25:08,760 --> 00:25:09,480</time>
<s>还是东北方言呢</s>
<time>735_00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,560</time>
<s>这个意思</s>
<time>736_00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,280</time>
<s>上海话没有这么讲</s>
<time>737_00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:12,000</time>
<s>嘻嘎嘎</s>
<time>738_00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:13,800</time>
<s>是不是有点</s>
<time>739_00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:17,760</time>
<s>我们俩有点凡尔赛</s>
<time>740_00:25:18,120 --> 00:25:19,920</time>
<s>好像我们俩达成了某种共识</s>
<time>741_00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:20,640</time>
<s>那你再想</s>
<time>742_00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,080</time>
<s>什么样的人</s>
<time>743_00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:24,960</time>
<s>需要流露优越感</s>
<time>744_00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:26,400</time>
<s>其实你想到没有</s>
<time>745_00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:27,840</time>
<s>咱要正经地来说</s>
<time>746_00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,000</time>
<s>他要是用一种幽怨的</s>
<time>747_00:25:30,360 --> 00:25:32,880</time>
<s>或者说是希望能够不着痕迹的</s>
<time>748_00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,040</time>
<s>那至少说明他还有点儿害羞</s>
<time>749_00:25:36,120 --> 00:25:37,560</time>
<s>比直接地说</s>
<time>750_00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,640</time>
<s>我有钱对吧</s>
<time>751_00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,800</time>
<s>不幽怨的杀伤力更大</s>
<time>752_00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:43,320</time>
<s>因为你所谓美而不自知更美</s>
<time>753_00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:47,640</time>
<s>那他就是优越了而还抱怨对吧</s>
<time>754_00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,080</time>
<s>就杀伤力更大</s>
<time>755_00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,680</time>
<s>晓卿你会有这种</s>
<time>756_00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560</time>
<s>跟别人相比的失落感吗</s>
<time>757_00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:57,720</time>
<s>我应该少</s>
<time>758_00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,960</time>
<s>就是也不可能说完全不会</s>
<time>759_00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:04,920</time>
<s>你会跟别的纪录片的大师</s>
<time>760_00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,000</time>
<s>或者说是团队</s>
<time>761_00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,040</time>
<s>纪录片圈倒是不多</s>
<time>762_00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:12,120</time>
<s>但是可能</s>
<time>763_00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:12,840</time>
<s>这也是凡尔赛</s>
<time>764_00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:15,000</time>
<s>这种话</s>
<time>765_00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,800</time>
<s>这种话说出来</s>
<time>766_00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:18,240</time>
<s>跟我他不敢是吧</s>
<time>767_00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:20,040</time>
<s>这种话说出来</s>
<time>768_00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:21,840</time>
<s>真的太厉害了</s>
<time>769_00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:22,920</time>
<s>有一个</s>
<time>770_00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:26,160</time>
<s>东北凡尔赛</s>
<time>771_00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:30,120</time>
<s>就是说先说一个人</s>
<time>772_00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:30,840</time>
<s>比如说这个人</s>
<time>773_00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,000</time>
<s>速谁打谁</s>
<time>774_00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,960</time>
<s>那你还跟他是朋友</s>
<time>775_00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,040</time>
<s>跟我他不敢</s>
<time>776_00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:42,360</time>
<s>要绕一下高级一点</s>
<time>777_00:26:43,800 --> 00:26:45,240</time>
<s>我没有这个意思</s>
<time>778_00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:48,120</time>
<s>就是在同行这儿</s>
<time>779_00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,000</time>
<s>我很少有这种比</s>
<time>780_00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:52,080</time>
<s>但是我的感受</s>
<time>781_00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:53,880</time>
<s>往往跟大家不一样</s>
<time>782_00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:54,600</time>
<s>你比方说</s>
<time>783_00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,120</time>
<s>说财务自由这件事情</s>
<time>784_00:26:57,480 --> 00:26:58,920</time>
<s>是不工作了以后</s>
<time>785_00:27:00,360 --> 00:27:03,240</time>
<s>能很平安地走到人生的终点</s>
<time>786_00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:05,400</time>
<s>我都没有办法想象</s>
<time>787_00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:06,120</time>
<s>我不工作以后</s>
<time>788_00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,720</time>
<s>我真的我不是凡尔赛</s>
<time>789_00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:10,800</time>
<s>这好凡尔赛</s>
<time>790_00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:14,040</time>
<s>我认同你的观点</s>
<time>791_00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,920</time>
<s>这是假做真时真亦假的凡尔赛</s>
<time>792_00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:18,000</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>793_00:27:18,360 --> 00:27:19,080</time>
<s>他说的是真话</s>
<time>794_00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,880</time>
<s>他说的我相信他是真话</s>
<time>795_00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:22,320</time>
<s>但是其效果就是</s>
<time>796_00:27:22,680 --> 00:27:24,480</time>
<s>就是工作带给他如此大的乐趣</s>
<time>797_00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:25,920</time>
<s>连金钱都敌不过</s>
<time>798_00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:28,800</time>
<s>而且最重要的是他不会退休</s>
<time>799_00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:30,240</time>
<s>你知道这个多厉害</s>
<time>800_00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:32,040</time>
<s>很多人到了一定的时候</s>
<time>801_00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:33,840</time>
<s>退休是一个坎儿</s>
<time>802_00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,000</time>
<s>但是你拍片就可以一直拍</s>
<time>803_00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:37,800</time>
<s>身体也够好的</s>
<time>804_00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,760</time>
<s>不我认识的很多的前辈都是</s>
<time>805_00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,920</time>
<s>你比如说比较简单</s>
<time>806_00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:44,640</time>
<s>大卫·爱登堡圆果派</s>
<time>807_00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:45,360</time>
<s>95岁圆果派</s>
<time>808_00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:47,160</time>
<s>一对大卫·爱登堡圆果派</s>
<time>809_00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:48,960</time>
<s>大卫·爱登堡就是圆果派</s>
<time>810_00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:50,400</time>
<s>我认识的一个阅果派</s>
<time>811_00:27:52,200 --> 00:27:54,000</time>
<s>就是《地球脉动》的制片人</s>
<time>812_00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:55,800</time>
<s>叫迈克尔·冈顿</s>
<time>813_00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:01,200</time>
<s>这个冈顿他入BBC的时候</s>
<time>814_00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,080</time>
<s>第一课就是</s>
<time>815_00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:06,240</time>
<s>大卫·爱登堡跟他说的</s>
<time>816_00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,200</time>
<s>你们到了BBC的地球坞</s>
<time>817_00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,720</time>
<s>你们将面对着这个美丽的地球</s>
<time>818_00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:18,120</time>
<s>未来是你们的</s>
<time>819_00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000</time>
<s>就是我很快就要退休了</s>
<time>820_00:28:21,360 --> 00:28:22,800</time>
<s>冈顿去年就退休了</s>
<time>821_00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:24,240</time>
<s>爱登堡还在拍片</s>
<time>822_00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,920</time>
<s>那我特别崇敬的一个</s>
<time>823_00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:30,720</time>
<s>纪录片导演</s>
<time>824_00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,880</time>
<s>叫让·鲁什</s>
<time>825_00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:33,960</time>
<s>是一个法国</s>
<time>826_00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840</time>
<s>我们说的人类学电影的鼻祖</s>
<time>827_00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:39,360</time>
<s>五十年代就拍了很多的</s>
<time>828_00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:40,080</time>
<s>什么《猎河马》</s>
<time>829_00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:41,160</time>
<s>《我是一个黑人》</s>
<time>830_00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,040</time>
<s>一大堆的这种纪录片</s>
<time>831_00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:49,080</time>
<s>他就是八十多岁的时候</s>
<time>832_00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,960</time>
<s>在非洲遇到车祸去世的</s>
<time>833_00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:54,120</time>
<s>小川绅介</s>
<time>834_00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,920</time>
<s>日本的最厉害的</s>
<time>835_00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:59,160</time>
<s>就是大家最有名的纪录片导演</s>
<time>836_00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:00,240</time>
<s>在他人生的最后时刻</s>
<time>837_00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:04,200</time>
<s>还在要看那个剪辑的效果</s>
<time>838_00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,080</time>
<s>这个我觉得</s>
<time>839_00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:12,120</time>
<s>我一方面我很崇敬这些前辈</s>
<time>840_00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,000</time>
<s>能够让自己的生命</s>
<time>841_00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,440</time>
<s>延续到这么晚</s>
<time>842_00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:21,840</time>
<s>同时我从自己内心说</s>
<time>843_00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,000</time>
<s>我特别渴望</s>
<time>844_00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:26,880</time>
<s>别人需要我的那种感受</s>
<time>845_00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,840</time>
<s>如果没有人再需要我了</s>
<time>846_00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,960</time>
<s>没有人再需要我的创造力</s>
<time>847_00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:38,400</time>
<s>我觉得这真是一件</s>
<time>848_00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:39,120</time>
<s>挺可悲的事儿</s>
<time>849_00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:40,920</time>
<s>这么说还凡尔赛吗</s>
<time>850_00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:42,000</time>
<s>这是很真诚的凡尔赛</s>
<time>851_00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:43,800</time>
<s>好吧</s>
<time>852_00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:45,960</time>
<s>好我听出了童年的不幸</s>
<time>853_00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:48,120</time>
<s>为什么</s>
<time>854_00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:50,280</time>
<s>我觉得这个有点儿</s>
<time>855_00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:53,160</time>
<s>以别人对自己的需要感</s>
<time>856_00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:53,880</time>
<s>是的</s>
<time>857_00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,680</time>
<s>就有人需要我</s>
<time>858_00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,280</time>
<s>你的人生价值呢对吧</s>
<time>859_00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,720</time>
<s>我没有真的没有</s>
<time>860_00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:01,440</time>
<s>这个就是人生价值</s>
<time>861_00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,320</time>
<s>这个几乎是所有读书人</s>
<time>862_00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,480</time>
<s>或者说专业人士</s>
<time>863_00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:08,280</time>
<s>共同的一个愿望</s>
<time>864_00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:11,160</time>
<s>就是我的东西还有用</s>
<time>865_00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320</time>
<s>我在这个世界上还有用</s>
<time>866_00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,840</time>
<s>这个是一个生命的价值</s>
<time>867_00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:17,280</time>
<s>工作是他最大的乐趣</s>
<time>868_00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:19,080</time>
<s>不我在另外一个地方讲过</s>
<time>869_00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,160</time>
<s>也不是说是最大乐趣</s>
<time>870_00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:21,960</time>
<s>工作充满了痛苦</s>
<time>871_00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:25,200</time>
<s>当你没有它的时候</s>
<time>872_00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,000</time>
<s>你会知道它的重要更痛苦</s>
<time>873_00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,040</time>
<s>在我五十多岁的这个人生里面</s>
<time>874_00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,200</time>
<s>有三年是没有拍一个片</s>
<time>875_00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,160</time>
<s>我跟别人也说</s>
<time>876_00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:39,240</time>
<s>我年轻的时候</s>
<time>877_00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:40,680</time>
<s>特别想成名</s>
