<time>870_00:26:16,489 --> 00:26:18,649</time>
<s>比方《重庆森林》</s>
<time>871_00:26:19,009 --> 00:26:21,165</time>
<s>他第一部的《旺角卡门》了</s>
<time>872_00:26:21,525 --> 00:26:24,045</time>
<s>那个叫什么</s>
<time>873_00:26:24,405 --> 00:26:25,485</time>
<s>那个张曼玉梁朝伟</s>
<time>874_00:26:25,845 --> 00:26:26,925</time>
<s>《花样年华》</s>
<time>875_00:26:27,285 --> 00:26:28,365</time>
<s>不是《花样年华》</s>
<time>876_00:26:28,725 --> 00:26:30,165</time>
<s>《花样年华》我很喜欢</s>
<time>877_00:26:30,525 --> 00:26:31,233</time>
<s>《一代宗师》我也很喜欢</s>
<time>878_00:26:32,673 --> 00:26:33,753</time>
<s>有的当然不喜欢了</s>
<time>879_00:26:34,113 --> 00:26:35,193</time>
<s>有的他自己都知道了</s>
<time>880_00:26:36,633 --> 00:26:38,073</time>
<s>但是那个老亏钱呢</s>
<time>881_00:26:38,433 --> 00:26:39,513</time>
<s>或者说拖着这个几年</s>
<time>882_00:26:39,873 --> 00:26:40,233</time>
<s>拍不成呢</s>
<time>883_00:26:40,593 --> 00:26:40,933</time>
<s>他后来</s>
<time>884_00:26:41,293 --> 00:26:42,013</time>
<s>从来都没怎么亏</s>
<time>885_00:26:42,373 --> 00:26:43,453</time>
<s>他后来都是亏自己的钱</s>
<time>886_00:26:44,533 --> 00:26:46,333</time>
<s>那你理人家什么呢</s>
<time>887_00:26:46,693 --> 00:26:49,213</time>
<s>人家自已找钱来亏</s>
<time>888_00:26:49,573 --> 00:26:50,653</time>
<s>那是人家的准则</s>
<time>889_00:26:52,088 --> 00:26:53,168</time>
<s>有一点这个晶哥</s>
<time>890_00:26:53,528 --> 00:26:54,608</time>
<s>这个很有意思</s>
<time>891_00:26:54,968 --> 00:26:56,408</time>
<s>他同时也是个投资的</s>
<time>892_00:26:56,768 --> 00:26:58,568</time>
<s>你比如说他自己拍电影</s>
<time>893_00:26:58,928 --> 00:27:00,728</time>
<s>就讲要赚钱对吗</s>
<time>894_00:27:01,076 --> 00:27:04,316</time>
<s>但是呢他投这个许鞍华的</s>
<time>895_00:27:04,676 --> 00:27:05,396</time>
<s>天水围的</s>
<time>896_00:27:05,756 --> 00:27:08,636</time>
<s>这个先是日与夜</s>
<time>897_00:27:08,996 --> 00:27:11,496</time>
<s>日与夜好像是打平了是吧</s>
<time>898_00:27:11,856 --> 00:27:12,936</time>
<s>日与夜差不多打平</s>
<time>899_00:27:13,296 --> 00:27:15,096</time>
<s>但是夜与雾是不是亏了</s>
<time>900_00:27:15,456 --> 00:27:15,816</time>
<s>亏了</s>
<time>901_00:27:16,176 --> 00:27:17,976</time>
<s>那你为什么又投资给</s>
<time>902_00:27:18,336 --> 00:27:18,696</time>
<s>这样的电影呢</s>
<time>903_00:27:20,856 --> 00:27:22,651</time>
<s>尊重专业我就是</s>
<time>904_00:27:23,011 --> 00:27:24,091</time>
<s>我是商业片的专业</s>
<time>905_00:27:24,451 --> 00:27:25,531</time>
<s>所以我一定</s>
<time>906_00:27:25,891 --> 00:27:28,051</time>
<s>要把商业片拍到极致</s>
<time>907_00:27:28,411 --> 00:27:29,851</time>
<s>可是我要支持拍艺术片的人</s>
<time>908_00:27:30,211 --> 00:27:32,358</time>
<s>把艺术片拍到极致</s>
<time>909_00:27:32,718 --> 00:27:33,078</time>
<s>那你就不是一个</s>
<time>910_00:27:33,438 --> 00:27:34,158</time>
<s>专业的投资人了</s>
<time>911_00:27:35,238 --> 00:27:35,598</time>
<s>是</s>
<time>912_00:27:36,318 --> 00:27:38,118</time>
<s>投资人来说我并不专业</s>
<time>913_00:27:40,278 --> 00:27:40,998</time>
<s>那这是有情怀</s>
<time>914_00:27:43,138 --> 00:27:43,858</time>
<s>有时候有</s>
<time>915_00:27:44,938 --> 00:27:46,378</time>
<s>有时候有</s>
<time>916_00:27:47,818 --> 00:27:48,178</time>
<s>当时是怎么想</s>
<time>917_00:27:48,538 --> 00:27:49,618</time>
<s>要投这种电影</s>
<time>918_00:27:50,698 --> 00:27:52,853</time>
<s>没有当时就是没有人投</s>
<time>919_00:27:53,213 --> 00:27:53,933</time>
<s>我就来投吧</s>
<time>920_00:27:54,293 --> 00:27:55,373</time>
<s>许鞍华那个人是那么好的导演</s>
<time>921_00:27:55,733 --> 00:27:57,533</time>
<s>怎么不应该没有人投</s>
<time>922_00:27:57,893 --> 00:28:00,773</time>
<s>那我反正能投得起就投呗</s>
<time>923_00:28:01,133 --> 00:28:02,561</time>
<s>而且天水围是一种典型的</s>
<time>924_00:28:02,921 --> 00:28:03,641</time>
<s>香港人的情绪</s>
<time>925_00:28:04,001 --> 00:28:04,361</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>926_00:28:04,721 --> 00:28:05,441</time>
<s>而且不是很贵</s>
<time>927_00:28:05,801 --> 00:28:07,601</time>
<s>太贵我就没办法了</s>
<time>928_00:28:07,961 --> 00:28:09,041</time>
<s>她现在拍戏都很贵了</s>
<time>929_00:28:09,401 --> 00:28:10,121</time>
<s>对没错</s>
<time>930_00:28:10,481 --> 00:28:11,540</time>
<s>我还记得她那个英文名字</s>
<time>931_00:28:11,900 --> 00:28:12,260</time>
<s>翻译得特别好</s>
<time>932_00:28:12,620 --> 00:28:13,700</time>
<s>叫作theWayweare</s>
<time>933_00:28:14,060 --> 00:28:14,780</time>
<s>是不是天水围</s>
<time>934_00:28:15,140 --> 00:28:16,220</time>
<s>那个很香港那个电影</s>
<time>935_00:28:16,580 --> 00:28:16,940</time>
<s>马上一种那个感觉就出来了</s>
<time>936_00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,020</time>
<s>香港那种共振</s>
<time>937_00:28:18,380 --> 00:28:19,820</time>
<s>马上就刚才讲共振就会出现</s>
<time>938_00:28:20,180 --> 00:28:20,900</time>
<s>所以我就看这个晶哥</s>
<time>939_00:28:21,260 --> 00:28:21,975</time>
<s>他这个挺有意思</s>
<time>940_00:28:22,335 --> 00:28:23,055</time>
<s>就是说呢</s>
<time>941_00:28:23,415 --> 00:28:25,215</time>
<s>你看就是咱们节目的</s>
<time>942_00:28:25,575 --> 00:28:26,295</time>
<s>曾经有一位嘉宾</s>
<time>943_00:28:26,655 --> 00:28:27,735</time>
<s>有一次聊起你</s>
<time>944_00:28:28,095 --> 00:28:29,535</time>
<s>就讲说都说这个王晶</s>
<time>945_00:28:29,895 --> 00:28:32,402</time>
<s>那个拍烂片对吧</s>
<time>946_00:28:32,762 --> 00:28:33,122</time>
<s>但是你知不知道</s>
<time>947_00:28:33,482 --> 00:28:34,202</time>
<s>他是香港电影</s>
<time>948_00:28:34,562 --> 00:28:35,642</time>
<s>一段很长时间的</s>
<time>949_00:28:36,002 --> 00:28:37,082</time>
<s>这个困难时期</s>
<time>950_00:28:37,442 --> 00:28:38,522</time>
<s>他养活了很多人</s>
<time>951_00:28:38,882 --> 00:28:39,602</time>
<s>甚至他就说</s>
<time>952_00:28:39,962 --> 00:28:41,042</time>
<s>就是说他</s>
<time>953_00:28:41,402 --> 00:28:43,901</time>
<s>如果没有所谓王晶的烂片</s>
<time>954_00:28:44,261 --> 00:28:45,341</time>
<s>也就养不出</s>
<time>955_00:28:45,701 --> 00:28:47,501</time>
<s>王家卫这样的片子</s>
<time>956_00:28:47,861 --> 00:28:49,661</time>
<s>说他是一个底</s>
<time>957_00:28:50,021 --> 00:28:51,101</time>
<s>但是后来我看你自己</s>
<time>958_00:28:51,461 --> 00:28:52,896</time>
<s>在某一种场合</s>
<time>959_00:28:53,256 --> 00:28:54,696</time>
<s>你也说到一个底的概念</s>
<time>960_00:28:55,056 --> 00:28:56,136</time>
<s>但是他说的底的概念</s>
<time>961_00:28:56,496 --> 00:28:58,656</time>
<s>反而是说他投这个艺术片</s>
<time>962_00:28:59,016 --> 00:29:02,243</time>
<s>他说这个电影需要有个底</s>
<time>963_00:29:02,603 --> 00:29:04,043</time>
<s>就实际上你觉得</s>
<time>964_00:29:04,403 --> 00:29:06,923</time>
<s>反倒是这些文艺片</s>
<time>965_00:29:07,283 --> 00:29:09,083</time>
<s>有某种电影的基础的这种作用</s>
<time>966_00:29:10,883 --> 00:29:15,542</time>
<s>我觉得每个人的解释都不一样</s>
<time>967_00:29:15,902 --> 00:29:18,062</time>
<s>每个人自己对这种状况的解释</s>
<time>968_00:29:18,422 --> 00:29:18,782</time>
<s>都不一样</s>
<time>969_00:29:19,142 --> 00:29:21,302</time>
<s>不过香港导演是很团结的</s>
<time>970_00:29:22,737 --> 00:29:24,177</time>
<s>香港导演就是</s>
<time>971_00:29:26,337 --> 00:29:28,857</time>
<s>一站在一起的时候呢</s>
<time>972_00:29:29,217 --> 00:29:32,084</time>
<s>都是互相提携互相尊重的</s>
<time>973_00:29:32,444 --> 00:29:34,244</time>
<s>就是本身有什么</s>
<time>974_00:29:34,604 --> 00:29:36,764</time>
<s>可能有什么私人恩怨</s>
<time>975_00:29:37,124 --> 00:29:38,924</time>
<s>都不会拿出来的</s>
<time>976_00:29:39,284 --> 00:29:40,364</time>
<s>都会收在一边的</s>
<time>977_00:29:40,724 --> 00:29:41,804</time>
<s>这个是挺</s>
<time>978_00:29:42,142 --> 00:29:43,942</time>
<s>我觉得作为一个香港导演</s>
<time>979_00:29:44,302 --> 00:29:45,382</time>
<s>我挺骄傲的</s>
<time>980_00:29:45,742 --> 00:29:47,542</time>
<s>那你现在不是老住在北京</s>
<time>981_00:29:48,982 --> 00:29:50,422</time>
<s>都有香港北京都有</s>
<time>982_00:29:50,782 --> 00:29:53,297</time>
<s>我觉得您这个最有资格讲讲了</s>
<time>983_00:29:53,657 --> 00:29:55,457</time>
<s>就是我一直觉得香港导演</s>
<time>984_00:29:55,817 --> 00:29:57,617</time>
<s>他合拍片或者现在很多</s>
<time>985_00:29:57,977 --> 00:29:59,777</time>
<s>都在内地发展的时候</s>
<time>986_00:30:00,137 --> 00:30:02,283</time>
<s>他觉得有什么拧巴吗</s>
<time>987_00:30:02,643 --> 00:30:03,003</time>
<s>就是</s>
<time>988_00:30:03,363 --> 00:30:05,163</time>
<s>我知道我知道你什么意思</s>
<time>989_00:30:05,523 --> 00:30:09,483</time>
<s>实在谁都会有这一段</s>
<time>990_00:30:09,843 --> 00:30:13,422</time>
<s>当你过去了那一段</s>
<time>991_00:30:13,782 --> 00:30:15,222</time>
<s>就没有拧巴了</s>
<time>992_00:30:15,582 --> 00:30:17,022</time>
<s>就是最主要就是</s>
<time>993_00:30:17,382 --> 00:30:20,262</time>
<s>你还没投入那个生活当中</s>
<time>994_00:30:20,622 --> 00:30:22,776</time>
<s>我现在我完全可以当作自己</s>
<time>995_00:30:23,136 --> 00:30:26,016</time>
<s>是一个北京人一样的过日子</s>
<time>996_00:30:26,376 --> 00:30:27,096</time>
<s>我不回去都行</s>
<time>997_00:30:27,456 --> 00:30:28,176</time>
<s>我有我的朋友</s>
<time>998_00:30:28,536 --> 00:30:29,256</time>
<s>我有我的圈子</s>
<time>999_00:30:31,056 --> 00:30:32,483</time>
<s>我有我的车</s>
<time>1000_00:30:32,843 --> 00:30:33,923</time>
<s>我有我的司机</s>
<time>1001_00:30:34,283 --> 00:30:36,443</time>
<s>我的公司什么都有</s>
<time>1002_00:30:36,803 --> 00:30:39,323</time>
<s>基本上我是可以</s>
<time>1003_00:30:39,683 --> 00:30:40,763</time>
<s>就是不回香港的</s>
<time>1004_00:30:42,203 --> 00:30:46,501</time>
<s>就是而且以前我的普通话</s>
<time>1005_00:30:46,861 --> 00:30:47,581</time>
<s>偏台湾音</s>
<time>1006_00:30:47,941 --> 00:30:49,381</time>
<s>现在基本上都没了</s>
<time>1007_00:30:51,901 --> 00:30:53,695</time>
<s>你看但是在电影创作上</s>
<time>1008_00:30:54,055 --> 00:30:55,135</time>
<s>刚才他讲到有个同情</s>
<time>1009_00:30:55,495 --> 00:30:56,575</time>
<s>你跟一个地区的人</s>
<time>1010_00:30:56,935 --> 00:30:58,375</time>
<s>你同情共感的问题</s>
<time>1011_00:30:58,735 --> 00:31:00,175</time>
<s>那比如说喜剧呢</s>
<time>1012_00:31:00,535 --> 00:31:03,762</time>
<s>喜剧我觉得内地人的笑点</s>
<time>1013_00:31:04,122 --> 00:31:05,202</time>
<s>和香港人的笑点</s>
<time>1014_00:31:05,562 --> 00:31:06,642</time>
<s>是不是不太一样</s>
<time>1015_00:31:07,002 --> 00:31:08,082</time>
<s>你不觉得我这五六年</s>
<time>1016_00:31:08,442 --> 00:31:09,162</time>
<s>很少拍喜剧吗</s>
<time>1017_00:31:11,322 --> 00:31:13,100</time>
<s>所以他真是个商人的思维</s>
<time>1018_00:31:13,460 --> 00:31:13,820</time>
<s>避实击虚</s>
<time>1019_00:31:14,180 --> 00:31:15,980</time>
<s>是不是更难要掌握这个笑点</s>
<time>1020_00:31:19,220 --> 00:31:21,740</time>
<s>难一点没那么容易</s>
<time>1021_00:31:22,100 --> 00:31:27,134</time>
<s>因为大家用同一种共振长大的</s>
<time>1022_00:31:27,494 --> 00:31:28,934</time>
<s>终归是好一点的</s>
<time>1023_00:31:29,294 --> 00:31:30,734</time>
<s>对有一个科学研究就说</s>
<time>1024_00:31:31,094 --> 00:31:32,174</time>
<s>一人为什么会笑</s>
<time>1025_00:31:32,534 --> 00:31:33,600</time>
<s>里面最重要的一个就是说</s>
<time>1026_00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,760</time>
<s>人是跟熟人在一起</s>
<time>1027_00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,280</time>
<s>笑的几率比自己一个人</s>
<time>1028_00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:40,080</time>
<s>或者跟不认识人要大几十倍</s>
<time>1029_00:31:40,440 --> 00:31:41,880</time>
<s>你看我这两年都在拍</s>
<time>1030_00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:43,298</time>
<s>我《追龙1》《追龙2》</s>
<time>1031_00:31:43,658 --> 00:31:44,738</time>
<s>下面《追龙3》这样</s>
<time>1032_00:31:45,098 --> 00:31:47,258</time>
<s>一直追下去</s>
<time>1033_00:31:47,618 --> 00:31:48,698</time>
<s>都不拍喜剧的原因</s>
<time>1034_00:31:50,138 --> 00:31:50,858</time>
<s>比较难了</s>
<time>1035_00:31:51,218 --> 00:31:52,658</time>
<s>你找不到这个打通的共振</s>
<time>1036_00:31:53,012 --> 00:31:53,372</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>1037_00:31:53,732 --> 00:31:55,892</time>
<s>有可是怎么都没有别人好</s>
<time>1038_00:31:57,692 --> 00:31:58,772</time>
<s>没有就是没办法</s>
<time>1039_00:31:59,132 --> 00:32:00,572</time>
<s>好像麻花他们这样</s>
<time>1040_00:32:00,932 --> 00:32:03,438</time>
<s>做到那种情况</s>
<time>1041_00:32:03,798 --> 00:32:04,518</time>
<s>做不到的</s>
<time>1042_00:32:04,878 --> 00:32:05,958</time>
<s>按说你是研究喜剧</s>
<time>1043_00:32:06,318 --> 00:32:07,398</time>
<s>也等于研究了半辈子了</s>
<time>1044_00:32:07,758 --> 00:32:08,478</time>
<s>是</s>
<time>1045_00:32:08,838 --> 00:32:09,918</time>
<s>那你比如说香港代表的</s>
<time>1046_00:32:10,278 --> 00:32:11,718</time>
<s>就星爷的这种</s>
<time>1047_00:32:12,078 --> 00:32:13,136</time>
<s>所谓这个无厘头</s>
<time>1048_00:32:13,496 --> 00:32:14,936</time>
<s>但是星爷的《新喜剧之王》</s>
<time>1049_00:32:15,296 --> 00:32:16,376</time>
<s>你愿意评价吗</s>
<time>1050_00:32:16,736 --> 00:32:17,816</time>
<s>我挺喜欢的</s>
<time>1051_00:32:19,256 --> 00:32:19,616</time>
<s>怎么说</s>
<time>1052_00:32:19,976 --> 00:32:21,776</time>
<s>我觉得他搞得不错这一些</s>
<time>1053_00:32:22,136 --> 00:32:23,569</time>
<s>比之前两部戏都好</s>
<time>1054_00:32:23,929 --> 00:32:25,009</time>
<s>可是就是不吃</s>
<time>1055_00:32:25,369 --> 00:32:26,089</time>
<s>不吃就不吃了</s>
<time>1056_00:32:28,969 --> 00:32:30,049</time>
<s>你觉得他有没有这个共振</s>
<time>1057_00:32:30,409 --> 00:32:31,489</time>
<s>以我评分</s>
<time>1058_00:32:31,849 --> 00:32:33,995</time>
<s>比《西游·降魔篇》都好</s>
<time>1059_00:32:37,235 --> 00:32:37,595</time>
<s>那他有没有这个</s>
<time>1060_00:32:37,955 --> 00:32:39,035</time>
<s>比如像周星驰的电影</s>
<time>1061_00:32:39,395 --> 00:32:41,195</time>
<s>我觉得这个现象蛮特别</s>
<time>1062_00:32:41,555 --> 00:32:44,413</time>
<s>就那个时候他是为香港人拍的</s>
<time>1063_00:32:44,773 --> 00:32:46,933</time>
<s>但是后来被配音之后</s>
<time>1064_00:32:47,293 --> 00:32:48,733</time>
<s>反而在内地是</s>
<time>1065_00:32:49,093 --> 00:32:51,253</time>
<s>他从来不会为香港人拍</s>
<time>1066_00:32:51,613 --> 00:32:53,053</time>
<s>就一开始吧也是吗</s>
<time>1067_00:32:53,406 --> 00:32:54,486</time>
<s>他为钱拍而已</s>
<time>1068_00:32:54,846 --> 00:32:55,566</time>
<s>跟你一样吗</s>
<time>1069_00:32:55,926 --> 00:32:57,006</time>
<s>但我的意思就是说</s>
<time>1070_00:32:57,366 --> 00:32:59,526</time>
<s>那个笑点的掌握</s>
<time>1071_00:32:59,886 --> 00:33:01,326</time>
<s>他对什么叫好笑</s>
<time>1072_00:33:01,686 --> 00:33:02,406</time>
<s>那个东西的掌握</s>
<time>1073_00:33:02,766 --> 00:33:04,191</time>
<s>他也是由香港人身份来理解</s>
<time>1074_00:33:04,911 --> 00:33:07,071</time>
<s>那为什么内地的观众看了</s>
<time>1075_00:33:07,431 --> 00:33:08,511</time>
<s>也都觉得好笑呢</s>
<time>1076_00:33:09,951 --> 00:33:10,671</time>
<s>而且我觉得这些习惯</s>
<time>1077_00:33:11,031 --> 00:33:13,529</time>
<s>因为以前那种喜剧</s>
<time>1078_00:33:13,889 --> 00:33:15,329</time>
<s>基本上大部分都是动作</s>
<time>1079_00:33:16,409 --> 00:33:20,369</time>
<s>你看他的以前老的那批</s>
<time>1080_00:33:20,729 --> 00:33:22,169</time>
<s>我跟他合作的那些呢</s>
<time>1081_00:33:22,529 --> 00:33:25,762</time>
<s>有一些口语还是挺受欢迎的</s>
<time>1082_00:33:26,122 --> 00:33:29,002</time>
<s>他自己的多半吃的都是动作</s>
<time>1083_00:33:29,362 --> 00:33:30,442</time>
<s>而不是口语</s>
<time>1084_00:33:30,802 --> 00:33:31,162</time>
<s>你可以想想</s>
<time>1085_00:33:33,322 --> 00:33:35,468</time>
<s>比方说包租婆</s>
<time>1086_00:33:36,908 --> 00:33:38,348</time>
<s>你记得她有什么对白吗</s>
<time>1087_00:33:38,708 --> 00:33:39,788</time>
<s>你不记得</s>
<time>1088_00:33:40,148 --> 00:33:42,668</time>
<s>你记得她拿那个鞋在打人</s>
<time>1089_00:33:43,028 --> 00:33:46,605</time>
<s>你记得她那个狮吼功</s>
<time>1090_00:33:46,965 --> 00:33:49,125</time>
<s>你记得这些动作的东西</s>
<time>1091_00:33:49,485 --> 00:33:50,565</time>
<s>你不记得她任何对白</s>
<time>1092_00:33:52,365 --> 00:33:54,158</time>
<s>这靠表演</s>
<time>1093_00:33:55,598 --> 00:33:58,478</time>
<s>你觉得他是这个最好的喜剧演员</s>
<time>1094_00:33:58,838 --> 00:34:00,998</time>
<s>是他从来都是</s>
<time>1095_00:34:01,358 --> 00:34:01,718</time>
<s>但是这一套</s>
<time>1096_00:34:02,078 --> 00:34:03,158</time>
<s>我估计这后面三十年</s>
<time>1097_00:34:03,518 --> 00:34:04,583</time>
<s>都很难有人追到他</s>
<time>1098_00:34:04,943 --> 00:34:05,663</time>
<s>是吗</s>
<time>1099_00:34:06,023 --> 00:34:06,383</time>
<s>沈腾呢</s>
<time>1100_00:34:07,463 --> 00:34:08,543</time>
<s>是另外一种</s>
<time>1101_00:34:08,903 --> 00:34:09,623</time>
<s>另外一种演员</s>
<time>1102_00:34:09,983 --> 00:34:10,343</time>
<s>跟他不一样</s>
<time>1103_00:34:10,703 --> 00:34:11,783</time>
<s>大家节奏都完全不同</s>
<time>1104_00:34:12,143 --> 00:34:13,920</time>
<s>你比如说您也是作为香港人</s>
<time>1105_00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,800</time>
<s>你看现在内地最火的喜剧</s>
<time>1106_00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:17,880</time>
<s>你笑吗</s>
<time>1107_00:34:18,240 --> 00:34:18,600</time>
<s>笑</s>
<time>1108_00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,040</time>
<s>你觉得你的反应</s>
<time>1109_00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:22,560</time>
<s>跟影院里的北京观众</s>
<time>1110_00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,713</time>
<s>是一样的吗同频的吗</s>
<time>1111_00:34:25,073 --> 00:34:26,153</time>
<s>未必可是我笑</s>
<time>1112_00:34:27,593 --> 00:34:29,033</time>
<s>它不是绝对对立的</s>
<time>1113_00:34:29,753 --> 00:34:32,633</time>
<s>那我看好莱坞片我都笑的</s>
<time>1114_00:34:34,418 --> 00:34:35,138</time>
<s>对不对</s>
<time>1115_00:34:35,858 --> 00:34:38,738</time>
<s>可是有时候你在美国的戏院</s>
<time>1116_00:34:39,098 --> 00:34:41,258</time>
<s>里面笑里面看</s>
<time>1117_00:34:41,618 --> 00:34:43,058</time>
<s>有的人狂笑</s>
<time>1118_00:34:43,418 --> 00:34:44,835</time>
<s>你都不知道他笑什么</s>
<time>1119_00:34:45,195 --> 00:34:48,075</time>
<s>但是为什么现在有些影评会讲</s>
<time>1120_00:34:48,435 --> 00:34:50,955</time>
<s>就是说当年星爷的那个是老梗</s>
<time>1121_00:34:51,315 --> 00:34:52,755</time>
<s>那些老梗现在再使出来</s>
<time>1122_00:34:53,115 --> 00:34:54,908</time>
<s>今天的观众变了什么的</s>
<time>1123_00:34:55,268 --> 00:34:59,228</time>
<s>影评界是从来是最没有</s>
<time>1124_00:34:59,588 --> 00:35:01,388</time>
<s>就是规格的</s>
<time>1125_00:35:02,468 --> 00:35:04,973</time>
<s>任何人都是影评人是不是</s>
<time>1126_00:35:05,333 --> 00:35:06,773</time>
<s>你不需要上一个课</s>
<time>1127_00:35:07,133 --> 00:35:09,293</time>
<s>或者拿到一个学位才是影评人</s>
<time>1128_00:35:09,653 --> 00:35:11,813</time>
<s>所以你为什么</s>
<time>1129_00:35:12,173 --> 00:35:12,893</time>
<s>举一个这样的例子呢</s>
<time>1130_00:35:13,253 --> 00:35:14,310</time>
<s>没有意义的</s>
<time>1131_00:35:14,670 --> 00:35:16,110</time>
<s>任何人都可以是影评人</s>
<time>1132_00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:17,910</time>
<s>有什么参考价值呢</s>
<time>1133_00:35:20,430 --> 00:35:22,230</time>
<s>他说这个还真有意思</s>
<time>1134_00:35:22,590 --> 00:35:23,670</time>
<s>我因为种种原因</s>
<time>1135_00:35:24,030 --> 00:35:26,182</time>
<s>我前两天才在那个收费电视上</s>
<time>1136_00:35:26,542 --> 00:35:28,342</time>
<s>看了这个《新喜剧之王》</s>
<time>1137_00:35:28,702 --> 00:35:31,222</time>
<s>因为之前都是说很多恶评</s>
<time>1138_00:35:31,582 --> 00:35:33,022</time>
<s>但是我看了的感觉</s>
<time>1139_00:35:33,382 --> 00:35:34,807</time>
<s>真是跟晶哥有点像</s>
<time>1140_00:35:35,167 --> 00:35:35,887</time>
<s>甚至我原来认为</s>
<time>1141_00:35:36,247 --> 00:35:38,047</time>
<s>他是很随便瞎拍的一个</s>
<time>1142_00:35:38,407 --> 00:35:38,767</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>1143_00:35:39,127 --> 00:35:40,207</time>
<s>但是我觉得挺认真的</s>
<time>1144_00:35:40,567 --> 00:35:42,727</time>
<s>他可能选角有一点错误</s>
<time>1145_00:35:43,087 --> 00:35:47,047</time>
<s>王宝强那个角色是有点放错了</s>
<time>1146_00:35:47,407 --> 00:35:49,207</time>
<s>如果调一调会好很多</s>
<time>1147_00:35:49,567 --> 00:35:50,287</time>
<s>而且我也注意到一个</s>
<time>1148_00:35:50,647 --> 00:35:51,007</time>
<s>就是他是个</s>
<time>1149_00:35:51,367 --> 00:35:51,727</time>
<s>他有他特有的</s>
<time>1150_00:35:52,087 --> 00:35:54,959</time>
<s>表演风格的问题很难代替</s>
<time>1151_00:35:55,319 --> 00:35:56,399</time>
<s>你找他的这个</s>
<time>1152_00:35:56,759 --> 00:35:57,839</time>
<s>他设计的很多东西</s>
<time>1153_00:35:58,199 --> 00:35:59,279</time>
<s>就是他说的</s>
<time>1154_00:35:59,639 --> 00:36:00,719</time>
<s>他的那种表演风格</s>
<time>1155_00:36:01,079 --> 00:36:02,159</time>
<s>生发出来的东西</s>
<time>1156_00:36:02,519 --> 00:36:04,663</time>
<s>但是要换了一个人呢好像</s>
<time>1157_00:36:05,383 --> 00:36:07,903</time>
<s>是因为他在当导演的时候呢</s>
<time>1158_00:36:08,263 --> 00:36:09,343</time>
<s>他真的会演一次给你看的</s>
<time>1159_00:36:09,703 --> 00:36:12,223</time>
<s>他就要你演成他那样一模一样</s>
<time>1160_00:36:12,583 --> 00:36:13,303</time>
<s>可是呢</s>
<time>1161_00:36:13,663 --> 00:36:14,023</time>
<s>谁演得到呢</s>
<time>1162_00:36:14,383 --> 00:36:16,183</time>
<s>可是呢就每个人都演不到</s>
<time>1163_00:36:16,543 --> 00:36:17,263</time>
<s>然后他就很生气</s>
<time>1164_00:36:18,703 --> 00:36:20,143</time>
<s>后来舒淇他们就故意</s>
<time>1165_00:36:20,503 --> 00:36:21,583</time>
<s>你演一次给我看</s>
<time>1166_00:36:21,943 --> 00:36:23,743</time>
<s>其实她就想看他演好笑</s>
<time>1167_00:36:24,103 --> 00:36:24,815</time>
<s>就是那样</s>
<time>1168_00:36:25,175 --> 00:36:26,615</time>
<s>那他为什么不于脆自己演了呢</s>
<time>1169_00:36:28,775 --> 00:36:30,935</time>
<s>一个人到了某一个年龄</s>
<time>1170_00:36:31,295 --> 00:36:32,015</time>
<s>面对不了自己</s>
<time>1171_00:36:33,095 --> 00:36:33,455</time>
<s>就这样</s>
<time>1172_00:36:34,535 --> 00:36:35,239</time>
<s>有尊严</s>
<time>1173_00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:36,319</time>
<s>我都演不了</s>
<time>1174_00:36:36,679 --> 00:36:37,759</time>
<s>不要说他了现在</s>
<time>1175_00:36:38,119 --> 00:36:39,559</time>
<s>是吗要体面了</s>
<time>1176_00:36:39,919 --> 00:36:41,719</time>
<s>不是就是到了一个年龄</s>
<time>1177_00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:42,799</time>
<s>你就做不了以前</s>
<time>1178_00:36:43,159 --> 00:36:43,879</time>
<s>年轻做的那些事情</s>
<time>1179_00:36:45,679 --> 00:36:46,039</time>
<s>能理解</s>
<time>1180_00:36:48,199 --> 00:36:49,639</time>
<s>就是现在我</s>
<time>1181_00:36:49,999 --> 00:36:52,159</time>
<s>我也不太想拍喜剧片的原因</s>
<time>1182_00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:53,959</time>
<s>是不好笑了吗</s>
<time>1183_00:36:55,031 --> 00:36:55,751</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>1184_00:36:56,111 --> 00:36:56,831</time>
<s>你想的事多了是不是觉得</s>
<time>1185_00:36:57,911 --> 00:36:59,711</time>
<s>我觉得我混了那么久了</s>
<time>1186_00:37:00,071 --> 00:37:01,871</time>
<s>我年龄到了这个份上了</s>
<time>1187_00:37:02,231 --> 00:37:02,951</time>
<s>我还要做那些</s>
<time>1188_00:37:03,311 --> 00:37:04,031</time>
<s>不要做那些了吧</s>
<time>1189_00:37:04,751 --> 00:37:05,455</time>
<s>那你觉得喜剧是一个阅某[看理想</s>
<time>1190_00:37:06,175 --> 00:37:06,535</time>
<s>比较初级的东西吗阅桌[看理想</s>
<time>1191_00:37:06,895 --> 00:37:07,255</time>
<s>比较初级的东西吗</s>
<time>1192_00:37:07,615 --> 00:37:07,975</time>
<s>不是不是</s>
<time>1193_00:37:08,335 --> 00:37:10,495</time>
<s>问题是你去演了你去搞</s>
<time>1194_00:37:10,855 --> 00:37:11,575</time>
<s>让年轻人去演了嘛</s>
<time>1195_00:37:13,375 --> 00:37:14,815</time>
<s>你老人家还去演</s>
<time>1196_00:37:15,534 --> 00:37:15,894</time>
<s>那伍迪·艾伦不是自己</s>
<time>1197_00:37:16,974 --> 00:37:19,134</time>
<s>那个伍迪·艾伦自己也在演</s>
<time>1198_00:37:19,854 --> 00:37:20,574</time>
<s>我觉得他好可岭</s>
<time>1199_00:37:21,654 --> 00:37:22,014</time>
<s>圆桌派看理想</s>
<time>1200_00:37:24,534 --> 00:37:25,606</time>
<s>它这个里边</s>
<time>1201_00:37:25,966 --> 00:37:28,126</time>
<s>其实都有个人生观的一个问题</s>
<time>1202_00:37:28,486 --> 00:37:29,926</time>
<s>你看我身边</s>
<time>1203_00:37:30,286 --> 00:37:32,446</time>
<s>我们熟悉的更多的是说导演</s>
<time>1204_00:37:32,806 --> 00:37:33,886</time>
<s>我要拍我心中的东西</s>
<time>1205_00:37:34,246 --> 00:37:35,670</time>
<s>我要讲我要讲的话对吧</s>
<time>1206_00:37:36,030 --> 00:37:37,830</time>
<s>就是我爱拍什么</s>
<time>1207_00:37:38,190 --> 00:37:38,550</time>
<s>但是我觉得</s>
<time>1208_00:37:38,910 --> 00:37:40,710</time>
<s>好像你在这个问题上没有困惑</s>
<time>1209_00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:41,430</time>
<s>就是</s>
<time>1210_00:37:42,870 --> 00:37:46,469</time>
<s>因为我把它当作我的职业生涯</s>
<time>1211_00:37:46,829 --> 00:37:47,189</time>
<s>职业</s>
<time>1212_00:37:47,549 --> 00:37:47,909</time>
<s>不是我的嗜好</s>
<time>1213_00:37:50,069 --> 00:37:52,229</time>
<s>不是我的嗜好</s>
<time>1214_00:37:52,589 --> 00:37:53,669</time>
<s>那你做得苦吗</s>
<time>1215_00:37:54,029 --> 00:37:54,389</time>
<s>不苦</s>
<time>1216_00:37:56,540 --> 00:37:57,260</time>
<s>做得开心吗</s>
<time>1217_00:37:58,700 --> 00:37:59,060</time>
<s>那为什么呢</s>
<time>1218_00:37:59,780 --> 00:38:01,220</time>
<s>一些不具备条件的</s>
<time>1219_00:38:01,580 --> 00:38:03,020</time>
<s>需要执笠的</s>
<time>1220_00:38:03,380 --> 00:38:04,460</time>
<s>执生</s>
<time>1221_00:38:05,884 --> 00:38:06,604</time>
<s>你很快做完很多事情</s>
<time>1222_00:38:06,964 --> 00:38:07,324</time>
<s>是不是有成就感</s>
<time>1223_00:38:08,044 --> 00:38:08,764</time>
<s>对啊你有成就感</s>
<time>1224_00:38:09,844 --> 00:38:10,204</time>
<s>achievement（成就）</s>
<time>1225_00:38:10,564 --> 00:38:11,644</time>
<s>就是那种</s>
<time>1226_00:38:12,004 --> 00:38:14,524</time>
<s>你专业专业就把它做好</s>
<time>1227_00:38:14,884 --> 00:38:15,603</time>
<s>就行了</s>
<time>1228_00:38:15,963 --> 00:38:18,123</time>
<s>你做好你就觉得开心了</s>
<time>1229_00:38:19,203 --> 00:38:20,283</time>
<s>那你说比如说这个</s>
<time>1230_00:38:20,643 --> 00:38:22,803</time>
<s>像这个研究这个喜剧</s>
<time>1231_00:38:23,163 --> 00:38:24,603</time>
<s>你觉得有什么规律吗</s>
<time>1232_00:38:24,963 --> 00:38:27,114</time>
<s>能把人逗笑了</s>
<time>1233_00:38:27,474 --> 00:38:31,434</time>
<s>实在在我入行七十年代</s>
<time>1234_00:38:31,794 --> 00:38:33,954</time>
<s>我们看都是看美国的那种</s>
<time>1235_00:38:34,314 --> 00:38:36,098</time>
<s>就是喜剧书</s>
<time>1236_00:38:36,458 --> 00:38:37,898</time>
<s>就是刚才她常提伍迪·艾伦</s>
<time>1237_00:38:38,258 --> 00:38:39,698</time>
<s>伍迪·艾伦当时写的</s>
<time>1238_00:38:40,058 --> 00:38:41,138</time>
<s>都还挺靠谱的</s>
<time>1239_00:38:41,498 --> 00:38:43,298</time>
<s>现在老了就乱七八糟了</s>
<time>1240_00:38:43,658 --> 00:38:46,177</time>
<s>当时写的书很多都很好的</s>
<time>1241_00:38:47,257 --> 00:38:48,697</time>
<s>然后你都会参考的</s>
<time>1242_00:38:49,057 --> 00:38:52,657</time>
<s>然后我们还看弗洛伊德</s>
<time>1243_00:38:54,097 --> 00:38:54,817</time>
<s>他有几本书是说</s>
<time>1244_00:38:55,177 --> 00:38:56,968</time>
<s>人怎么会笑的</s>
<time>1245_00:38:57,328 --> 00:38:59,488</time>
<s>因为你看现在你像我们电视界的</s>
<time>1246_00:38:59,848 --> 00:39:01,648</time>
<s>有的那个总监就说那样的话</s>
<time>1247_00:39:02,008 --> 00:39:03,088</time>
<s>就是说我估计现在这个</s>
<time>1248_00:39:03,448 --> 00:39:04,888</time>
<s>都是不是有点下去了</s>
<time>1249_00:39:05,248 --> 00:39:08,471</time>
<s>但是至少在最近这么几年内</s>
<time>1250_00:39:08,831 --> 00:39:12,431</time>
<s>就是说能把人逗乐的事情</s>
<time>1251_00:39:12,791 --> 00:39:13,511</time>
<s>到达了它现在</s>
<time>1252_00:39:13,871 --> 00:39:15,311</time>
<s>红利最高的一个时代</s>
<time>1253_00:39:16,030 --> 00:39:17,830</time>
<s>你看我们周围吧不管是</s>
<time>1254_00:39:18,190 --> 00:39:19,270</time>
<s>你只要真能把人逗笑</s>
<time>1255_00:39:19,630 --> 00:39:20,710</time>
<s>真的逗笑了</s>
<time>1256_00:39:21,070 --> 00:39:23,950</time>
<s>真是名利双收绝对发达</s>
<time>1257_00:39:24,310 --> 00:39:25,030</time>
<s>就是好像就是</s>
<time>1258_00:39:25,390 --> 00:39:26,101</time>
<s>我们从来没有</s>
<time>1259_00:39:26,821 --> 00:39:29,701</time>
<s>就是这么样的需要这个笑</s>
<time>1260_00:39:30,061 --> 00:39:32,221</time>
<s>应该说你要是从商业利益上来讲</s>
<time>1261_00:39:32,581 --> 00:39:34,741</time>
<s>能把人逗笑现在在中国</s>
<time>1262_00:39:35,101 --> 00:39:36,164</time>
<s>那是一等一的本事</s>
<time>1263_00:39:39,044 --> 00:39:40,484</time>
<s>中国也未必</s>
<time>1264_00:39:40,844 --> 00:39:41,564</time>
<s>中国道德观念</s>
<time>1265_00:39:41,924 --> 00:39:44,444</time>
<s>还是太比较强</s>
<time>1266_00:39:44,804 --> 00:39:46,603</time>
<s>然后我觉得</s>
<time>1267_00:39:48,403 --> 00:39:51,643</time>
<s>他们还是会维护正剧多一些</s>
<time>1268_00:39:52,003 --> 00:39:53,803</time>
<s>不然你郭德纲为什么长期</s>
<time>1269_00:39:54,163 --> 00:39:55,963</time>
<s>都会压在那个水平被人家</s>
<time>1270_00:39:56,313 --> 00:39:58,113</time>
<s>他逗乐逗得最多了吧</s>
<time>1271_00:40:00,633 --> 00:40:02,433</time>
<s>但是这个喜剧片票房这么好</s>
<time>1272_00:40:03,513 --> 00:40:04,593</time>
<s>他演得不行</s>
<time>1273_00:40:06,033 --> 00:40:06,736</time>
<s>就只有</s>
<time>1274_00:40:07,096 --> 00:40:08,536</time>
<s>现在就只有沈腾比较好</s>
<time>1275_00:40:09,616 --> 00:40:11,776</time>
<s>你看沈腾都开始不想演了</s>
<time>1276_00:40:12,136 --> 00:40:12,856</time>
<s>你看他演《飞驰人生》</s>
<time>1277_00:40:13,216 --> 00:40:16,096</time>
<s>你就知道他不想逗大家笑了</s>
<time>1278_00:40:16,455 --> 00:40:18,255</time>
<s>他想演爸爸他想死</s>
<time>1279_00:40:18,615 --> 00:40:19,335</time>
<s>他想演这些</s>
<time>1280_00:40:20,775 --> 00:40:22,575</time>
<s>为什么是演喜剧很累吗</s>
<time>1281_00:40:22,935 --> 00:40:24,375</time>
<s>就是你要逗别人笑</s>
<time>1282_00:40:24,735 --> 00:40:26,525</time>
<s>累比任何戏都累十倍</s>
<time>1283_00:40:27,965 --> 00:40:28,685</time>
<s>怎么说呢</s>
<time>1284_00:40:29,045 --> 00:40:31,565</time>
<s>演喜剧是比演任何戏</s>
<time>1285_00:40:31,925 --> 00:40:33,005</time>
<s>都累十倍的活儿</s>
<time>1286_00:40:34,445 --> 00:40:35,165</time>
<s>它累在哪儿呢</s>
<time>1287_00:40:36,245 --> 00:40:38,388</time>
<s>累在你要说服自己这样做</s>
<time>1288_00:40:41,988 --> 00:40:43,068</time>
<s>对它喜剧问题是</s>
<time>1289_00:40:43,428 --> 00:40:44,148</time>
<s>它往往有一个</s>
<time>1290_00:40:44,508 --> 00:40:45,588</time>
<s>咱们研究这个笑的规律</s>
<time>1291_00:40:45,948 --> 00:40:49,186</time>
<s>说这个有反常性</s>
<time>1292_00:40:49,546 --> 00:40:50,626</time>
<s>而且还有一点</s>
<time>1293_00:40:50,986 --> 00:40:51,706</time>
<s>他刚才讲弗洛伊德</s>
<time>1294_00:40:52,066 --> 00:40:52,786</time>
<s>我就记得</s>
<time>1295_00:40:53,146 --> 00:40:53,506</time>
<s>你知道弗洛伊德里边</s>
<time>1296_00:40:53,866 --> 00:40:54,586</time>
<s>有一个理论吗</s>
<time>1297_00:40:54,946 --> 00:40:56,737</time>
<s>就是人的不同发展阶段</s>
