<time>433_00:13:46,264 --> 00:13:48,064</time>
<s>那些技术公司都在北京</s>
<time>434_00:13:48,424 --> 00:13:49,504</time>
<s>你可以这么来计算</s>
<time>435_00:13:49,864 --> 00:13:51,304</time>
<s>它每天也叫996</s>
<time>436_00:13:51,664 --> 00:13:52,384</time>
<s>但他实际上为了</s>
<time>437_00:13:52,744 --> 00:13:54,544</time>
<s>这个工作付出的时间</s>
<time>438_00:13:54,904 --> 00:13:56,697</time>
<s>恐怕是913到914</s>
<time>439_00:13:57,057 --> 00:14:00,657</time>
<s>因为他光上下班的时间算起来</s>
<time>440_00:14:01,017 --> 00:14:02,817</time>
<s>就是比如说每天花4个钟头</s>
<time>441_00:14:03,177 --> 00:14:04,257</time>
<s>所以已经出现一个情况</s>
<time>442_00:14:04,617 --> 00:14:06,041</time>
<s>有一批人年轻人</s>
<time>443_00:14:06,401 --> 00:14:06,761</time>
<s>他们现在睡眠</s>
<time>444_00:14:07,121 --> 00:14:09,281</time>
<s>已经很习惯的三截式睡眠</s>
<time>445_00:14:09,641 --> 00:14:11,441</time>
<s>就晚上回到家的时候</s>
<time>446_00:14:11,801 --> 00:14:12,521</time>
<s>在床上睡</s>
<time>447_00:14:12,881 --> 00:14:15,041</time>
<s>早上上班两小时在</s>
<time>448_00:14:15,401 --> 00:14:17,921</time>
<s>如果你是早点坐公交</s>
<time>449_00:14:18,281 --> 00:14:19,361</time>
<s>或者地铁有位子的话</s>
<time>450_00:14:19,721 --> 00:14:20,801</time>
<s>又不用怎么倒车的话</s>
<time>451_00:14:21,161 --> 00:14:22,601</time>
<s>那段时间再分段地睡</s>
<time>452_00:14:22,961 --> 00:14:24,401</time>
<s>下班再分段睡</s>
<time>453_00:14:24,761 --> 00:14:25,481</time>
<s>三段式睡眠法</s>
<time>454_00:14:25,833 --> 00:14:26,553</time>
<s>已经变成这样了</s>
<time>455_00:14:26,913 --> 00:14:28,713</time>
<s>其实严格地来说是四段</s>
<time>456_00:14:29,073 --> 00:14:29,433</time>
<s>为什么呢</s>
<time>457_00:14:29,793 --> 00:14:30,873</time>
<s>因为在这种状况下</s>
<time>458_00:14:31,233 --> 00:14:32,313</time>
<s>礼拜天他也没有</s>
<time>459_00:14:32,673 --> 00:14:35,898</time>
<s>太多的精力出去休息出去玩的</s>
<time>460_00:14:36,258 --> 00:14:36,618</time>
<s>所以礼拜天</s>
<time>461_00:14:36,978 --> 00:14:38,418</time>
<s>当然不用上班不用工作</s>
<time>462_00:14:38,778 --> 00:14:40,218</time>
<s>可是他又因为平常呢</s>
<time>463_00:14:40,578 --> 00:14:43,098</time>
<s>把他剥夺的精力精神太多了</s>
<time>464_00:14:43,458 --> 00:14:44,178</time>
<s>他礼拜天其实要</s>
<time>465_00:14:44,538 --> 00:14:46,338</time>
<s>补回工作那部分</s>
<time>466_00:14:46,698 --> 00:14:48,498</time>
<s>那个不属于他的生活的</s>
<time>467_00:14:48,858 --> 00:14:49,218</time>
<s>对“软禁”</s>
<time>468_00:14:49,578 --> 00:14:50,658</time>
<s>我看到一些年轻的文员</s>
<time>469_00:14:51,018 --> 00:14:52,098</time>
<s>真的很惨啊</s>
<time>470_00:14:52,458 --> 00:14:54,618</time>
<s>住在香港的屯门新界</s>
<time>471_00:14:54,978 --> 00:14:56,410</time>
<s>之后上完一天班</s>
<time>472_00:14:56,770 --> 00:14:58,210</time>
<s>就算她没有加班</s>
<time>473_00:14:58,570 --> 00:14:59,650</time>
<s>6点钟下班</s>
<time>474_00:15:00,010 --> 00:15:02,530</time>
<s>又是人挤人等了5班的地铁</s>
<time>475_00:15:02,890 --> 00:15:03,250</time>
<s>挤不上</s>
<time>476_00:15:03,610 --> 00:15:04,330</time>
<s>还要在地铁上面</s>
<time>477_00:15:04,690 --> 00:15:06,114</time>
<s>还防范痴汉</s>
<time>478_00:15:06,474 --> 00:15:06,834</time>
<s>怕碰到我</s>
<time>479_00:15:07,194 --> 00:15:08,274</time>
<s>个我的朋友</s>
<time>480_00:15:08,634 --> 00:15:09,714</time>
<s>然后在那边</s>
<time>481_00:15:10,074 --> 00:15:11,514</time>
<s>然后回到家是几点</s>
<time>482_00:15:11,874 --> 00:15:13,314</time>
<s>回到家8点多</s>
<time>483_00:15:13,674 --> 00:15:15,474</time>
<s>你吃完饭9点多10点</s>
<time>484_00:15:15,834 --> 00:15:16,553</time>
<s>就累垮了</s>
<time>485_00:15:16,913 --> 00:15:17,633</time>
<s>为什么不学东哥</s>
<time>486_00:15:19,073 --> 00:15:20,153</time>
<s>就是那个刘强东哥</s>
<time>487_00:15:20,513 --> 00:15:22,313</time>
<s>我看东哥当年真感人</s>
<time>488_00:15:22,673 --> 00:15:25,193</time>
<s>说我就睡在办公室地板上</s>
<time>489_00:15:25,553 --> 00:15:26,265</time>
<s>甚至我</s>
<time>490_00:15:26,625 --> 00:15:28,785</time>
<s>凡是老板自己说这些话</s>
<time>491_00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:30,945</time>
<s>做客服我真没见过</s>
<time>492_00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:32,385</time>
<s>就是做客服</s>
<time>493_00:15:32,745 --> 00:15:35,625</time>
<s>把闹钟设计成二个小时一响</s>
<time>494_00:15:35,985 --> 00:15:36,689</time>
<s>放在地板上</s>
<time>495_00:15:37,049 --> 00:15:38,129</time>
<s>两个小时“铛”醒了</s>
<time>496_00:15:38,489 --> 00:15:39,929</time>
<s>马上回复客户问题</s>
<time>497_00:15:40,289 --> 00:15:43,889</time>
<s>东哥说我是811</s>
<time>498_00:15:44,249 --> 00:15:45,689</time>
<s>81168</s>
<time>499_00:15:46,049 --> 00:15:47,129</time>
<s>你知道什么意思吗</s>
<time>500_00:15:47,489 --> 00:15:50,369</time>
<s>早上8点到晚上11点</s>
<time>501_00:15:50,729 --> 00:15:51,809</time>
<s>一连于6天</s>
<time>502_00:15:52,169 --> 00:15:52,889</time>
<s>最后一个8呢</s>
<time>503_00:15:53,249 --> 00:15:55,769</time>
<s>是星期天再千8小时</s>
<time>504_00:15:56,129 --> 00:15:58,280</time>
<s>奋斗的人都是我的兄弟</s>
<time>505_00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,080</time>
<s>我听到的一个就是</s>
<time>506_00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:00,800</time>
<s>真实的就是在北京</s>
<time>507_00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:01,520</time>
<s>真实的就是在北京圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>508_00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:02,960</time>
<s>我一个朋友他们去圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>509_00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:03,680</time>
<s>一个互联网公司圆桌派看理想】</s>
<time>510_00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:05,120</time>
<s>他说为什么到晚上12点了</s>
<time>511_00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:05,840</time>
<s>他说为什么到晚上12点了圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>512_00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:07,264</time>
<s>办公室坐满了人圆桌派看理想】</s>
<time>513_00:16:07,624 --> 00:16:08,704</time>
<s>就因为这紫年轻人</s>
<time>514_00:16:09,064 --> 00:16:10,504</time>
<s>都是合租房子圆桌派看理想】</s>
<time>515_00:16:10,864 --> 00:16:11,944</time>
<s>他回去其实地方特别小</s>
<time>516_00:16:13,024 --> 00:16:13,744</time>
<s>然后可能也没冷气圆桌派看理想】</s>
<time>517_00:16:14,104 --> 00:16:14,464</time>
<s>或者怎么样</s>
<time>518_00:16:15,184 --> 00:16:15,544</time>
<s>条件很差他不愿意回家</s>
<time>519_00:16:15,904 --> 00:16:16,984</time>
<s>条件很差他不愿意回家圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>520_00:16:17,344 --> 00:16:18,424</time>
<s>有的时候也因为这个原因</s>
<time>521_00:16:18,784 --> 00:16:19,504</time>
<s>他们宁可待在办公室</s>
<time>522_00:16:19,864 --> 00:16:20,944</time>
<s>而且这里面还牵涉一个问题</s>
<time>523_00:16:21,304 --> 00:16:22,384</time>
<s>因为中国今天</s>
<time>524_00:16:22,744 --> 00:16:25,264</time>
<s>北上广深这些大城市</s>
<time>525_00:16:25,624 --> 00:16:27,055</time>
<s>很多工作的年轻人是外来的</s>
<time>526_00:16:28,495 --> 00:16:29,575</time>
<s>他们从外地过来</s>
<time>527_00:16:29,935 --> 00:16:30,295</time>
<s>从外地过来呢</s>
<time>528_00:16:30,655 --> 00:16:31,735</time>
<s>他的家原来不在这儿</s>
<time>529_00:16:32,455 --> 00:16:33,175</time>
<s>要另外找落脚处</s>
<time>530_00:16:33,535 --> 00:16:34,615</time>
<s>然后就要租房为主</s>
<time>531_00:16:34,975 --> 00:16:36,415</time>
<s>如果他刚刚踏入职场</s>
<time>532_00:16:36,759 --> 00:16:38,559</time>
<s>现在买房你都不知道存多少钱</s>
<time>533_00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:39,639</time>
<s>要存多少年对不对</s>
<time>534_00:16:39,999 --> 00:16:40,719</time>
<s>好那租房</s>
<time>535_00:16:41,079 --> 00:16:42,879</time>
<s>你想想看他刚进一个企业</s>
<time>536_00:16:43,239 --> 00:16:43,599</time>
<s>刚进一个公司</s>
<time>537_00:16:43,959 --> 00:16:45,399</time>
<s>他的薪水一定是比较低的</s>
<time>538_00:16:45,759 --> 00:16:47,198</time>
<s>所以他租不起很贵的房</s>
<time>539_00:16:47,558 --> 00:16:48,278</time>
<s>很贵的房都在哪儿呢</s>
<time>540_00:16:48,638 --> 00:16:49,358</time>
<s>比如说在三环内</s>
<time>541_00:16:49,718 --> 00:16:51,878</time>
<s>他薪水最低住得最远</s>
<time>542_00:16:52,238 --> 00:16:53,678</time>
<s>花在交通上的时间最多</s>
<time>543_00:16:54,038 --> 00:16:55,118</time>
<s>所以每天用来应付</s>
<time>544_00:16:55,478 --> 00:16:57,629</time>
<s>上下班的时间都比谁都长</s>
<time>545_00:16:57,989 --> 00:16:59,069</time>
<s>然后他会最累</s>
<time>546_00:16:59,429 --> 00:17:00,869</time>
<s>然后但是我们通常一般</s>
<time>547_00:17:01,229 --> 00:17:02,669</time>
<s>对于这样情况的辩解</s>
<time>548_00:17:03,029 --> 00:17:04,469</time>
<s>就是说你奋斗努力</s>
<time>549_00:17:04,829 --> 00:17:06,269</time>
<s>过了两年你就逐渐</s>
<time>550_00:17:06,629 --> 00:17:09,493</time>
<s>往四环方向前进</s>
<time>551_00:17:09,853 --> 00:17:10,573</time>
<s>这么一路一路进来</s>
<time>552_00:17:10,933 --> 00:17:12,733</time>
<s>那是成功者的语言</s>
<time>553_00:17:13,453 --> 00:17:14,173</time>
<s>对就是这样子</s>
<time>554_00:17:14,893 --> 00:17:17,051</time>
<s>多少人像你的东哥一样工作</s>
<time>555_00:17:17,411 --> 00:17:18,131</time>
<s>结果是什么</s>
<time>556_00:17:18,491 --> 00:17:18,851</time>
<s>过劳死</s>
<time>557_00:17:19,931 --> 00:17:21,011</time>
<s>33岁死掉</s>
<time>558_00:17:21,371 --> 00:17:22,091</time>
<s>35（岁）</s>
<time>559_00:17:22,451 --> 00:17:23,891</time>
<s>我没有诅咒任何人的意思</s>
<time>560_00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:26,771</time>
<s>那个成功者的语言</s>
<time>561_00:17:27,123 --> 00:17:28,923</time>
<s>这个里边其实要叫我说</s>
<time>562_00:17:29,643 --> 00:17:30,723</time>
<s>是把这个一个制度性问题</s>
<time>563_00:17:31,083 --> 00:17:32,523</time>
<s>和个人人生选择问题</s>
<time>564_00:17:32,883 --> 00:17:35,043</time>
<s>混淆在一起了对吧</s>
<time>565_00:17:35,403 --> 00:17:37,186</time>
<s>其实这个人吧</s>
<time>566_00:17:37,546 --> 00:17:38,626</time>
<s>有的时候也是故意地</s>
<time>567_00:17:38,986 --> 00:17:40,426</time>
<s>从自己的立场上去想</s>
<time>568_00:17:40,786 --> 00:17:41,866</time>
<s>其实你要站到</s>
<time>569_00:17:42,226 --> 00:17:42,946</time>
<s>对方立场上想</s>
<time>570_00:17:43,306 --> 00:17:44,386</time>
<s>谁说的你都能理解</s>
<time>571_00:17:44,746 --> 00:17:47,625</time>
<s>你比方说我认识的有些朋友</s>
<time>572_00:17:47,985 --> 00:17:49,065</time>
<s>就是发了财</s>
<time>573_00:17:49,425 --> 00:17:50,865</time>
<s>那他儿子就是这个富二代</s>
<time>574_00:17:51,225 --> 00:17:53,025</time>
<s>我就觉得你知道</s>
<time>575_00:17:53,385 --> 00:17:55,185</time>
<s>至今很多成功人士</s>
<time>576_00:17:55,545 --> 00:17:56,985</time>
<s>他们有一种价值观</s>
<time>577_00:17:57,336 --> 00:18:00,576</time>
<s>劳动者是美丽的是吧</s>
<time>578_00:18:00,936 --> 00:18:02,736</time>
<s>工作才是人生的价值</s>
<time>579_00:18:03,096 --> 00:18:05,616</time>
<s>不奋斗的人生是不值得过的</s>
<time>580_00:18:05,976 --> 00:18:07,399</time>
<s>可是我更愿意想起一个</s>
<time>581_00:18:07,759 --> 00:18:08,839</time>
<s>西方哲学家讲的话</s>
<time>582_00:18:09,199 --> 00:18:10,639</time>
<s>未经审视的人生</s>
<time>583_00:18:10,999 --> 00:18:12,079</time>
<s>是不值得过的</s>
<time>584_00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:13,879</time>
<s>就是说你有没有想过</s>
<time>585_00:18:14,239 --> 00:18:16,759</time>
<s>我到底准备怎么过我这一辈子</s>
<time>586_00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,277</time>
<s>你知道比如说</s>
<time>587_00:18:20,357 --> 00:18:22,157</time>
<s>我有朋友他奋斗成功了</s>
<time>588_00:18:22,517 --> 00:18:23,237</time>
<s>他过很好生活</s>
<time>589_00:18:23,597 --> 00:18:25,757</time>
<s>而且跟他儿子还挺先进的</s>
<time>590_00:18:26,117 --> 00:18:26,477</time>
<s>他儿子在伦敦</s>
<time>591_00:18:27,548 --> 00:18:28,268</time>
<s>我就跟他儿子</s>
<time>592_00:18:28,628 --> 00:18:29,348</time>
<s>我跟他儿子聊天</s>
<time>593_00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:31,508</time>
<s>我说你儿子是个当学者的材料</s>
<time>594_00:18:31,868 --> 00:18:33,308</time>
<s>是个知识分子对吧</s>
<time>595_00:18:33,668 --> 00:18:34,388</time>
<s>他就发愁</s>
<time>596_00:18:34,748 --> 00:18:35,468</time>
<s>因为他跟他儿子</s>
<time>597_00:18:35,828 --> 00:18:36,908</time>
<s>有协定就是说老豆（老爹）</s>
<time>598_00:18:37,268 --> 00:18:38,691</time>
<s>就是不要吃老豆（老爹）的</s>
<time>599_00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:39,771</time>
<s>但是他在一边担心</s>
<time>600_00:18:40,131 --> 00:18:40,851</time>
<s>他说这将来</s>
<time>601_00:18:41,211 --> 00:18:42,651</time>
<s>就在英国大学当教授</s>
<time>602_00:18:43,011 --> 00:18:43,371</time>
<s>我打听了</s>
<time>603_00:18:43,731 --> 00:18:45,891</time>
<s>教授可没多少钱</s>
<time>604_00:18:46,251 --> 00:18:46,611</time>
<s>三万多英榜</s>
<time>605_00:18:46,971 --> 00:18:49,129</time>
<s>我说教授算可以了</s>
<time>606_00:18:49,489 --> 00:18:51,289</time>
<s>他说那能住上大房子吗</s>
<time>607_00:18:51,649 --> 00:18:52,009</time>
<s>在伦敦</s>
<time>608_00:18:52,729 --> 00:18:54,529</time>
<s>他能过上我这样的生活吗</s>
<time>609_00:18:54,889 --> 00:18:56,329</time>
<s>对吧他就担心</s>
<time>610_00:18:58,120 --> 00:19:01,360</time>
<s>但是你架不住他儿子喜欢这样</s>
<time>611_00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,800</time>
<s>他儿子愿意在学校里</s>
<time>612_00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,960</time>
<s>一辈子做个教授</s>
<time>613_00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,120</time>
<s>就不像他老豆那么有钱</s>
<time>614_00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,543</time>
<s>那你说这事怎么说呢</s>
<time>615_00:19:08,903 --> 00:19:09,983</time>
<s>我怎么听到很多有钱人</s>
<time>616_00:19:10,343 --> 00:19:11,063</time>
<s>都说希望他们的小孩</s>
<time>617_00:19:11,423 --> 00:19:12,143</time>
<s>将来什么也不干就是玩儿</s>
<time>618_00:19:12,503 --> 00:19:13,223</time>
<s>真的有的</s>
<time>619_00:19:13,583 --> 00:19:15,383</time>
<s>就是连学校都不去</s>
<time>620_00:19:15,743 --> 00:19:16,103</time>
<s>说我的梦想就是</s>
<time>621_00:19:16,823 --> 00:19:18,981</time>
<s>你将来都别像我这样活了就玩儿</s>
<time>622_00:19:19,341 --> 00:19:21,501</time>
<s>对然后就是另外一方面</s>
<time>623_00:19:21,861 --> 00:19:23,301</time>
<s>其实不光这个问题在中国</s>
<time>624_00:19:23,661 --> 00:19:24,741</time>
<s>你像那个埃隆·马斯克</s>
<time>625_00:19:25,101 --> 00:19:26,181</time>
<s>不是要上火星的</s>
<time>626_00:19:26,541 --> 00:19:27,261</time>
<s>他不是也说吗</s>
<time>627_00:19:27,971 --> 00:19:29,051</time>
<s>他说没有人可以</s>
<time>628_00:19:29,411 --> 00:19:30,131</time>
<s>每一周工作40小时</s>
<time>629_00:19:30,491 --> 00:19:31,571</time>
<s>就能改变世界</s>
<time>630_00:19:31,931 --> 00:19:33,011</time>
<s>可是为什么改变世界</s>
<time>631_00:19:33,371 --> 00:19:34,451</time>
<s>就是一个正义的事情呢</s>
<time>632_00:19:35,531 --> 00:19:36,611</time>
<s>咱们俩真是有同感</s>
<time>633_00:19:36,971 --> 00:19:38,034</time>
<s>我真的</s>
<time>634_00:19:38,394 --> 00:19:39,114</time>
<s>不是他一说出来</s>
<time>635_00:19:39,474 --> 00:19:41,634</time>
<s>就是你觉得这种野心就是正义</s>
<time>636_00:19:42,354 --> 00:19:43,074</time>
<s>就说我这个就是对的圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>637_00:19:44,514 --> 00:19:44,874</time>
<s>如果他不想改变世界圆桌派[看理想】</s>
<time>638_00:19:45,234 --> 00:19:45,594</time>
<s>他还想回到田园牧歌怎么办圆桌派看理想】</s>
<time>639_00:19:45,954 --> 00:19:46,674</time>
<s>他还想回到田园牧歌怎么办</s>
<time>640_00:19:47,034 --> 00:19:47,754</time>
<s>我想说的</s>
<time>641_00:19:48,112 --> 00:19:49,192</time>
<s>或者我不是代表我自己说</s>
<time>642_00:19:49,552 --> 00:19:51,712</time>
<s>我在网上看了很多年轻人的对吧</s>
<time>643_00:19:52,072 --> 00:19:53,512</time>
<s>我觉得真是有的时候说</s>
<time>644_00:19:53,872 --> 00:19:56,392</time>
<s>像这个马斯克他要改变世界</s>
<time>645_00:19:56,752 --> 00:19:58,182</time>
<s>你知道有的老板</s>
<time>646_00:19:58,542 --> 00:19:59,262</time>
<s>我觉得是真的</s>
<time>647_00:19:59,622 --> 00:20:01,062</time>
<s>要不说我总想跟他们学怎么挣钱</s>
<time>648_00:20:01,422 --> 00:20:02,502</time>
<s>最后他们告诉我的是</s>
<time>649_00:20:02,862 --> 00:20:03,582</time>
<s>你要奔着钱去</s>
<time>650_00:20:03,942 --> 00:20:05,022</time>
<s>你就挣不到大钱</s>
<time>651_00:20:05,382 --> 00:20:06,102</time>
<s>我们都是情怀</s>
<time>652_00:20:06,462 --> 00:20:07,902</time>
<s>最后钱自然就来了</s>
<time>653_00:20:08,244 --> 00:20:08,604</time>
<s>没这事儿</s>
<time>654_00:20:08,964 --> 00:20:09,684</time>
<s>我一直在学习呢</s>
<time>655_00:20:10,044 --> 00:20:12,204</time>
<s>不是我甚至认为他是</s>
<time>656_00:20:12,564 --> 00:20:13,644</time>
<s>我觉得出发点是真的是这样</s>
<time>657_00:20:14,004 --> 00:20:16,164</time>
<s>我甚至认为他是真诚的对吧</s>
<time>658_00:20:16,524 --> 00:20:17,244</time>
<s>就是有的老板</s>
<time>659_00:20:17,604 --> 00:20:17,964</time>
<s>很多都是</s>
<time>660_00:20:18,322 --> 00:20:19,042</time>
<s>有的首富</s>
<time>661_00:20:19,402 --> 00:20:19,762</time>
<s>他确实首富</s>
<time>662_00:20:20,122 --> 00:20:21,202</time>
<s>不是他人生的目的</s>
<time>663_00:20:21,562 --> 00:20:22,642</time>
<s>他觉得他能改变了</s>
<time>664_00:20:23,002 --> 00:20:23,722</time>
<s>人类的生活方式</s>
<time>665_00:20:24,082 --> 00:20:25,162</time>
<s>改变一种通讯方式</s>
<time>666_00:20:25,522 --> 00:20:26,602</time>
<s>他觉得是他人生</s>
<time>667_00:20:26,962 --> 00:20:28,752</time>
<s>极大的成功和满足感</s>
<time>668_00:20:29,112 --> 00:20:29,832</time>
<s>对这可以</s>
<time>669_00:20:30,192 --> 00:20:33,432</time>
<s>但是那如果另一个人</s>
<time>670_00:20:33,792 --> 00:20:35,232</time>
<s>我这辈子最大的满足感</s>
<time>671_00:20:35,592 --> 00:20:37,752</time>
<s>就来自于忙完了一天的活儿</s>
<time>672_00:20:38,112 --> 00:20:38,814</time>
<s>喝二两小酒儿</s>
<time>673_00:20:39,174 --> 00:20:40,974</time>
<s>看看电视看看美剧</s>
<time>674_00:20:41,334 --> 00:20:42,774</time>
<s>我就愿意这样过一生</s>
<time>675_00:20:43,134 --> 00:20:43,494</time>
<s>这就很快乐了</s>
<time>676_00:20:43,854 --> 00:20:44,934</time>
<s>对但这就改变不了世界</s>
<time>677_00:20:45,294 --> 00:20:45,654</time>
<s>对不对</s>
<time>678_00:20:46,374 --> 00:20:47,814</time>
<s>那我就比较低俗吗</s>
<time>679_00:20:48,174 --> 00:20:48,892</time>
<s>我就</s>
<time>680_00:20:49,252 --> 00:20:49,612</time>
<s>当然不会</s>
<time>681_00:20:50,692 --> 00:20:51,052</time>
<s>当然不会</s>
<time>682_00:20:51,412 --> 00:20:52,132</time>
<s>但是我想讲就是</s>
<time>683_00:20:52,492 --> 00:20:53,932</time>
<s>刚才你说那个还是真事</s>
<time>684_00:20:54,292 --> 00:20:55,012</time>
<s>比如说我们去看</s>
<time>685_00:20:55,372 --> 00:20:56,452</time>
<s>现在不是中国很流行</s>
<time>686_00:20:56,812 --> 00:20:57,892</time>
<s>那个什么《乔布斯传》</s>
<time>687_00:20:58,252 --> 00:20:58,962</time>
<s>这个这个</s>
<time>688_00:20:59,322 --> 00:21:00,042</time>
<s>你仔细看</s>
<time>689_00:21:01,482 --> 00:21:02,562</time>
<s>的确有相当一批</s>
<time>690_00:21:02,922 --> 00:21:04,002</time>
<s>不能说是全部</s>
<time>691_00:21:04,362 --> 00:21:06,522</time>
<s>就这些富豪故事</s>
<time>692_00:21:06,882 --> 00:21:08,322</time>
<s>他们很多富豪之所以成富豪</s>
<time>693_00:21:08,664 --> 00:21:10,464</time>
<s>也是硅谷早期的创业者</s>
<time>694_00:21:10,824 --> 00:21:11,904</time>
<s>他们最初其实并没有</s>
<time>695_00:21:12,264 --> 00:21:13,344</time>
<s>想过要发财的</s>
<time>696_00:21:13,704 --> 00:21:14,424</time>
<s>他就是在自己的车库</s>
<time>697_00:21:14,784 --> 00:21:17,664</time>
<s>在车库烧些东西弄些东西</s>
<time>698_00:21:18,024 --> 00:21:19,101</time>
<s>他那是真喜欢</s>
<time>699_00:21:19,461 --> 00:21:21,261</time>
<s>他觉得这个东西很有意思</s>
<time>700_00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:22,341</time>
<s>这个东西能改变</s>
<time>701_00:21:22,701 --> 00:21:24,501</time>
<s>发财是个后来的事情</s>
<time>702_00:21:24,861 --> 00:21:25,221</time>
<s>但是</s>
<time>703_00:21:25,581 --> 00:21:26,301</time>
<s>他也得雇用很多人</s>
<time>704_00:21:26,661 --> 00:21:27,381</time>
<s>才能把这个事情做出来</s>
<time>705_00:21:27,741 --> 00:21:28,101</time>
<s>。</s><s>一开始不是</s>
<time>706_00:21:28,461 --> 00:21:29,171</time>
<s>一开始就两三个人</s>
<time>707_00:21:29,531 --> 00:21:29,891</time>
<s>在那边搞</s>
<time>708_00:21:30,251 --> 00:21:30,971</time>
<s>而且是无偿地做</s>
<time>709_00:21:31,331 --> 00:21:33,131</time>
<s>当然这个也没什么神秘的</s>
<time>710_00:21:33,491 --> 00:21:35,291</time>
<s>就是如果你一个人有本事</s>
<time>711_00:21:35,651 --> 00:21:36,731</time>
<s>造福千千万万人</s>
<time>712_00:21:37,091 --> 00:21:38,873</time>
<s>那理论上讲你没钱</s>
<time>713_00:21:39,233 --> 00:21:40,673</time>
<s>天理都不容对吧</s>
<time>714_00:21:41,033 --> 00:21:42,113</time>
<s>你造福了千千万万人</s>
<time>715_00:21:42,473 --> 00:21:43,193</time>
<s>这千千万万人就会给你</s>
<time>716_00:21:43,553 --> 00:21:44,633</time>
<s>有回报对吧</s>
<time>717_00:21:44,993 --> 00:21:46,073</time>
<s>你不想要都不行</s>
<time>718_00:21:46,433 --> 00:21:46,793</time>
<s>我问过一个人</s>
<time>719_00:21:47,153 --> 00:21:48,233</time>
<s>他是打理那种私人</s>
<time>720_00:21:48,593 --> 00:21:48,950</time>
<s>就是私人财富的</s>
<time>721_00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:50,030</time>
<s>就是他接触的</s>
<time>722_00:21:50,390 --> 00:21:51,470</time>
<s>都是最有钱的一个人</s>
<time>723_00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:53,630</time>
<s>我说你能不能告诉我</s>
<time>724_00:21:53,990 --> 00:21:54,710</time>
<s>这种人都是哪几种人</s>
<time>725_00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:55,790</time>
<s>怎么样的人</s>
<time>726_00:21:56,510 --> 00:21:57,590</time>
<s>能够发那么大的财</s>
<time>727_00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:59,740</time>
<s>结果他说有三种人</s>
<time>728_00:22:00,100 --> 00:22:00,460</time>
<s>一种像你说的那个乔布斯那种</s>
<time>729_00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:02,260</time>
<s>一种像你说的那个乔布斯那种</s>
<time>730_00:22:02,620 --> 00:22:04,420</time>
<s>真的是自己发明创造出来的</s>
<time>731_00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:05,140</time>
<s>这种企业家圃桌派看理想】</s>
<time>732_00:22:05,500 --> 00:22:06,580</time>
<s>要么就是继承遗产</s>
<time>733_00:22:08,740 --> 00:22:09,081</time>
<s>就是高级打工仔</s>
<time>734_00:22:09,441 --> 00:22:11,241</time>
<s>可能是在就是在麦肯锡</s>
<time>735_00:22:11,601 --> 00:22:12,321</time>
<s>或者在什么公司</s>
<time>736_00:22:13,761 --> 00:22:14,121</time>
<s>那么我问他</s>
<time>737_00:22:14,841 --> 00:22:15,201</time>
<s>我说他们有什么秘密吗</s>
<time>738_00:22:15,561 --> 00:22:16,641</time>
<s>什么人能赚那么大钱</s>
<time>739_00:22:17,001 --> 00:22:18,081</time>
<s>他说三种人都一样</s>
<time>740_00:22:18,801 --> 00:22:20,238</time>
<s>就是幸运</s>
<time>741_00:22:20,598 --> 00:22:20,958</time>
<s>对我很同意</s>
<time>742_00:22:21,318 --> 00:22:22,758</time>
<s>他说有多少人努力了</s>
<time>743_00:22:23,118 --> 00:22:24,198</time>
<s>有多少人像乔布斯</s>
<time>744_00:22:25,638 --> 00:22:26,358</time>
<s>他说到最后就是幸运圆桌派[看理想</s>
<time>745_00:22:27,078 --> 00:22:28,158</time>
<s>纯粹幸运</s>
<time>746_00:22:28,518 --> 00:22:29,228</time>
<s>但是你也要努力</s>
<time>747_00:22:29,588 --> 00:22:30,668</time>
<s>当然你努力了还要有运气</s>
<time>748_00:22:31,028 --> 00:22:34,268</time>
<s>当然咱们中国人的老话</s>
<time>749_00:22:34,628 --> 00:22:36,428</time>
<s>小富由俭</s>
<time>750_00:22:36,788 --> 00:22:37,868</time>
<s>不是很的哦</s>
<time>751_00:22:38,228 --> 00:22:41,089</time>
<s>节俭的俭</s>
<time>752_00:22:41,449 --> 00:22:42,529</time>
<s>大富由天</s>
<time>753_00:22:42,889 --> 00:22:43,609</time>
<s>八个字讲好</s>
<time>754_00:22:43,969 --> 00:22:45,049</time>
<s>可是我们别忘了</s>
<time>755_00:22:45,409 --> 00:22:48,649</time>
<s>乔布斯死前的感慨是什么</s>
<time>756_00:22:49,009 --> 00:22:50,446</time>
<s>我花太多时间工作了</s>
<time>757_00:22:50,806 --> 00:22:51,166</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>758_00:22:51,526 --> 00:22:52,966</time>
<s>我非常后悔</s>
<time>759_00:22:53,326 --> 00:22:56,566</time>
<s>我应该把最主要的精力</s>
<time>760_00:22:56,926 --> 00:22:59,435</time>
<s>时间精神放在跟家人相处</s>
<time>761_00:22:59,795 --> 00:23:01,235</time>
<s>放在开发自己的</s>
<time>762_00:23:01,595 --> 00:23:03,395</time>
<s>各种的性灵的感悟</s>
<time>763_00:23:03,755 --> 00:23:04,835</time>
<s>所以我们说乔布斯</s>
<time>764_00:23:05,195 --> 00:23:06,635</time>
<s>这个那个发财了</s>
<time>765_00:23:06,995 --> 00:23:07,355</time>
<s>什么做大事</s>
<time>766_00:23:07,715 --> 00:23:08,795</time>
<s>到最后他是后悔的</s>
<time>767_00:23:09,155 --> 00:23:09,497</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>768_00:23:09,857 --> 00:23:10,937</time>
<s>而且所有的这些讨论</s>
<time>769_00:23:11,297 --> 00:23:12,737</time>
<s>我们前面的聊天讨论</s>
<time>770_00:23:13,097 --> 00:23:14,897</time>
<s>都忘记了两个字</s>
<time>771_00:23:15,257 --> 00:23:16,337</time>
<s>这两个字很重要的</s>
<time>772_00:23:16,697 --> 00:23:17,057</time>
<s>剥削</s>
<time>773_00:23:17,777 --> 00:23:20,293</time>
<s>所以你996作为一个制度</s>
<time>774_00:23:20,653 --> 00:23:22,813</time>
<s>基本上这个核心在于说剥削</s>
<time>775_00:23:23,173 --> 00:23:23,893</time>
<s>假如是一种制度</s>
<time>776_00:23:24,253 --> 00:23:25,333</time>
<s>你不能剥削</s>
<time>777_00:23:25,693 --> 00:23:27,493</time>
<s>你可以让人家你选择</s>
<time>778_00:23:27,853 --> 00:23:29,293</time>
<s>要不要8118的</s>
<time>779_00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:31,442</time>
<s>这个那个无所谓</s>
<time>780_00:23:31,802 --> 00:23:34,322</time>
<s>可是你不能强迫人家996</s>
<time>781_00:23:34,682 --> 00:23:36,122</time>
<s>因为中间就牵扯到剥削</s>
<time>782_00:23:36,482 --> 00:23:37,562</time>
<s>剥削有什么不好呢</s>
<time>783_00:23:37,922 --> 00:23:40,063</time>
<s>剥削就让一个完整的人</s>
<time>784_00:23:40,423 --> 00:23:42,583</time>
<s>没办法成为一个完整的人了</s>
<time>785_00:23:42,943 --> 00:23:43,663</time>
<s>基本上他的生命</s>
<time>786_00:23:44,023 --> 00:23:44,743</time>
<s>就是为了这个工作</s>
<time>787_00:23:45,103 --> 00:23:46,903</time>
<s>而且不是自已的工作</s>
<time>788_00:23:47,263 --> 00:23:47,983</time>
<s>是别人的工作</s>
<time>789_00:23:49,063 --> 00:23:49,780</time>
<s>异化</s>
<time>790_00:23:50,140 --> 00:23:51,220</time>
<s>对人的工具化</s>
<time>791_00:23:51,580 --> 00:23:52,300</time>
<s>那个所说的</s>
<time>792_00:23:52,660 --> 00:23:54,100</time>
<s>人的理想状态</s>
<time>793_00:23:54,460 --> 00:23:55,540</time>
<s>我们都知道对不对</s>
<time>794_00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:56,620</time>
<s>早上钓鱼</s>
<time>795_00:23:56,980 --> 00:23:58,420</time>
<s>下午喝个小酒</s>
<time>796_00:23:58,780 --> 00:24:00,209</time>
<s>晚上打个牌</s>
<time>797_00:24:00,569 --> 00:24:03,089</time>
<s>再晚上上坑（炕）陪陪老婆这样</s>
<time>798_00:24:03,449 --> 00:24:04,169</time>
<s>晚上写诗</s>
<time>799_00:24:04,529 --> 00:24:04,889</time>
<s>你们家住坑不是炕</s>
<time>800_00:24:05,249 --> 00:24:05,609</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>801_00:24:06,329 --> 00:24:07,049</time>
<s>所以刚刚说的</s>
<time>802_00:24:07,409 --> 00:24:08,489</time>
<s>我觉得说无所谓了</s>
<time>803_00:24:08,849 --> 00:24:11,350</time>
<s>你喜欢工作几个钟头你的事</s>
<time>804_00:24:11,710 --> 00:24:14,590</time>
<s>问题是你不能强迫老子996</s>
<time>805_00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:16,030</time>
<s>对我接着你这个说</s>
<time>806_00:24:16,390 --> 00:24:17,830</time>
<s>我觉得问题还是没那么简单</s>
<time>807_00:24:18,190 --> 00:24:21,426</time>
<s>你比如说我们假如这么讲</s>
<time>808_00:24:21,786 --> 00:24:23,946</time>
<s>不应该强迫任何人</s>
<time>809_00:24:24,306 --> 00:24:25,746</time>
<s>去给你怎么工作对吧</s>
<time>810_00:24:26,106 --> 00:24:27,546</time>
<s>愿意不愿意996</s>
<time>811_00:24:27,906 --> 00:24:29,706</time>
<s>应该是个人选择的权利</s>
<time>812_00:24:30,055 --> 00:24:31,495</time>
<s>个人选择的自由</s>
<time>813_00:24:31,855 --> 00:24:32,935</time>
<s>这个理由很刚吧</s>
<time>814_00:24:33,295 --> 00:24:34,735</time>
<s>但是我现在发现</s>
<time>815_00:24:35,095 --> 00:24:36,535</time>
<s>这个社会的复杂</s>
<time>816_00:24:36,895 --> 00:24:39,055</time>
<s>就表现在人类最深刻的问题</s>
<time>817_00:24:39,415 --> 00:24:39,775</time>
<s>表现在哪儿</s>
<time>818_00:24:40,115 --> 00:24:42,275</time>
<s>表现在我在初次去巴黎</s>
<time>819_00:24:42,635 --> 00:24:43,355</time>
<s>你刚才讲的巴黎</s>
<time>820_00:24:43,715 --> 00:24:44,795</time>
<s>我有两个经历</s>
<time>821_00:24:45,155 --> 00:24:46,955</time>
<s>就是我觉得</s>
<time>822_00:24:47,315 --> 00:24:49,835</time>
<s>这不仅仅是个个人选择的问题</s>
<time>823_00:24:50,192 --> 00:24:51,272</time>
<s>你看我在巴黎那个</s>
<time>824_00:24:51,632 --> 00:24:52,712</time>
<s>买那个牛仔裤</s>
<time>825_00:24:53,072 --> 00:24:56,672</time>
<s>真有不给老板挣钱的</s>
<time>826_00:24:57,032 --> 00:24:59,192</time>
<s>5点钟关门你知道吗</s>
<time>827_00:25:00,620 --> 00:25:01,700</time>
<s>我拿了一条牛仔裤</s>
<time>828_00:25:02,060 --> 00:25:03,860</time>
<s>我总得试一下</s>
<time>829_00:25:04,220 --> 00:25:05,660</time>
<s>我试完了我走到柜台的时候</s>
<time>830_00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:06,380</time>
<s>它那个闹钟</s>
<time>831_00:25:07,820 --> 00:25:08,540</time>
<s>5点整</s>
<time>832_00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:10,320</time>
<s>就这个收银台</s>
<time>833_00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:12,120</time>
<s>我拿着信用卡收银台</s>
<time>834_00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,720</time>
<s>就关门</s>
<time>835_00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:17,520</time>
<s>我说这就不卖给你</s>
<time>836_00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,757</time>
<s>就可丁可卵5点钟下班</s>
<time>837_00:25:21,117 --> 00:25:22,917</time>
<s>说你明天再来</s>
<time>838_00:25:23,637 --> 00:25:23,997</time>
<s>这是一个印象</s>
<time>839_00:25:24,357 --> 00:25:25,797</time>
<s>二个印象是什么呢</s>
<time>840_00:25:26,157 --> 00:25:26,517</time>
<s>我们在巴黎街上</s>
<time>841_00:25:27,957 --> 00:25:28,677</time>
<s>看见一场游行</s>
<time>842_00:25:30,117 --> 00:25:32,625</time>
<s>开头这个翻译就说</s>
<time>843_00:25:32,985 --> 00:25:35,505</time>
<s>这个是法国那个巴黎工人</s>
<time>844_00:25:35,865 --> 00:25:38,745</time>
<s>就是抗议加班</s>
<time>845_00:25:39,105 --> 00:25:41,245</time>
<s>后来他又看了一下那个标语</s>
<time>846_00:25:41,605 --> 00:25:43,405</time>
<s>跟我说把我听蒙了</s>
<time>847_00:25:43,765 --> 00:25:45,205</time>
<s>他说还不是</s>
<time>848_00:25:45,565 --> 00:25:48,445</time>
<s>他们不是抗议让他们加班</s>
<time>849_00:25:48,805 --> 00:25:50,245</time>
<s>他们是抗议老板</s>
<time>850_00:25:50,601 --> 00:25:52,761</time>
<s>让那些愿意加班的人加班</s>
<time>851_00:25:53,121 --> 00:25:53,481</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>852_00:25:53,841 --> 00:25:54,201</time>
<s>你明自吗</s>
<time>853_00:25:54,561 --> 00:25:56,001</time>
<s>就是说我可以自由选择</s>
<time>854_00:25:56,361 --> 00:25:57,081</time>
<s>可是这种自由选择</s>
<time>855_00:25:57,441 --> 00:25:58,161</time>
<s>成面积的自由选择</s>
<time>856_00:25:58,521 --> 00:25:59,961</time>
<s>最后会带来一个问题</s>
<time>857_00:26:00,321 --> 00:26:01,389</time>
<s>就不是自由选择了</s>
<time>858_00:26:01,749 --> 00:26:02,109</time>
<s>那些个愿意加班的</s>
<time>859_00:26:02,469 --> 00:26:03,909</time>
<s>他就挣得多</s>
<time>860_00:26:04,269 --> 00:26:04,989</time>
<s>我就被淘汰了</s>
<time>861_00:26:05,349 --> 00:26:05,709</time>
<s>就有压力</s>
<time>862_00:26:06,069 --> 00:26:08,949</time>
<s>所以你像最深刻的一个问题是差别</s>
<time>863_00:26:09,309 --> 00:26:10,029</time>
<s>那这事怎么办呢</s>
