<time>432_00:13:58,497 --> 00:14:00,297</time>
<s>一种动物性的东西</s>
<time>433_00:14:00,657 --> 00:14:02,457</time>
<s>消除是不可能的</s>
<time>434_00:14:02,817 --> 00:14:04,257</time>
<s>但是怎么跟它相处呢</s>
<time>435_00:14:04,617 --> 00:14:05,337</time>
<s>你们有经验吗</s>
<time>436_00:14:06,401 --> 00:14:08,201</time>
<s>我觉得这是我们的局限</s>
<time>437_00:14:08,561 --> 00:14:09,641</time>
<s>要承认这个</s>
<time>438_00:14:10,001 --> 00:14:10,721</time>
<s>就像您刚才说</s>
<time>439_00:14:11,081 --> 00:14:12,881</time>
<s>电脑现在不是可以作曲吗</s>
<time>440_00:14:13,241 --> 00:14:14,681</time>
<s>因为它的学习能力强到</s>
<time>441_00:14:15,041 --> 00:14:16,841</time>
<s>你输入什么音乐</s>
<time>442_00:14:17,201 --> 00:14:18,641</time>
<s>它可以很快分析</s>
<time>443_00:14:19,001 --> 00:14:20,081</time>
<s>你只要需要写的时候</s>
<time>444_00:14:20,441 --> 00:14:21,881</time>
<s>我需要一个贝多芬那样的作品</s>
<time>445_00:14:22,241 --> 00:14:22,961</time>
<s>它马上给你出一个</s>
<time>446_00:14:24,041 --> 00:14:26,193</time>
<s>是完美到就如同下象棋</s>
<time>447_00:14:26,553 --> 00:14:27,633</time>
<s>事实上你认为没有感情</s>
<time>448_00:14:27,993 --> 00:14:29,073</time>
<s>它是有感情嘛</s>
<time>449_00:14:29,433 --> 00:14:31,233</time>
<s>其实那如果未来</s>
<time>450_00:14:31,593 --> 00:14:32,673</time>
<s>我要和机器比的话</s>
<time>451_00:14:33,033 --> 00:14:35,193</time>
<s>可能我唯一的优势</s>
<time>452_00:14:35,553 --> 00:14:36,258</time>
<s>就是我可以犯错</s>
<time>453_00:14:37,698 --> 00:14:39,858</time>
<s>我可以写得不太好</s>
<time>454_00:14:40,218 --> 00:14:41,298</time>
<s>你要跟它比好</s>
<time>455_00:14:41,658 --> 00:14:43,458</time>
<s>就是不可能</s>
<time>456_00:14:43,818 --> 00:14:45,258</time>
<s>那我觉得其实人人都是</s>
<time>457_00:14:45,618 --> 00:14:47,418</time>
<s>对我来说我是有缺陷的</s>
<time>458_00:14:47,778 --> 00:14:49,218</time>
<s>我有我的局限</s>
<time>459_00:14:49,578 --> 00:14:50,658</time>
<s>那可能就这个部分</s>
<time>460_00:14:51,018 --> 00:14:53,538</time>
<s>是刚好我觉得是我</s>
<time>461_00:14:54,258 --> 00:14:54,978</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>462_00:14:55,338 --> 00:14:55,698</time>
<s>不然的话</s>
<time>463_00:14:57,130 --> 00:14:57,850</time>
<s>比如说嫉妒</s>
<time>464_00:14:58,210 --> 00:15:00,010</time>
<s>像你刚才我当然理解你了</s>
<time>465_00:15:00,370 --> 00:15:01,450</time>
<s>你怎么可以不在意</s>
<time>466_00:15:01,810 --> 00:15:02,530</time>
<s>别人怎么说你呢</s>
<time>467_00:15:02,890 --> 00:15:03,250</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>468_00:15:03,610 --> 00:15:04,330</time>
<s>没有人会这样</s>
<time>469_00:15:05,770 --> 00:15:08,634</time>
<s>就是但是确实是你只能</s>
<time>470_00:15:08,994 --> 00:15:10,434</time>
<s>因为我跟他不一样</s>
<time>471_00:15:10,794 --> 00:15:12,594</time>
<s>因为他们作为明星来说</s>
<time>472_00:15:12,954 --> 00:15:14,754</time>
<s>他承担承受这种东西</s>
<time>473_00:15:15,114 --> 00:15:16,913</time>
<s>我觉得更加多</s>
<time>474_00:15:17,273 --> 00:15:17,993</time>
<s>确实非常不容易</s>
<time>475_00:15:18,353 --> 00:15:19,433</time>
<s>我能理解</s>
<time>476_00:15:19,793 --> 00:15:21,233</time>
<s>但是尽管这样</s>
<time>477_00:15:21,593 --> 00:15:24,113</time>
<s>我也不愿意让别人说自己</s>
<time>478_00:15:24,473 --> 00:15:28,065</time>
<s>就是其实就是不要理我</s>
<time>479_00:15:28,425 --> 00:15:29,145</time>
<s>不要理我</s>
<time>480_00:15:29,505 --> 00:15:30,945</time>
<s>就我特别爱旅行的原因</s>
<time>481_00:15:31,305 --> 00:15:32,745</time>
<s>就是你去到一个地方</s>
<time>482_00:15:33,105 --> 00:15:34,545</time>
<s>根本没有人知道你是谁</s>
<time>483_00:15:34,905 --> 00:15:37,769</time>
<s>你就是过客一样蛮好的</s>
<time>484_00:15:38,129 --> 00:15:40,289</time>
<s>不然就会有人会看你什么的</s>
<time>485_00:15:42,089 --> 00:15:42,809</time>
<s>就会很累</s>
<time>486_00:15:43,169 --> 00:15:45,329</time>
<s>对就是生活在一个周围人</s>
<time>487_00:15:45,689 --> 00:15:46,769</time>
<s>对你的这个评价当中</s>
<time>488_00:15:47,129 --> 00:15:47,489</time>
<s>是</s>
<time>489_00:15:47,849 --> 00:15:48,209</time>
<s>我觉得做明星</s>
<time>490_00:15:48,569 --> 00:15:49,289</time>
<s>这简直就是宿命</s>
<time>491_00:15:50,729 --> 00:15:51,089</time>
<s>我觉得挺好的</s>
<time>492_00:15:51,809 --> 00:15:53,249</time>
<s>好在哪儿给我们讲讲</s>
<time>493_00:15:53,609 --> 00:15:55,049</time>
<s>我小时候挺反感的</s>
<time>494_00:15:55,409 --> 00:15:57,200</time>
<s>我还真的在副驾里砸东西</s>
<time>495_00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:00,080</time>
<s>就事情两面性</s>
<time>496_00:16:00,440 --> 00:16:01,880</time>
<s>你得到这个它本来就带了这个</s>
<time>497_00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,400</time>
<s>那所以就很正常</s>
<time>498_00:16:04,760 --> 00:16:05,480</time>
<s>刚刚那个嫉妒也是</s>
<time>499_00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:07,264</time>
<s>我小时候就特别</s>
<time>500_00:16:07,624 --> 00:16:08,344</time>
<s>我小时候有很多戒律</s>
<time>501_00:16:08,704 --> 00:16:10,144</time>
<s>我有一段时间是受很多戒</s>
<time>502_00:16:11,584 --> 00:16:11,944</time>
<s>我看到什么</s>
<time>503_00:16:12,304 --> 00:16:14,104</time>
<s>贪嗔痴慢疑里面我的自私</s>
<time>504_00:16:14,464 --> 00:16:15,184</time>
<s>我都刚开始不愿意接受</s>
<time>505_00:16:15,544 --> 00:16:16,984</time>
<s>我说我怎么会自私</s>
<time>506_00:16:17,344 --> 00:16:17,704</time>
<s>我还跟自己对话呢</s>
<time>507_00:16:18,064 --> 00:16:19,504</time>
<s>我说我根本不自私我怎么</s>
<time>508_00:16:19,864 --> 00:16:20,224</time>
<s>到最后</s>
<time>509_00:16:21,304 --> 00:16:24,544</time>
<s>比如说嫉妒贪婪自卑</s>
<time>510_00:16:24,904 --> 00:16:25,984</time>
<s>不自信傲慢</s>
<time>511_00:16:26,344 --> 00:16:27,775</time>
<s>所有的东西我都觉得我没有的</s>
<time>512_00:16:28,855 --> 00:16:29,935</time>
<s>我真正跟它们在一起</s>
<time>513_00:16:30,295 --> 00:16:30,655</time>
<s>并且我认为</s>
<time>514_00:16:31,015 --> 00:16:31,375</time>
<s>这是我很大的宝藏</s>
<time>515_00:16:31,735 --> 00:16:35,335</time>
<s>作为人本身存在的一种能力</s>
<time>516_00:16:35,695 --> 00:16:37,119</time>
<s>是在于我完全接受它们</s>
<time>517_00:16:38,919 --> 00:16:40,719</time>
<s>就是我真的毫无避讳跟别人讲</s>
<time>518_00:16:41,079 --> 00:16:41,799</time>
<s>我说我也挺自私的</s>
<time>519_00:16:42,159 --> 00:16:42,879</time>
<s>我先声明对不起</s>
<time>520_00:16:43,239 --> 00:16:43,959</time>
<s>接下来谈这个事</s>
<time>521_00:16:44,319 --> 00:16:45,039</time>
<s>我说可能来自于</s>
<time>522_00:16:45,399 --> 00:16:46,838</time>
<s>我的自私而创造的</s>
<time>523_00:16:47,198 --> 00:16:47,918</time>
<s>我说如果你们愿意</s>
<time>524_00:16:48,278 --> 00:16:48,638</time>
<s>跟我去谈这个话题</s>
<time>525_00:16:48,998 --> 00:16:49,718</time>
<s>我们就谈</s>
<time>526_00:16:50,078 --> 00:16:51,518</time>
<s>如果是当然我们也可以谈一些</s>
<time>527_00:16:51,878 --> 00:16:53,318</time>
<s>更形而上的追求</s>
<time>528_00:16:53,678 --> 00:16:55,478</time>
<s>但是我说我无法避免掉</s>
<time>529_00:16:55,838 --> 00:16:57,629</time>
<s>我是如此的庸俗</s>
<time>530_00:16:57,989 --> 00:17:01,229</time>
<s>但我也并不觉得庸俗是不好的</s>
<time>531_00:17:01,589 --> 00:17:03,389</time>
<s>你说咱们都是自己治疗自己</s>
<time>532_00:17:03,749 --> 00:17:05,549</time>
<s>我觉得有一个就是</s>
<time>533_00:17:05,909 --> 00:17:07,693</time>
<s>这就更证明它是个情绪</s>
<time>534_00:17:08,053 --> 00:17:10,573</time>
<s>它没有本质的这个真实性</s>
<time>535_00:17:10,933 --> 00:17:12,013</time>
<s>为什么比如说</s>
<time>536_00:17:12,373 --> 00:17:13,453</time>
<s>好你有个主持人你主持得比我好</s>
<time>537_00:17:13,813 --> 00:17:14,533</time>
<s>我感到很嫉妒</s>
<time>538_00:17:14,893 --> 00:17:15,613</time>
<s>对吧很嫉妒</s>
<time>539_00:17:15,973 --> 00:17:18,851</time>
<s>后来我发现怎么就解脱了呢</s>
<time>540_00:17:19,211 --> 00:17:20,291</time>
<s>就是有一天就过去</s>
<time>541_00:17:22,091 --> 00:17:23,891</time>
<s>我太嫉妒你了</s>
<time>542_00:17:24,251 --> 00:17:25,691</time>
<s>你怎么做得那么好</s>
<time>543_00:17:26,051 --> 00:17:29,643</time>
<s>我发现就是当你表达的同时</s>
<time>544_00:17:30,003 --> 00:17:32,523</time>
<s>这个事就真的不算个事好奇怪</s>
<time>545_00:17:32,883 --> 00:17:33,243</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>546_00:17:33,603 --> 00:17:34,683</time>
<s>就是你表达出来了</s>
<time>547_00:17:35,043 --> 00:17:37,186</time>
<s>你坦白了</s>
<time>548_00:17:37,546 --> 00:17:38,266</time>
<s>它就不折磨你了</s>
<time>549_00:17:38,626 --> 00:17:39,346</time>
<s>那就说明他其实</s>
<time>550_00:17:39,706 --> 00:17:41,506</time>
<s>还是对你不构成威胁</s>
<time>551_00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:42,946</time>
<s>比如你俩风格不一样</s>
<time>552_00:17:44,386 --> 00:17:46,186</time>
<s>你懂吗比如我要听到一首歌</s>
<time>553_00:17:46,546 --> 00:17:49,785</time>
<s>这个歌好听到我觉得</s>
<time>554_00:17:50,145 --> 00:17:52,305</time>
<s>我就是觉得我就是太嫉妒他</s>
<time>555_00:17:52,665 --> 00:17:54,105</time>
<s>嫉妒到不行</s>
<time>556_00:17:54,465 --> 00:17:56,265</time>
<s>甚至说我不想让别人听到这个歌</s>
<time>557_00:17:57,336 --> 00:17:58,416</time>
<s>对他这个说的是</s>
<time>558_00:17:58,776 --> 00:17:59,496</time>
<s>就是很</s>
<time>559_00:17:59,856 --> 00:18:02,736</time>
<s>就是你要想做的事情</s>
<time>560_00:18:03,096 --> 00:18:05,256</time>
<s>因为比如说你很好他很好</s>
<time>561_00:18:05,616 --> 00:18:06,336</time>
<s>大家都可以好</s>
<time>562_00:18:06,696 --> 00:18:08,479</time>
<s>但是我们可能是不同面向的</s>
<time>563_00:18:08,839 --> 00:18:12,079</time>
<s>你在这个方面比较好</s>
<time>564_00:18:12,439 --> 00:18:13,159</time>
<s>当然可以</s>
<time>565_00:18:13,519 --> 00:18:14,239</time>
<s>但是有的时候</s>
<time>566_00:18:14,599 --> 00:18:15,679</time>
<s>那个人的好</s>
<time>567_00:18:16,039 --> 00:18:18,557</time>
<s>刚好就是你特别想成为的那种</s>
<time>568_00:18:18,917 --> 00:18:19,277</time>
<s>但有吗</s>
<time>569_00:18:19,997 --> 00:18:20,357</time>
<s>有啊</s>
<time>570_00:18:21,077 --> 00:18:21,797</time>
<s>气死</s>
<time>571_00:18:22,157 --> 00:18:22,877</time>
<s>真的有</s>
<time>572_00:18:23,237 --> 00:18:24,677</time>
<s>不是有完全跟我一样</s>
<time>573_00:18:25,037 --> 00:18:27,908</time>
<s>是完全我想成为的那样的</s>
<time>574_00:18:28,268 --> 00:18:29,348</time>
<s>那你就是会觉得</s>
<time>575_00:18:29,708 --> 00:18:31,148</time>
<s>真的是嫉妒</s>
<time>576_00:18:31,508 --> 00:18:32,588</time>
<s>而且有一些东西</s>
<time>577_00:18:32,948 --> 00:18:34,388</time>
<s>也是怎么说天分吧</s>
<time>578_00:18:34,748 --> 00:18:36,908</time>
<s>比如说做艺术做演员的</s>
<time>579_00:18:37,268 --> 00:18:38,691</time>
<s>比如歌手</s>
<time>580_00:18:39,051 --> 00:18:40,491</time>
<s>就为什么他可以拥有</s>
<time>581_00:18:40,851 --> 00:18:42,651</time>
<s>那样一个音色</s>
<time>582_00:18:43,011 --> 00:18:43,371</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>583_00:18:44,451 --> 00:18:45,531</time>
<s>就气死你</s>
<time>584_00:18:45,891 --> 00:18:46,611</time>
<s>就是没办法</s>
<time>585_00:18:46,971 --> 00:18:47,689</time>
<s>这怎么办呢</s>
<time>586_00:18:48,049 --> 00:18:49,489</time>
<s>你怎么练习都是没用</s>
<time>587_00:18:49,849 --> 00:18:50,929</time>
<s>就像有一些表演的</s>
<time>588_00:18:51,289 --> 00:18:54,169</time>
<s>其实过去那些伟大的电影明星</s>
<time>589_00:18:54,529 --> 00:18:56,689</time>
<s>那些歌手无数都是这样</s>
<time>590_00:18:57,049 --> 00:18:58,840</time>
<s>真的想想都也还是很</s>
<time>591_00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,000</time>
<s>现实生活里的嫉妒呢</s>
<time>592_00:19:01,360 --> 00:19:03,880</time>
<s>您说的那种就还好</s>
<time>593_00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:05,320</time>
<s>我觉得还好</s>
<time>594_00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:08,543</time>
<s>其实反而是对那些</s>
<time>595_00:19:08,903 --> 00:19:10,343</time>
<s>特别想成为的那些</s>
<time>596_00:19:10,703 --> 00:19:12,503</time>
<s>有的时候他也是会让你</s>
<time>597_00:19:12,863 --> 00:19:14,303</time>
<s>就是不想要做这个</s>
<time>598_00:19:14,663 --> 00:19:15,743</time>
<s>比如说我</s>
<time>599_00:19:16,103 --> 00:19:18,261</time>
<s>我不知道你演戏会怎么样</s>
<time>600_00:19:18,621 --> 00:19:19,341</time>
<s>比如我写歌</s>
<time>601_00:19:20,781 --> 00:19:21,141</time>
<s>我要写一个歌</s>
<time>602_00:19:21,501 --> 00:19:23,301</time>
<s>我之前听了一个歌</s>
<time>603_00:19:23,661 --> 00:19:24,741</time>
<s>听完这个歌以后</s>
<time>604_00:19:25,101 --> 00:19:26,901</time>
<s>我决定我不要写</s>
<time>605_00:19:27,261 --> 00:19:30,491</time>
<s>因为我要写的已经在了</s>
<time>606_00:19:30,851 --> 00:19:33,011</time>
<s>而且他比你做得好太多</s>
<time>607_00:19:33,371 --> 00:19:34,451</time>
<s>你明白那种感觉</s>
<time>608_00:19:34,811 --> 00:19:35,171</time>
<s>这应该是高兴吧</s>
<time>609_00:19:35,531 --> 00:19:37,331</time>
<s>这叫既生瑜何生亮</s>
<time>610_00:19:37,691 --> 00:19:39,114</time>
<s>那个李白不是还写过一个</s>
<time>611_00:19:39,474 --> 00:19:40,914</time>
<s>他去一个什么楼我忘记了</s>
<time>612_00:19:41,274 --> 00:19:41,994</time>
<s>他想题首诗</s>
<time>613_00:19:42,354 --> 00:19:44,514</time>
<s>发现说崔颢题诗题上头</s>
<time>614_00:19:44,874 --> 00:19:45,234</time>
<s>黄鹤楼嘛</s>
<time>615_00:19:45,594 --> 00:19:46,314</time>
<s>是吧他说我就不用写了</s>
<time>616_00:19:46,674 --> 00:19:48,112</time>
<s>但那时候你不觉得是</s>
<time>617_00:19:48,472 --> 00:19:49,552</time>
<s>感到知音了吗</s>
<time>618_00:19:49,912 --> 00:19:50,992</time>
<s>不是我反倒为什么</s>
<time>619_00:19:51,352 --> 00:19:52,072</time>
<s>亚东哥我反倒觉得</s>
<time>620_00:19:52,432 --> 00:19:53,872</time>
<s>你很让我尊重呢</s>
<time>621_00:19:54,232 --> 00:19:56,032</time>
<s>你有一颗去尊重别人的那颗心</s>
<time>622_00:19:56,392 --> 00:19:57,112</time>
<s>我反倒是</s>
<time>623_00:19:57,472 --> 00:19:58,902</time>
<s>你刚才谈的话题</s>
<time>624_00:19:59,262 --> 00:19:59,622</time>
<s>反倒让我尊重</s>
<time>625_00:19:59,982 --> 00:20:01,782</time>
<s>而不是说你说嫉</s>
<time>626_00:20:02,142 --> 00:20:05,382</time>
<s>我觉得嫉妒是一个很大的动力</s>
<time>627_00:20:05,742 --> 00:20:07,542</time>
<s>其实我自己接受我自卑</s>
<time>628_00:20:07,902 --> 00:20:09,324</time>
<s>完了傲慢自私这些东西</s>
<time>629_00:20:09,684 --> 00:20:10,764</time>
<s>它变成了让我现在</s>
<time>630_00:20:11,124 --> 00:20:11,844</time>
<s>长成我现在这个样子</s>
<time>631_00:20:12,204 --> 00:20:13,284</time>
<s>你就是艺术家才会这样</s>
<time>632_00:20:13,644 --> 00:20:16,164</time>
<s>就是他有一种磊落的尊重说</s>
<time>633_00:20:16,524 --> 00:20:17,604</time>
<s>我本来想做</s>
<time>634_00:20:17,964 --> 00:20:18,682</time>
<s>但是你已经做到了</s>
<time>635_00:20:19,042 --> 00:20:19,762</time>
<s>我就不用做了</s>
<time>636_00:20:20,122 --> 00:20:20,842</time>
<s>对更多的时候</s>
<time>637_00:20:21,202 --> 00:20:23,362</time>
<s>引来的反应可能是贬低对方</s>
<time>638_00:20:23,722 --> 00:20:25,882</time>
<s>抹黑对方拒绝承认对方</s>
<time>639_00:20:26,242 --> 00:20:27,322</time>
<s>对但你是却是欣赏他</s>
<time>640_00:20:27,682 --> 00:20:29,112</time>
<s>但我反倒很尊重</s>
<time>641_00:20:29,472 --> 00:20:29,832</time>
<s>对不是</s>
<time>642_00:20:30,192 --> 00:20:31,992</time>
<s>因为比如说透过努力</s>
<time>643_00:20:32,352 --> 00:20:33,432</time>
<s>可以做到的事情</s>
<time>644_00:20:33,792 --> 00:20:34,872</time>
<s>我是可以不嫉妒的</s>
<time>645_00:20:36,312 --> 00:20:38,112</time>
<s>但是如果是你通过努力</s>
<time>646_00:20:38,454 --> 00:20:39,894</time>
<s>都不可以做到的事情</s>
<time>647_00:20:40,254 --> 00:20:40,974</time>
<s>你就只能嫉妒</s>
<time>648_00:20:41,334 --> 00:20:42,054</time>
<s>你没有办法</s>
<time>649_00:20:42,414 --> 00:20:45,294</time>
<s>因为我无论如何都不会</s>
<time>650_00:20:45,654 --> 00:20:46,374</time>
<s>不会做到这个</s>
<time>651_00:20:46,734 --> 00:20:47,454</time>
<s>是会有这样</s>
<time>652_00:20:47,814 --> 00:20:48,174</time>
<s>偶尔会有这样</s>
<time>653_00:20:48,532 --> 00:20:49,252</time>
<s>我反而觉得是更好</s>
<time>654_00:20:49,612 --> 00:20:52,492</time>
<s>您这个您是故意贬低了自己</s>
<time>655_00:20:52,852 --> 00:20:55,732</time>
<s>但是我会使用嫉妒的</s>
<time>656_00:20:56,092 --> 00:20:58,962</time>
<s>有一段时间我特别麻木</s>
<time>657_00:20:59,322 --> 00:21:00,402</time>
<s>我对表演也不是特别热爱</s>
<time>658_00:21:00,762 --> 00:21:02,202</time>
<s>完了之后我就只是想在家待着</s>
<time>659_00:21:02,562 --> 00:21:04,362</time>
<s>完了之后我就会故意找那些</s>
<time>660_00:21:04,722 --> 00:21:06,882</time>
<s>触手可及的好的演员</s>
<time>661_00:21:07,242 --> 00:21:09,024</time>
<s>某一些而不是要好得不行了</s>
<time>662_00:21:09,384 --> 00:21:10,824</time>
<s>我觉得也会像您那样</s>
<time>663_00:21:11,184 --> 00:21:12,984</time>
<s>就是说我也就别演了吧</s>
<time>664_00:21:13,344 --> 00:21:14,784</time>
<s>但你会假设一个目标</s>
<time>665_00:21:15,144 --> 00:21:16,584</time>
<s>因为我很脆弱</s>
<time>666_00:21:16,944 --> 00:21:18,741</time>
<s>我老是喜欢找一个标点符号</s>
<time>667_00:21:19,101 --> 00:21:20,181</time>
<s>为标志物来对打</s>
<time>668_00:21:20,541 --> 00:21:21,261</time>
<s>我说好这段时间我就用</s>
<time>669_00:21:21,621 --> 00:21:24,501</time>
<s>我嫉妒他现在做得这么好的方式</s>
<time>670_00:21:24,861 --> 00:21:25,221</time>
<s>我把这个嫉妒</s>
<time>671_00:21:25,581 --> 00:21:26,661</time>
<s>变成我的某一种动力</s>
<time>672_00:21:27,021 --> 00:21:28,461</time>
<s>但我可能进步了一段时间</s>
<time>673_00:21:28,811 --> 00:21:30,611</time>
<s>这个嫉妒的能量已经没有了</s>
<time>674_00:21:30,971 --> 00:21:32,771</time>
<s>你当然咱们都知道</s>
<time>675_00:21:33,131 --> 00:21:34,211</time>
<s>这个坤哥小时候的</s>
<time>676_00:21:34,571 --> 00:21:36,011</time>
<s>一些家庭状况</s>
<time>677_00:21:36,371 --> 00:21:37,451</time>
<s>你觉得如果小时候</s>
<time>678_00:21:37,811 --> 00:21:40,313</time>
<s>家庭状况不太美满</s>
<time>679_00:21:40,673 --> 00:21:42,113</time>
<s>对孩子的这个影响</s>
<time>680_00:21:42,473 --> 00:21:43,913</time>
<s>是可逆的吗</s>
<time>681_00:21:44,273 --> 00:21:45,353</time>
<s>是可更正的吗</s>
<time>682_00:21:45,713 --> 00:21:46,793</time>
<s>我自己觉得我</s>
<time>683_00:21:47,153 --> 00:21:47,873</time>
<s>还是阶段性的</s>
<time>684_00:21:48,233 --> 00:21:51,110</time>
<s>我小时候觉得特别生气</s>
<time>685_00:21:51,470 --> 00:21:52,910</time>
<s>便随入负面的觉得不满足</s>
<time>686_00:21:53,270 --> 00:21:55,070</time>
<s>为什么不是一个正常好的家庭</s>
<time>687_00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:56,510</time>
<s>长大了之后呢</s>
<time>688_00:21:56,870 --> 00:21:59,020</time>
<s>我觉得其实横向比较</s>
<time>689_00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:01,180</time>
<s>有些时候幸福感是比较出来的</s>
<time>690_00:22:01,540 --> 00:22:01,900</time>
<s>会觉得其实那个时候</s>
<time>691_00:22:02,260 --> 00:22:03,340</time>
<s>也大概都差不多</s>
<time>692_00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:04,420</time>
<s>你也就多不了多少</s>
<time>693_00:22:04,780 --> 00:22:05,500</time>
<s>我也少不了多少</s>
<time>694_00:22:05,860 --> 00:22:07,660</time>
<s>再到现在回过头去看</s>
<time>695_00:22:08,020 --> 00:22:09,441</time>
<s>我特别感谢我小时候</s>
<time>696_00:22:09,801 --> 00:22:11,961</time>
<s>有一些经历我反倒觉得特别珍贵</s>
<time>697_00:22:12,321 --> 00:22:12,681</time>
<s>因为不然的话</s>
<time>698_00:22:13,041 --> 00:22:14,481</time>
<s>有些东西我真的体会不到</s>
<time>699_00:22:14,841 --> 00:22:16,281</time>
<s>但是你说的就是说这种</s>
<time>700_00:22:16,641 --> 00:22:19,518</time>
<s>咱们都是小地方长大的这个孩子</s>
<time>701_00:22:19,878 --> 00:22:20,958</time>
<s>其实我有个观察很武断</s>
<time>702_00:22:22,038 --> 00:22:23,478</time>
<s>就是往往有些天生</s>
<time>703_00:22:23,838 --> 00:22:26,358</time>
<s>生存环境比较优越感的孩子</s>
<time>704_00:22:26,718 --> 00:22:27,798</time>
<s>今天也是我的朋友</s>
<time>705_00:22:28,158 --> 00:22:28,878</time>
<s>我经常会发现</s>
<time>706_00:22:29,228 --> 00:22:30,668</time>
<s>其实我很希望成为他们</s>
<time>707_00:22:31,028 --> 00:22:33,188</time>
<s>就是他们就是我口说我心</s>
<time>708_00:22:33,548 --> 00:22:34,268</time>
<s>讲什么就讲什么</s>
<time>709_00:22:34,628 --> 00:22:36,788</time>
<s>就是很得意扬扬的对吧</s>
<time>710_00:22:37,148 --> 00:22:38,228</time>
<s>但是你看我注意到</s>
<time>711_00:22:38,588 --> 00:22:39,649</time>
<s>你说话里边</s>
<time>712_00:22:40,009 --> 00:22:41,089</time>
<s>这个你要叫自卑吗</s>
<time>713_00:22:41,449 --> 00:22:42,169</time>
<s>还是叫什么呢</s>
<time>714_00:22:42,529 --> 00:22:44,689</time>
<s>就是你看他时时刻刻会注意</s>
<time>715_00:22:45,049 --> 00:22:47,569</time>
<s>就是说当然我也不一定是对的</s>
<time>716_00:22:47,929 --> 00:22:50,086</time>
<s>他会注意到就是说这种</s>
<time>717_00:22:50,446 --> 00:22:52,966</time>
<s>我说的别人会不会同意</s>
<time>718_00:22:53,326 --> 00:22:54,406</time>
<s>或者说我说的</s>
<time>719_00:22:54,766 --> 00:22:56,926</time>
<s>有没有让别人觉得我在吹牛</s>
<time>720_00:22:57,286 --> 00:22:58,726</time>
<s>我说的有没有让别人觉得</s>
<time>721_00:22:59,086 --> 00:23:00,875</time>
<s>我太拿自己当回事了</s>
<time>722_00:23:01,235 --> 00:23:03,395</time>
<s>你觉不觉得有点自卑感的人</s>
<time>723_00:23:03,755 --> 00:23:04,835</time>
<s>经常在跟人交往中</s>
<time>724_00:23:05,195 --> 00:23:06,995</time>
<s>往往有自己的这个觉察</s>
<time>725_00:23:07,355 --> 00:23:09,155</time>
<s>就对自己的一个提醒</s>
<time>726_00:23:09,497 --> 00:23:11,297</time>
<s>但我不知道这是好还是不好</s>
<time>727_00:23:11,657 --> 00:23:13,817</time>
<s>就是就往往会好像</s>
<time>728_00:23:14,177 --> 00:23:15,617</time>
<s>自信心不足有点</s>
<time>729_00:23:15,977 --> 00:23:17,057</time>
<s>对自己的正确</s>
<time>730_00:23:17,417 --> 00:23:19,217</time>
<s>就是不太确信</s>
<time>731_00:23:19,573 --> 00:23:21,373</time>
<s>我现在不自卑</s>
<time>732_00:23:21,733 --> 00:23:22,813</time>
<s>我也不观察别人</s>
<time>733_00:23:23,173 --> 00:23:25,333</time>
<s>但是我觉得要带着谦卑</s>
<time>734_00:23:25,693 --> 00:23:27,853</time>
<s>我小时候曾经在做团队之前</s>
<time>735_00:23:28,213 --> 00:23:29,293</time>
<s>我是个人工作室</s>
<time>736_00:23:29,642 --> 00:23:32,162</time>
<s>那就找我的戏给我合作</s>
<time>737_00:23:32,522 --> 00:23:34,682</time>
<s>就选择两个要还是不要了</s>
<time>738_00:23:35,042 --> 00:23:35,762</time>
<s>但是有时我在推</s>
<time>739_00:23:36,122 --> 00:23:36,842</time>
<s>拒绝一个事情的时候</s>
<time>740_00:23:37,202 --> 00:23:38,282</time>
<s>无意中伤害了别人的心</s>
<time>741_00:23:38,642 --> 00:23:39,703</time>
<s>因为别人本来找你的</s>
<time>742_00:23:40,063 --> 00:23:41,143</time>
<s>而陈坤你当时是顺利</s>
<time>743_00:23:41,503 --> 00:23:42,223</time>
<s>当然也不要太过分</s>
<time>744_00:23:42,583 --> 00:23:44,383</time>
<s>但是还是伤害了别人</s>
<time>745_00:23:44,743 --> 00:23:46,543</time>
<s>而当我在做团队（公司）的时候</s>
<time>746_00:23:46,903 --> 00:23:48,343</time>
<s>在现实意义上</s>
<time>747_00:23:48,703 --> 00:23:50,860</time>
<s>我觉得我终于明白了</s>
<time>748_00:23:51,220 --> 00:23:51,940</time>
<s>不应该做这个事</s>
<time>749_00:23:52,300 --> 00:23:53,020</time>
<s>是我终于知道</s>
<time>750_00:23:53,380 --> 00:23:56,260</time>
<s>我也成了以前去像他们来找我</s>
<time>751_00:23:56,620 --> 00:23:58,420</time>
<s>去演戏的那个彼方</s>
<time>752_00:23:58,780 --> 00:23:59,849</time>
<s>当我明白这一点的时候</s>
<time>753_00:24:00,209 --> 00:24:01,289</time>
<s>我也不是在后悔</s>
<time>754_00:24:01,649 --> 00:24:03,089</time>
<s>而是我觉得是</s>
<time>755_00:24:03,449 --> 00:24:04,889</time>
<s>其实我们就是一张嘴巴</s>
<time>756_00:24:05,249 --> 00:24:07,049</time>
<s>有时候}嘴巴一时之快</s>
<time>757_00:24:07,409 --> 00:24:08,129</time>
<s>因为我不自卑的缘故</s>
<time>758_00:24:08,489 --> 00:24:09,209</time>
<s>是我觉得每个人</s>
<time>759_00:24:09,569 --> 00:24:09,910</time>
<s>还蛮平等的</s>
<time>760_00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:10,630</time>
<s>我最近一个</s>
<time>761_00:24:10,990 --> 00:24:12,070</time>
<s>就是一个体会</s>
<time>762_00:24:12,430 --> 00:24:12,790</time>
<s>一个老师跟我讲了</s>
<time>763_00:24:13,150 --> 00:24:14,950</time>
<s>我觉得所有的事情都是不管是什么</s>
<time>764_00:24:15,310 --> 00:24:17,110</time>
<s>你能不能在你这一辈子里面</s>
<time>765_00:24:17,470 --> 00:24:18,910</time>
<s>把你天生的这些东西</s>
<time>766_00:24:19,270 --> 00:24:20,346</time>
<s>能够再进一步</s>
<time>767_00:24:20,706 --> 00:24:21,786</time>
<s>就是无论是你对自己的</s>
<time>768_00:24:22,146 --> 00:24:22,506</time>
<s>个性的觉察</s>
<time>769_00:24:22,866 --> 00:24:24,306</time>
<s>那自卑可以就是导致成</s>
<time>770_00:24:24,666 --> 00:24:26,466</time>
<s>你退一步你就你自毁</s>
<time>771_00:24:26,826 --> 00:24:27,906</time>
<s>再进一步是你怎么用它</s>
<time>772_00:24:28,266 --> 00:24:28,986</time>
<s>你变得谦卑</s>
<time>773_00:24:29,346 --> 00:24:31,135</time>
<s>你可以变得更丰盛</s>
<time>774_00:24:31,495 --> 00:24:33,295</time>
<s>那他说一个人是这样</s>
<time>775_00:24:33,655 --> 00:24:34,375</time>
<s>就一种文化都是这样</s>
<time>776_00:24:34,735 --> 00:24:35,455</time>
<s>就讲大一点</s>
<time>777_00:24:35,815 --> 00:24:36,175</time>
<s>那我们每个人</s>
<time>778_00:24:36,535 --> 00:24:37,975</time>
<s>你忽然生在了中国</s>
<time>779_00:24:38,335 --> 00:24:39,415</time>
<s>你忽然碰到了中国的文化</s>
<time>780_00:24:39,775 --> 00:24:40,115</time>
<s>你忽然</s>
<time>781_00:24:40,475 --> 00:24:40,835</time>
<s>那你这一辈子能不能</s>
<time>782_00:24:41,195 --> 00:24:42,635</time>
<s>把你所有的这些东西</s>
<time>783_00:24:42,995 --> 00:24:44,435</time>
<s>你能够再进一步</s>
<time>784_00:24:44,795 --> 00:24:45,515</time>
<s>他说这个再进一步</s>
<time>785_00:24:45,875 --> 00:24:47,675</time>
<s>就是最大的一个力量</s>
<time>786_00:24:48,035 --> 00:24:49,835</time>
<s>所以我就觉得你天生是什么</s>
<time>787_00:24:50,192 --> 00:24:51,272</time>
<s>自卑自信都不重要</s>
<time>788_00:24:51,632 --> 00:24:53,072</time>
<s>自信也可能是一个毁灭性的</s>
<time>789_00:24:53,432 --> 00:24:54,152</time>
<s>让你范然</s>
<time>790_00:24:54,512 --> 00:24:56,312</time>
<s>就是你漠视其他人都可能</s>
<time>791_00:24:56,672 --> 00:24:58,112</time>
<s>任何存在都有两面性</s>
<time>792_00:24:58,472 --> 00:24:59,552</time>
<s>包括刚刚您讲的那个</s>
<time>793_00:24:59,912 --> 00:25:00,620</time>
<s>我脑子突然跳出一个话题</s>
<time>794_00:25:00,980 --> 00:25:02,060</time>
<s>对不起打断一下</s>
<time>795_00:25:02,420 --> 00:25:03,500</time>
<s>是我的认为是</s>
<time>796_00:25:03,860 --> 00:25:05,660</time>
<s>我又被另外一种观念洗脑</s>
<time>797_00:25:06,020 --> 00:25:07,460</time>
<s>是我相信了本自具足</s>
<time>798_00:25:08,900 --> 00:25:10,681</time>
<s>我相信回到原点是本自具足</s>
<time>799_00:25:11,401 --> 00:25:13,201</time>
<s>你可能是学的是那一套的</s>
<time>800_00:25:13,561 --> 00:25:13,921</time>
<s>就是内观型的</s>
<time>801_00:25:14,281 --> 00:25:15,361</time>
<s>这就是</s>
<time>802_00:25:15,721 --> 00:25:16,801</time>
<s>也是王阳明的心学</s>
<time>803_00:25:17,161 --> 00:25:17,521</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>804_00:25:17,881 --> 00:25:18,601</time>
<s>知行合一</s>
<time>805_00:25:18,961 --> 00:25:19,681</time>
<s>王阳明的心学就是吾性自足</s>
<time>806_00:25:20,041 --> 00:25:21,837</time>
<s>就是一切都在我的这个心里</s>
<time>807_00:25:22,197 --> 00:25:24,357</time>
<s>但这样你就得把这个心撑得</s>
<time>808_00:25:24,717 --> 00:25:25,437</time>
<s>撑得足够大</s>
<time>809_00:25:25,797 --> 00:25:27,597</time>
<s>装下自己也装下别人</s>
<time>810_00:25:27,957 --> 00:25:29,397</time>
<s>我现在觉得你看</s>
<time>811_00:25:29,757 --> 00:25:31,545</time>
<s>我觉得我就有焦虑</s>
<time>812_00:25:31,905 --> 00:25:33,345</time>
<s>就是你觉不觉得</s>
<time>813_00:25:33,705 --> 00:25:35,505</time>
<s>我们很多的不快乐是什么呢</s>
<time>814_00:25:35,865 --> 00:25:37,305</time>
<s>是要如意</s>
<time>815_00:25:37,665 --> 00:25:38,385</time>
<s>就是这个事情</s>
<time>816_00:25:38,745 --> 00:25:39,825</time>
<s>特别是很敏感的人</s>
<time>817_00:25:40,185 --> 00:25:41,605</time>
<s>我估计像你是搞音乐的</s>
<time>818_00:25:41,965 --> 00:25:43,405</time>
<s>就是这个事情必须是按照</s>
<time>819_00:25:43,765 --> 00:25:45,925</time>
<s>我想象的那个发生</s>
<time>820_00:25:46,285 --> 00:25:47,365</time>
<s>差一分都不行</s>
<time>821_00:25:47,725 --> 00:25:49,165</time>
<s>所以你在生活里</s>
<time>822_00:25:49,525 --> 00:25:50,601</time>
<s>处处都是不满意</s>
<time>823_00:25:50,961 --> 00:25:53,841</time>
<s>因为多少总会差一点</s>
<time>824_00:25:54,201 --> 00:25:56,001</time>
<s>然后这种不满意呢</s>
<time>825_00:25:56,361 --> 00:25:57,441</time>
<s>再变态一步</s>
<time>826_00:25:57,801 --> 00:25:59,601</time>
<s>我觉得就会导致</s>
<time>827_00:25:59,961 --> 00:26:00,669</time>
<s>我的另一个焦虑</s>
<time>828_00:26:01,029 --> 00:26:01,749</time>
<s>就是什么呢</s>
<time>829_00:26:02,109 --> 00:26:02,829</time>
<s>他们说这个我老讲</s>
<time>830_00:26:03,189 --> 00:26:04,629</time>
<s>我也不知道什么叫强迫症</s>
<time>831_00:26:04,989 --> 00:26:06,789</time>
<s>就是说强迫症有一个特征</s>
<time>832_00:26:07,149 --> 00:26:10,389</time>
<s>就叫无限放大小概率事件</s>
<time>833_00:26:10,729 --> 00:26:11,449</time>
<s>无限放大小概率事件</s>
<time>834_00:26:11,809 --> 00:26:13,969</time>
<s>就是说杞人忧天</s>
<time>835_00:26:14,329 --> 00:26:15,409</time>
<s>比如说今天出门</s>
<time>836_00:26:15,769 --> 00:26:17,209</time>
<s>会不会掉一个砖头把我砸死</s>
<time>837_00:26:17,569 --> 00:26:19,009</time>
<s>这是个千万分之一的</s>
<time>838_00:26:19,369 --> 00:26:21,165</time>
<s>但是呢你要有这种焦虑的人</s>
<time>839_00:26:21,525 --> 00:26:22,965</time>
<s>你就会觉得要出事</s>
<time>840_00:26:23,325 --> 00:26:25,845</time>
<s>老会觉得好像担心的那个东西</s>
<time>841_00:26:26,205 --> 00:26:27,645</time>
<s>会被你放大</s>
<time>842_00:26:28,005 --> 00:26:29,805</time>
<s>你有这感觉吗</s>
<time>843_00:26:30,165 --> 00:26:31,233</time>
<s>阶段性的会有</s>
<time>844_00:26:31,593 --> 00:26:33,033</time>
<s>我觉得我偶尔会有</s>
<time>845_00:26:33,393 --> 00:26:34,473</time>
<s>那么一点点</s>
<time>846_00:26:34,833 --> 00:26:35,553</time>
<s>有一点点这样</s>
<time>847_00:26:35,913 --> 00:26:37,713</time>
<s>就觉得自己要得重病</s>
<time>848_00:26:39,513 --> 00:26:40,593</time>
<s>就是莫名其妙的</s>
<time>849_00:26:40,933 --> 00:26:41,653</time>
<s>你去医院检查</s>
<time>850_00:26:42,013 --> 00:26:43,093</time>
<s>没有没有任何问题</s>
<time>851_00:26:43,453 --> 00:26:44,893</time>
<s>可是就是焦虑</s>
<time>852_00:26:45,973 --> 00:26:47,773</time>
<s>这有一种叫疑病症</s>
<time>853_00:26:48,133 --> 00:26:49,213</time>
<s>对其实我觉得</s>
<time>854_00:26:49,573 --> 00:26:50,653</time>
<s>就是想出病来是吗</s>
<time>855_00:26:51,008 --> 00:26:53,528</time>
<s>有的时候是如果你不开心了</s>
<time>856_00:26:53,888 --> 00:26:56,048</time>
<s>无论如何你都是不开心的</s>
<time>857_00:26:56,408 --> 00:26:56,768</time>
<s>你去找大夫</s>
<time>858_00:26:57,128 --> 00:26:58,568</time>
<s>大夫说你没事</s>
<time>859_00:26:58,928 --> 00:26:59,648</time>
<s>我也不开心</s>
<time>860_00:27:00,008 --> 00:27:01,436</time>
<s>但是那个事情你是知道的对不对</s>
<time>861_00:27:01,796 --> 00:27:03,236</time>
<s>就是原因你是知道</s>
<time>862_00:27:03,596 --> 00:27:03,956</time>
<s>因为你的</s>
