<time>1727_00:49:18,744 --> 00:49:20,179</time>
<s>他的生活真的是</s>
<time>1728_00:49:20,539 --> 00:49:21,979</time>
<s>等于是非常边缘的</s>
<time>1729_00:49:22,339 --> 00:49:24,139</time>
<s>但是又特别上海味道</s>
<time>1730_00:49:24,499 --> 00:49:25,579</time>
<s>因为他一说</s>
<time>1731_00:49:25,939 --> 00:49:27,379</time>
<s>像有一些上海有一些地方</s>
<time>1732_00:49:27,739 --> 00:49:28,099</time>
<s>当然现在都拆掉了</s>
<time>1733_00:49:28,459 --> 00:49:29,899</time>
<s>比如说像提篮桥</s>
<time>1734_00:49:30,246 --> 00:49:32,046</time>
<s>曹家渡十六铺</s>
<time>1735_00:49:32,406 --> 00:49:34,926</time>
<s>那种地方鱼龙混杂</s>
<time>1736_00:49:35,286 --> 00:49:39,606</time>
<s>它是自然等于堆聚拢起来的这种</s>
<time>1737_00:49:39,966 --> 00:49:41,746</time>
<s>城市的副中心</s>
<time>1738_00:49:42,106 --> 00:49:42,826</time>
<s>这种副中心呢</s>
<time>1739_00:49:43,186 --> 00:49:45,346</time>
<s>它各种经历的人都有</s>
<time>1740_00:49:45,706 --> 00:49:47,506</time>
<s>是四九年之前</s>
<time>1741_00:49:47,866 --> 00:49:49,666</time>
<s>各种背景的人</s>
<time>1742_00:49:50,026 --> 00:49:51,101</time>
<s>它还是保持这种样子的</s>
<time>1743_00:49:51,461 --> 00:49:52,181</time>
<s>有的老头他</s>
<time>1744_00:49:52,541 --> 00:49:52,901</time>
<s>还在喝咖啡</s>
<time>1745_00:49:53,261 --> 00:49:54,341</time>
<s>还要干什么</s>
<time>1746_00:49:54,701 --> 00:49:57,221</time>
<s>放一块饼干也要摆着看着这种</s>
<time>1747_00:49:57,581 --> 00:49:59,381</time>
<s>他都是过去那种</s>
<time>1748_00:49:59,741 --> 00:50:01,168</time>
<s>那种积累的东西</s>
<time>1749_00:50:01,528 --> 00:50:04,048</time>
<s>它这种生态里面就各种人</s>
<time>1750_00:50:04,408 --> 00:50:06,568</time>
<s>靠各种手段生活</s>
<time>1751_00:50:06,928 --> 00:50:07,648</time>
<s>因为我在上海</s>
<time>1752_00:50:08,008 --> 00:50:09,808</time>
<s>没少买这个各种文物</s>
<time>1753_00:50:10,168 --> 00:50:10,867</time>
<s>在上海买文物的时候</s>
<time>1754_00:50:11,227 --> 00:50:12,307</time>
<s>就碰到各色人等</s>
<time>1755_00:50:12,667 --> 00:50:14,467</time>
<s>他跟北京人是不一样的</s>
<time>1756_00:50:14,827 --> 00:50:15,907</time>
<s>上海人很会褪</s>
<time>1757_00:50:16,267 --> 00:50:17,347</time>
<s>就是所谓“褪套儿”</s>
<time>1758_00:50:17,707 --> 00:50:19,147</time>
<s>就是不行我就往回退</s>
<time>1759_00:50:19,507 --> 00:50:20,582</time>
<s>我要把这个事成了</s>
<time>1760_00:50:20,942 --> 00:50:22,022</time>
<s>比如我有一年</s>
<time>1761_00:50:22,382 --> 00:50:23,822</time>
<s>我去在那儿看见一黄花梨床</s>
<time>1762_00:50:24,182 --> 00:50:25,622</time>
<s>特喜欢喜欢得不行</s>
<time>1763_00:50:25,982 --> 00:50:27,422</time>
<s>然后我心里觉得这个床</s>
<time>1764_00:50:27,782 --> 00:50:29,222</time>
<s>那个年月我认为值八十万</s>
<time>1765_00:50:29,582 --> 00:50:30,649</time>
<s>就已经很多了</s>
<time>1766_00:50:31,009 --> 00:50:31,369</time>
<s>但是那我想买</s>
<time>1767_00:50:31,729 --> 00:50:32,809</time>
<s>我就追这个老板</s>
<time>1768_00:50:33,169 --> 00:50:34,609</time>
<s>这老板他不是做这生意的</s>
<time>1769_00:50:34,969 --> 00:50:37,489</time>
<s>他是做这个洗浴生意的</s>
<time>1770_00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:39,289</time>
<s>但是他赚了钱以后</s>
<time>1771_00:50:39,649 --> 00:50:41,068</time>
<s>就老买这些东西</s>
<time>1772_00:50:41,428 --> 00:50:43,228</time>
<s>他又有各种兄弟帮他弄</s>
<time>1773_00:50:43,588 --> 00:50:45,028</time>
<s>然后我认为这东西值八十万</s>
<time>1774_00:50:45,388 --> 00:50:47,548</time>
<s>然后但是你要特别诚心想买呢</s>
<time>1775_00:50:47,908 --> 00:50:48,628</time>
<s>你得加钱吧</s>
<time>1776_00:50:48,988 --> 00:50:49,708</time>
<s>所以我就努着一百万</s>
<time>1777_00:50:50,068 --> 00:50:50,428</time>
<s>我就要买</s>
<time>1778_00:50:50,782 --> 00:50:51,502</time>
<s>他说我不卖这个</s>
<time>1779_00:50:51,862 --> 00:50:52,942</time>
<s>我终身都不会卖</s>
<time>1780_00:50:53,302 --> 00:50:56,542</time>
<s>然后我又为了使他这个能卖</s>
<time>1781_00:50:57,262 --> 00:50:58,702</time>
<s>铆足了劲给了一个不值的钱</s>
<time>1782_00:50:59,062 --> 00:51:00,502</time>
<s>就是我认为都不值它贵</s>
<time>1783_00:51:00,849 --> 00:51:02,289</time>
<s>我就说我能出120（万）</s>
<time>1784_00:51:02,649 --> 00:51:03,369</time>
<s>买你这床</s>
<time>1785_00:51:03,729 --> 00:51:04,089</time>
<s>他想都不想</s>
<time>1786_00:51:04,449 --> 00:51:04,809</time>
<s>就把我给踢了</s>
<time>1787_00:51:05,169 --> 00:51:05,889</time>
<s>说你门都没有</s>
<time>1788_00:51:06,249 --> 00:51:06,609</time>
<s>不可能有这事</s>
<time>1789_00:51:06,969 --> 00:51:07,329</time>
<s>说我这个什么什么</s>
<time>1790_00:51:07,689 --> 00:51:09,129</time>
<s>你上我这儿洗澡什么什么</s>
<time>1791_00:51:09,849 --> 00:51:11,628</time>
<s>就那个床我就老惦记着</s>
<time>1792_00:51:13,788 --> 00:51:14,868</time>
<s>隔了两年</s>
<time>1793_00:51:15,228 --> 00:51:16,308</time>
<s>他旁边一人给我打一电话</s>
<time>1794_00:51:16,668 --> 00:51:17,028</time>
<s>说他那床要卖</s>
<time>1795_00:51:18,108 --> 00:51:18,828</time>
<s>马上就告诉我了</s>
<time>1796_00:51:19,188 --> 00:51:19,548</time>
<s>给我打电话</s>
<time>1797_00:51:20,268 --> 00:51:22,783</time>
<s>他说他这个老婆生孩子</s>
<time>1798_00:51:23,143 --> 00:51:24,223</time>
<s>他现在没钱</s>
<time>1799_00:51:24,583 --> 00:51:26,023</time>
<s>老婆又生孩子了</s>
<time>1800_00:51:26,383 --> 00:51:27,823</time>
<s>然后我就很主动</s>
<time>1801_00:51:28,183 --> 00:51:28,543</time>
<s>我电话就过去了</s>
<time>1802_00:51:28,903 --> 00:51:30,343</time>
<s>我说你那个</s>
<time>1803_00:51:30,703 --> 00:51:32,129</time>
<s>听说你那个床要卖吗</s>
<time>1804_00:51:32,489 --> 00:51:32,849</time>
<s>卖你</s>
<time>1805_00:51:33,929 --> 00:51:35,729</time>
<s>多少钱他问我多少钱</s>
<time>1806_00:51:36,089 --> 00:51:37,529</time>
<s>我不给过120（万）吗</s>
<time>1807_00:51:37,889 --> 00:51:38,969</time>
<s>这时候这个古董这个</s>
<time>1808_00:51:39,329 --> 00:51:41,108</time>
<s>古董本身没有价钱</s>
<time>1809_00:51:41,468 --> 00:51:42,548</time>
<s>那个价钱全是人为的</s>
<time>1810_00:51:42,908 --> 00:51:43,268</time>
<s>它不是葡萄</s>
<time>1811_00:51:43,628 --> 00:51:43,988</time>
<s>你那个市场上</s>
<time>1812_00:51:44,348 --> 00:51:46,148</time>
<s>它有个公平价钱</s>
<time>1813_00:51:48,668 --> 00:51:49,748</time>
<s>我说我出过120（万）对不对</s>
<time>1814_00:51:50,108 --> 00:51:50,468</time>
<s>他说对</s>
<time>1815_00:51:50,828 --> 00:51:53,342</time>
<s>我说我给你六十万块钱的话吧</s>
<time>1816_00:51:53,702 --> 00:51:55,142</time>
<s>你是不记教训的</s>
<time>1817_00:51:55,502 --> 00:51:57,662</time>
<s>就我那个钱追着你你不卖我</s>
<time>1818_00:51:58,022 --> 00:51:58,382</time>
<s>我那么诚心</s>
<time>1819_00:51:58,742 --> 00:51:59,822</time>
<s>还请你吃饭干什么</s>
<time>1820_00:52:00,182 --> 00:52:02,329</time>
<s>你光请我洗澡你不卖我</s>
<time>1821_00:52:02,689 --> 00:52:04,489</time>
<s>然后我给你六十万</s>
<time>1822_00:52:04,849 --> 00:52:06,289</time>
<s>你不记教训</s>
<time>1823_00:52:06,649 --> 00:52:07,729</time>
<s>六十万减一万五十九万</s>
<time>1824_00:52:09,169 --> 00:52:09,889</time>
<s>你答应</s>
<time>1825_00:52:10,249 --> 00:52:12,387</time>
<s>一分钟以后钱就在你账上</s>
<time>1826_00:52:12,747 --> 00:52:13,827</time>
<s>二话都一个磕巴都不打</s>
<time>1827_00:52:14,187 --> 00:52:16,347</time>
<s>他不跟我讨价还价好</s>
<time>1828_00:52:16,707 --> 00:52:17,427</time>
<s>他有这一套</s>
<time>1829_00:52:17,787 --> 00:52:19,587</time>
<s>就是那个就是很不客</s>
<time>1830_00:52:19,947 --> 00:52:21,381</time>
<s>当时完全出乎我的想象</s>
<time>1831_00:52:21,741 --> 00:52:22,101</time>
<s>因为我认为</s>
<time>1832_00:52:22,461 --> 00:52:23,541</time>
<s>他得跟我讨价还价</s>
<time>1833_00:52:23,901 --> 00:52:25,701</time>
<s>磨蹭我</s>
<time>1834_00:52:26,061 --> 00:52:26,421</time>
<s>缺钱了</s>
<time>1835_00:52:26,781 --> 00:52:27,141</time>
<s>我当时心里还是认为</s>
<time>1836_00:52:27,501 --> 00:52:27,861</time>
<s>八十万这个钱</s>
<time>1837_00:52:28,221 --> 00:52:29,301</time>
<s>我还是能付的</s>
<time>1838_00:52:29,661 --> 00:52:31,807</time>
<s>但是他一OK</s>
<time>1839_00:52:32,167 --> 00:52:32,887</time>
<s>弄得我还比较愣</s>
<time>1840_00:52:33,247 --> 00:52:33,967</time>
<s>然后我就很快</s>
<time>1841_00:52:34,327 --> 00:52:34,687</time>
<s>我就把钱付了</s>
<time>1842_00:52:35,047 --> 00:52:36,127</time>
<s>付了以后我又不踏实</s>
<time>1843_00:52:36,847 --> 00:52:37,567</time>
<s>他太痛快了</s>
<time>1844_00:52:37,927 --> 00:52:38,647</time>
<s>我又不能不痛快</s>
<time>1845_00:52:39,007 --> 00:52:39,367</time>
<s>我把钱付完了以后</s>
<time>1846_00:52:39,727 --> 00:52:40,447</time>
<s>第二天我就差人</s>
<time>1847_00:52:40,807 --> 00:52:42,226</time>
<s>因为我那时候在北京</s>
<time>1848_00:52:42,586 --> 00:52:42,946</time>
<s>我说你现在</s>
<time>1849_00:52:43,306 --> 00:52:44,026</time>
<s>今天什么事都不能干</s>
<time>1850_00:52:44,386 --> 00:52:44,746</time>
<s>你得上他那儿</s>
<time>1851_00:52:45,106 --> 00:52:46,186</time>
<s>把我这床给我拉走</s>
<time>1852_00:52:46,546 --> 00:52:47,626</time>
<s>因为我怕他给我卖一便宜</s>
<time>1853_00:52:47,986 --> 00:52:49,066</time>
<s>明儿再又卖一便宜</s>
<time>1854_00:52:49,426 --> 00:52:49,786</time>
<s>他卖两回便宜</s>
<time>1855_00:52:50,146 --> 00:52:51,580</time>
<s>那床没了对不对</s>
<time>1856_00:52:51,940 --> 00:52:54,460</time>
<s>因为对钱特别着急的人</s>
<time>1857_00:52:54,820 --> 00:52:56,260</time>
<s>后面的事就很难说</s>
<time>1858_00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:58,420</time>
<s>所以你看我自己</s>
<time>1859_00:52:58,780 --> 00:52:59,860</time>
<s>有个台湾的朋友</s>
<time>1860_00:53:00,220 --> 00:53:02,006</time>
<s>他在这个上海住了很久</s>
<time>1861_00:53:02,366 --> 00:53:04,166</time>
<s>他说你看我这个司机</s>
<time>1862_00:53:04,526 --> 00:53:05,246</time>
<s>他讲得很有意思</s>
<time>1863_00:53:05,606 --> 00:53:05,966</time>
<s>他说</s>
<time>1864_00:53:07,046 --> 00:53:09,206</time>
<s>他说你给他一点小费</s>
<time>1865_00:53:09,566 --> 00:53:10,286</time>
<s>上海人很知道</s>
<time>1866_00:53:10,646 --> 00:53:11,704</time>
<s>这里面的好处</s>
<time>1867_00:53:12,064 --> 00:53:14,944</time>
<s>他很看重这一点好处</s>
<time>1868_00:53:15,304 --> 00:53:16,384</time>
<s>我觉得上海人其实</s>
<time>1869_00:53:16,744 --> 00:53:18,184</time>
<s>就确实在这个面子</s>
<time>1870_00:53:18,544 --> 00:53:19,264</time>
<s>就是你出门的时候</s>
<time>1871_00:53:19,624 --> 00:53:21,064</time>
<s>就是你离开你家的时候</s>
<time>1872_00:53:21,424 --> 00:53:22,857</time>
<s>除了穿睡衣这个事以外</s>
<time>1873_00:53:23,217 --> 00:53:24,297</time>
<s>我觉得大家就是</s>
<time>1874_00:53:24,657 --> 00:53:25,017</time>
<s>对面子这个事</s>
<time>1875_00:53:25,377 --> 00:53:27,177</time>
<s>是有一种特别高度的共识</s>
<time>1876_00:53:27,537 --> 00:53:28,617</time>
<s>而且他这个就是</s>
<time>1877_00:53:28,977 --> 00:53:29,337</time>
<s>我记得小的时候</s>
<time>1878_00:53:29,697 --> 00:53:30,057</time>
<s>你包括那个时候</s>
<time>1879_00:53:30,417 --> 00:53:31,497</time>
<s>大家都没什么钱的时候</s>
<time>1880_00:53:31,843 --> 00:53:33,643</time>
<s>就我们家</s>
<time>1881_00:53:34,003 --> 00:53:34,723</time>
<s>那个有一个邻居阿姨</s>
<time>1882_00:53:35,083 --> 00:53:36,523</time>
<s>她就那个自己会做衣服</s>
<time>1883_00:53:36,883 --> 00:53:38,683</time>
<s>就从各种杂志</s>
<time>1884_00:53:39,043 --> 00:53:40,123</time>
<s>会找那种那种外国衣服</s>
<time>1885_00:53:40,483 --> 00:53:41,203</time>
<s>其实用很便宜的料</s>
<time>1886_00:53:42,261 --> 00:53:42,981</time>
<s>就是那个自己</s>
<time>1887_00:53:43,341 --> 00:53:44,781</time>
<s>车各种各样的那个式样</s>
<time>1888_00:53:45,141 --> 00:53:46,941</time>
<s>就打扮光鲜见人这件事情</s>
<time>1889_00:53:47,301 --> 00:53:48,021</time>
<s>是很重要的</s>
<time>1890_00:53:48,381 --> 00:53:49,101</time>
<s>你包括以前</s>
<time>1891_00:53:49,461 --> 00:53:50,541</time>
<s>我看那个柯灵写的文章</s>
<time>1892_00:53:50,901 --> 00:53:52,335</time>
<s>他像他讲上海</s>
<time>1893_00:53:52,695 --> 00:53:53,775</time>
<s>去那个澡堂子</s>
<time>1894_00:53:54,135 --> 00:53:55,215</time>
<s>说里面那个服务生</s>
<time>1895_00:53:55,575 --> 00:53:56,655</time>
<s>接了你那个大衣</s>
<time>1896_00:53:57,015 --> 00:53:57,735</time>
<s>他挂上去的时候</s>
<time>1897_00:53:58,095 --> 00:53:58,455</time>
<s>一定要看一眼是什么牌子</s>
<time>1898_00:54:00,615 --> 00:54:01,695</time>
<s>就这有一个小瞬间</s>
<time>1899_00:54:02,041 --> 00:54:03,121</time>
<s>他能看什么牌子</s>
<time>1900_00:54:03,481 --> 00:54:04,201</time>
<s>就你是什么人</s>
<time>1901_00:54:04,561 --> 00:54:05,281</time>
<s>然后怎么伺候你</s>
<time>1902_00:54:05,641 --> 00:54:06,001</time>
<s>他就知道了</s>
<time>1903_00:54:06,361 --> 00:54:07,441</time>
<s>您说起这个年代</s>
<time>1904_00:54:07,801 --> 00:54:09,241</time>
<s>我突然想起无关的来</s>
<time>1905_00:54:09,601 --> 00:54:10,321</time>
<s>您知道我才知道</s>
<time>1906_00:54:10,681 --> 00:54:13,538</time>
<s>就是说金老师的父亲是地下党</s>
<time>1907_00:54:14,618 --> 00:54:16,058</time>
<s>当年地下工作者</s>
<time>1908_00:54:16,778 --> 00:54:18,938</time>
<s>至少在一点上我在您身上</s>
<time>1909_00:54:19,298 --> 00:54:20,738</time>
<s>看到您父亲的遗风</s>
<time>1910_00:54:21,098 --> 00:54:23,252</time>
<s>他现在还是整天搜集材料</s>
<time>1911_00:54:23,612 --> 00:54:25,412</time>
<s>观察各种各样不同的人</s>
<time>1912_00:54:26,852 --> 00:54:27,932</time>
<s>所以谢谢金老师</s>
<time>1913_00:54:28,292 --> 00:54:29,012</time>
<s>金老师今天给我们</s>
<time>1914_00:54:29,372 --> 00:54:30,812</time>
<s>讲了这么多奇特的话</s>
