<time>1_00:00:38,488 --> 00:00:39,928</time>
<s>咱们几个凑在一块儿是吧</s>
<time>2_00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:41,350</time>
<s>这感觉主持不像主持</s>
<time>3_00:00:41,710 --> 00:00:42,430</time>
<s>嘉宾不像嘉宾的</s>
<time>4_00:00:43,870 --> 00:00:46,030</time>
<s>而且这个我发现轶君最近呢</s>
<time>5_00:00:46,390 --> 00:00:47,470</time>
<s>大家观众都反映</s>
<time>6_00:00:47,830 --> 00:00:48,910</time>
<s>你突然漂亮了</s>
<time>7_00:00:49,270 --> 00:00:51,427</time>
<s>是圆桌使你漂亮了</s>
<time>8_00:00:51,787 --> 00:00:52,507</time>
<s>应该可以这样说</s>
<time>9_00:00:52,867 --> 00:00:53,227</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>10_00:00:53,587 --> 00:00:55,027</time>
<s>没有我最近实在是太累惨了</s>
<time>11_00:00:55,387 --> 00:00:55,747</time>
<s>可能瘦了一点</s>
<time>12_00:00:56,107 --> 00:00:56,467</time>
<s>我也不知道</s>
<time>13_00:00:56,827 --> 00:00:58,987</time>
<s>对今天我看见就不是那么</s>
<time>14_00:00:59,347 --> 00:01:00,067</time>
<s>就是还可以了</s>
<time>15_00:01:02,576 --> 00:01:03,656</time>
<s>不是就是你知道</s>
<time>16_00:01:04,016 --> 00:01:05,456</time>
<s>她今天确实比我们</s>
<time>17_00:01:05,816 --> 00:01:07,976</time>
<s>以前几集的脸看着沧桑</s>
<time>18_00:01:08,336 --> 00:01:10,136</time>
<s>因为风尘仆仆</s>
<time>19_00:01:10,478 --> 00:01:13,358</time>
<s>走遍全国各个角落</s>
<time>20_00:01:13,718 --> 00:01:14,798</time>
<s>化妆师说我黑了又</s>
<time>21_00:01:15,158 --> 00:01:16,238</time>
<s>一看就是刚晒完</s>
<time>22_00:01:16,598 --> 00:01:16,958</time>
<s>跟龙虾似的</s>
<time>23_00:01:18,398 --> 00:01:19,478</time>
<s>所以最近君你知道</s>
<time>24_00:01:19,838 --> 00:01:21,275</time>
<s>不是走遍全国的问题</s>
<time>25_00:01:21,635 --> 00:01:21,995</time>
<s>走遍全世界</s>
<time>26_00:01:22,355 --> 00:01:22,715</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>27_00:01:23,075 --> 00:01:24,875</time>
<s>到这个欧洲多国</s>
<time>28_00:01:25,235 --> 00:01:26,675</time>
<s>去教授他们怎么教育孩子</s>
<time>29_00:01:27,035 --> 00:01:27,755</time>
<s>不是我教授</s>
<time>30_00:01:28,115 --> 00:01:28,475</time>
<s>那是什么</s>
<time>31_00:01:28,835 --> 00:01:29,195</time>
<s>我学习</s>
<time>32_00:01:29,555 --> 00:01:29,915</time>
<s>学习</s>
<time>33_00:01:30,275 --> 00:01:32,064</time>
<s>有欧洲也有各个其他地方</s>
<time>34_00:01:32,424 --> 00:01:32,784</time>
<s>也有日本</s>
<time>35_00:01:33,144 --> 00:01:34,944</time>
<s>有那个以色列</s>
<time>36_00:01:35,304 --> 00:01:36,024</time>
<s>就有不同的地方</s>
<time>37_00:01:37,104 --> 00:01:38,544</time>
<s>有什么好玩的跟我们讲讲</s>
<time>38_00:01:38,904 --> 00:01:39,984</time>
<s>我每次回来</s>
<time>39_00:01:40,344 --> 00:01:40,685</time>
<s>我女儿都说</s>
<time>40_00:01:41,045 --> 00:01:42,485</time>
<s>刚回来就发现妈妈变了</s>
<time>41_00:01:42,845 --> 00:01:43,565</time>
<s>说对她特别温和</s>
<time>42_00:01:43,925 --> 00:01:45,365</time>
<s>因为其实教育你不管</s>
<time>43_00:01:45,725 --> 00:01:46,085</time>
<s>是什么理论吧</s>
<time>44_00:01:46,445 --> 00:01:48,245</time>
<s>总要你对孩子要好一点</s>
<time>45_00:01:48,605 --> 00:01:49,325</time>
<s>要更有耐心</s>
<time>46_00:01:49,685 --> 00:01:51,122</time>
<s>但是妈妈总是说</s>
<time>47_00:01:51,482 --> 00:01:51,842</time>
<s>什么都行</s>
<time>48_00:01:52,202 --> 00:01:52,922</time>
<s>你爱干嘛干嘛</s>
<time>49_00:01:53,282 --> 00:01:53,642</time>
<s>过两个星期</s>
<time>50_00:01:54,002 --> 00:01:54,362</time>
<s>又露出了挣拧的面目</s>
<time>51_00:01:54,722 --> 00:01:55,442</time>
<s>又露出了的面目</s>
<time>52_00:01:55,802 --> 00:01:57,242</time>
<s>没有我学到有一个</s>
<time>53_00:01:57,602 --> 00:01:59,042</time>
<s>其实我之前看过有一个</s>
<time>54_00:01:59,402 --> 00:02:00,122</time>
<s>那个Montessori（蒙特梭利）</s>
<time>55_00:02:00,482 --> 00:02:01,911</time>
<s>就是那个全世界很有名的一个</s>
<time>56_00:02:02,271 --> 00:02:02,631</time>
<s>蒙特梭利教学法</s>
<time>57_00:02:02,991 --> 00:02:04,071</time>
<s>对这个蒙特梭利</s>
<time>58_00:02:04,431 --> 00:02:06,231</time>
<s>她说过一句特别有名的话</s>
<time>59_00:02:06,591 --> 00:02:09,111</time>
<s>叫作她说“孩子是成人的祖先”</s>
<time>60_00:02:10,551 --> 00:02:11,612</time>
<s>我后来是最近是</s>
<time>61_00:02:11,972 --> 00:02:13,412</time>
<s>在日本一个幼儿园门口看</s>
<time>62_00:02:13,772 --> 00:02:14,132</time>
<s>他们就贴在那儿</s>
<time>63_00:02:14,492 --> 00:02:16,292</time>
<s>我还又警醒了一下</s>
<time>64_00:02:16,652 --> 00:02:17,012</time>
<s>确实这样</s>
<time>65_00:02:17,372 --> 00:02:17,732</time>
<s>就是你看小孩子</s>
<time>66_00:02:18,092 --> 00:02:18,812</time>
<s>是你的孩子对不对</s>
<time>67_00:02:19,172 --> 00:02:20,252</time>
<s>他为什么是你祖先呢</s>
<time>68_00:02:20,612 --> 00:02:21,688</time>
<s>就是两个意思</s>
<time>69_00:02:22,048 --> 00:02:24,208</time>
<s>一个是你曾经是那个样子的</s>
<time>70_00:02:24,568 --> 00:02:26,008</time>
<s>就是那是你的过去</s>
<time>71_00:02:26,368 --> 00:02:26,728</time>
<s>还有一个</s>
<time>72_00:02:27,088 --> 00:02:27,448</time>
<s>他刚生下来</s>
<time>73_00:02:27,808 --> 00:02:29,248</time>
<s>其实他携带了好多</s>
<time>74_00:02:29,608 --> 00:02:31,757</time>
<s>我们过去的很多记忆</s>
<time>75_00:02:32,117 --> 00:02:32,837</time>
<s>就是不光是你的</s>
<time>76_00:02:33,197 --> 00:02:34,277</time>
<s>就是人类的好多</s>
<time>77_00:02:34,637 --> 00:02:37,157</time>
<s>祖先的这种天然的东西在里面</s>
<time>78_00:02:37,517 --> 00:02:38,237</time>
<s>所以我们看待孩子</s>
<time>79_00:02:38,597 --> 00:02:39,677</time>
<s>不要以为他是你的孩子</s>
<time>80_00:02:40,037 --> 00:02:41,458</time>
<s>你有对他随意的支配权</s>
<time>81_00:02:41,818 --> 00:02:42,538</time>
<s>而是要记得</s>
<time>82_00:02:42,898 --> 00:02:44,338</time>
<s>他其实是你的祖先</s>
<time>83_00:02:44,698 --> 00:02:45,418</time>
<s>那你看到他要叫爹</s>
<time>84_00:02:46,498 --> 00:02:47,218</time>
<s>我跟你说</s>
<time>85_00:02:47,578 --> 00:02:48,298</time>
<s>现在很多孩子</s>
<time>86_00:02:48,658 --> 00:02:50,098</time>
<s>就是父母的祖宗</s>
<time>87_00:02:50,458 --> 00:02:51,174</time>
<s>那真没错</s>
<time>88_00:02:51,534 --> 00:02:51,894</time>
<s>没错小祖宗</s>
<time>89_00:02:53,694 --> 00:02:54,774</time>
<s>你觉得他们教育孩子</s>
<time>90_00:02:55,134 --> 00:02:56,214</time>
<s>跟我们有什么不一样</s>
<time>91_00:02:56,574 --> 00:02:57,294</time>
<s>其实也</s>
<time>92_00:02:57,654 --> 00:02:58,374</time>
<s>就是我觉得是</s>
<time>93_00:02:58,734 --> 00:03:00,894</time>
<s>好的教育大多相似</s>
<time>94_00:03:01,243 --> 00:03:03,043</time>
<s>坏的教育各有各的不同吧</s>
<time>95_00:03:03,403 --> 00:03:05,563</time>
<s>其实我倒觉得有一点就是说</s>
<time>96_00:03:05,923 --> 00:03:07,003</time>
<s>他们会把孩子</s>
<time>97_00:03:07,363 --> 00:03:08,803</time>
<s>给孩子更多的自由</s>
<time>98_00:03:09,163 --> 00:03:09,883</time>
<s>比如说有一个</s>
<time>99_00:03:11,664 --> 00:03:12,384</time>
<s>就有一个爸爸</s>
<time>100_00:03:12,744 --> 00:03:13,104</time>
<s>我在芬兰</s>
<time>101_00:03:13,464 --> 00:03:13,824</time>
<s>我采访到一个爸爸</s>
<time>102_00:03:14,184 --> 00:03:16,344</time>
<s>他就是全国排名</s>
<time>103_00:03:16,704 --> 00:03:17,424</time>
<s>他说收入</s>
<time>104_00:03:17,784 --> 00:03:18,504</time>
<s>他们有排行榜</s>
<time>105_00:03:18,864 --> 00:03:20,304</time>
<s>因为很透明</s>
<time>106_00:03:20,664 --> 00:03:22,820</time>
<s>大概是全国排二三百名</s>
<time>107_00:03:23,180 --> 00:03:24,260</time>
<s>那很富有了吧</s>
<time>108_00:03:24,620 --> 00:03:25,340</time>
<s>他的孩子要去打工</s>
<time>109_00:03:25,700 --> 00:03:27,140</time>
<s>他要买双球鞋都要去打工</s>
<time>110_00:03:27,500 --> 00:03:28,580</time>
<s>他说我叫他打工</s>
<time>111_00:03:28,940 --> 00:03:31,100</time>
<s>不是让他要赚这个钱</s>
<time>112_00:03:31,448 --> 00:03:31,808</time>
<s>而是说</s>
<time>113_00:03:32,168 --> 00:03:32,888</time>
<s>你看他去麦当劳</s>
<time>114_00:03:33,248 --> 00:03:35,048</time>
<s>去这个星巴克</s>
<time>115_00:03:35,408 --> 00:03:36,488</time>
<s>去打工回来以后</s>
<time>116_00:03:36,848 --> 00:03:37,568</time>
<s>我要听他说什么</s>
<time>117_00:03:37,928 --> 00:03:39,008</time>
<s>比如说他会有很多抱怨</s>
<time>118_00:03:39,368 --> 00:03:40,088</time>
<s>这个老板真傻</s>
<time>119_00:03:40,448 --> 00:03:41,509</time>
<s>他雇的什么人</s>
<time>120_00:03:41,869 --> 00:03:43,669</time>
<s>他说OK那你如果是那个老板</s>
<time>121_00:03:45,829 --> 00:03:47,269</time>
<s>他就说关键是他要开始思考</s>
<time>122_00:03:48,709 --> 00:03:49,069</time>
<s>他会思考说</s>
<time>123_00:03:49,429 --> 00:03:50,509</time>
<s>那我该怎么做</s>
<time>124_00:03:50,869 --> 00:03:51,585</time>
<s>这件事情对他来说</s>
<time>125_00:03:51,945 --> 00:03:52,665</time>
<s>是很重要的</s>
<time>126_00:03:54,465 --> 00:03:55,185</time>
<s>不过最近我是</s>
<time>127_00:03:55,545 --> 00:03:56,625</time>
<s>也是跟轶君</s>
<time>128_00:03:56,985 --> 00:03:58,065</time>
<s>没法跟着你去欧洲了</s>
<time>129_00:03:58,425 --> 00:04:00,585</time>
<s>我就看一些那个国外的</s>
<time>130_00:04:00,945 --> 00:04:02,373</time>
<s>著名的教子的这个经验</s>
<time>131_00:04:02,733 --> 00:04:04,893</time>
<s>当然咱们一看就看洛克菲勒了</s>
<time>132_00:04:05,253 --> 00:04:05,973</time>
<s>好家伙</s>
<time>133_00:04:06,333 --> 00:04:06,693</time>
<s>就是摩根</s>
<time>134_00:04:07,773 --> 00:04:09,573</time>
<s>你是学习他们的教孩子方法</s>
<time>135_00:04:09,933 --> 00:04:11,013</time>
<s>因为我一直在苦恼</s>
<time>136_00:04:11,373 --> 00:04:13,514</time>
<s>为什么我不会理财对吧</s>
<time>137_00:04:13,874 --> 00:04:15,674</time>
<s>而且最近很多这个年轻人</s>
<time>138_00:04:16,034 --> 00:04:17,834</time>
<s>也是说跟父母之间</s>
<time>139_00:04:18,194 --> 00:04:19,634</time>
<s>其实就是有个</s>
<time>140_00:04:19,994 --> 00:04:21,074</time>
<s>还要靠父母供养</s>
<time>141_00:04:21,434 --> 00:04:22,509</time>
<s>就是工作了什么</s>
<time>142_00:04:22,869 --> 00:04:23,589</time>
<s>还要靠父母供养</s>
<time>143_00:04:23,949 --> 00:04:24,309</time>
<s>啃老是吗</s>
<time>144_00:04:24,669 --> 00:04:26,469</time>
<s>对啃老现在也是一种现象</s>
<time>145_00:04:26,829 --> 00:04:29,349</time>
<s>所以我就发现这个</s>
<time>146_00:04:29,709 --> 00:04:30,789</time>
<s>这个洛克菲勒</s>
<time>147_00:04:31,149 --> 00:04:32,577</time>
<s>咱先说香港的李嘉诚</s>
<time>148_00:04:32,937 --> 00:04:34,377</time>
<s>著名的故事是吧</s>
<time>149_00:04:34,737 --> 00:04:35,817</time>
<s>八九岁的时候</s>
<time>150_00:04:36,177 --> 00:04:37,977</time>
<s>李泽钜李泽楷就搬着小板凳</s>
<time>151_00:04:38,337 --> 00:04:39,417</time>
<s>参加他爸的董事会</s>
<time>152_00:04:39,777 --> 00:04:40,497</time>
<s>好家伙这</s>
<time>153_00:04:40,857 --> 00:04:41,217</time>
<s>然后说是什么</s>
<time>154_00:04:41,577 --> 00:04:42,638</time>
<s>李泽楷从小当球童</s>
<time>155_00:04:42,998 --> 00:04:44,078</time>
<s>高尔夫球场上</s>
<time>156_00:04:44,438 --> 00:04:45,518</time>
<s>背着大皮袋跑来跑去</s>
<time>157_00:04:45,878 --> 00:04:46,958</time>
<s>零用钱自己挣</s>
<time>158_00:04:47,318 --> 00:04:48,398</time>
<s>后来我发现</s>
<time>159_00:04:48,758 --> 00:04:50,558</time>
<s>洛克菲勒更狠</s>
<time>160_00:04:50,918 --> 00:04:51,638</time>
<s>就是（老）洛克菲勒</s>
<time>161_00:04:51,993 --> 00:04:52,713</time>
<s>他是几个孩子</s>
<time>162_00:04:53,073 --> 00:04:55,593</time>
<s>老二是当过副总统吧</s>
<time>163_00:04:55,953 --> 00:04:57,393</time>
<s>纳尔逊什么的</s>
<time>164_00:04:57,753 --> 00:04:58,113</time>
<s>洛克菲勒就是</s>
<time>165_00:04:59,913 --> 00:05:01,713</time>
<s>根据年龄不同</s>
<time>166_00:05:02,061 --> 00:05:02,781</time>
<s>给这个零花钱</s>
<time>167_00:05:03,861 --> 00:05:04,581</time>
<s>这个岁数大一点</s>
<time>168_00:05:04,941 --> 00:05:05,661</time>
<s>可以稍多一点</s>
<time>169_00:05:06,021 --> 00:05:07,101</time>
<s>而且记账</s>
<time>170_00:05:07,461 --> 00:05:08,901</time>
<s>每个人每个孩子</s>
<time>171_00:05:09,261 --> 00:05:09,981</time>
<s>你这点零花钱</s>
<time>172_00:05:10,341 --> 00:05:11,421</time>
<s>其实就是几毛钱我看</s>
<time>173_00:05:11,781 --> 00:05:15,361</time>
<s>就是支出如果都合理到位</s>
<time>174_00:05:17,161 --> 00:05:19,321</time>
<s>他拿公司的这个管理他这孩子</s>
<time>175_00:05:19,681 --> 00:05:21,121</time>
<s>以至于把他这个孩子积极性</s>
<time>176_00:05:21,481 --> 00:05:22,557</time>
<s>都能管理出来</s>
<time>177_00:05:22,917 --> 00:05:23,997</time>
<s>我觉得都不可思议</s>
<time>178_00:05:25,437 --> 00:05:27,597</time>
<s>孩子鼓励抢着干家务活</s>
<time>179_00:05:27,957 --> 00:05:30,477</time>
<s>速一百个苍蝇对吧</s>
<time>180_00:05:30,837 --> 00:05:31,197</time>
<s>他们家有那么多苍蝇</s>
<time>181_00:05:31,557 --> 00:05:32,624</time>
<s>就挣一毛钱</s>
<time>182_00:05:32,984 --> 00:05:35,144</time>
<s>抓一只耗子挣五分钱</s>
<time>183_00:05:37,304 --> 00:05:38,384</time>
<s>富豪的日子不是咱们想的</s>
<time>184_00:05:38,744 --> 00:05:39,464</time>
<s>那么美好看来</s>
<time>185_00:05:39,824 --> 00:05:40,184</time>
<s>没错</s>
<time>186_00:05:40,544 --> 00:05:42,324</time>
<s>后来说老二和老三</s>
<time>187_00:05:42,684 --> 00:05:43,764</time>
<s>主动抢活儿干</s>
<time>188_00:05:44,124 --> 00:05:45,564</time>
<s>我一看抢着干什么活儿</s>
<time>189_00:05:45,924 --> 00:05:47,004</time>
<s>什么刹柴拔草</s>
<time>190_00:05:47,364 --> 00:05:48,084</time>
<s>这在哪儿住</s>
<time>191_00:05:48,444 --> 00:05:48,804</time>
<s>我说这（老）洛克菲勒</s>
<time>192_00:05:49,164 --> 00:05:50,244</time>
<s>过的是农民的生活</s>
<time>193_00:05:51,684 --> 00:05:53,840</time>
<s>而且说十一二岁的时候</s>
<time>194_00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:55,640</time>
<s>老二老三就能想到</s>
<time>195_00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:57,800</time>
<s>咱们可以一块养兔子</s>
<time>196_00:05:58,160 --> 00:06:00,320</time>
<s>卖给那个做实验的医学研究所</s>
<time>197_00:06:02,827 --> 00:06:03,907</time>
<s>就是你看他至少</s>
<time>198_00:06:04,267 --> 00:06:07,507</time>
<s>他从小就把这个经商这种</s>
<time>199_00:06:07,867 --> 00:06:09,667</time>
<s>但是说是这么说</s>
<time>200_00:06:10,027 --> 00:06:10,387</time>
<s>我很难相信</s>
<time>201_00:06:11,827 --> 00:06:12,527</time>
<s>中国父母有</s>
<time>202_00:06:12,887 --> 00:06:13,247</time>
<s>你让你的孩子</s>
<time>203_00:06:13,607 --> 00:06:13,967</time>
<s>我现在还没有</s>
<time>204_00:06:14,327 --> 00:06:14,687</time>
<s>他们还小</s>
<time>205_00:06:15,047 --> 00:06:16,487</time>
<s>但是我最近还访问了</s>
<time>206_00:06:16,847 --> 00:06:17,927</time>
<s>一个中国的孩子八岁</s>
<time>207_00:06:18,287 --> 00:06:19,007</time>
<s>我觉得中国父母</s>
<time>208_00:06:19,367 --> 00:06:20,807</time>
<s>得比他们那个再加一条</s>
<time>209_00:06:21,167 --> 00:06:21,887</time>
<s>更厉害</s>
<time>210_00:06:22,247 --> 00:06:22,602</time>
<s>什么呢</s>
<time>211_00:06:23,322 --> 00:06:23,682</time>
<s>我说这个小孩</s>
<time>212_00:06:24,042 --> 00:06:25,122</time>
<s>我说你现在你有什么</s>
<time>213_00:06:25,482 --> 00:06:25,842</time>
<s>你在忙什么</s>
<time>214_00:06:26,922 --> 00:06:28,002</time>
<s>一脸就是很正经</s>
<time>215_00:06:28,362 --> 00:06:30,162</time>
<s>一脸这个童稚加上这个严肃</s>
<time>216_00:06:31,242 --> 00:06:31,962</time>
<s>我的心愿吧</s>
<time>217_00:06:32,322 --> 00:06:33,749</time>
<s>就是要多挣钱</s>
<time>218_00:06:34,109 --> 00:06:36,269</time>
<s>扫地五块钱</s>
<time>219_00:06:36,629 --> 00:06:37,349</time>
<s>洗碗十块钱</s>
<time>220_00:06:39,149 --> 00:06:40,949</time>
<s>我最近的愿望就是要多挣钱</s>
<time>221_00:06:41,309 --> 00:06:42,029</time>
<s>我说挣了钱干嘛</s>
<time>222_00:06:42,389 --> 00:06:43,449</time>
<s>给爸爸妈妈买礼物</s>
<time>223_00:06:45,249 --> 00:06:46,329</time>
<s>就是说从父母那儿</s>
<time>224_00:06:46,689 --> 00:06:48,129</time>
<s>好容易挣了那么点钱</s>
<time>225_00:06:48,489 --> 00:06:49,209</time>
<s>还要加上一个孝道</s>
<time>226_00:06:50,649 --> 00:06:51,729</time>
<s>他父母我觉得太厉害</s>
<time>227_00:06:52,089 --> 00:06:53,523</time>
<s>还要返回去给父母买东西</s>
<time>228_00:06:53,883 --> 00:06:54,603</time>
<s>你知道吗</s>
<time>229_00:06:54,963 --> 00:06:55,683</time>
<s>孝敬嘛</s>
<time>230_00:06:56,043 --> 00:06:58,203</time>
<s>我说你父母太厉害了</s>
<time>231_00:06:58,563 --> 00:06:59,643</time>
<s>通常这样做法</s>
<time>232_00:07:00,003 --> 00:07:00,723</time>
<s>不管是什么李嘉诚</s>
<time>233_00:07:01,083 --> 00:07:02,871</time>
<s>洛什么什么勒</s>
<time>234_00:07:04,311 --> 00:07:04,671</time>
<s>我告诉你</s>
<time>235_00:07:05,031 --> 00:07:05,751</time>
<s>通常这样训练小孩</s>
<time>236_00:07:06,111 --> 00:07:07,551</time>
<s>因为刚都讲到钱嘛</s>
<time>237_00:07:07,911 --> 00:07:08,631</time>
<s>用钱来计算</s>
<time>238_00:07:08,991 --> 00:07:10,791</time>
<s>通常要么就是那个家庭</s>
<time>239_00:07:11,151 --> 00:07:12,231</time>
<s>应该是很有钱</s>
<time>240_00:07:12,591 --> 00:07:13,650</time>
<s>像李嘉诚为什么要这样</s>
<time>241_00:07:14,010 --> 00:07:15,090</time>
<s>训练两个儿子</s>
<time>242_00:07:15,450 --> 00:07:16,890</time>
<s>他知道以后我那几百亿</s>
<time>243_00:07:17,250 --> 00:07:18,690</time>
<s>都是他们继承的嘛</s>
<time>244_00:07:19,050 --> 00:07:20,490</time>
<s>我要培训他们能力</s>
<time>245_00:07:20,850 --> 00:07:23,005</time>
<s>什么有钱人都是这样</s>
<time>246_00:07:23,365 --> 00:07:25,525</time>
<s>人家那个什么巴菲特</s>
<time>247_00:07:25,885 --> 00:07:26,965</time>
<s>或者比尔·盖茨之类的</s>
<time>248_00:07:27,325 --> 00:07:28,765</time>
<s>（让孩子）小时候去麦当劳打工</s>
<time>249_00:07:29,125 --> 00:07:30,205</time>
<s>是因为我将来的几百亿</s>
<time>250_00:07:30,565 --> 00:07:30,925</time>
<s>不给你继承</s>
<time>251_00:07:32,365 --> 00:07:33,432</time>
<s>也有这种的对</s>
<time>252_00:07:33,792 --> 00:07:35,592</time>
<s>对那另外一个极端</s>
<time>253_00:07:35,952 --> 00:07:37,392</time>
<s>通常是因为家里穷</s>
<time>254_00:07:37,752 --> 00:07:39,552</time>
<s>就知道说你要赚钱</s>
<time>255_00:07:39,912 --> 00:07:42,072</time>
<s>因为要脱贫要离开</s>
<time>256_00:07:42,432 --> 00:07:43,491</time>
<s>因为别忘记</s>
<time>257_00:07:43,851 --> 00:07:47,451</time>
<s>父母亲有不同的状态</s>
<time>258_00:07:47,811 --> 00:07:49,611</time>
<s>像我很多中产的朋友</s>
<time>259_00:07:49,971 --> 00:07:52,131</time>
<s>搞艺术的文化的等等</s>
<time>260_00:07:52,491 --> 00:07:54,285</time>
<s>他们注重的不是这样</s>
<time>261_00:07:54,645 --> 00:07:56,805</time>
<s>当然也会叫他们去赚钱</s>
<time>262_00:07:57,165 --> 00:07:58,245</time>
<s>注重到最后是说</s>
<time>263_00:07:58,605 --> 00:08:00,405</time>
<s>你要发挥自己的才能</s>
<time>264_00:08:00,765 --> 00:08:01,485</time>
<s>可是你那个才能</s>
<time>265_00:08:01,845 --> 00:08:03,632</time>
<s>不一定在于管钱</s>
<time>266_00:08:03,992 --> 00:08:05,792</time>
<s>比方说音乐嘛</s>
<time>267_00:08:06,152 --> 00:08:07,592</time>
<s>还要不断去找寻</s>
<time>268_00:08:07,952 --> 00:08:09,392</time>
<s>小孩有才能的地方</s>
<time>269_00:08:09,752 --> 00:08:10,832</time>
<s>有talents（天赋）的地方</s>
<time>270_00:08:11,192 --> 00:08:12,272</time>
<s>其实我说一个</s>
<time>271_00:08:12,632 --> 00:08:14,411</time>
<s>很简单的大实话</s>
<time>272_00:08:14,771 --> 00:08:17,291</time>
<s>我自己后来觉得很认同</s>
<time>273_00:08:17,651 --> 00:08:18,731</time>
<s>就是也是听他们</s>
<time>274_00:08:19,091 --> 00:08:20,531</time>
<s>儿童心理学家说的</s>
<time>275_00:08:20,891 --> 00:08:23,405</time>
<s>就是你看咱们李玫瑾老师就说</s>
<time>276_00:08:23,765 --> 00:08:24,845</time>
<s>他到了一定年龄</s>
<time>277_00:08:25,205 --> 00:08:26,285</time>
<s>讲道理没有用</s>
<time>278_00:08:26,645 --> 00:08:27,365</time>
<s>不要讲道理</s>
<time>279_00:08:27,725 --> 00:08:29,525</time>
<s>可是实际上有一个很可悲的</s>
<time>280_00:08:29,885 --> 00:08:30,245</time>
<s>也不是叫很可悲</s>
<time>281_00:08:30,605 --> 00:08:32,765</time>
<s>很残酷的现实就是</s>
<time>282_00:08:33,125 --> 00:08:33,832</time>
<s>他是你的版</s>
<time>283_00:08:35,632 --> 00:08:38,512</time>
<s>你想他成为什么人</s>
<time>284_00:08:38,872 --> 00:08:39,592</time>
<s>那么你就想想</s>
<time>285_00:08:39,952 --> 00:08:41,032</time>
<s>你自己是什么人</s>
<time>286_00:08:41,392 --> 00:08:41,752</time>
<s>不容易了</s>
<time>287_00:08:42,112 --> 00:08:42,832</time>
<s>那个时代不一样</s>
<time>288_00:08:43,192 --> 00:08:46,771</time>
<s>这种大家都是说身教</s>
<time>289_00:08:47,131 --> 00:08:48,211</time>
<s>身教我们都懂的</s>
<time>290_00:08:48,571 --> 00:08:48,931</time>
<s>比方说</s>
<time>291_00:08:49,291 --> 00:08:50,731</time>
<s>行不言之教</s>
<time>292_00:08:51,091 --> 00:08:55,045</time>
<s>对以前比方说我们喜欢做讲座</s>
<time>293_00:08:55,405 --> 00:08:56,845</time>
<s>教人家父母亲</s>
<time>294_00:08:57,205 --> 00:08:58,645</time>
<s>如何培养小孩读书</s>
<time>295_00:08:59,005 --> 00:08:59,365</time>
<s>我们都懂</s>
<time>296_00:08:59,725 --> 00:09:01,165</time>
<s>说你父母亲要读书</s>
<time>297_00:09:01,525 --> 00:09:03,671</time>
<s>甚至说你要假装读书</s>
<time>298_00:09:04,031 --> 00:09:05,831</time>
<s>可是现在比较麻烦就是说</s>
<time>299_00:09:06,191 --> 00:09:07,271</time>
<s>有了网络世界</s>
<time>300_00:09:07,631 --> 00:09:07,991</time>
<s>网络世界</s>
<time>301_00:09:08,351 --> 00:09:10,511</time>
<s>人在成长过程里面说</s>
<time>302_00:09:10,871 --> 00:09:14,090</time>
<s>我感觉说父母亲所能控制</s>
<time>303_00:09:14,450 --> 00:09:16,250</time>
<s>所能影响的那一个部分</s>
<time>304_00:09:16,610 --> 00:09:17,690</time>
<s>越来越困难了</s>
<time>305_00:09:18,050 --> 00:09:20,930</time>
<s>但是你即便不是讲这个教</s>
<time>306_00:09:21,290 --> 00:09:23,804</time>
<s>你们到这个岁数有没有感觉到</s>
<time>307_00:09:24,164 --> 00:09:26,684</time>
<s>就是你越来在你身上</s>
<time>308_00:09:27,044 --> 00:09:27,764</time>
<s>越发现你父亲</s>
<time>309_00:09:29,564 --> 00:09:30,644</time>
<s>文道你觉得你的形成</s>
<time>310_00:09:31,004 --> 00:09:32,444</time>
<s>跟你的父亲有什么关系</s>
<time>311_00:09:32,804 --> 00:09:33,870</time>
<s>没有什么关系吧</s>
<time>312_00:09:34,230 --> 00:09:34,590</time>
<s>你哪儿来的</s>
<time>313_00:09:34,950 --> 00:09:35,670</time>
<s>因为很简单</s>
<time>314_00:09:36,030 --> 00:09:36,390</time>
<s>因为我小时候</s>
<time>315_00:09:36,750 --> 00:09:38,550</time>
<s>并不是跟父母住对不对</s>
<time>316_00:09:38,910 --> 00:09:40,710</time>
<s>我小时候是跟我外公外婆住</s>
<time>317_00:09:41,070 --> 00:09:41,430</time>
<s>尤其是我外公</s>
<time>318_00:09:43,230 --> 00:09:43,929</time>
<s>那时候我从</s>
<time>319_00:09:45,729 --> 00:09:48,249</time>
<s>整个小学阶段都跟我外公住</s>
<time>320_00:09:48,609 --> 00:09:48,969</time>
<s>然后我初中</s>
<time>321_00:09:49,329 --> 00:09:51,489</time>
<s>就已经住在学校宿舍了</s>
<time>322_00:09:51,849 --> 00:09:52,929</time>
<s>所以变得就是我比较</s>
<time>323_00:09:53,289 --> 00:09:54,722</time>
<s>不是那么受到</s>
<time>324_00:09:55,082 --> 00:09:56,162</time>
<s>我们核心家庭的影响</s>
<time>325_00:09:57,602 --> 00:09:58,682</time>
<s>它甚至可能还有一个遗传</s>
<time>326_00:10:00,482 --> 00:10:02,282</time>
<s>你比如说这个家辉</s>
<time>327_00:10:02,642 --> 00:10:04,068</time>
<s>我记得写过一个文章嘛</s>
<time>328_00:10:04,428 --> 00:10:06,228</time>
<s>就是说你的这个父亲</s>
<time>329_00:10:06,588 --> 00:10:07,308</time>
<s>我才知道家辉他父亲</s>
<time>330_00:10:07,668 --> 00:10:09,468</time>
<s>是香港一家有名报纸的总编</s>
<time>331_00:10:09,828 --> 00:10:10,188</time>
<s>对是的</s>
<time>332_00:10:10,548 --> 00:10:11,268</time>
<s>你才知道</s>
<time>333_00:10:11,628 --> 00:10:11,988</time>
<s>马老总</s>
<time>334_00:10:12,348 --> 00:10:14,127</time>
<s>所以这个你会写东西肯定是</s>
<time>335_00:10:14,847 --> 00:10:15,567</time>
<s>你真是越活越不出息了</s>
<time>336_00:10:17,367 --> 00:10:18,807</time>
<s>那当然是有影响</s>
<time>337_00:10:19,167 --> 00:10:21,687</time>
<s>假如你问我对于父亲什么感觉</s>
<time>338_00:10:22,047 --> 00:10:23,847</time>
<s>我脑海一定是一张照片的</s>
<time>339_00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:24,920</time>
<s>好像《2046》</s>
<time>340_00:10:25,280 --> 00:10:26,720</time>
<s>或者说《花样年华》的</s>
<time>341_00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:28,160</time>
<s>梁朝伟一样</s>
<time>342_00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:29,960</time>
<s>坐在报社里面</s>
<time>343_00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,840</time>
<s>一张办公桌一个灯</s>
<time>344_00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:35,346</time>
<s>放着那个稿纸</s>
<time>345_00:10:35,706 --> 00:10:36,066</time>
<s>然后写</s>
<time>346_00:10:36,426 --> 00:10:37,506</time>
<s>一边抽着烟</s>
<time>347_00:10:37,866 --> 00:10:38,226</time>
<s>那个影像</s>
<time>348_00:10:38,586 --> 00:10:39,666</time>
<s>因为我小时候见过</s>
<time>349_00:10:40,026 --> 00:10:40,746</time>
<s>我父亲那个影像</s>
<time>350_00:10:41,106 --> 00:10:41,466</time>
<s>就是这个样子</s>
<time>351_00:10:41,826 --> 00:10:42,906</time>
<s>他就告诉我说</s>
<time>352_00:10:43,266 --> 00:10:45,764</time>
<s>让我感觉到笔是温暖的</s>
<time>353_00:10:46,124 --> 00:10:47,204</time>
<s>纸是温暖的</s>
<time>354_00:10:47,564 --> 00:10:48,644</time>
<s>那写作是美好的</s>
<time>355_00:10:49,004 --> 00:10:50,444</time>
<s>我当时当然不知道</s>
<time>356_00:10:50,804 --> 00:10:51,884</time>
<s>原来他在写马经</s>
<time>357_00:10:52,964 --> 00:10:54,044</time>
<s>我当记者</s>
<time>358_00:10:54,398 --> 00:10:55,118</time>
<s>像买彩票似的</s>
<time>359_00:10:55,478 --> 00:10:56,558</time>
<s>没有因为他</s>
<time>360_00:10:56,918 --> 00:10:57,638</time>
<s>他父亲那份报纸</s>
<time>361_00:10:57,998 --> 00:10:58,718</time>
<s>是以马经闻名的</s>
<time>362_00:10:59,078 --> 00:11:01,238</time>
<s>香港报纸有专门的专版</s>
<time>363_00:11:01,598 --> 00:11:02,318</time>
<s>就是那个马经</s>
<time>364_00:11:02,678 --> 00:11:03,398</time>
<s>而且他穷</s>
<time>365_00:11:03,758 --> 00:11:04,823</time>
<s>我们家穷</s>
<time>366_00:11:05,183 --> 00:11:07,343</time>
<s>他当记者一天要写九个专栏</s>
<time>367_00:11:07,703 --> 00:11:08,783</time>
<s>什么评论</s>
<time>368_00:11:09,143 --> 00:11:09,863</time>
<s>什么都要写</s>
<time>369_00:11:10,223 --> 00:11:11,663</time>
<s>这样把一家子养大</s>
<time>370_00:11:12,023 --> 00:11:13,103</time>
<s>所以除了告诉我说</s>
<time>371_00:11:13,463 --> 00:11:14,183</time>
<s>写作是好的</s>
<time>372_00:11:14,521 --> 00:11:15,601</time>
<s>还有负责任</s>
<time>373_00:11:15,961 --> 00:11:18,121</time>
<s>再怎么样都要准时交稿</s>
<time>374_00:11:18,481 --> 00:11:19,921</time>
<s>所以我不是有个外号吗</s>
<time>375_00:11:20,281 --> 00:11:21,001</time>
<s>叫“稿神"吗</s>
<time>376_00:11:21,361 --> 00:11:22,441</time>
<s>我以为叫“马准时”</s>
<time>377_00:11:22,801 --> 00:11:23,521</time>
<s>可是话说回来</s>
<time>378_00:11:23,881 --> 00:11:25,675</time>
<s>当然我父亲年纪大了老了</s>
<time>379_00:11:26,035 --> 00:11:27,115</time>
<s>现在不写了</s>
<time>380_00:11:27,475 --> 00:11:28,555</time>
<s>都在玩平板电脑</s>
<time>381_00:11:28,915 --> 00:11:29,635</time>
<s>都在玩手机</s>
<time>382_00:11:29,995 --> 00:11:31,435</time>
<s>而且比较有烦恼</s>
<time>383_00:11:31,795 --> 00:11:35,380</time>
<s>前几天原来我父亲学懂了</s>
<time>384_00:11:35,740 --> 00:11:39,700</time>
<s>用那个通讯软件WhatsApp</s>
<time>385_00:11:40,060 --> 00:11:40,780</time>
<s>用那个传</s>
<time>386_00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:43,660</time>
<s>我有一天突然收到他传来的</s>
<time>387_00:11:44,020 --> 00:11:45,438</time>
<s>我的那种感觉</s>
<time>388_00:11:45,798 --> 00:11:47,958</time>
<s>因为坦白讲父亲老了嘛对不对</s>
<time>389_00:11:48,318 --> 00:11:50,838</time>
<s>跟他吃饭就吃饭</s>
<time>390_00:11:51,198 --> 00:11:52,638</time>
<s>他也不太讲话</s>
<time>391_00:11:52,998 --> 00:11:55,151</time>
<s>那可是现在学了</s>
<time>392_00:11:55,511 --> 00:11:57,671</time>
<s>他学了懂得用那个跟我沟通</s>
<time>393_00:11:58,031 --> 00:11:59,831</time>
<s>我一方面温暖了五秒钟</s>
<time>394_00:12:00,191 --> 00:12:01,271</time>
<s>之后就烦死了</s>
<time>395_00:12:01,631 --> 00:12:01,991</time>
<s>你知道</s>
<time>396_00:12:02,351 --> 00:12:02,711</time>
<s>不断要回他</s>
<time>397_00:12:03,071 --> 00:12:04,151</time>
<s>父亲问你问题</s>
<time>398_00:12:04,511 --> 00:12:05,216</time>
<s>你不能不回</s>
<time>399_00:12:05,576 --> 00:12:07,736</time>
<s>父亲说昨天吃了什么</s>
<time>400_00:12:08,096 --> 00:12:10,256</time>
<s>就让我回到我几岁</s>
<time>401_00:12:10,616 --> 00:12:11,336</time>
<s>十多岁的时候</s>
<time>402_00:12:11,696 --> 00:12:13,856</time>
<s>每天被父母亲来问候</s>
<time>403_00:12:14,216 --> 00:12:15,274</time>
<s>来问那个</s>
<time>404_00:12:15,634 --> 00:12:18,874</time>
<s>那所以现在每天要花两个钟头</s>
<time>405_00:12:19,234 --> 00:12:20,314</time>
<s>来回我父亲</s>
<time>406_00:12:20,674 --> 00:12:22,114</time>
<s>种种的问候的讯息</s>
<time>407_00:12:22,474 --> 00:12:23,554</time>
<s>可是有好处</s>
<time>408_00:12:23,914 --> 00:12:24,987</time>
<s>也有蛮感动的</s>
<time>409_00:12:25,347 --> 00:12:26,067</time>
<s>再过了一天</s>
<time>410_00:12:26,427 --> 00:12:27,507</time>
<s>发生了事情</s>
<time>411_00:12:27,867 --> 00:12:29,307</time>
<s>他家电脑坏掉</s>
<time>412_00:12:29,667 --> 00:12:32,907</time>
<s>我找一个年轻朋友去替他</s>
<time>413_00:12:33,267 --> 00:12:34,347</time>
<s>去他家替他修</s>
<time>414_00:12:34,707 --> 00:12:35,412</time>
<s>不用花我时间</s>
<time>415_00:12:35,772 --> 00:12:37,932</time>
<s>然后我付钱给我朋友</s>
<time>416_00:12:38,292 --> 00:12:40,092</time>
<s>然后我已经提醒我父亲</s>
<time>417_00:12:40,452 --> 00:12:41,532</time>
<s>钱我来解决</s>
<time>418_00:12:41,892 --> 00:12:43,692</time>
<s>他的酬劳我来解决</s>
<time>419_00:12:44,052 --> 00:12:45,469</time>
<s>你不要付给他</s>
<time>420_00:12:45,829 --> 00:12:47,629</time>
<s>我会懂得行情跟他算</s>
<time>421_00:12:47,989 --> 00:12:49,789</time>
<s>结果后来那个年轻朋友</s>
<time>422_00:12:50,149 --> 00:12:50,869</time>
<s>走了就告诉我</s>
<time>423_00:12:51,229 --> 00:12:53,389</time>
<s>马先生你父亲已经给我钱了</s>
<time>424_00:12:53,749 --> 00:12:54,469</time>
<s>你就不用付了</s>
<time>425_00:12:54,829 --> 00:12:55,902</time>
<s>我就很生气</s>
<time>426_00:12:56,262 --> 00:12:58,422</time>
<s>因为这样搞乱了我们的安排</s>
<time>427_00:12:58,782 --> 00:12:59,142</time>
<s>对不对</s>
<time>428_00:12:59,502 --> 00:13:01,302</time>
<s>我知道说我麻烦你两个钟头</s>
<time>429_00:13:01,662 --> 00:13:02,742</time>
<s>我要付你多少钱</s>
<time>430_00:13:03,102 --> 00:13:05,247</time>
<s>然后我就忍不住说了我父亲</s>
<time>431_00:13:05,607 --> 00:13:06,327</time>
<s>也用Whatsapp</s>
<time>432_00:13:06,687 --> 00:13:08,487</time>
<s>我嘴巴是不可能敢说</s>
<time>433_00:13:08,847 --> 00:13:10,647</time>
<s>我父亲不好的话</s>
<time>434_00:13:11,007 --> 00:13:11,727</time>
<s>就跟他讲说</s>
<time>435_00:13:12,087 --> 00:13:13,527</time>
<s>我已经告诉了你</s>
<time>436_00:13:13,887 --> 00:13:14,967</time>
<s>提醒了你不要给他钱</s>
