<time>880_00:29:31,602 --> 00:29:32,682</time>
<s>学生我特别理解他们</s>
<time>881_00:29:33,402 --> 00:29:33,762</time>
<s>2006级的学生</s>
<time>882_00:29:34,122 --> 00:29:35,202</time>
<s>就是我当班主任</s>
<time>883_00:29:35,922 --> 00:29:37,002</time>
<s>他们2010年毕业</s>
<time>884_00:29:37,362 --> 00:29:38,802</time>
<s>他们其实是不愁工作的</s>
<time>885_00:29:39,162 --> 00:29:40,602</time>
<s>甚至一个学生拿几个</s>
<time>886_00:29:40,962 --> 00:29:41,682</time>
<s>工作机会</s>
<time>887_00:29:42,042 --> 00:29:42,402</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>888_00:29:42,762 --> 00:29:43,122</time>
<s>而且他们从来不担心</s>
<time>889_00:29:43,482 --> 00:29:44,562</time>
<s>我留不下广州</s>
<time>890_00:29:45,642 --> 00:29:46,362</time>
<s>从来没有学生跟我谈论</s>
<time>891_00:29:46,722 --> 00:29:48,162</time>
<s>毕业以后房子怎么办的问题</s>
<time>892_00:29:48,882 --> 00:29:49,602</time>
<s>但是我</s>
<time>893_00:29:51,042 --> 00:29:51,762</time>
<s>带的第二届学生</s>
<time>894_00:29:52,122 --> 00:29:53,202</time>
<s>就是2015年入校的</s>
<time>895_00:29:53,562 --> 00:29:54,642</time>
<s>2019年毕业的学生</s>
<time>896_00:29:55,362 --> 00:29:55,722</time>
<s>那他们有时候</s>
<time>897_00:29:56,082 --> 00:29:56,802</time>
<s>有个男孩子直接跟我说</s>
<time>898_00:29:57,162 --> 00:29:57,522</time>
<s>他说黄老师</s>
<time>899_00:29:57,882 --> 00:29:59,682</time>
<s>我一直关注龙洞的房价变化</s>
<time>900_00:30:02,202 --> 00:30:02,922</time>
<s>因为我们学校会贴</s>
<time>901_00:30:03,282 --> 00:30:04,002</time>
<s>很多这个广告</s>
<time>902_00:30:04,722 --> 00:30:05,082</time>
<s>他说哎呦</s>
<time>903_00:30:05,442 --> 00:30:06,162</time>
<s>我刚刚进来的时候是多少</s>
<time>904_00:30:06,522 --> 00:30:07,242</time>
<s>现在又是多少</s>
<time>905_00:30:07,962 --> 00:30:08,322</time>
<s>他说真的</s>
<time>906_00:30:08,682 --> 00:30:09,402</time>
<s>他说黄老师好难啊</s>
<time>907_00:30:10,122 --> 00:30:10,842</time>
<s>就这么跟我说</s>
<time>908_00:30:11,562 --> 00:30:13,362</time>
<s>然后这个气氛对于</s>
<time>909_00:30:13,722 --> 00:30:14,082</time>
<s>对于你教的学生的</s>
<time>910_00:30:14,442 --> 00:30:15,882</time>
<s>这种变化影响是</s>
<time>911_00:30:16,242 --> 00:30:16,602</time>
<s>很直接吧</s>
<time>912_00:30:16,962 --> 00:30:18,042</time>
<s>非常直接了</s>
<time>913_00:30:18,402 --> 00:30:19,122</time>
<s>就是大学生会觉得</s>
<time>914_00:30:20,922 --> 00:30:22,362</time>
<s>也就是说（读大学）性价比低了</s>
<time>915_00:30:23,082 --> 00:30:24,522</time>
<s>其实我一开始写这本书</s>
<time>916_00:30:24,882 --> 00:30:26,682</time>
<s>我要表达的观念就很明确了</s>
<time>917_00:30:27,042 --> 00:30:28,122</time>
<s>其实就是说</s>
<time>918_00:30:29,562 --> 00:30:30,642</time>
<s>教育产业化以后</s>
<time>919_00:30:31,722 --> 00:30:33,522</time>
<s>教育和那些年轻人的命运之间</s>
<time>920_00:30:33,882 --> 00:30:35,322</time>
<s>到底是一种什么样的关系</s>
<time>921_00:30:36,762 --> 00:30:37,842</time>
<s>很多网友会说</s>
<time>922_00:30:38,562 --> 00:30:39,282</time>
<s>你就看到了问题</s>
<time>923_00:30:39,642 --> 00:30:40,362</time>
<s>但是你没有提出</s>
<time>924_00:30:40,722 --> 00:30:41,802</time>
<s>方法和解决的措施</s>
<time>925_00:30:42,522 --> 00:30:44,322</time>
<s>我觉得这个我真的做不到</s>
<time>926_00:30:44,682 --> 00:30:45,042</time>
<s>这个他们也是瞎说</s>
<time>927_00:30:45,402 --> 00:30:45,762</time>
<s>没有答案</s>
<time>928_00:30:46,122 --> 00:30:46,482</time>
<s>也不是</s>
<time>929_00:30:46,842 --> 00:30:47,202</time>
<s>不是瞎说</s>
<time>930_00:30:47,562 --> 00:30:49,002</time>
<s>其实每个人都渴望有答案</s>
<time>931_00:30:49,722 --> 00:30:50,442</time>
<s>给个初步答案呢</s>
<time>932_00:30:52,962 --> 00:30:54,402</time>
<s>你肯定在想这个问题</s>
<time>933_00:30:59,802 --> 00:31:00,522</time>
<s>其实真的还是</s>
<time>934_00:31:00,882 --> 00:31:01,242</time>
<s>找到自己</s>
<time>935_00:31:02,322 --> 00:31:03,402</time>
<s>我为什么写作</s>
<time>936_00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:05,562</time>
<s>其实这就是我的通道</s>
<time>937_00:31:06,642 --> 00:31:07,362</time>
<s>我走了很多弯路</s>
<time>938_00:31:07,722 --> 00:31:08,442</time>
<s>我一直在</s>
<time>939_00:31:08,802 --> 00:31:09,522</time>
<s>维护自己的那种</s>
<time>940_00:31:09,882 --> 00:31:10,962</time>
<s>很脆弱的东西</s>
<time>941_00:31:12,042 --> 00:31:13,122</time>
<s>我真的觉得写作</s>
<time>942_00:31:13,842 --> 00:31:15,282</time>
<s>其实是（为了）把自我建构起来</s>
<time>943_00:31:30,762 --> 00:31:32,562</time>
<s>那就是我们老家以前的大门</s>
<time>944_00:31:34,362 --> 00:31:35,082</time>
<s>就留下了那个东西</s>
<time>945_00:31:35,802 --> 00:31:36,162</time>
<s>都没了</s>
<time>946_00:31:36,522 --> 00:31:36,882</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>947_00:31:40,122 --> 00:31:40,842</time>
<s>我忘记是在我武汉大学三年级</s>
<time>948_00:31:41,562 --> 00:31:42,282</time>
<s>还是在中山大学一年级</s>
<time>949_00:31:42,642 --> 00:31:43,362</time>
<s>我爸有一次问我</s>
<time>950_00:31:44,442 --> 00:31:45,522</time>
<s>他说你们这些搞文学批评的</s>
<time>951_00:31:45,882 --> 00:31:46,602</time>
<s>到底在干什么</s>
<time>952_00:31:48,402 --> 00:31:49,842</time>
<s>那句话问得我好羞愧</s>
<time>953_00:31:53,802 --> 00:31:54,162</time>
<s>其实我觉得他那句话</s>
<time>954_00:31:54,882 --> 00:31:55,602</time>
<s>对我触动真的蛮大</s>
<time>955_00:31:56,682 --> 00:31:57,762</time>
<s>我后来经常反省</s>
<time>956_00:31:58,482 --> 00:31:59,922</time>
<s>你如果连这个问题都没有办法</s>
<time>957_00:32:00,642 --> 00:32:01,362</time>
<s>特别坦诚地回答</s>
<time>958_00:32:01,722 --> 00:32:02,442</time>
<s>是有问题的</s>
<time>959_00:32:09,282 --> 00:32:10,362</time>
<s>其实我就不好意思说</s>
<time>960_00:32:11,442 --> 00:32:12,522</time>
<s>从小我的脑子里面就是</s>
<time>961_00:32:13,242 --> 00:32:14,322</time>
<s>一定要离开这里</s>
<time>962_00:32:15,042 --> 00:32:15,762</time>
<s>跟以前的生活</s>
<time>963_00:32:16,482 --> 00:32:17,562</time>
<s>一刀两断</s>
<time>964_00:32:18,642 --> 00:32:20,082</time>
<s>你看我从小在外婆家长大</s>
<time>965_00:32:20,802 --> 00:32:21,162</time>
<s>我就会</s>
<time>966_00:32:21,882 --> 00:32:22,962</time>
<s>小孩子敏感嘛</s>
<time>967_00:32:23,322 --> 00:32:24,402</time>
<s>你就会察言观色</s>
<time>968_00:32:25,482 --> 00:32:26,922</time>
<s>我外婆舅舅对我特别好</s>
<time>969_00:32:27,642 --> 00:32:29,802</time>
<s>但是我知道有些话是不能说的</s>
<time>970_00:32:30,162 --> 00:32:31,602</time>
<s>有些事你是要收敛一点的</s>
<time>971_00:32:33,402 --> 00:32:34,482</time>
<s>我在我外婆那边</s>
<time>972_00:32:35,202 --> 00:32:35,922</time>
<s>那个生产队</s>
<time>973_00:32:36,642 --> 00:32:37,722</time>
<s>八十年代初期的时候</s>
<time>974_00:32:38,082 --> 00:32:39,162</time>
<s>我大概就是六岁多</s>
<time>975_00:32:40,242 --> 00:32:41,682</time>
<s>他们在晒谷坪里面分谷子</s>
<time>976_00:32:42,402 --> 00:32:43,842</time>
<s>我去找队长要谷子</s>
<time>977_00:32:44,202 --> 00:32:44,562</time>
<s>然后他就说</s>
<time>978_00:32:44,922 --> 00:32:45,642</time>
<s>你不是这里的人</s>
<time>979_00:32:46,002 --> 00:32:47,442</time>
<s>你姓黄他们都姓鲁</s>
<time>980_00:32:50,322 --> 00:32:51,402</time>
<s>小朋友就有身份困惑</s>
<time>981_00:32:51,762 --> 00:32:52,842</time>
<s>有真的好明显</s>
<time>982_00:32:53,202 --> 00:32:54,282</time>
<s>我觉得我特明显</s>
<time>983_00:32:54,642 --> 00:32:55,002</time>
<s>我那个时候回来</s>
<time>984_00:32:55,362 --> 00:32:56,082</time>
<s>我都不叫回家的</s>
<time>985_00:32:56,442 --> 00:32:57,162</time>
<s>我说到你们家来了</s>
<time>986_00:32:57,522 --> 00:32:58,242</time>
<s>然后我姐姐她</s>
<time>987_00:32:58,962 --> 00:33:00,042</time>
<s>因为我讲的话跟她们不一样</s>
<time>988_00:33:00,762 --> 00:33:01,482</time>
<s>姐妹之间发生矛盾</s>
<time>989_00:33:01,842 --> 00:33:02,562</time>
<s>她就觉得你连讲的话</s>
<time>990_00:33:02,922 --> 00:33:03,642</time>
<s>都跟我们不一样</s>
<time>991_00:33:04,002 --> 00:33:04,722</time>
<s>你是外面的人</s>
<time>992_00:33:05,082 --> 00:33:05,442</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>993_00:33:08,682 --> 00:33:10,482</time>
<s>所以我从小脑子里面</s>
<time>994_00:33:11,202 --> 00:33:13,002</time>
<s>那种独立的愿望特别强烈</s>
<time>995_00:33:13,722 --> 00:33:15,162</time>
<s>也更渴望得到尊重</s>
<time>996_00:33:15,882 --> 00:33:16,962</time>
<s>就想考出去</s>
<time>997_00:33:18,402 --> 00:33:19,482</time>
<s>你看我们前面那条路</s>
<time>998_00:33:20,202 --> 00:33:20,562</time>
<s>你知道我每年</s>
<time>999_00:33:20,922 --> 00:33:22,002</time>
<s>最期望的事情是什么</s>
<time>1000_00:33:22,362 --> 00:33:23,442</time>
<s>虽然那个时候说回家了</s>
<time>1001_00:33:24,162 --> 00:33:24,882</time>
<s>叫作你们家</s>
<time>1002_00:33:25,242 --> 00:33:26,682</time>
<s>但是我每次一放</s>
<time>1003_00:33:27,042 --> 00:33:28,482</time>
<s>寒假和暑假那几天</s>
<time>1004_00:33:28,842 --> 00:33:29,922</time>
<s>我就知道要赶快回来</s>
<time>1005_00:33:30,642 --> 00:33:31,362</time>
<s>因为我知道</s>
<time>1006_00:33:31,722 --> 00:33:32,442</time>
<s>那些在外面读书的</s>
<time>1007_00:33:32,802 --> 00:33:33,162</time>
<s>我爸爸那些学生</s>
<time>1008_00:33:33,882 --> 00:33:34,602</time>
<s>他们放假了</s>
<time>1009_00:33:34,962 --> 00:33:35,682</time>
<s>他们放假第一件事情</s>
<time>1010_00:33:36,042 --> 00:33:36,762</time>
<s>就是到我们家来</s>
<time>1011_00:33:37,122 --> 00:33:37,482</time>
<s>我就觉得我一定要</s>
<time>1012_00:33:37,842 --> 00:33:38,922</time>
<s>赶在这几天回来</s>
<time>1013_00:33:40,722 --> 00:33:41,802</time>
<s>赶回来就听他们聊天</s>
<time>1014_00:33:42,162 --> 00:33:43,242</time>
<s>而且那些学生</s>
<time>1015_00:33:43,602 --> 00:33:45,042</time>
<s>特别乐意跟我爸爸描述</s>
<time>1016_00:33:45,402 --> 00:33:46,482</time>
<s>外面是什么样子的</s>
<time>1017_00:33:47,202 --> 00:33:47,922</time>
<s>比如那个时候的海口</s>
<time>1018_00:33:48,282 --> 00:33:48,642</time>
<s>是什么样子</s>
<time>1019_00:33:49,722 --> 00:33:50,442</time>
<s>还有北京上海天津</s>
<time>1020_00:33:51,522 --> 00:33:52,962</time>
<s>好几个就在那边读书</s>
<time>1021_00:33:54,042 --> 00:33:54,762</time>
<s>所以你其实</s>
<time>1022_00:33:55,122 --> 00:33:56,562</time>
<s>一直对外面的世界感兴趣</s>
<time>1023_00:33:57,282 --> 00:33:57,642</time>
<s>很向往</s>
<time>1024_00:33:58,002 --> 00:33:58,722</time>
<s>很好奇</s>
<time>1025_00:33:59,442 --> 00:33:59,802</time>
<s>真的</s>
<time>1026_00:34:00,522 --> 00:34:01,242</time>
<s>就特别渴望的</s>
<time>1027_00:34:01,602 --> 00:34:03,402</time>
<s>就是那种诗与远方</s>
<time>1028_00:34:14,202 --> 00:34:15,282</time>
<s>我当然是不满意</s>
<time>1029_00:34:15,642 --> 00:34:16,002</time>
<s>因为我</s>
<time>1030_00:34:16,361 --> 00:34:17,442</time>
<s>一个最好的朋友叫方利平</s>
<time>1031_00:34:17,802 --> 00:34:18,882</time>
<s>她都考到北大去了</s>
<time>1032_00:34:24,282 --> 00:34:24,642</time>
<s>我还是喜欢读书</s>
<time>1033_00:34:25,362 --> 00:34:26,802</time>
<s>我哪怕在工厂也一直读书</s>
<time>1034_00:34:28,602 --> 00:34:30,042</time>
<s>我是最早一批下岗的</s>
<time>1035_00:34:30,762 --> 00:34:31,482</time>
<s>还挺开心的</s>
<time>1036_00:34:31,842 --> 00:34:33,281</time>
<s>就自己开始复习考研了</s>
<time>1037_00:34:38,321 --> 00:34:39,402</time>
<s>当时国内最有名的</s>
<time>1038_00:34:40,122 --> 00:34:41,201</time>
<s>文学批评家是谁</s>
<time>1039_00:34:41,922 --> 00:34:42,642</time>
<s>童庆炳</s>
<time>1040_00:34:43,362 --> 00:34:43,722</time>
<s>钱理群老师</s>
<time>1041_00:34:44,442 --> 00:34:46,241</time>
<s>钱理群老师当年很有号召力的</s>
<time>1042_00:34:46,602 --> 00:34:47,322</time>
<s>他那时候在我们学校上课</s>
<time>1043_00:34:47,682 --> 00:34:48,762</time>
<s>三百个人的教室</s>
<time>1044_00:34:49,842 --> 00:34:50,562</time>
<s>窗台上都坐满人</s>
<time>1045_00:34:50,922 --> 00:34:51,282</time>
<s>哇</s>
<time>1046_00:34:52,002 --> 00:34:52,362</time>
<s>我觉得那个时候</s>
<time>1047_00:34:52,722 --> 00:34:54,162</time>
<s>对学术的理解和向往</s>
<time>1048_00:34:54,522 --> 00:34:56,321</time>
<s>就应该是那种场景</s>
<time>1049_00:35:19,002 --> 00:35:19,721</time>
<s>这个变化还是挺</s>
<time>1050_00:35:21,162 --> 00:35:22,242</time>
<s>你做工人</s>
<time>1051_00:35:22,602 --> 00:35:22,962</time>
<s>做了一段时间工人</s>
<time>1052_00:35:23,682 --> 00:35:24,402</time>
<s>然后突然考研究生</s>
<time>1053_00:35:26,562 --> 00:35:27,642</time>
<s>进入那样一个语言系统</s>
<time>1054_00:35:28,362 --> 00:35:29,442</time>
<s>那种学术生活</s>
<time>1055_00:35:30,522 --> 00:35:31,241</time>
<s>真的吸引过你吗</s>
<time>1056_00:35:34,122 --> 00:35:35,922</time>
<s>其实也还挺喜欢的</s>
<time>1057_00:35:37,362 --> 00:35:38,442</time>
<s>就是你思考问题的时候</s>
<time>1058_00:35:38,802 --> 00:35:39,161</time>
<s>写作的时候</s>
<time>1059_00:35:39,522 --> 00:35:40,602</time>
<s>我觉得还是很快乐的</s>
<time>1060_00:35:42,041 --> 00:35:43,482</time>
<s>但是你后来发现你写的东西</s>
<time>1061_00:35:44,202 --> 00:35:45,642</time>
<s>就那么几个人看</s>
<time>1062_00:35:47,082 --> 00:35:48,522</time>
<s>你会觉得好像白干了</s>
<time>1063_00:35:49,241 --> 00:35:49,602</time>
<s>就有那种感觉</s>
<time>1064_00:35:49,962 --> 00:35:51,041</time>
<s>有点沮丧感</s>
<time>1065_00:35:53,562 --> 00:35:53,922</time>
<s>再后来又写的话</s>
<time>1066_00:35:54,282 --> 00:35:55,362</time>
<s>整个学术环境变化以后</s>
<time>1067_00:35:57,161 --> 00:35:59,322</time>
<s>你发文章变成要去求别人</s>
<time>1068_00:35:59,682 --> 00:36:01,482</time>
<s>那个时候就真的觉得不舒服了</s>
<time>1069_00:36:01,842 --> 00:36:02,562</time>
<s>就变成了一个</s>
<time>1070_00:36:03,282 --> 00:36:04,721</time>
<s>写论文发表论文</s>
<time>1071_00:36:05,082 --> 00:36:05,802</time>
<s>去换取东西的人</s>
<time>1072_00:36:06,162 --> 00:36:07,602</time>
<s>我觉得这个没法说服我自己</s>
<time>1073_00:36:08,682 --> 00:36:10,482</time>
<s>那是二零零几年左右是吧</s>
<time>1074_00:36:11,202 --> 00:36:11,562</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>1075_00:36:22,002 --> 00:36:22,722</time>
<s>就是在那段时间</s>
<time>1076_00:36:23,082 --> 00:36:23,802</time>
<s>我爸就问了</s>
<time>1077_00:36:24,162 --> 00:36:25,242</time>
<s>你到底在干什么</s>
<time>1078_00:36:26,681 --> 00:36:28,482</time>
<s>这个问题没有办法回答</s>
<time>1079_00:36:29,202 --> 00:36:29,922</time>
<s>就有一天好奇怪</s>
<time>1080_00:36:30,641 --> 00:36:32,082</time>
<s>我印象还记得那个时刻</s>
<time>1081_00:36:32,442 --> 00:36:34,242</time>
<s>从食堂里面打一份饭吃完了</s>
<time>1082_00:36:35,322 --> 00:36:35,682</time>
<s>然后坐在电脑前</s>
<time>1083_00:36:36,402 --> 00:36:37,122</time>
<s>突然就很伤感</s>
<time>1084_00:36:38,562 --> 00:36:39,642</time>
<s>六月份的时候大概是</s>
<time>1085_00:36:40,362 --> 00:36:40,721</time>
<s>特伤感</s>
<time>1086_00:36:41,082 --> 00:36:41,442</time>
<s>然后就敲了那一篇</s>
<time>1087_00:36:48,642 --> 00:36:49,361</time>
<s>我有好多话要说</s>
<time>1088_00:36:50,082 --> 00:36:50,802</time>
<s>我就这样敲吧</s>
<time>1089_00:36:51,161 --> 00:36:51,882</time>
<s>也没想它的文体</s>
<time>1090_00:36:52,241 --> 00:36:52,602</time>
<s>也没想选材</s>
<time>1091_00:36:52,962 --> 00:36:53,322</time>
<s>啥都没想</s>
<time>1092_00:36:54,042 --> 00:36:55,122</time>
<s>就接着写写写</s>
<time>1093_00:36:55,842 --> 00:36:56,562</time>
<s>就写了二十多天</s>
<time>1094_00:36:57,281 --> 00:36:57,642</time>
<s>一股蛮力</s>
<time>1095_00:37:28,962 --> 00:37:30,762</time>
<s>这本书是一本放血式的书</s>
<time>1096_00:37:31,482 --> 00:37:32,922</time>
<s>就是不知深浅</s>
<time>1097_00:37:33,282 --> 00:37:34,002</time>
<s>也没有那么多规训</s>
<time>1098_00:37:34,722 --> 00:37:35,442</time>
<s>就是一股脑把你的经验</s>
<time>1099_00:37:35,802 --> 00:37:36,161</time>
<s>全部倒出来了</s>
<time>1100_00:37:37,241 --> 00:37:38,682</time>
<s>它就让你好像彻底地唤醒了</s>
<time>1101_00:37:39,042 --> 00:37:40,122</time>
<s>用那种方式</s>
<time>1102_00:37:40,841 --> 00:37:41,201</time>
<s>就是</s>
<time>1103_00:37:41,922 --> 00:37:42,282</time>
<s>这么多年以来</s>
<time>1104_00:37:42,642 --> 00:37:44,082</time>
<s>我一直就只注重这个目标感</s>
<time>1105_00:37:45,162 --> 00:37:45,881</time>
<s>但是一个人的意义感</s>
<time>1106_00:37:47,322 --> 00:37:48,762</time>
<s>就能够建构出来的</s>
<time>1107_00:37:49,482 --> 00:37:50,562</time>
<s>以前没这个感觉</s>
<time>1108_00:37:50,922 --> 00:37:52,002</time>
<s>后来回过头去看</s>
<time>1109_00:37:53,442 --> 00:37:54,161</time>
<s>其实你做的事情</s>
<time>1110_00:37:56,322 --> 00:37:56,682</time>
<s>你看我</s>
<time>1111_00:37:57,402 --> 00:37:58,482</time>
<s>虽然说七岁多之前</s>
<time>1112_00:37:58,842 --> 00:37:59,922</time>
<s>我从来没看过一本书</s>
<time>1113_00:38:00,642 --> 00:38:01,002</time>
<s>不认识一个字</s>
<time>1114_00:38:02,082 --> 00:38:03,522</time>
<s>就跟知识是没关系的</s>
<time>1115_00:38:04,242 --> 00:38:05,322</time>
<s>但是我跟我外婆长大</s>
<time>1116_00:38:06,041 --> 00:38:06,762</time>
<s>我外婆比我大六十岁</s>
<time>1117_00:38:07,121 --> 00:38:08,202</time>
<s>我一直就听故事长大的</s>
<time>1118_00:38:08,922 --> 00:38:09,642</time>
<s>听老人讲故事</s>
<time>1119_00:38:10,722 --> 00:38:11,442</time>
<s>所以我从小的话</s>
<time>1120_00:38:11,802 --> 00:38:12,522</time>
<s>我的脑子里面就是</s>
<time>1121_00:38:12,882 --> 00:38:13,242</time>
<s>不同时代的人</s>
<time>1122_00:38:13,962 --> 00:38:15,042</time>
<s>在我的脑子里走来走去</s>
<time>1123_00:38:15,402 --> 00:38:16,842</time>
<s>这可能对我是另外一种滋养</s>
<time>1124_00:38:17,562 --> 00:38:19,362</time>
<s>所以人真的很神奇啊</s>
<time>1125_00:38:20,082 --> 00:38:20,802</time>
<s>小时候的文化基因</s>
<time>1126_00:38:21,162 --> 00:38:21,882</time>
<s>会一直伴随着你</s>
<time>1127_00:38:22,242 --> 00:38:23,322</time>
<s>我觉得所有的东西</s>
<time>1128_00:38:23,682 --> 00:38:24,402</time>
<s>只要是在你生命里面</s>
<time>1129_00:38:24,762 --> 00:38:25,842</time>
<s>走过和经过的东西</s>
<time>1130_00:38:26,562 --> 00:38:27,642</time>
<s>它其实一直在的</s>
<time>1131_00:38:28,002 --> 00:38:29,802</time>
<s>包括很多印象片刻式的</s>
<time>1132_00:38:30,162 --> 00:38:31,242</time>
<s>某个人说的某句话</s>
<time>1133_00:38:31,962 --> 00:38:33,041</time>
<s>只要是在你的生命里经过的</s>
<time>1134_00:38:33,402 --> 00:38:33,762</time>
<s>都会留下烙印</s>
<time>1135_00:38:34,842 --> 00:38:35,202</time>
<s>就不知道它什么时候苏醒</s>
<time>1136_00:38:36,642 --> 00:38:37,002</time>
<s>但是</s>
<time>1137_00:38:37,362 --> 00:38:38,082</time>
<s>生活经验</s>
<time>1138_00:38:38,442 --> 00:38:39,161</time>
<s>它其实不能</s>
<time>1139_00:38:39,522 --> 00:38:40,962</time>
<s>拼命地去揉它的</s>
<time>1140_00:38:41,322 --> 00:38:42,042</time>
<s>你不能说有事没事</s>
<time>1141_00:38:42,402 --> 00:38:43,122</time>
<s>我就把这个东西拿出来写一遍</s>
<time>1142_00:38:43,842 --> 00:38:44,922</time>
<s>有事没事就拿出来写一遍</s>
<time>1143_00:38:45,642 --> 00:38:47,082</time>
<s>那个放血是不可持续的</s>
<time>1144_00:38:48,162 --> 00:38:49,962</time>
<s>我就觉得它是出疹子</s>
<time>1145_00:38:50,322 --> 00:38:51,402</time>
<s>就是人一定要出完一次</s>
<time>1146_00:38:52,482 --> 00:38:54,282</time>
<s>其实你让你的学生写作文</s>
<time>1147_00:38:54,642 --> 00:38:55,362</time>
<s>不就是帮他们出这个东西</s>
<time>1148_00:38:56,442 --> 00:38:59,322</time>
<s>情感和感受的疹子出一次</s>
<time>1149_00:39:00,042 --> 00:39:00,761</time>
<s>其实有时候</s>
<time>1150_00:39:01,122 --> 00:39:02,562</time>
<s>你让孩子彻底地释放一次</s>
<time>1151_00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:04,362</time>
<s>他就会彻底地长大一次</s>
<time>1152_00:39:05,802 --> 00:39:06,161</time>
<s>我真的觉得写作</s>
<time>1153_00:39:06,522 --> 00:39:07,962</time>
<s>对孩子的成长特别重要</s>
<time>1154_00:39:11,562 --> 00:39:11,922</time>
<s>不过话说回来</s>
<time>1155_00:39:12,282 --> 00:39:13,361</time>
<s>如果一个人没有一个契机</s>
<time>1156_00:39:13,721 --> 00:39:14,442</time>
<s>去回忆去分析</s>
<time>1157_00:39:14,801 --> 00:39:15,882</time>
<s>自己的成长要素</s>
<time>1158_00:39:16,242 --> 00:39:17,682</time>
<s>你可能觉得理所当然</s>
<time>1159_00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:19,842</time>
<s>但是你真的仔细去想的话</s>
<time>1160_00:39:20,202 --> 00:39:21,282</time>
<s>还是蛮难的</s>
<time>1161_00:39:21,642 --> 00:39:23,802</time>
<s>能旁观自已的生活是很难的</s>
<time>1162_00:39:25,602 --> 00:39:27,042</time>
<s>所以我觉得现在的教育</s>
<time>1163_00:39:27,402 --> 00:39:28,482</time>
<s>它最大的问题是什么呢</s>
<time>1164_00:39:29,201 --> 00:39:29,922</time>
<s>它拼命地去鼓吹</s>
<time>1165_00:39:30,281 --> 00:39:31,362</time>
<s>一种假装的东西</s>
<time>1166_00:39:31,721 --> 00:39:32,802</time>
<s>但是它就不教小孩观察</s>
<time>1167_00:39:33,162 --> 00:39:33,882</time>
<s>身边的东西</s>
<time>1168_00:39:34,602 --> 00:39:34,962</time>
<s>这很要命</s>
<time>1169_00:39:36,761 --> 00:39:38,202</time>
<s>尤其进到大学里面那些学生</s>
<time>1170_00:39:38,922 --> 00:39:40,722</time>
<s>你就觉得他们的生命被掏空了</s>
<time>1171_00:39:41,082 --> 00:39:42,521</time>
<s>就像一个空心人来到了你的身边</s>
<time>1172_00:39:42,882 --> 00:39:43,602</time>
<s>带着塑料的气味</s>
<time>1173_00:39:43,962 --> 00:39:45,402</time>
<s>和电子产品的气味</s>
<time>1174_00:39:45,762 --> 00:39:46,482</time>
<s>我真的就这种感觉</s>
<time>1175_00:39:47,202 --> 00:39:47,922</time>
<s>而且从小引导他的</s>
<time>1176_00:39:48,642 --> 00:39:49,362</time>
<s>就是单一化的（应试标准）</s>
<time>1177_00:39:50,802 --> 00:39:52,602</time>
<s>那个对人伤害特别大</s>
<time>1178_00:40:06,642 --> 00:40:08,082</time>
<s>这些房子都没变过</s>
<time>1179_00:40:08,442 --> 00:40:08,802</time>
<s>其实这一栋</s>
<time>1180_00:40:09,162 --> 00:40:10,242</time>
<s>是我们以前的教学楼</s>
<time>1181_00:40:10,602 --> 00:40:11,322</time>
<s>我上初中的教学楼</s>
<time>1182_00:40:11,682 --> 00:40:12,762</time>
<s>高峰期的时候</s>
<time>1183_00:40:13,482 --> 00:40:14,201</time>
<s>有二十一个班</s>
<time>1184_00:40:14,561 --> 00:40:15,642</time>
<s>超过一千个学生的</s>
<time>1185_00:40:16,002 --> 00:40:17,082</time>
<s>等于这是镇上最大的中学</s>
<time>1186_00:40:18,522 --> 00:40:19,602</time>
<s>镇上最大的中学了</s>
<time>1187_00:40:22,122 --> 00:40:23,201</time>
<s>很亲切吧</s>
<time>1188_00:40:23,562 --> 00:40:24,282</time>
<s>挺亲切的</s>
<time>1189_00:40:30,402 --> 00:40:31,482</time>
<s>拍我吗</s>
<time>1190_00:40:32,202 --> 00:40:33,642</time>
<s>为什么拍我呢</s>
<time>1191_00:40:34,002 --> 00:40:34,721</time>
<s>玩一下喽</s>
<time>1192_00:40:35,082 --> 00:40:35,442</time>
<s>老师你好啊</s>
<time>1193_00:40:38,322 --> 00:40:39,762</time>
<s>第三节河流</s>
<time>1194_00:40:40,122 --> 00:40:41,562</time>
<s>翻开教材</s>
<time>1195_00:40:46,242 --> 00:40:46,602</time>
<s>好玩儿</s>
<time>1196_00:40:46,962 --> 00:40:47,682</time>
<s>比你们小时候</s>
<time>1197_00:40:48,042 --> 00:40:49,482</time>
<s>乖还是不乖他们看着</s>
<time>1198_00:40:50,562 --> 00:40:51,281</time>
<s>难说</s>
<time>1199_00:40:52,722 --> 00:40:53,802</time>
<s>他们还是很天真</s>
<time>1200_00:40:54,522 --> 00:40:55,962</time>
<s>味道还是跟我们那时差不多</s>
<time>1201_00:40:58,122 --> 00:40:58,841</time>
<s>青春挡不住啊</s>
<time>1202_00:41:01,002 --> 00:41:02,082</time>
<s>有时候看到这些中学生</s>
<time>1203_00:41:02,442 --> 00:41:02,802</time>
<s>我就觉得</s>
<time>1204_00:41:03,162 --> 00:41:04,602</time>
<s>我们那个职业院校的孩子</s>
<time>1205_00:41:04,962 --> 00:41:06,402</time>
<s>很多就是从这里出去的</s>
<time>1206_00:41:07,482 --> 00:41:08,562</time>
<s>特别明显给人感觉</s>
<time>1207_00:41:09,642 --> 00:41:10,722</time>
<s>对这强调这个是吧</s>
<time>1208_00:41:13,602 --> 00:41:13,962</time>
<s>其实我觉得</s>
<time>1209_00:41:14,322 --> 00:41:15,402</time>
<s>个最需要解决的（问题）</s>
<time>1210_00:41:16,482 --> 00:41:17,201</time>
<s>那种情感</s>
<time>1211_00:41:18,281 --> 00:41:19,722</time>
<s>在整个成长过程中间</s>
<time>1212_00:41:20,082 --> 00:41:21,522</time>
<s>一个小孩的那种很敏感</s>
<time>1213_00:41:21,882 --> 00:41:22,962</time>
<s>很脆弱的情绪</s>
<time>1214_00:41:23,322 --> 00:41:24,402</time>
<s>他是特别需要呵护的</s>
<time>1215_00:41:25,482 --> 00:41:26,562</time>
<s>但是农村的孩子</s>
<time>1216_00:41:27,282 --> 00:41:28,002</time>
<s>长大的过程中间</s>
<time>1217_00:41:28,722 --> 00:41:29,802</time>
<s>心理这一块</s>
<time>1218_00:41:30,522 --> 00:41:31,962</time>
<s>情感和精神的需求</s>
<time>1219_00:41:32,322 --> 00:41:33,402</time>
<s>其实很多时候都是被忽视的</s>
<time>1220_00:41:34,842 --> 00:41:35,562</time>
<s>这个我觉得特别明显</s>
<time>1221_00:41:36,642 --> 00:41:38,082</time>
<s>比如说我印象中</s>
<time>1222_00:41:39,882 --> 00:41:40,962</time>
<s>有一些孩子谈恋爱</s>
<time>1223_00:41:41,322 --> 00:41:42,042</time>
<s>高中的时候</s>
<time>1224_00:41:43,122 --> 00:41:44,922</time>
<s>那整个学校的管理</s>
<time>1225_00:41:45,281 --> 00:41:45,642</time>
<s>就是一刀切</s>
<time>1226_00:41:46,362 --> 00:41:46,721</time>
<s>我印象很深刻</s>
<time>1227_00:41:47,082 --> 00:41:48,162</time>
<s>班上有个同学的妈妈</s>
<time>1228_00:41:49,242 --> 00:41:50,682</time>
<s>就直接就到教室里面来拿个东西</s>
<time>1229_00:41:51,402 --> 00:41:52,122</time>
<s>就把他的锁撬开了</s>
<time>1230_00:41:52,482 --> 00:41:53,561</time>
<s>就很粗暴</s>
<time>1231_00:41:53,922 --> 00:41:55,362</time>
<s>其实父母不是不爱我们</s>
<time>1232_00:41:55,722 --> 00:41:56,802</time>
<s>他们就是因为孩子多</s>
<time>1233_00:41:57,162 --> 00:41:57,522</time>
<s>事情多</s>
<time>1234_00:41:57,882 --> 00:41:58,602</time>
<s>家务多</s>
<time>1235_00:41:59,322 --> 00:42:00,762</time>
<s>然后要面对的麻烦事又多</s>
<time>1236_00:42:01,121 --> 00:42:02,562</time>
<s>他其实没有特别多的能力</s>
<time>1237_00:42:03,282 --> 00:42:04,002</time>
<s>来照顾你的情绪</s>
<time>1238_00:42:05,442 --> 00:42:07,602</time>
<s>但是这种从九十年代开始</s>
<time>1239_00:42:07,962 --> 00:42:09,402</time>
<s>就是外出打工的多了</s>
<time>1240_00:42:10,122 --> 00:42:11,202</time>
<s>尤其在大学里面教书了以后</s>
<time>1241_00:42:11,562 --> 00:42:12,642</time>
<s>我看到他们作文以后</s>
<time>1242_00:42:13,002 --> 00:42:14,082</time>
<s>我觉得有些甚至</s>
<time>1243_00:42:14,442 --> 00:42:15,522</time>
<s>还比不上我们那个时候</s>
<time>1244_00:42:16,241 --> 00:42:16,602</time>
<s>因为我们那个时候呢</s>
<time>1245_00:42:17,322 --> 00:42:19,122</time>
<s>虽然说父母不会管得特别多</s>
<time>1246_00:42:19,482 --> 00:42:20,201</time>
<s>但事实上</s>
<time>1247_00:42:20,922 --> 00:42:22,002</time>
<s>你还是有安全感的</s>
<time>1248_00:42:22,362 --> 00:42:23,802</time>
<s>首先你生存没有太多问题</s>
<time>1249_00:42:24,522 --> 00:42:25,241</time>
<s>爸爸妈妈又在身边</s>
<time>1250_00:42:25,602 --> 00:42:26,322</time>
<s>或者爷爷奶奶</s>
<time>1251_00:42:27,042 --> 00:42:28,122</time>
<s>你不会觉得要跟他们</s>
<time>1252_00:42:28,482 --> 00:42:29,562</time>
<s>长久的分开</s>
<time>1253_00:42:30,282 --> 00:42:31,362</time>
<s>这个其实也很重要</s>
<time>1254_00:42:31,721 --> 00:42:33,162</time>
<s>现在很多小孩都觉得是孤立</s>
<time>1255_00:42:33,882 --> 00:42:34,962</time>
<s>自己完全孤立地成长起来</s>
<time>1256_00:42:35,322 --> 00:42:35,682</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>1257_00:42:36,402 --> 00:42:37,122</time>
<s>有一个小孩的作文</s>
<time>1258_00:42:37,842 --> 00:42:38,562</time>
<s>我记得很深</s>
<time>1259_00:42:38,922 --> 00:42:40,362</time>
<s>他说我就是一个人长大的</s>
<time>1260_00:42:41,442 --> 00:42:41,802</time>
<s>他就这样写的</s>
<time>1261_00:42:42,162 --> 00:42:43,602</time>
<s>他说我就是一个人长大的</s>
<time>1262_00:42:44,322 --> 00:42:45,402</time>
<s>我记得上次在深圳</s>
<time>1263_00:42:45,762 --> 00:42:46,842</time>
<s>我看那个学生</s>
<time>1264_00:42:47,201 --> 00:42:48,642</time>
<s>讲自己一个人骑摩托车很快</s>
<time>1265_00:42:50,082 --> 00:42:50,442</time>
<s>他有点</s>
<time>1266_00:42:51,882 --> 00:42:52,242</time>
<s>他也不知道怎么面对</s>
<time>1267_00:42:52,962 --> 00:42:53,322</time>
<s>对待自己的生命</s>
<time>1268_00:42:53,682 --> 00:42:54,041</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>1269_00:42:55,122 --> 00:42:55,842</time>
<s>他们就是在最敏感</s>
<time>1270_00:42:56,202 --> 00:42:56,562</time>
<s>最脆弱的时候</s>
<time>1271_00:42:56,922 --> 00:42:57,282</time>
<s>父母都不在身边</s>
<time>1272_00:42:57,642 --> 00:42:58,002</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>1273_00:42:58,722 --> 00:42:59,442</time>
<s>其实就是这个问题</s>
<time>1274_00:43:00,522 --> 00:43:01,962</time>
<s>我们大人看着提心吊胆</s>
<time>1275_00:43:02,682 --> 00:43:04,122</time>
<s>但是他就这样处理</s>
<time>1276_00:43:04,842 --> 00:43:05,922</time>
<s>而且他觉得理所当然</s>
<time>1277_00:43:06,642 --> 00:43:08,442</time>
<s>而且也没有父母去管这些事情</s>
<time>1278_00:43:22,122 --> 00:43:23,201</time>
<s>这里凉快些</s>
<time>1279_00:43:24,642 --> 00:43:25,002</time>
<s>杨亮</s>
<time>1280_00:43:26,082 --> 00:43:27,522</time>
<s>这是我同学</s>
<time>1281_00:43:27,882 --> 00:43:28,242</time>
<s>也是你同学啊</s>
<time>1282_00:43:30,042 --> 00:43:30,761</time>
<s>初中四十六班的</s>
<time>1283_00:43:31,842 --> 00:43:33,281</time>
<s>然后您现在在这里教书是吗</s>
<time>1284_00:43:33,642 --> 00:43:34,722</time>
<s>一直在这里教书</s>
<time>1285_00:43:35,082 --> 00:43:36,522</time>
<s>他大学毕业就在这里教书</s>
<time>1286_00:43:37,602 --> 00:43:38,682</time>
<s>现在学校有多少人</s>
<time>1287_00:43:39,402 --> 00:43:39,761</time>
<s>五百人左右</s>
<time>1288_00:43:41,201 --> 00:43:42,282</time>
<s>比高峰时期少了一半了</s>
<time>1289_00:43:42,642 --> 00:43:43,362</time>
<s>进来进来</s>
<time>1290_00:43:44,802 --> 00:43:46,242</time>
<s>这是我初中同学</s>
<time>1291_00:43:46,602 --> 00:43:46,962</time>
<s>这是许老师</s>
<time>1292_00:43:47,322 --> 00:43:48,042</time>
<s>坐</s>
<time>1293_00:43:48,762 --> 00:43:50,922</time>
<s>我们三个接受面试</s>
<time>1294_00:43:52,362 --> 00:43:53,802</time>
<s>现在的小孩子跟你们小时候</s>
<time>1295_00:43:54,161 --> 00:43:55,241</time>
<s>差别是不是很大</s>
<time>1296_00:43:55,602 --> 00:43:56,682</time>
<s>你们现在教那些小孩子</s>
<time>1297_00:43:57,402 --> 00:43:57,762</time>
<s>那差别大呀</s>
<time>1298_00:43:58,842 --> 00:43:59,562</time>
<s>反正他们现在</s>
<time>1299_00:43:59,922 --> 00:44:01,002</time>
<s>因为可能比较舒服</s>
<time>1300_00:44:01,361 --> 00:44:02,802</time>
<s>没有什么太长远的规划</s>
<time>1301_00:44:03,161 --> 00:44:03,882</time>
<s>反正就是混着</s>
<time>1302_00:44:04,241 --> 00:44:06,402</time>
<s>我能够混到一个高中很好</s>
<time>1303_00:44:06,762 --> 00:44:08,201</time>
<s>我混不了就读个职高</s>
<time>1304_00:44:08,922 --> 00:44:09,642</time>
<s>对他们是这么想的</s>
<time>1305_00:44:10,002 --> 00:44:10,362</time>
<s>也没人管</s>
<time>1306_00:44:10,721 --> 00:44:11,442</time>
<s>所以现在的手机</s>
<time>1307_00:44:11,802 --> 00:44:12,522</time>
<s>小孩子玩手机什么东西的</s>
<time>1308_00:44:12,882 --> 00:44:13,602</time>
<s>就玩得特别多</s>
<time>1309_00:44:15,042 --> 00:44:16,122</time>
<s>因为他父母就是在外面打工</s>
