<time>442_00:18:28,842 --> 00:18:30,281</time>
<s>有一些看待事物</s>
<time>443_00:18:30,642 --> 00:18:32,442</time>
<s>都从不同的维度去解决问题</s>
<time>444_00:18:32,801 --> 00:18:33,522</time>
<s>那西医它就是说</s>
<time>445_00:18:33,882 --> 00:18:34,962</time>
<s>你这个质量出问题了</s>
<time>446_00:18:35,322 --> 00:18:36,402</time>
<s>长了东西我就给你割了</s>
<time>447_00:18:36,762 --> 00:18:38,922</time>
<s>你这个信息就反映你健康了</s>
<time>448_00:18:39,282 --> 00:18:41,081</time>
<s>中医就是我先给你个好信息</s>
<time>449_00:18:42,162 --> 00:18:42,882</time>
<s>扎针没事</s>
<time>450_00:18:44,322 --> 00:18:46,842</time>
<s>通过信息反过来影响你这个</s>
<time>451_00:18:47,202 --> 00:18:48,642</time>
<s>那到底哪个层面是对的</s>
<time>452_00:18:49,362 --> 00:18:50,082</time>
<s>它就是那么事物的</s>
<time>453_00:18:50,442 --> 00:18:51,522</time>
<s>几个维度而已</s>
<time>454_00:18:51,882 --> 00:18:52,962</time>
<s>今天我们把这个信息</s>
<time>455_00:18:53,321 --> 00:18:53,682</time>
<s>这个维度给</s>
<time>456_00:18:54,762 --> 00:18:55,482</time>
<s>解放了</s>
<time>457_00:18:55,842 --> 00:18:57,642</time>
<s>大家就更多地去关注</s>
<time>458_00:18:58,002 --> 00:18:59,442</time>
<s>比较突出的这个维度面</s>
<time>459_00:19:00,162 --> 00:19:02,322</time>
<s>通过镜头怎么来表达</s>
<time>460_00:19:03,042 --> 00:19:04,482</time>
<s>镜头本身就是信息</s>
<time>461_00:19:05,202 --> 00:19:07,361</time>
<s>它就是新的文字和印刷术</s>
<time>462_00:19:07,722 --> 00:19:08,442</time>
<s>它肯定不仅仅局限于</s>
<time>463_00:19:08,802 --> 00:19:09,522</time>
<s>讲一个故事</s>
<time>464_00:19:09,882 --> 00:19:10,962</time>
<s>就像今天我们</s>
<time>465_00:19:11,322 --> 00:19:13,121</time>
<s>看到有更多的像</s>
<time>466_00:19:13,482 --> 00:19:13,842</time>
<s>短视频等等</s>
<time>467_00:19:14,202 --> 00:19:15,282</time>
<s>这种信息解放的能力</s>
<time>468_00:19:15,642 --> 00:19:17,442</time>
<s>更大价值其实是教育</s>
<time>469_00:19:17,802 --> 00:19:20,322</time>
<s>大大解放知识的学习成本</s>
<time>470_00:19:20,682 --> 00:19:22,482</time>
<s>一定程度上降低语言门槛</s>
<time>471_00:19:22,842 --> 00:19:23,922</time>
<s>就是说的巴别塔的那个界限</s>
<time>472_00:19:24,282 --> 00:19:25,361</time>
<s>其实就慢慢消失了</s>
<time>473_00:19:26,082 --> 00:19:26,802</time>
<s>我觉得可能我们马上</s>
<time>474_00:19:27,162 --> 00:19:28,602</time>
<s>站在一个奇点前面</s>
<time>475_00:19:29,322 --> 00:19:29,682</time>
<s>就是当你</s>
<time>476_00:19:30,762 --> 00:19:31,842</time>
<s>当我们这么方便地</s>
<time>477_00:19:32,202 --> 00:19:32,922</time>
<s>传递知识的时候</s>
<time>478_00:19:33,282 --> 00:19:34,002</time>
<s>那我们可能过去</s>
<time>479_00:19:34,362 --> 00:19:35,802</time>
<s>只有一个爱因斯坦或者</s>
<time>480_00:19:36,882 --> 00:19:37,601</time>
<s>霍金</s>
<time>481_00:19:39,042 --> 00:19:40,121</time>
<s>现在可能会出现十个</s>
<time>482_00:19:41,562 --> 00:19:43,002</time>
<s>理解事情的门槛变低了</s>
<time>483_00:19:45,882 --> 00:19:46,962</time>
<s>也有可能一个都出不了啊</s>
<time>484_00:19:54,162 --> 00:19:54,882</time>
<s>但是宁浩就是</s>
<time>485_00:19:55,242 --> 00:19:56,682</time>
<s>我坦白说就是</s>
<time>486_00:19:57,042 --> 00:19:58,122</time>
<s>因为你对时代很敏感嘛</s>
<time>487_00:19:58,482 --> 00:19:59,922</time>
<s>你看你之前拍的</s>
<time>488_00:20:00,282 --> 00:20:00,642</time>
<s>疯狂系列也好</s>
<time>489_00:20:01,002 --> 00:20:01,361</time>
<s>别的不同的系列</s>
<time>490_00:20:01,722 --> 00:20:03,522</time>
<s>你看到人在那很大的</s>
<time>491_00:20:03,882 --> 00:20:04,602</time>
<s>社会转型之中那种</s>
<time>492_00:20:04,962 --> 00:20:05,682</time>
<s>不适应吧</s>
<time>493_00:20:06,042 --> 00:20:07,121</time>
<s>或者说无法安放</s>
<time>494_00:20:07,482 --> 00:20:07,842</time>
<s>无法归类</s>
<time>495_00:20:08,202 --> 00:20:08,561</time>
<s>昨天我还看那个文章</s>
<time>496_00:20:08,922 --> 00:20:09,641</time>
<s>我觉得很好奇</s>
<time>497_00:20:10,002 --> 00:20:11,442</time>
<s>送外卖的</s>
<time>498_00:20:11,802 --> 00:20:13,242</time>
<s>在巨大的算法里面</s>
<time>499_00:20:13,602 --> 00:20:14,322</time>
<s>他必须要什么时候能</s>
<time>500_00:20:14,682 --> 00:20:15,042</time>
<s>抵达那个地方</s>
<time>501_00:20:15,401 --> 00:20:17,202</time>
<s>其实人面对一个非常抽象的</s>
<time>502_00:20:17,562 --> 00:20:19,722</time>
<s>庞大数据系统的困惑</s>
<time>503_00:20:20,082 --> 00:20:21,162</time>
<s>他要非常的有效率</s>
<time>504_00:20:21,522 --> 00:20:23,322</time>
<s>然后非常被它所控制</s>
<time>505_00:20:24,042 --> 00:20:24,762</time>
<s>而个人它又缺乏</s>
<time>506_00:20:25,121 --> 00:20:26,202</time>
<s>自已的组织来应对</s>
<time>507_00:20:26,562 --> 00:20:27,642</time>
<s>对自己的控制嘛</s>
<time>508_00:20:28,002 --> 00:20:29,802</time>
<s>因为你个人很孤立</s>
<time>509_00:20:30,882 --> 00:20:31,602</time>
<s>作为一个创作者</s>
<time>510_00:20:31,962 --> 00:20:33,762</time>
<s>怎么去应对里面的</s>
<time>511_00:20:34,121 --> 00:20:34,842</time>
<s>新的焦虑</s>
<time>512_00:20:35,202 --> 00:20:35,922</time>
<s>或者是新的不安</s>
<time>513_00:20:36,282 --> 00:20:37,002</time>
<s>新的困惑</s>
<time>514_00:20:38,082 --> 00:20:39,522</time>
<s>其实我的感觉是两个点</s>
<time>515_00:20:40,962 --> 00:20:43,121</time>
<s>你的一个点是从人的视角出发</s>
<time>516_00:20:44,202 --> 00:20:45,282</time>
<s>每一个人都在受着这种</s>
<time>517_00:20:45,642 --> 00:20:48,522</time>
<s>掌上智能设备的干扰和影响</s>
<time>518_00:20:48,882 --> 00:20:49,962</time>
<s>曾经见过那个马路边上</s>
<time>519_00:20:51,042 --> 00:20:52,482</time>
<s>不按规定过马路</s>
<time>520_00:20:52,842 --> 00:20:55,002</time>
<s>然后立刻就拍一张照片</s>
<time>521_00:20:56,081 --> 00:20:57,162</time>
<s>我觉得这个太厉害了</s>
<time>522_00:20:58,242 --> 00:20:59,322</time>
<s>技术已经到这个程度上了</s>
<time>523_00:20:59,682 --> 00:21:00,402</time>
<s>太厉害了</s>
<time>524_00:21:00,762 --> 00:21:02,562</time>
<s>那它一定在这个层面</s>
<time>525_00:21:04,002 --> 00:21:04,722</time>
<s>它逼近了你</s>
<time>526_00:21:05,082 --> 00:21:05,802</time>
<s>这是一个维度</s>
<time>527_00:21:06,522 --> 00:21:07,962</time>
<s>我是从另外一个维度</s>
<time>528_00:21:08,322 --> 00:21:09,762</time>
<s>从全世界的范围</s>
<time>529_00:21:10,122 --> 00:21:11,562</time>
<s>越各自站在各自的角度去</s>
<time>530_00:21:11,922 --> 00:21:13,361</time>
<s>谈问题</s>
<time>531_00:21:13,722 --> 00:21:14,082</time>
<s>每一个人都会有</s>
<time>532_00:21:14,442 --> 00:21:15,882</time>
<s>形成自己的一个圈子</s>
<time>533_00:21:16,242 --> 00:21:17,682</time>
<s>比方说我们会有马上会有一个</s>
<time>534_00:21:18,042 --> 00:21:19,842</time>
<s>保护环境的一个圈子</s>
<time>535_00:21:20,202 --> 00:21:21,282</time>
<s>我们会发出我们的声音</s>
<time>536_00:21:21,641 --> 00:21:22,722</time>
<s>生活的一个生活的圈子</s>
<time>537_00:21:23,082 --> 00:21:24,161</time>
<s>我们会发出我们的声音</s>
<time>538_00:21:24,522 --> 00:21:25,602</time>
<s>那这是从整个社会的</s>
<time>539_00:21:25,962 --> 00:21:27,042</time>
<s>这个角度去看待</s>
<time>540_00:21:27,402 --> 00:21:29,562</time>
<s>大家发声途径的便利</s>
<time>541_00:21:29,922 --> 00:21:31,362</time>
<s>以及找到</s>
<time>542_00:21:32,802 --> 00:21:33,522</time>
<s>伙伴的便利</s>
<time>543_00:21:36,761 --> 00:21:37,122</time>
<s>或者说</s>
<time>544_00:21:38,202 --> 00:21:39,282</time>
<s>这个你说当然</s>
<time>545_00:21:39,642 --> 00:21:40,362</time>
<s>我觉得从人的考量</s>
<time>546_00:21:40,722 --> 00:21:41,802</time>
<s>是我一个很大的出发点</s>
<time>547_00:21:42,162 --> 00:21:42,882</time>
<s>我喜欢你的那些东西</s>
<time>548_00:21:43,242 --> 00:21:43,601</time>
<s>是因为我觉得</s>
<time>549_00:21:43,962 --> 00:21:45,401</time>
<s>他们在一个高度受限的情况下</s>
<time>550_00:21:45,762 --> 00:21:46,842</time>
<s>仍然去寻找</s>
<time>551_00:21:47,202 --> 00:21:47,922</time>
<s>某种个人的自由</s>
<time>552_00:21:48,282 --> 00:21:48,641</time>
<s>和存在的意义</s>
<time>553_00:21:49,002 --> 00:21:50,442</time>
<s>这是很大的一个驱动力</s>
<time>554_00:21:50,802 --> 00:21:52,602</time>
<s>你看我那么被那个《香火》</s>
<time>555_00:21:52,962 --> 00:21:53,322</time>
<s>小和尚感动</s>
<time>556_00:21:53,682 --> 00:21:55,482</time>
<s>他始终寻找这么一个东西</s>
<time>557_00:21:55,842 --> 00:21:56,562</time>
<s>不管这个环境怎么变化</s>
<time>558_00:21:56,922 --> 00:21:57,282</time>
<s>或者怎么样</s>
<time>559_00:21:58,361 --> 00:22:00,522</time>
<s>你自己原生的这种驱动力</s>
<time>560_00:22:00,882 --> 00:22:01,601</time>
<s>你觉得在</s>
<time>561_00:22:01,962 --> 00:22:03,042</time>
<s>还是那个吗</s>
<time>562_00:22:03,762 --> 00:22:05,202</time>
<s>还是说在发生变化</s>
<time>563_00:22:05,922 --> 00:22:06,282</time>
<s>其实</s>
<time>564_00:22:07,362 --> 00:22:08,082</time>
<s>从我</s>
<time>565_00:22:08,442 --> 00:22:10,962</time>
<s>从我个人创作的一个习惯来说</s>
<time>566_00:22:11,322 --> 00:22:13,481</time>
<s>我一直会关心两个字</s>
<time>567_00:22:13,842 --> 00:22:14,922</time>
<s>就是处境</s>
<time>568_00:22:16,002 --> 00:22:16,722</time>
<s>人的处境</s>
<time>569_00:22:17,082 --> 00:22:18,161</time>
<s>在每一个</s>
<time>570_00:22:19,242 --> 00:22:21,042</time>
<s>历史阶段和时间内</s>
<time>571_00:22:21,402 --> 00:22:22,121</time>
<s>它是不一样的</s>
<time>572_00:22:22,481 --> 00:22:23,922</time>
<s>会发生着各种各样的微妙变化</s>
<time>573_00:22:25,361 --> 00:22:26,801</time>
<s>但是艺术是有局限性的</s>
<time>574_00:22:27,522 --> 00:22:27,882</time>
<s>我只能站在</s>
<time>575_00:22:28,242 --> 00:22:30,402</time>
<s>我的视角去看待这个问题</s>
<time>576_00:22:30,762 --> 00:22:32,202</time>
<s>那你现在的处境是什么</s>
<time>577_00:22:32,561 --> 00:22:33,641</time>
<s>怎么描述你现在的这个处境</s>
<time>578_00:22:36,882 --> 00:22:38,322</time>
<s>我觉得是在看自己嘛</s>
<time>579_00:22:39,762 --> 00:22:41,922</time>
<s>我也能感知到就是</s>
<time>580_00:22:42,282 --> 00:22:45,162</time>
<s>整个社会在有一个巨大的</s>
<time>581_00:22:45,522 --> 00:22:47,682</time>
<s>调整的一个阶段</s>
<time>582_00:22:48,402 --> 00:22:50,562</time>
<s>根源上是因为技术上面的</s>
<time>583_00:22:50,922 --> 00:22:52,002</time>
<s>向前发展</s>
<time>584_00:22:52,362 --> 00:22:54,882</time>
<s>然后要触动很多的层面</s>
<time>585_00:22:55,242 --> 00:22:56,682</time>
<s>所以从我的出发点来说</s>
<time>586_00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:57,762</time>
<s>我想</s>
<time>587_00:22:58,842 --> 00:23:00,642</time>
<s>我现在所关注的就是</s>
<time>588_00:23:01,362 --> 00:23:02,442</time>
<s>所谓我们过去</s>
<time>589_00:23:02,802 --> 00:23:04,242</time>
<s>总谈到的某一些标准</s>
<time>590_00:23:04,962 --> 00:23:06,402</time>
<s>和今天现实的这个关系</s>
<time>591_00:23:07,122 --> 00:23:08,202</time>
<s>这个事情现在还是</s>
<time>592_00:23:08,561 --> 00:23:08,922</time>
<s>今天这个时代的</s>
<time>593_00:23:09,282 --> 00:23:10,722</time>
<s>一个真的标准吗</s>
<time>594_00:23:11,802 --> 00:23:12,522</time>
<s>处在今天的这个时代</s>
<time>595_00:23:12,882 --> 00:23:14,682</time>
<s>还是适用的吗</s>
<time>596_00:23:16,122 --> 00:23:16,482</time>
<s>因为今天是一个</s>
<time>597_00:23:16,842 --> 00:23:17,922</time>
<s>多标准时代</s>
<time>598_00:23:19,002 --> 00:23:21,522</time>
<s>十年前的命题处之于今天</s>
<time>599_00:23:22,602 --> 00:23:23,322</time>
<s>还是不是通用的</s>
<time>600_00:23:25,122 --> 00:23:25,482</time>
<s>还是不是正确的</s>
<time>601_00:23:26,562 --> 00:23:28,361</time>
<s>要去反观和问这个问题</s>
<time>602_00:23:29,082 --> 00:23:30,162</time>
<s>在这个基础上才能有</s>
<time>603_00:23:30,522 --> 00:23:31,601</time>
<s>那到底什么是正确的</s>
<time>604_00:23:33,042 --> 00:23:33,762</time>
<s>那这个东西要</s>
<time>605_00:23:34,122 --> 00:23:34,842</time>
<s>作用在你自己身上呢</s>
<time>606_00:23:35,202 --> 00:23:35,922</time>
<s>比如说你十年前</s>
<time>607_00:23:36,282 --> 00:23:37,002</time>
<s>十五年前</s>
<time>608_00:23:37,362 --> 00:23:38,082</time>
<s>坚信的那些价值</s>
<time>609_00:23:39,161 --> 00:23:39,882</time>
<s>到底是什么呢</s>
<time>610_00:23:58,242 --> 00:24:00,042</time>
<s>我那时候是18岁</s>
<time>611_00:24:00,402 --> 00:24:01,482</time>
<s>19岁就是</s>
<time>612_00:24:01,842 --> 00:24:02,202</time>
<s>中专毕业</s>
<time>613_00:24:02,561 --> 00:24:03,282</time>
<s>分配到了</s>
<time>614_00:24:03,641 --> 00:24:04,722</time>
<s>太钢（太原钢铁集团）电视台</s>
<time>615_00:24:05,442 --> 00:24:07,601</time>
<s>我就带着那个档案袋去</s>
<time>616_00:24:07,962 --> 00:24:08,682</time>
<s>我在那个电视台里头</s>
<time>617_00:24:09,042 --> 00:24:09,402</time>
<s>转了一圈</s>
<time>618_00:24:10,482 --> 00:24:11,562</time>
<s>我突然看到了一个</s>
<time>619_00:24:11,922 --> 00:24:13,002</time>
<s>我很熟悉的场景</s>
<time>620_00:24:13,722 --> 00:24:14,802</time>
<s>有两个中年人在那个</s>
<time>621_00:24:15,882 --> 00:24:16,242</time>
<s>屋里头打那个</s>
<time>622_00:24:16,602 --> 00:24:17,322</time>
<s>克朗棋</s>
<time>623_00:24:18,402 --> 00:24:18,762</time>
<s>我记得</s>
<time>624_00:24:19,122 --> 00:24:19,842</time>
<s>我记得小时候都玩嘛</s>
<time>625_00:24:20,562 --> 00:24:21,282</time>
<s>哎哟那个</s>
<time>626_00:24:21,642 --> 00:24:23,441</time>
<s>气氛让我觉得特别的</s>
<time>627_00:24:24,522 --> 00:24:25,602</time>
<s>恐惧</s>
<time>628_00:24:26,322 --> 00:24:27,402</time>
<s>因为我从小就跟着</s>
<time>629_00:24:27,762 --> 00:24:28,842</time>
<s>我妈妈去厂里上班(玩)</s>
<time>630_00:24:29,202 --> 00:24:30,281</time>
<s>就她们厂里</s>
<time>631_00:24:30,642 --> 00:24:31,362</time>
<s>就百无聊赖地去那儿</s>
<time>632_00:24:31,722 --> 00:24:32,082</time>
<s>打那个克朗棋</s>
<time>633_00:24:32,442 --> 00:24:33,882</time>
<s>我觉得人生要是天天</s>
<time>634_00:24:34,242 --> 00:24:34,962</time>
<s>打克朗棋</s>
<time>635_00:24:35,682 --> 00:24:36,402</time>
<s>我觉得我</s>
<time>636_00:24:36,762 --> 00:24:37,482</time>
<s>我觉得我实在是受不了</s>
<time>637_00:24:37,842 --> 00:24:38,922</time>
<s>就你在那基本看到了晚年生活</s>
<time>638_00:24:41,082 --> 00:24:41,442</time>
<s>然后我绕了一圈</s>
<time>639_00:24:41,802 --> 00:24:42,522</time>
<s>我就出去了</s>
<time>640_00:24:43,601 --> 00:24:45,042</time>
<s>出去坐在那个电视台门口</s>
<time>641_00:24:45,401 --> 00:24:46,122</time>
<s>想半天</s>
<time>642_00:24:47,202 --> 00:24:47,922</time>
<s>我就突然开始对那个</s>
<time>643_00:24:48,282 --> 00:24:49,361</time>
<s>档案好奇了</s>
<time>644_00:24:50,442 --> 00:24:51,162</time>
<s>因为那个档案呢</s>
<time>645_00:24:51,522 --> 00:24:52,242</time>
<s>是</s>
<time>646_00:24:52,602 --> 00:24:53,682</time>
<s>大家从小那个老师</s>
<time>647_00:24:54,402 --> 00:24:55,122</time>
<s>写档案里面</s>
<time>648_00:24:55,482 --> 00:24:55,842</time>
<s>你犯什么坏事</s>
<time>649_00:24:56,202 --> 00:24:57,282</time>
<s>我就给你写在档案里</s>
<time>650_00:24:57,642 --> 00:24:58,362</time>
<s>你档案里就有污点了</s>
<time>651_00:24:58,722 --> 00:24:59,082</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>652_00:24:59,442 --> 00:25:00,162</time>
<s>完了我就老在那儿想着</s>
<time>653_00:25:00,522 --> 00:25:01,242</time>
<s>我的档案里得有</s>
<time>654_00:25:01,602 --> 00:25:02,682</time>
<s>多少污点啊</s>
<time>655_00:25:03,402 --> 00:25:04,122</time>
<s>得多脏</s>
<time>656_00:25:05,562 --> 00:25:06,282</time>
<s>然后</s>
<time>657_00:25:07,002 --> 00:25:07,722</time>
<s>我就把那个档案给拆开了</s>
<time>658_00:25:09,882 --> 00:25:10,242</time>
<s>拆开一看里头</s>
<time>659_00:25:10,602 --> 00:25:11,322</time>
<s>什么都没写</s>
<time>660_00:25:12,402 --> 00:25:13,122</time>
<s>就一张</s>
<time>661_00:25:14,202 --> 00:25:14,922</time>
<s>我的成绩单</s>
<time>662_00:25:17,082 --> 00:25:17,802</time>
<s>我当时就觉得人生吧</s>
<time>663_00:25:18,162 --> 00:25:19,242</time>
<s>就特别的</s>
<time>664_00:25:20,322 --> 00:25:21,042</time>
<s>被骗了</s>
<time>665_00:25:22,842 --> 00:25:23,922</time>
<s>那些恐惧白恐惧了</s>
<time>666_00:25:24,282 --> 00:25:25,362</time>
<s>恐惧了好多年</s>
<time>667_00:25:26,802 --> 00:25:27,162</time>
<s>你说档案里头</s>
<time>668_00:25:27,522 --> 00:25:28,602</time>
<s>不知道什么东西</s>
<time>669_00:25:29,322 --> 00:25:31,122</time>
<s>我当时都记得那一个瞬间</s>
<time>670_00:25:31,482 --> 00:25:32,922</time>
<s>我突然觉得这个人生可以</s>
<time>671_00:25:34,362 --> 00:25:35,082</time>
<s>可以按我想的</s>
<time>672_00:25:36,162 --> 00:25:38,322</time>
<s>想的方式去走</s>
<time>673_00:25:38,682 --> 00:25:39,762</time>
<s>特别主宰自己命运的感觉</s>
<time>674_00:25:40,122 --> 00:25:41,202</time>
<s>然后我就</s>
<time>675_00:25:41,562 --> 00:25:42,642</time>
<s>就来北京了</s>
<time>676_00:25:43,002 --> 00:25:45,162</time>
<s>那个时候来北京也没什么目标</s>
<time>677_00:25:45,522 --> 00:25:47,682</time>
<s>就是决定晃一晃</s>
<time>678_00:25:48,762 --> 00:25:49,482</time>
<s>你一站到</s>
<time>679_00:25:49,842 --> 00:25:51,282</time>
<s>我记得当时我站在那个</s>
<time>680_00:25:52,722 --> 00:25:53,802</time>
<s>朝阳门桥</s>
<time>681_00:25:54,522 --> 00:25:54,882</time>
<s>桥上</s>
<time>682_00:25:55,602 --> 00:25:57,762</time>
<s>看着底下两边的胡同</s>
<time>683_00:25:58,122 --> 00:25:58,842</time>
<s>那个瓦房</s>
<time>684_00:25:59,922 --> 00:26:01,002</time>
<s>天上飞着鸽子</s>
<time>685_00:26:03,162 --> 00:26:04,242</time>
<s>就是特别美</s>
<time>686_00:26:04,602 --> 00:26:04,962</time>
<s>然后那几年</s>
<time>687_00:26:05,322 --> 00:26:06,042</time>
<s>什么也敢弄</s>
<time>688_00:26:06,402 --> 00:26:07,482</time>
<s>什么也敢招呼</s>
<time>689_00:26:08,562 --> 00:26:10,362</time>
<s>我们屋里有一个</s>
<time>690_00:26:10,722 --> 00:26:12,162</time>
<s>小孩是拍照片的</s>
<time>691_00:26:12,522 --> 00:26:13,602</time>
<s>我就跟着他学</s>
<time>692_00:26:13,962 --> 00:26:15,402</time>
<s>就床底下洗照片</s>
<time>693_00:26:16,482 --> 00:26:17,922</time>
<s>学七八个(胶)卷</s>
<time>694_00:26:18,282 --> 00:26:19,722</time>
<s>就出去挣钱去了</s>
<time>695_00:26:20,082 --> 00:26:20,442</time>
<s>一百块钱一个(胶)卷</s>
<time>696_00:26:20,802 --> 00:26:21,162</time>
<s>特便宜</s>
<time>697_00:26:21,522 --> 00:26:22,242</time>
<s>因为要得便宜</s>
<time>698_00:26:22,602 --> 00:26:22,962</time>
<s>也行</s>
<time>699_00:26:23,322 --> 00:26:24,042</time>
<s>也有人找你拍</s>
<time>700_00:26:25,122 --> 00:26:25,842</time>
<s>后来就</s>
<time>701_00:26:26,202 --> 00:26:28,002</time>
<s>碰到像刘义军</s>
<time>702_00:26:28,722 --> 00:26:29,442</time>
<s>能见到唐朝(唐朝乐队)的人</s>
<time>703_00:26:29,802 --> 00:26:30,882</time>
<s>那应该很激动啊那种</s>
<time>704_00:26:31,602 --> 00:26:32,322</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>705_00:26:32,682 --> 00:26:33,042</time>
<s>绝对偶像</s>
<time>706_00:26:33,402 --> 00:26:35,202</time>
<s>那个时候当时一听说</s>
<time>707_00:26:35,562 --> 00:26:37,002</time>
<s>我一哥们儿说跟刘义军吃饭</s>
<time>708_00:26:37,362 --> 00:26:38,082</time>
<s>我就记得当时说</s>
<time>709_00:26:38,442 --> 00:26:39,882</time>
<s>在电影学院的斜对面</s>
<time>710_00:26:40,242 --> 00:26:41,682</time>
<s>他就问我你是干嘛的</s>
<time>711_00:26:42,042 --> 00:26:43,482</time>
<s>我说我是</s>
<time>712_00:26:43,842 --> 00:26:44,562</time>
<s>拍照的</s>
<time>713_00:26:44,922 --> 00:26:45,282</time>
<s>得找个身份</s>
<time>714_00:26:47,082 --> 00:26:48,162</time>
<s>聊一会儿我就觉得</s>
<time>715_00:26:48,882 --> 00:26:49,602</time>
<s>我得给他拍两张</s>
<time>716_00:26:50,682 --> 00:26:51,402</time>
<s>我就跑到马路边上去</s>
<time>717_00:26:51,762 --> 00:26:52,122</time>
<s>买了一个</s>
<time>718_00:26:52,482 --> 00:26:54,642</time>
<s>三十几块钱一次性照相机</s>
<time>719_00:26:55,362 --> 00:26:56,082</time>
<s>然后我就出来</s>
<time>720_00:26:56,442 --> 00:26:57,162</time>
<s>我说五哥（刘义军）</s>
<time>721_00:26:57,522 --> 00:26:58,602</time>
<s>我能给你拍张照片吗</s>
<time>722_00:26:58,962 --> 00:26:59,322</time>
<s>他说行</s>
<time>723_00:26:59,682 --> 00:27:01,122</time>
<s>我说不耽误你</s>
<time>724_00:27:01,482 --> 00:27:02,562</time>
<s>你就在门口</s>
<time>725_00:27:02,922 --> 00:27:03,642</time>
<s>我在门口里啪啦地（拍）</s>
<time>726_00:27:04,002 --> 00:27:04,362</time>
<s>人家也没空</s>
<time>727_00:27:04,722 --> 00:27:05,802</time>
<s>叽哩咪哪地赶紧拍完</s>
<time>728_00:27:06,162 --> 00:27:07,242</time>
<s>洗出来觉得</s>
<time>729_00:27:07,602 --> 00:27:07,962</time>
<s>哎哟真难看</s>
<time>730_00:27:09,402 --> 00:27:10,482</time>
<s>我说这个怎么弄</s>
<time>731_00:27:11,562 --> 00:27:12,642</time>
<s>我说我回趟老家</s>
<time>732_00:27:13,362 --> 00:27:14,442</time>
<s>回老家就找着我一哥们儿</s>
<time>733_00:27:14,802 --> 00:27:15,162</time>
<s>他是当时</s>
<time>734_00:27:15,522 --> 00:27:16,962</time>
<s>第一代玩那个电脑</s>
<time>735_00:27:17,322 --> 00:27:18,402</time>
<s>修图软件</s>
<time>736_00:27:18,762 --> 00:27:19,122</time>
<s>挑了几张照片</s>
<time>737_00:27:19,482 --> 00:27:20,922</time>
<s>然后把那个照片重新画下来</s>
<time>738_00:27:22,362 --> 00:27:23,082</time>
<s>换背景什么的</s>
<time>739_00:27:23,442 --> 00:27:24,162</time>
<s>就重新弄</s>
<time>740_00:27:24,522 --> 00:27:25,242</time>
<s>过两天回来了</s>
<time>741_00:27:25,602 --> 00:27:25,962</time>
<s>回来我就</s>
<time>742_00:27:27,042 --> 00:27:27,762</time>
<s>找他</s>
<time>743_00:27:28,122 --> 00:27:29,562</time>
<s>我说五哥我给你</s>
<time>744_00:27:29,922 --> 00:27:31,362</time>
<s>（照片）裱了几张框</s>
<time>745_00:27:31,722 --> 00:27:32,442</time>
<s>你看一眼</s>
<time>746_00:27:32,802 --> 00:27:33,522</time>
<s>他一看</s>
<time>747_00:27:33,882 --> 00:27:34,242</time>
<s>背景全换了</s>
<time>748_00:27:34,602 --> 00:27:34,962</time>
<s>他说这个</s>
<time>749_00:27:36,042 --> 00:27:36,402</time>
<s>还挺好看的</s>
<time>750_00:27:37,482 --> 00:27:38,202</time>
<s>你还挺有心的</s>
<time>751_00:27:38,922 --> 00:27:40,722</time>
<s>我说没别的我就是很喜欢你</s>
<time>752_00:27:41,082 --> 00:27:42,162</time>
<s>我就给你好好弄几张</s>
<time>753_00:27:43,242 --> 00:27:44,322</time>
<s>他就帮我介绍了几个</s>
<time>754_00:27:44,682 --> 00:27:45,762</time>
<s>我就开始拍摇滚乐队的照片</s>
<time>755_00:27:47,202 --> 00:27:47,922</time>
<s>就那么混着</s>
<time>756_00:27:48,282 --> 00:27:50,802</time>
<s>红庙西里一个村里头</s>
<time>757_00:27:51,162 --> 00:27:52,242</time>
<s>租了一间厨房</s>
<time>758_00:27:54,042 --> 00:27:55,122</time>
<s>然后两人睡</s>
<time>759_00:27:55,482 --> 00:27:56,202</time>
<s>睡一个厨房</s>
<time>760_00:27:57,642 --> 00:27:58,722</time>
<s>你不会觉得那个很辛苦</s>
<time>761_00:27:59,082 --> 00:28:00,162</time>
<s>你会觉得就是</s>
<time>762_00:28:00,522 --> 00:28:01,602</time>
<s>很有生命力</s>
<time>763_00:28:01,962 --> 00:28:02,682</time>
<s>很带劲</s>
<time>764_00:28:04,122 --> 00:28:05,202</time>
<s>我觉得那时候每个人心里头</s>
<time>765_00:28:05,562 --> 00:28:07,002</time>
<s>都装着一种</s>
<time>766_00:28:07,362 --> 00:28:08,802</time>
<s>希望和可能性的感觉</s>
<time>767_00:28:09,162 --> 00:28:09,882</time>
<s>我印象真挺深的</s>
<time>768_00:28:10,242 --> 00:28:10,602</time>
<s>有一次我来</s>
<time>769_00:28:10,962 --> 00:28:11,682</time>
<s>在那个胡同口</s>
<time>770_00:28:12,402 --> 00:28:13,122</time>
<s>有一个大哥</s>
<time>771_00:28:13,842 --> 00:28:14,202</time>
<s>光头</s>
<time>772_00:28:14,922 --> 00:28:15,642</time>
<s>看着挺凶的一个样子</s>
<time>773_00:28:16,002 --> 00:28:16,722</time>
<s>干嘛呢你们</s>
<time>774_00:28:17,802 --> 00:28:18,522</time>
<s>我就挺害怕</s>
<time>775_00:28:19,242 --> 00:28:19,962</time>
<s>我们</s>
<time>776_00:28:20,322 --> 00:28:21,762</time>
<s>来旅游的</s>
<time>777_00:28:23,202 --> 00:28:23,922</time>
<s>去哪儿了都</s>
<time>778_00:28:24,282 --> 00:28:25,002</time>
<s>我说刚到</s>
<time>779_00:28:25,362 --> 00:28:26,082</time>
<s>住哪儿</s>
<time>780_00:28:26,442 --> 00:28:28,242</time>
<s>有的没的就在哪儿聊半天</s>
<time>781_00:28:29,322 --> 00:28:29,682</time>
<s>聊完之后呢</s>
<time>782_00:28:30,042 --> 00:28:30,402</time>
<s>站起来走了</s>
<time>783_00:28:30,762 --> 00:28:31,482</time>
<s>把他们几个账结了</s>
<time>784_00:28:32,562 --> 00:28:33,642</time>
<s>站起来走了</s>
<time>785_00:28:34,002 --> 00:28:36,162</time>
<s>你当时对那个北京的</s>
<time>786_00:28:36,522 --> 00:28:37,602</time>
<s>好感度激增</s>
<time>787_00:28:37,962 --> 00:28:38,682</time>
<s>对很温暖的</s>
<time>788_00:28:39,042 --> 00:28:39,762</time>
<s>觉得太棒了</s>
<time>789_00:28:40,122 --> 00:28:40,842</time>
<s>然后这个</s>
<time>790_00:28:41,202 --> 00:28:43,362</time>
<s>而且那种城市的文化和氛围</s>
<time>791_00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:45,162</time>
<s>你觉得是这样一个城市</s>
<time>792_00:28:45,522 --> 00:28:46,242</time>
<s>不光是年轻人</s>
<time>793_00:28:46,602 --> 00:28:46,962</time>
<s>其实我</s>
<time>794_00:28:47,322 --> 00:28:49,122</time>
<s>甚至觉得我那房东什么</s>
<time>795_00:28:49,482 --> 00:28:50,202</time>
<s>那些大哥</s>
<time>796_00:28:50,562 --> 00:28:51,282</time>
<s>我觉得他都觉得</s>
<time>797_00:28:51,642 --> 00:28:52,362</time>
<s>明天会更好</s>
<time>798_00:28:53,082 --> 00:28:53,802</time>
<s>一下那个</s>
<time>799_00:28:54,522 --> 00:28:55,242</time>
<s>怎么着都不是事</s>
<time>800_00:28:55,962 --> 00:28:57,042</time>
<s>就那样的一个状态</s>
<time>801_00:28:58,122 --> 00:28:59,562</time>
<s>挺潇酒的一个阶段</s>
<time>802_00:29:01,362 --> 00:29:01,722</time>
<s>但是</s>
<time>803_00:29:02,082 --> 00:29:03,882</time>
<s>我觉得现在北京的</s>
<time>804_00:29:04,242 --> 00:29:06,402</time>
<s>那种文化的氛围</s>
<time>805_00:29:06,762 --> 00:29:08,562</time>
<s>没有像当时那么</s>
<time>806_00:29:08,922 --> 00:29:11,442</time>
<s>那么热闹的感觉就是</s>
<time>807_00:29:12,162 --> 00:29:13,602</time>
<s>现在是一种</s>
<time>808_00:29:13,962 --> 00:29:15,402</time>
<s>好像就让你觉得都规范了</s>
<time>809_00:29:15,762 --> 00:29:16,842</time>
<s>现在是工程</s>
<time>810_00:29:17,922 --> 00:29:19,002</time>
<s>很多东西都是规范了</s>
<time>811_00:29:19,362 --> 00:29:20,082</time>
<s>都生意了</s>
<time>812_00:29:20,442 --> 00:29:21,522</time>
<s>艺术品化的一个(氛围)</s>
<time>813_00:29:22,602 --> 00:29:23,682</time>
<s>然后一个电影</s>
<time>814_00:29:25,122 --> 00:29:26,202</time>
<s>能有多少票房</s>
<time>815_00:29:26,562 --> 00:29:27,642</time>
<s>然后能有</s>
<time>816_00:29:28,002 --> 00:29:29,082</time>
<s>什么功名</s>
<time>817_00:29:31,242 --> 00:29:31,602</time>
<s>以前有</s>
<time>818_00:29:31,962 --> 00:29:33,042</time>
<s>特别性感</s>
<time>819_00:29:33,402 --> 00:29:34,482</time>
<s>特别鲜艳的那个感觉</s>
<time>820_00:29:35,202 --> 00:29:36,282</time>
<s>现在就特别数字</s>
<time>821_00:29:38,802 --> 00:29:39,882</time>
<s>这种对你个人的影响呢</s>
<time>822_00:29:44,922 --> 00:29:45,282</time>
<s>你比较真实的</s>
<time>823_00:29:45,642 --> 00:29:47,442</time>
<s>了解你自己的处境</s>
<time>824_00:29:47,802 --> 00:29:49,602</time>
<s>这是我一直关注的</s>
<time>825_00:29:51,042 --> 00:29:52,482</time>
<s>周围的东西变化了</s>
<time>826_00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,362</time>
<s>你也就是真诚地说</s>
<time>827_00:29:55,722 --> 00:29:56,442</time>
<s>它变化了</s>
<time>828_00:29:56,802 --> 00:29:57,522</time>
<s>你不能说它变化了</s>
<time>829_00:29:57,882 --> 00:29:58,962</time>
<s>我还闭着眼说还是那套</s>
<time>830_00:29:59,322 --> 00:29:59,682</time>
<s>我再玩那套</s>
<time>831_00:30:01,122 --> 00:30:03,282</time>
<s>我好像也不太承认这种的</s>
<time>832_00:30:03,642 --> 00:30:05,442</time>
<s>创作观或者是</s>
<time>833_00:30:06,162 --> 00:30:06,882</time>
<s>~</s>
<time>834_00:30:07,242 --> 00:30:08,682</time>
<s>那你就真的去关心</s>
<time>835_00:30:09,042 --> 00:30:10,482</time>
<s>它现在这个时代是什么</s>
<time>836_00:30:11,562 --> 00:30:13,362</time>
<s>你虽然不要说</s>
<time>837_00:30:13,722 --> 00:30:14,442</time>
<s>成为弄潮儿</s>
<time>838_00:30:15,882 --> 00:30:16,602</time>
<s>冲到最前头</s>
<time>839_00:30:16,962 --> 00:30:18,042</time>
<s>但是你不能</s>
<time>840_00:30:18,402 --> 00:30:19,482</time>
<s>你不能无感</s>
<time>841_00:30:21,642 --> 00:30:22,722</time>
<s>但你就是弄潮儿</s>
<time>842_00:30:23,802 --> 00:30:25,242</time>
<s>你弄了你自己很大的一个潮</s>
<time>843_00:30:26,322 --> 00:30:27,762</time>
<s>我</s>
<time>844_00:30:28,122 --> 00:30:29,202</time>
<s>其实我不觉得</s>
<time>845_00:30:29,562 --> 00:30:30,282</time>
<s>我是弄潮儿</s>
<time>846_00:30:31,002 --> 00:30:31,722</time>
<s>我觉得其实我是一个</s>
<time>847_00:30:32,082 --> 00:30:32,802</time>
<s>被怎么说呢是</s>
<time>848_00:30:34,602 --> 00:30:35,682</time>
<s>可能在那个阶段</s>
<time>849_00:30:36,042 --> 00:30:37,482</time>
<s>选择你去做了那件事</s>
<time>850_00:30:37,842 --> 00:30:38,562</time>
<s>但是</s>
<time>851_00:30:38,922 --> 00:30:39,642</time>
<s>没有你有别人</s>
<time>852_00:30:40,722 --> 00:30:41,442</time>
<s>是一样的</s>
<time>853_00:30:41,802 --> 00:30:42,882</time>
<s>他一定会出现</s>
<time>854_00:30:43,242 --> 00:30:44,322</time>
<s>只是刚好把你甩出来了</s>
<time>855_00:30:44,682 --> 00:30:46,122</time>
<s>你做了这么一部电影</s>
<time>856_00:30:47,202 --> 00:30:47,562</time>
<s>反正是这么一个</s>
<time>857_00:30:48,642 --> 00:30:50,082</time>
<s>并没有</s>
<time>858_00:30:51,882 --> 00:30:53,322</time>
<s>你自己千万别狂妄</s>
<time>859_00:30:55,122 --> 00:30:55,842</time>
<s>为什么你对这一点</s>
<time>860_00:30:56,202 --> 00:30:56,562</time>
<s>这么敏感呢</s>
<time>861_00:31:00,882 --> 00:31:02,322</time>
<s>我会觉得其实人</s>
<time>862_00:31:02,682 --> 00:31:03,402</time>
<s>就没有那么伟大</s>
<time>863_00:31:03,762 --> 00:31:04,842</time>
<s>或者说这种想法是怎么</s>
<time>864_00:31:05,202 --> 00:31:05,922</time>
<s>形成的呢</s>
<time>865_00:31:06,282 --> 00:31:06,642</time>
<s>因为有的人</s>
<time>866_00:31:07,002 --> 00:31:07,362</time>
<s>不同的人会</s>
<time>867_00:31:07,722 --> 00:31:08,442</time>
<s>对不同的事情敏感</s>
<time>868_00:31:09,882 --> 00:31:10,242</time>
<s>有的人可能</s>
<time>869_00:31:10,602 --> 00:31:12,042</time>
<s>焦灼于自己这方面</s>
<time>870_00:31:12,402 --> 00:31:13,122</time>
<s>有的人是这方面</s>
<time>871_00:31:13,482 --> 00:31:14,202</time>
<s>你像你对狂妄这件事情</s>
<time>872_00:31:14,562 --> 00:31:14,922</time>
<s>很敏感</s>
<time>873_00:31:15,642 --> 00:31:16,722</time>
<s>不停地嘲讽这件事情</s>
<time>874_00:31:17,442 --> 00:31:18,882</time>
<s>我会特别地</s>
<time>875_00:31:19,602 --> 00:31:20,682</time>
<s>尊重时间</s>
<time>876_00:31:22,482 --> 00:31:23,562</time>
<s>我尊重时间和机缘</s>
<time>877_00:31:24,282 --> 00:31:24,642</time>
<s>你想我是非典</s>
<time>878_00:31:25,002 --> 00:31:25,722</time>
<s>那年毕业</s>
<time>879_00:31:26,802 --> 00:31:27,522</time>
<s>电影学院毕业的嘛</s>
