<time>1100_00:49:22,067 --> 00:49:24,867</time>
<s>啊来向这个州呢来应什这个相关检查</s>
<time>1101_00:49:25,567 --> 00:49:27,667</time>
<s>和啊向这个州卫生局</s>
<time>1102_00:49:28,033 --> 00:49:28,367</time>
<s>韵检豪过程中，像文山州中医医院这种问民间情员的情沉定自前为正发现的</s>
<time>1103_00:49:28,733 --> 00:49:30,467</time>
<s>啊表示整改的这个情况</s>
<time>1104_00:49:30,833 --> 00:49:31,167</time>
<s>韵检豪过程中，像文山州中医医院这种问民间情员的情况定自前为正发现的</s>
<time>1105_00:49:31,533 --> 00:49:32,933</time>
<s>那么就做这个简单的说明</s>
<time>1106_00:49:33,267 --> 00:49:33,633</time>
<s>韵检豪过程中，像文山州中医医院这种问民间情员的情况定自前为正发现的</s>
<time>1107_00:49:33,967 --> 00:49:35,033</time>
<s>公诉人继续举证</s>
<time>1108_00:49:35,367 --> 00:49:36,067</time>
<s>韵检豪过程中，像文山州中医医院这种问民间情员的情沉定自前为正发现的</s>
<time>1109_00:49:36,433 --> 00:49:38,167</time>
<s>下面列举的是第三组证据</s>
<time>1110_00:49:38,533 --> 00:49:40,967</time>
<s>是借款以及造成损失的相关情况</s>
<time>1111_00:49:42,033 --> 00:49:42,733</time>
<s>那么第一组</s>
<time>1112_00:49:43,067 --> 00:49:45,167</time>
<s>是各银行出具的这个情况说明</s>
<time>1113_00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:46,933</time>
<s>第二组是向</s>
<time>1114_00:49:47,633 --> 00:49:50,067</time>
<s>私人借款还款情况明细表</s>
<time>1115_00:49:51,133 --> 00:49:51,833</time>
<s>借款协议书</s>
<time>1116_00:49:52,167 --> 00:49:52,867</time>
<s>合作协议</s>
<time>1117_00:49:53,233 --> 00:49:53,933</time>
<s>融资协议</s>
<time>1118_00:49:54,267 --> 00:49:55,333</time>
<s>借条财务凭证</s>
<time>1119_00:49:56,733 --> 00:49:58,833</time>
<s>第三组是文山州卫生局转报</s>
<time>1120_00:49:59,167 --> 00:50:01,267</time>
<s>文山州中医院关干解决</s>
<time>1121_00:50:01,633 --> 00:50:01,967</time>
<s>整体搬迁</s>
<time>1122_00:50:02,333 --> 00:50:04,767</time>
<s>形成的政府性债务文件的请示</s>
<time>1123_00:50:05,833 --> 00:50:07,233</time>
<s>关干续拔政府借款</s>
<time>1124_00:50:07,567 --> 00:50:09,667</time>
<s>用干偿还到期债务文件的请示</s>
<time>1125_00:50:10,367 --> 00:50:12,833</time>
<s>文山州财政局公文办理单</s>
<time>1126_00:50:13,167 --> 00:50:14,567</time>
<s>文山州政府办文单</s>
<time>1127_00:50:15,267 --> 00:50:17,033</time>
<s>拔款凭证和银行凭证</s>
<time>1128_00:50:18,067 --> 00:50:19,467</time>
<s>那么该组证据主要是证明</s>
<time>1129_00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:22,633</time>
<s>在2010年到2016年期间</s>
<time>1130_00:50:23,667 --> 00:50:25,433</time>
<s>州中医院向建设银行</s>
<time>1131_00:50:25,767 --> 00:50:26,467</time>
<s>中国银行</s>
<time>1132_00:50:26,833 --> 00:50:28,933</time>
<s>邮政储蓄银行申请过贷款</s>
<time>1133_00:50:29,633 --> 00:50:32,067</time>
<s>因负债过高不符合贷款准入条件</s>
<time>1134_00:50:32,433 --> 00:50:33,467</time>
<s>未能申贷成功</s>
<time>1135_00:50:34,533 --> 00:50:35,233</time>
<s>在2014年</s>
<time>1136_00:50:35,567 --> 00:50:38,367</time>
<s>向文山民丰村镇银行贷款1年期</s>
<time>1137_00:50:38,733 --> 00:50:39,067</time>
<s>1,000万元</s>
<time>1138_00:50:40,133 --> 00:50:41,867</time>
<s>2015年向文山</s>
<time>1139_00:50:42,233 --> 00:50:45,033</time>
<s>民丰村镇银行贷款1年期1,200百万元</s>
<time>1140_00:50:46,067 --> 00:50:47,467</time>
<s>该两笔贷款均已结清</s>
<time>1141_00:50:51,667 --> 00:50:53,767</time>
<s>证实州中医院向私人借款</s>
<time>1142_00:50:54,133 --> 00:50:55,867</time>
<s>共计两亿余元</s>
<time>1143_00:50:57,267 --> 00:50:57,633</time>
<s>第三</s>
<time>1144_00:50:58,667 --> 00:50:59,733</time>
<s>证实2015年</s>
<time>1145_00:51:00,067 --> 00:51:01,467</time>
<s>经请示州人民政府</s>
<time>1146_00:51:02,167 --> 00:51:05,333</time>
<s>由州财政局借款6.000万元给州中医院</s>
<time>1147_00:51:05,667 --> 00:51:06,733</time>
<s>偿还到期债务</s>
<time>1148_00:51:08,133 --> 00:51:10,933</time>
<s>州中医院干2016年还清相关借款</s>
<time>1149_00:51:11,967 --> 00:51:14,433</time>
<s>那么请法庭对该组证据进行质证</s>
<time>1150_00:51:16,167 --> 00:51:18,967</time>
<s>被告韦光萍对这组证据有什么意见</s>
<time>1151_00:51:21,767 --> 00:51:22,467</time>
<s>这个证据</s>
<time>1152_00:51:24,933 --> 00:51:27,367</time>
<s>我想问一下主要是要证明什么</s>
<time>1153_00:51:30,167 --> 00:51:30,867</time>
<s>进一步说明</s>
<time>1154_00:51:31,567 --> 00:51:33,333</time>
<s>主要就是证实在案发期间</s>
<time>1155_00:51:33,667 --> 00:51:35,067</time>
<s>州中医院借款的情况</s>
<time>1156_00:51:36,133 --> 00:51:38,233</time>
<s>首先第一部分是向银行借款情况</s>
<time>1157_00:51:38,933 --> 00:51:40,667</time>
<s>第二部分是向私人借款情况</s>
<time>1158_00:51:41,733 --> 00:51:44,167</time>
<s>第三部分是州政府协调资金给中医院</s>
<time>1159_00:51:44,533 --> 00:51:46,267</time>
<s>用干偿还民间借贷的情况</s>
<time>1160_00:51:48,033 --> 00:51:48,367</time>
<s>清楚没有</s>
<time>1161_00:51:49,067 --> 00:51:49,767</time>
<s>有什么意见清楚啊</s>
<time>1162_00:51:50,133 --> 00:51:51,167</time>
<s>就是第一个就是</s>
<time>1163_00:51:52,233 --> 00:51:52,567</time>
<s>向</s>
<time>1164_00:51:53,267 --> 00:51:55,733</time>
<s>中医院向几个银行申请贷款</s>
<time>1165_00:51:56,067 --> 00:51:57,133</time>
<s>因为不符合条件</s>
<time>1166_00:51:58,867 --> 00:52:00,267</time>
<s>这个不能借住（到）款</s>
<time>1167_00:52:00,633 --> 00:52:00,967</time>
<s>这说明</s>
<time>1168_00:52:02,033 --> 00:52:03,433</time>
<s>没有借款的来源</s>
<time>1169_00:52:04,133 --> 00:52:05,867</time>
<s>还有其他银行呕</s>
<time>1170_00:52:06,933 --> 00:52:09,033</time>
<s>为什么就没有列举呢</s>
<time>1171_00:52:13,567 --> 00:52:13,933</time>
<s>有没有意见</s>
<time>1172_00:52:14,267 --> 00:52:18,133</time>
<s>还有就是像这个农业银行</s>
<time>1173_00:52:18,833 --> 00:52:19,867</time>
<s>这个富滇银行</s>
<time>1174_00:52:20,933 --> 00:52:21,967</time>
<s>还有这个</s>
<time>1175_00:52:24,433 --> 00:52:25,833</time>
<s>啊农商行就是信用社</s>
<time>1176_00:52:26,167 --> 00:52:28,633</time>
<s>我们也申请过借款为什么就不列举呢</s>
<time>1177_00:52:30,367 --> 00:52:32,133</time>
<s>为什么就不去证实呢</s>
<time>1178_00:52:34,933 --> 00:52:35,633</time>
<s>有富滇银行</s>
<time>1179_00:52:36,333 --> 00:52:37,033</time>
<s>农商行对</s>
<time>1180_00:52:37,367 --> 00:52:38,767</time>
<s>都都申请过是吧</s>
<time>1181_00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:39,467</time>
<s>对</s>
<time>1182_00:52:40,167 --> 00:52:42,267</time>
<s>啊没有列举是吧对</s>
<time>1183_00:52:44,033 --> 00:52:44,367</time>
<s>第二个问题</s>
<time>1184_00:52:45,433 --> 00:52:48,933</time>
<s>州中医院向私人借款共计2亿多元</s>
<time>1185_00:52:49,633 --> 00:52:51,367</time>
<s>这是一个资金流水</s>
<time>1186_00:52:51,733 --> 00:52:53,467</time>
<s>不是一次借入2亿多元</s>
<time>1187_00:52:54,167 --> 00:52:56,267</time>
<s>这是一个一个银行流水</s>
<time>1188_00:52:57,333 --> 00:52:59,067</time>
<s>邢么在这个反映到中医院</s>
<time>1189_00:52:59,433 --> 00:53:01,533</time>
<s>在这个借款最高峰的时候</s>
<time>1190_00:53:02,233 --> 00:53:04,667</time>
<s>也就是这个7，300万元</s>
<time>1191_00:53:05,733 --> 00:53:07,833</time>
<s>就是他说的这个是一个</s>
<time>1192_00:53:08,167 --> 00:53:08,867</time>
<s>银行流水</s>
<time>1193_00:53:09,567 --> 00:53:12,367</time>
<s>不是一次性借助2亿多元这个也没说</s>
<time>1194_00:53:12,733 --> 00:53:13,067</time>
<s>没有说清楚</s>
<time>1195_00:53:14,133 --> 00:53:15,867</time>
<s>没说清楚是吧对没说清楚</s>
<time>1196_00:53:17,267 --> 00:53:17,967</time>
<s>还有没有</s>
<time>1197_00:53:18,333 --> 00:53:19,733</time>
<s>没有第三个没有问题</s>
<time>1198_00:53:20,433 --> 00:53:22,867</time>
<s>没意见啊由辩护人发表质证意见</s>
<time>1199_00:53:24,267 --> 00:53:26,033</time>
<s>这个请特别注意法庭</s>
<time>1200_00:53:26,367 --> 00:53:29,167</time>
<s>注意这个刚这个公诉人提交的这组证据</s>
<time>1201_00:53:29,867 --> 00:53:34,067</time>
<s>之所以发生向社会民间的这个行为</s>
<time>1202_00:53:35,133 --> 00:53:37,233</time>
<s>融资行为就是因为像银行</s>
<time>1203_00:53:38,267 --> 00:53:39,667</time>
<s>的借贷不成立</s>
<time>1204_00:53:40,033 --> 00:53:41,067</time>
<s>银行不子贷款</s>
<time>1205_00:53:41,767 --> 00:53:44,933</time>
<s>在没有办法解决在医院的</s>
<time>1206_00:53:45,967 --> 00:53:47,733</time>
<s>迁建过程中的资金缺口</s>
<time>1207_00:53:48,433 --> 00:53:49,133</time>
<s>那么通过</s>
<time>1208_00:53:49,833 --> 00:53:52,633</time>
<s>上院长办公会而向社会进行的</s>
<time>1209_00:53:53,333 --> 00:53:54,733</time>
<s>集资的行为完7</s>
<time>1210_00:53:56,833 --> 00:53:57,167</time>
<s>公诉人</s>
<time>1211_00:53:57,533 --> 00:53:59,267</time>
<s>对被告人及辩护人提出的质证意见</s>
<time>1212_00:53:59,633 --> 00:54:00,333</time>
<s>进行说明</s>
<time>1213_00:54:01,033 --> 00:54:01,367</time>
<s>简单说明</s>
<time>1214_00:54:01,733 --> 00:54:04,167</time>
<s>首先针对被告人韦光萍的这个意见</s>
<time>1215_00:54:05,233 --> 00:54:07,667</time>
<s>邢么富滇银行和其提到的其他银行</s>
<time>1216_00:54:08,367 --> 00:54:10,133</time>
<s>邢么在说情况说明当中</s>
<time>1217_00:54:10,833 --> 00:54:11,533</time>
<s>明确就是期间</s>
<time>1218_00:54:11,867 --> 00:54:13,967</time>
<s>州中医院没有向这些银行贷过款</s>
<time>1219_00:54:14,667 --> 00:54:16,767</time>
<s>所以在此就啊省略</s>
<time>1220_00:54:17,467 --> 00:54:17,833</time>
<s>没有列举</s>
<time>1221_00:54:18,533 --> 00:54:19,933</time>
<s>只有建设银行</s>
<time>1222_00:54:20,267 --> 00:54:20,633</time>
<s>中国银行</s>
<time>1223_00:54:20,967 --> 00:54:23,067</time>
<s>和邮政储蓄银行的情况说明当中</s>
<time>1224_00:54:23,433 --> 00:54:23,767</time>
<s>提到过</s>
<time>1225_00:54:24,833 --> 00:54:26,567</time>
<s>啊不符合准入条件</s>
<time>1226_00:54:26,933 --> 00:54:28,333</time>
<s>没有申贷成功的这个情况</s>
<time>1227_00:54:29,033 --> 00:54:31,467</time>
<s>邢么都是根据银行的相相关情况说明</s>
<time>1228_00:54:31,833 --> 00:54:33,233</time>
<s>来进行这个反映的</s>
<time>1229_00:54:34,967 --> 00:54:35,333</time>
<s>然后第二点</s>
<time>1230_00:54:35,667 --> 00:54:37,067</time>
<s>针对向私人借款</s>
<time>1231_00:54:37,767 --> 00:54:39,533</time>
<s>那么我们主要证实的就是说</s>
<time>1232_00:54:39,867 --> 00:54:42,667</time>
<s>向私人借款是共计2亿余元</s>
<time>1233_00:54:44,433 --> 00:54:45,833</time>
<s>邢么在证明这个观点的时候</s>
<time>1234_00:54:46,167 --> 00:54:48,967</time>
<s>公诉人也并没有表示说这是一笔借的</s>
<time>1235_00:54:50,033 --> 00:54:51,767</time>
<s>我们说的是共计2亿余元</s>
<time>1236_00:54:54,233 --> 00:54:54,933</time>
<s>好听清楚7</s>
<time>1237_00:54:55,967 --> 00:54:57,367</time>
<s>说这个富滇银行</s>
<time>1238_00:54:57,733 --> 00:54:58,433</time>
<s>农商银行</s>
<time>1239_00:54:58,767 --> 00:54:59,467</time>
<s>工商银行在之前</s>
<time>1240_00:54:59,833 --> 00:55:01,233</time>
<s>出具的情况说明已经说7</s>
<time>1241_00:55:01,567 --> 00:55:02,633</time>
<s>是有申请过</s>
<time>1242_00:55:03,333 --> 00:55:05,067</time>
<s>这个在庭前会议上都展示过呢</s>
<time>1243_00:55:05,433 --> 00:55:06,133</time>
<s>听懂没有</s>
<time>1244_00:55:07,867 --> 00:55:08,567</time>
<s>好公诉人继续举证</s>
<time>1245_00:55:09,967 --> 00:55:12,067</time>
<s>下面列举相关的这个证人证言</s>
<time>1246_00:55:13,133 --> 00:55:14,167</time>
<s>首先第一组是</s>
<time>1247_00:55:14,867 --> 00:55:16,967</time>
<s>相关借款给州中医院的借款人</s>
<time>1248_00:55:18,033 --> 00:55:19,767</time>
<s>主要有证人</s>
<time>1249_00:55:44,967 --> 00:55:46,367</time>
<s>的这个证言</s>
<time>1250_00:55:47,433 --> 00:55:49,867</time>
<s>以上25名证人主要是证明啊</s>
<time>1251_00:55:50,933 --> 00:55:53,033</time>
<s>均是通过这个王嘉宏或者是</s>
<time>1252_00:55:53,367 --> 00:55:54,433</time>
<s>其他朋友介绍之后</s>
<time>1253_00:55:55,133 --> 00:55:57,567</time>
<s>邢么知道州中医院向民间借贷</s>
<time>1254_00:55:58,267 --> 00:55:58,967</time>
<s>利息比较高</s>
<time>1255_00:56:00,033 --> 00:56:01,067</time>
<s>后来就与州中医院</s>
<time>1256_00:56:01,433 --> 00:56:03,167</time>
<s>签订7相关的这个借款协议</s>
<time>1257_00:56:04,233 --> 00:56:06,667</time>
<s>月息是3%到6%不等</s>
<time>1258_00:56:07,733 --> 00:56:10,167</time>
<s>邢么其中超出国家规定利息的部分</s>
<time>1259_00:56:10,533 --> 00:56:12,267</time>
<s>是通过以担保费的方式</s>
<time>1260_00:56:12,633 --> 00:56:13,667</time>
<s>来进行转移支什</s>
<time>1261_00:56:15,767 --> 00:56:18,567</time>
<s>第二组证据是李嘉兰和陈刚的证言</s>
<time>1262_00:56:19,633 --> 00:56:20,667</time>
<s>两名证人是文山</s>
<time>1263_00:56:21,033 --> 00:56:23,467</time>
<s>市技兴电脑经营部的法人和</s>
<time>1264_00:56:23,833 --> 00:56:24,533</time>
<s>实际经营者</s>
<time>1265_00:56:25,567 --> 00:56:26,267</time>
<s>两人主要证实</s>
<time>1266_00:56:26,633 --> 00:56:29,433</time>
<s>在得知州中医院财务状况不好之后</s>
<time>1267_00:56:30,133 --> 00:56:32,933</time>
<s>通过王家宏来借钱给这个州中医院</s>
<time>1268_00:56:33,967 --> 00:56:36,433</time>
<s>邢么在州中医院民间借贷的过程当中</s>
<time>1269_00:56:37,133 --> 00:56:38,867</time>
<s>王嘉宏还找到陈刚</s>
<time>1270_00:56:39,567 --> 00:56:42,367</time>
<s>用其经营的技兴电脑经营部作为担保</s>
<time>1271_00:56:43,067 --> 00:56:44,133</time>
<s>来收取这个担保费</s>
<time>1272_00:56:45,167 --> 00:56:47,633</time>
<s>然后又将担保费打给相关借款人</s>
<time>1273_00:56:48,333 --> 00:56:49,367</time>
<s>实际上</s>
<time>1274_00:56:49,733 --> 00:56:52,167</time>
<s>所谓的担保费就是约定好的这个利息</s>
<time>1275_00:56:53,233 --> 00:56:53,567</time>
<s>邢么请</s>
<time>1276_00:56:53,933 --> 00:56:56,367</time>
<s>法庭组织对以上证人证言进行质证</s>
<time>1277_00:56:57,433 --> 00:56:57,767</time>
<s>被告韦光萍</s>
<time>1278_00:56:58,133 --> 00:56:59,867</time>
<s>对这组证人证言有什么意见</s>
<time>1279_00:57:01,633 --> 00:57:01,967</time>
<s>这个</s>
<time>1280_00:57:02,333 --> 00:57:05,467</time>
<s>第一刚戈就是刚戈放过的邢那一组</s>
<time>1281_00:57:06,167 --> 00:57:07,933</time>
<s>就是借款人的情况</s>
<time>1282_00:57:08,633 --> 00:57:09,667</time>
<s>呕我不清楚</s>
<time>1283_00:57:10,033 --> 00:57:11,067</time>
<s>然后呢有一些啊</s>
<time>1284_00:57:11,433 --> 00:57:13,167</time>
<s>就是我清楚的过程中有一些的</s>
<time>1285_00:57:14,233 --> 00:57:15,633</time>
<s>借款好像是没有利息的</s>
<time>1286_00:57:16,333 --> 00:57:19,133</time>
<s>第二种就是李佳兰和陈甘的情况</s>
<time>1287_00:57:19,467 --> 00:57:20,167</time>
<s>我不清楚</s>
<time>1288_00:57:20,867 --> 00:57:22,267</time>
<s>我也不知道啊</s>
<time>1289_00:57:22,633 --> 00:57:24,367</time>
<s>有一些是没利息的是吧对</s>
<time>1290_00:57:26,133 --> 00:57:27,533</time>
<s>好辩护人发表质证意见</s>
<time>1291_00:57:32,433 --> 00:57:34,867</time>
<s>对刚戈所列举的证据</s>
<time>1292_00:57:35,233 --> 00:57:37,667</time>
<s>辩护人认为请法庭注意一个情况</s>
<time>1293_00:57:38,033 --> 00:57:40,133</time>
<s>就是说在这些证人证言中间</s>
<time>1294_00:57:40,467 --> 00:57:41,533</time>
<s>就私人这个里边</s>
<time>1295_00:57:42,233 --> 00:57:44,333</time>
<s>涉足到7周厚军</s>
<time>1296_00:57:44,667 --> 00:57:47,133</time>
<s>李佳兰跟陈刚这三个人呢跟</s>
<time>1297_00:57:47,833 --> 00:57:48,167</time>
<s>这个</s>
<time>1298_00:57:48,867 --> 00:57:52,733</time>
<s>医院的念会计师王家宏有亲戚关系</s>
<time>1299_00:57:53,433 --> 00:57:56,567</time>
<s>根据鉴定意见书的</s>
<time>1300_00:57:57,267 --> 00:57:59,033</time>
<s>表副表中间</s>
<time>1301_00:57:59,367 --> 00:58:02,167</time>
<s>他们三个人在这个这个时段中间</s>
<time>1302_00:58:02,867 --> 00:58:03,933</time>
<s>通过向</s>
<time>1303_00:58:04,967 --> 00:58:15,833</time>
<s>医院借款一共收到71,172万1600元的银行利息</s>
<time>1304_00:58:16,867 --> 00:58:17,933</time>
<s>这个行为</s>
<time>1305_00:58:18,267 --> 00:58:21,067</time>
<s>是跟王家宏行为有道接的关系</s>
<time>1306_00:58:21,767 --> 00:58:24,567</time>
<s>所以请法庭特别注意这一个细节</s>
<time>1307_00:58:24,933 --> 00:58:25,267</time>
<s>完7谢谢</s>
<time>1308_00:58:27,733 --> 00:58:28,767</time>
<s>公诉人进行说明</s>
<time>1309_00:58:30,167 --> 00:58:30,867</time>
<s>简单的说明</s>
<time>1310_00:58:31,567 --> 00:58:32,267</time>
<s>做一个说明</s>
<time>1311_00:58:32,633 --> 00:58:34,367</time>
<s>首先针对这个相关的这个</s>
<time>1312_00:58:35,067 --> 00:58:36,133</time>
<s>啊借款人的这个证言</s>
<time>1313_00:58:36,833 --> 00:58:37,867</time>
<s>那他是客观反映了</s>
<time>1314_00:58:38,233 --> 00:58:39,967</time>
<s>借款给州中医院的情况</s>
<time>1315_00:58:40,667 --> 00:58:42,767</time>
<s>那么也有相应的这个借款合同</s>
<time>1316_00:58:43,133 --> 00:58:44,867</time>
<s>借款协议来子以印证</s>
<time>1317_00:58:45,567 --> 00:58:47,333</time>
<s>那么同时在相关的借款协议上</s>
<time>1318_00:58:47,667 --> 00:58:49,067</time>
<s>邢么院长韦光萍</s>
<time>1319_00:58:49,767 --> 00:58:50,467</time>
<s>那么当时是</s>
<time>1320_00:58:51,167 --> 00:58:54,333</time>
<s>啊签签过字的就是和相关合同</s>
<time>1321_00:58:55,367 --> 00:58:57,467</time>
<s>邢么对千李嘉兰和陈刚的这个问题</s>
<time>1322_00:58:57,833 --> 00:59:00,267</time>
<s>邢么随后将继续列举这个王嘉宏和</s>
<time>1323_00:59:00,967 --> 00:59:02,367</time>
<s>啊韦光萍的相关供述</s>
<time>1324_00:59:03,433 --> 00:59:05,167</time>
<s>邢么对干支什担保费的这个问题</s>
<time>1325_00:59:05,533 --> 00:59:06,233</time>
<s>邢么实际上</s>
<time>1326_00:59:06,933 --> 00:59:09,733</time>
<s>王家宏和韦光萍都是子以认可的</s>
<time>1327_00:59:10,767 --> 00:59:11,133</time>
<s>邢么还有一个</s>
<time>1328_00:59:11,833 --> 00:59:13,933</time>
<s>针对辩护人提到的周厚军李佳兰</s>
<time>1329_00:59:14,267 --> 00:59:18,133</time>
<s>陈刚与王家宏有亲戚关系啊获得</s>
<time>1330_00:59:19,167 --> 00:59:20,933</time>
<s>大量的这个利息的这个情况</s>
<time>1331_00:59:21,267 --> 00:59:22,333</time>
<s>那我们认为就是说</s>
<time>1332_00:59:23,033 --> 00:59:25,133</time>
<s>这个是涉及到王家宏本人</s>
<time>1333_00:59:25,467 --> 00:59:26,533</time>
<s>涉及犯罪的这个</s>
<time>1334_00:59:27,233 --> 00:59:29,667</time>
<s>啊是否有有这个询私的这些情况</s>
<time>1335_00:59:30,033 --> 00:59:31,767</time>
<s>是否从重处理的这个情况</s>
<time>1336_00:59:32,467 --> 00:59:34,233</time>
<s>邢么我们认为对干这个</s>
<time>1337_00:59:34,933 --> 00:59:37,733</time>
<s>啊问题与这个本案韦光萍的这个事实</s>
<time>1338_00:59:38,067 --> 00:59:38,767</time>
<s>啊没有关</s>
<time>1339_00:59:40,867 --> 00:59:41,567</time>
<s>公诉人继续举证</s>
<time>1340_00:59:43,333 --> 00:59:44,733</time>
<s>下面接着列举是这个</s>
<time>1341_00:59:45,767 --> 00:59:46,833</time>
<s>被告人的供述与辩解</s>
<time>1342_00:59:47,867 --> 00:59:48,567</time>
<s>邢么首先宣读</s>
<time>1343_00:59:48,933 --> 00:59:50,667</time>
<s>这个同案的王嘉宏的供述</s>
<time>1344_00:59:51,733 --> 00:59:54,533</time>
<s>邢么王嘉宏主要供述啊</s>
<time>1345_00:59:54,867 --> 00:59:57,333</time>
<s>这个州中医院属差额拔款事业单位</s>
<time>1346_00:59:58,033 --> 01:00:01,167</time>
<s>邢么期间他是任这个财务科的负责人</s>
<time>1347_01:00:03,267 --> 01:00:05,733</time>
<s>邢么在其任这个负责人至今</s>
<time>1348_01:00:06,433 --> 01:00:07,833</time>
<s>医院的财务状况不是很好</s>
<time>1349_01:00:08,167 --> 01:00:09,567</time>
<s>基本处干这个亏损状况</s>
<time>1350_01:00:10,967 --> 01:00:13,433</time>
<s>截止目前医院负债是4.3亿左右</s>
<time>1351_01:00:14,133 --> 01:00:14,467</time>
<s>个人认为</s>
<time>1352_01:00:14,833 --> 01:00:16,933</time>
<s>造成这种亏损状态的主要原因</s>
<time>1353_01:00:17,633 --> 01:00:19,367</time>
<s>一是医院盲目扩展业务</s>
<time>1354_01:00:20,067 --> 01:00:21,833</time>
<s>二是盲目购置医疗设备</s>
<time>1355_01:00:22,867 --> 01:00:24,267</time>
<s>三是医院增加人员多</s>
<time>1356_01:00:24,633 --> 01:00:25,333</time>
<s>把关不严</s>
<time>1357_01:00:25,667 --> 01:00:26,733</time>
<s>人员机构臃肿</s>
<time>1358_01:00:27,767 --> 01:00:29,167</time>
<s>四是医院盲目扩建</s>
<time>1359_01:00:30,933 --> 01:00:33,033</time>
<s>那么医院的财务状况在搬迁之前</s>
<time>1360_01:00:33,367 --> 01:00:34,767</time>
<s>有3，000多万的这个债务</s>
<time>1361_01:00:35,833 --> 01:00:37,933</time>
<s>主要是银行贷款和应付的账款</s>
<time>1362_01:00:38,967 --> 01:00:41,767</time>
<s>在09年新医院动工以后资金比较紧张</s>
<time>1363_01:00:42,833 --> 01:00:44,233</time>
<s>12年搬到新址后</s>
<time>1364_01:00:44,567 --> 01:00:47,733</time>
<s>资金缺口达大概5,000万左右</s>
<time>1365_01:00:48,067 --> 01:00:48,767</time>
<s>负债1个亿</s>
<time>1366_01:00:49,833 --> 01:00:50,533</time>
<s>从10年到</s>
<time>1367_01:00:51,567 --> 01:00:55,067</time>
<s>15年底医院为7化解债务和拓展业务</s>
<time>1368_01:00:55,433 --> 01:00:56,133</time>
<s>采取</s>
<time>1369_01:00:57,533 --> 01:00:58,933</time>
<s>四种方式来进行筹款</s>
<time>1370_01:00:59,267 --> 01:01:00,667</time>
<s>一是筝取国家补助</s>
<time>1371_01:01:01,367 --> 01:01:02,433</time>
<s>二是银行贷款</s>
<time>1372_01:01:03,133 --> 01:01:05,233</time>
<s>三是向融资公司融资</s>
<time>1373_01:01:05,567 --> 01:01:06,967</time>
<s>四是向民间融资</s>
<time>1374_01:01:08,733 --> 01:01:10,467</time>
<s>关干民间融资其供述</s>
<time>1375_01:01:10,833 --> 01:01:14,667</time>
<s>2010年底啊韦光萍跟其说医院资金紧缺</s>
<time>1376_01:01:15,367 --> 01:01:17,467</time>
<s>决定向民间借贷引入社会资本</s>
<time>1377_01:01:18,867 --> 01:01:20,633</time>
<s>后来医院召开一次院长办公会</s>
<time>1378_01:01:21,333 --> 01:01:23,767</time>
<s>会上其介绍了医院念体财务状况</s>
<time>1379_01:01:24,133 --> 01:01:25,533</time>
<s>和医院资金紧缺的现状</s>
<time>1380_01:01:26,567 --> 01:01:27,967</time>
<s>介绍完之后就离开了</s>
<time>1381_01:01:29,033 --> 01:01:30,067</time>
<s>会议结束之后</s>
<time>1382_01:01:31,467 --> 01:01:33,233</time>
<s>院长韦光萍就口头告诉他</s>
<time>1383_01:01:33,567 --> 01:01:34,633</time>
<s>可以向民间借贷</s>
<time>1384_01:01:36,033 --> 01:01:37,767</time>
<s>2010年底到2016年</s>
<time>1385_01:01:39,533 --> 01:01:40,233</time>
<s>医院共向</s>
<time>1386_01:01:41,267 --> 01:01:42,333</time>
<s>私人借贷约2亿元</s>
<time>1387_01:01:43,033 --> 01:01:44,433</time>
<s>共支付的融资费用</s>
<time>1388_01:01:45,467 --> 01:01:46,533</time>
<s>约8,000多万元</s>
<time>1389_01:01:47,567 --> 01:01:48,967</time>
<s>因为有出借人</s>
<time>1390_01:01:49,333 --> 01:01:50,733</time>
<s>担心这个费率过高</s>
<time>1391_01:01:51,067 --> 01:01:52,133</time>
<s>不符合国家规定的</s>
<time>1392_01:01:52,467 --> 01:01:54,233</time>
<s>不超过基准利率的4倍</s>
<time>1393_01:01:55,267 --> 01:01:58,433</time>
<s>就提出用担保费的名义转移支什</s>
<time>1394_01:01:59,467 --> 01:02:01,933</time>
<s>韦光萍之前知道其侄儿</s>
<time>1395_01:02:02,633 --> 01:02:03,333</time>
<s>儿陈刚</s>
<time>1396_01:02:03,667 --> 01:02:05,767</time>
<s>做了医院的这个电脑耗材的供应</s>
<time>1397_01:02:06,833 --> 01:02:07,867</time>
<s>就跟他说能否让</s>
<time>1398_01:02:08,233 --> 01:02:10,333</time>
<s>陈刚用电脑进一步作为担保方</s>
<time>1399_01:02:12,067 --> 01:02:13,467</time>
<s>后来他跟陈刚说了之后</s>
<time>1400_01:02:14,533 --> 01:02:15,233</time>
<s>陈刚与医院</s>
<time>1401_01:02:15,567 --> 01:02:18,033</time>
<s>签订了这个医院担保的这个相关协议</s>
<time>1402_01:02:20,133 --> 01:02:21,167</time>
<s>邢么同时证实</s>
<time>1403_01:02:21,867 --> 01:02:22,933</time>
<s>在借款的过程当中</s>
<time>1404_01:02:23,633 --> 01:02:24,667</time>
<s>50万元以下的</s>
<time>1405_01:02:25,367 --> 01:02:27,133</time>
<s>由其负责与借款人洽谈</s>
<time>1406_01:02:27,833 --> 01:02:30,967</time>
<s>并向院长汇报同意之后签订合同</s>
<time>1407_01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:32,733</time>
<s>50万元以上的</s>
<time>1408_01:02:33,067 --> 01:02:36,233</time>
<s>由他本人和院长一起与出借人洽谈</s>
<time>1409_01:02:37,633 --> 01:02:40,767</time>
<s>均按照月利率3%到6%来计算</s>
<time>1410_01:02:41,467 --> 01:02:44,267</time>
<s>超过国家规定基准利率的4倍的部分</s>
<time>1411_01:02:47,433 --> 01:02:49,533</time>
<s>以这个担保费的这形式支出</s>
<time>1412_01:02:50,567 --> 01:02:51,633</time>
<s>邢么共向民间借贷</s>
<time>1413_01:02:53,367 --> 01:02:56,533</time>
<s>2亿元超出支付的利息大概是3，000多万</s>
<time>1414_01:03:01,067 --> 01:03:01,767</time>
<s>邢么针对这个</s>
<time>1415_01:03:02,133 --> 01:03:04,933</time>
<s>2010年10月20号的这个会议纪要</s>
<time>1416_01:03:05,967 --> 01:03:07,033</time>
<s>邢么王嘉宏称</s>
<time>1417_01:03:08,067 --> 01:03:10,167</time>
<s>该会议纪要是2013年下半年</s>
<time>1418_01:03:10,533 --> 01:03:12,267</time>
<s>省卫生厅来检查的时候</s>
<time>1419_01:03:13,333 --> 01:03:16,133</time>
<s>反馈医院向民间借贷没有相关依据</s>
<time>1420_01:03:16,467 --> 01:03:17,533</time>
<s>要求及时整改</s>
<time>1421_01:03:20,667 --> 01:03:21,367</time>
<s>院长韦光萍</s>
<time>1422_01:03:21,733 --> 01:03:23,833</time>
<s>就让其补7这一份会议纪要</s>
<time>1423_01:03:24,867 --> 01:03:26,267</time>
<s>那么会议纪要的前半部分</s>
<time>1424_01:03:26,633 --> 01:03:28,033</time>
<s>关干医医院财务状况</s>
<time>1425_01:03:28,367 --> 01:03:29,433</time>
<s>是他本人写的</s>
<time>1426_01:03:30,833 --> 01:03:33,267</time>
<s>后半部分关干向民间借贷的具体方式</s>
<time>1427_01:03:33,633 --> 01:03:34,667</time>
<s>利息范围等情况</s>
<time>1428_01:03:35,033 --> 01:03:37,467</time>
<s>是按照院长韦光萍的意思草拟的</s>
<time>1429_01:03:39,233 --> 01:03:39,933</time>
<s>当时为7</s>
<time>1430_01:03:40,633 --> 01:03:42,733</time>
<s>让这个民间借贷的利率范围有</s>
<time>1431_01:03:43,067 --> 01:03:43,433</time>
<s>相关依据</s>
<time>1432_01:03:44,467 --> 01:03:45,167</time>
<s>韦光萍还要求</s>
<time>1433_01:03:45,533 --> 01:03:46,933</time>
<s>在这一次会议纪要当中</s>
<time>1434_01:03:47,267 --> 01:03:50,767</time>
<s>加入73%到6%月利率的这个范围</s>
<time>1435_01:03:51,833 --> 01:03:53,933</time>
<s>邢么该会议纪要草拟好了之后</s>
<time>1436_01:03:54,267 --> 01:03:55,333</time>
<s>就由办公室盖章</s>
<time>1437_01:03:57,067 --> 01:03:59,867</time>
<s>邢么到72014年医院等级评审的时候</s>
<time>1438_01:04:00,933 --> 01:04:02,667</time>
<s>邢么评审组认为该会议纪要</s>
<time>1439_01:04:03,033 --> 01:04:03,733</time>
<s>不符合规范</s>
<time>1440_01:04:04,433 --> 01:04:06,867</time>
<s>就让院办公室按照10年</s>
<time>1441_01:04:07,567 --> 01:04:09,333</time>
<s>应该参加院长办公会的人员</s>
<time>1442_01:04:09,667 --> 01:04:10,733</time>
<s>加上7参会的人员</s>
<time>1443_01:04:12,833 --> 01:04:15,267</time>
<s>邢么请法庭组织对王嘉宏的供述进行</s>
<time>1444_01:04:15,633 --> 01:04:15,967</time>
<s>质证</s>
<time>1445_01:04:16,667 --> 01:04:17,367</time>
<s>被告韦光萍</s>
<time>1446_01:04:17,733 --> 01:04:19,133</time>
<s>对刚大公诉人所列举的</s>
<time>1447_01:04:19,833 --> 01:04:21,567</time>
<s>另案处理的王嘉宏的供述</s>
<time>1448_01:04:21,933 --> 01:04:22,633</time>
<s>有什么意见</s>
<time>1449_01:04:23,333 --> 01:04:27,167</time>
<s>对他对医院的财务状况的说明</s>
<time>1450_01:04:27,867 --> 01:04:28,933</time>
<s>是真实的</s>
<time>1451_01:04:29,633 --> 01:04:31,367</time>
<s>其他的情况都不属实</s>
<time>1452_01:04:33,467 --> 01:04:34,867</time>
<s>财务状况的说明是真实的</s>
<time>1453_01:04:35,233 --> 01:04:35,933</time>
<s>对其他说明</s>
<time>1454_01:04:36,633 --> 01:04:38,033</time>
<s>其他说明的跟你</s>
<time>1455_01:04:38,733 --> 01:04:39,433</time>
<s>相关的约定</s>
<time>1456_01:04:40,133 --> 01:04:41,867</time>
<s>借款的这些情况都不属实是吧都不属实</s>
<time>1457_01:04:43,267 --> 01:04:45,033</time>
<s>好辩护人发表质证意见</s>
<time>1458_01:04:47,133 --> 01:04:48,533</time>
<s>刚书通过这个</s>
<time>1459_01:04:49,567 --> 01:04:52,033</time>
<s>所举证的这个证据材料</s>
<time>1460_01:04:52,733 --> 01:04:54,133</time>
<s>请法庭特别注意一下这个</s>
<time>1461_01:04:54,833 --> 01:04:55,167</time>
<s>这是</s>
<time>1462_01:04:56,233 --> 01:04:57,633</time>
<s>这个在三卷里边</s>
<time>1463_01:04:57,967 --> 01:05:00,433</time>
<s>这个王家宏的这个供述</s>
<time>1464_01:05:01,467 --> 01:05:03,233</time>
<s>我认为对干他本人来讲呢</s>
<time>1465_01:05:03,567 --> 01:05:04,967</time>
<s>他讲了一个客观的理由</s>
<time>1466_01:05:05,333 --> 01:05:08,133</time>
<s>就是刚大我们讲的在卷五中间是否上</s>
<time>1467_01:05:08,833 --> 01:05:09,167</time>
<s>院长办公会</s>
<time>1468_01:05:09,867 --> 01:05:11,633</time>
<s>邢么作为王家宏讲到</s>
<time>1469_01:05:12,333 --> 01:05:15,467</time>
<s>他确实参加了院长办公会的前一段</s>
<time>1470_01:05:16,167 --> 01:05:17,233</time>
<s>介绍的情况以后</s>
<time>1471_01:05:17,933 --> 01:05:18,267</time>
<s>他离开的</s>
<time>1472_01:05:18,633 --> 01:05:21,767</time>
<s>邢么也就证实就是在集体计论是否向</s>
<time>1473_01:05:22,467 --> 01:05:23,867</time>
<s>社会举债的问题上</s>
<time>1474_01:05:24,567 --> 01:05:26,667</time>
<s>却有这个客观事实的存在</s>
<time>1475_01:05:27,733 --> 01:05:28,767</time>
<s>这是我说的第一个问题</s>
<time>1476_01:05:29,133 --> 01:05:32,267</time>
<s>第二个问题就对干他本人所讲的</s>
<time>1477_01:05:33,333 --> 01:05:34,033</time>
<s>之所以</s>
<time>1478_01:05:35,067 --> 01:05:37,167</time>
<s>医院会举这么多的债</s>
<time>1479_01:05:37,867 --> 01:05:39,633</time>
<s>到底什么原因所提出来的问题</s>
<time>1480_01:05:39,967 --> 01:05:40,667</time>
<s>说是因为是</s>
<time>1481_01:05:41,733 --> 01:05:43,133</time>
<s>盲目的扩张</s>
<time>1482_01:05:43,467 --> 01:05:44,867</time>
<s>领导决策失误等等</s>
<time>1483_01:05:45,567 --> 01:05:48,033</time>
<s>作为辩护人认为这是不对的</s>
<time>1484_01:05:48,367 --> 01:05:49,433</time>
<s>也是不正确的</s>
<time>1485_01:05:49,767 --> 01:05:50,467</time>
<s>因为医院</s>
<time>1486_01:05:51,167 --> 01:05:55,033</time>
<s>文山州中医院从2009年4月份开始迁建</s>
<time>1487_01:05:56,767 --> 01:06:01,333</time>
<s>到2012年迁建完毕的搬迁到2014年</s>
<time>1488_01:06:02,033 --> 01:06:05,533</time>
<s>平稳文山文山州第一家</s>
<time>1489_01:06:06,233 --> 01:06:07,267</time>
<s>三甲医院</s>
<time>1490_01:06:07,967 --> 01:06:09,033</time>
<s>邢么在这个过程中呢</s>
<time>1491_01:06:09,367 --> 01:06:12,867</time>
<s>对三甲医院的评审评定他有人员</s>
<time>1492_01:06:13,567 --> 01:06:16,033</time>
<s>他有设备等等的</s>
<time>1493_01:06:17,433 --> 01:06:18,833</time>
<s>一定要求</s>
<time>1494_01:06:19,533 --> 01:06:22,333</time>
<s>所以并不是说医院领导决策失误</s>
<time>1495_01:06:22,667 --> 01:06:23,367</time>
<s>盲目扩张</s>
<time>1496_01:06:24,433 --> 01:06:25,833</time>
<s>导致医院举债</s>
<time>1497_01:06:26,533 --> 01:06:29,333</time>
<s>是迁建中间在评审过程中</s>
<time>1498_01:06:29,667 --> 01:06:31,067</time>
<s>他必须增加的人员</s>
<time>1499_01:06:31,433 --> 01:06:32,133</time>
<s>设备等等</s>
<time>1500_01:06:32,833 --> 01:06:33,533</time>
<s>所以这个设备</s>
<time>1501_01:06:33,867 --> 01:06:36,667</time>
<s>资金呢是属干正常的借贷的范围</s>
<time>1502_01:06:38,067 --> 01:06:40,867</time>
<s>那么第三个问题就是作为务负责人</s>
<time>1503_01:06:41,567 --> 01:06:46,133</time>
<s>对王家宏在这个里边他为了谋私利</s>
<time>1504_01:06:47,167 --> 01:06:47,867</time>
<s>是陈刚</s>
<time>1505_01:06:48,233 --> 01:06:50,333</time>
<s>周厚军跟李佳兰</s>
<time>1506_01:06:51,033 --> 01:06:54,867</time>
<s>他们的资金通过银行借款转贷给医院</s>
<time>1507_01:06:55,567 --> 01:06:58,733</time>
<s>在里边非法获利1,000多万的利息</s>
<time>1508_01:06:59,067 --> 01:07:00,833</time>
<s>他本人自己供述</s>
<time>1509_01:07:01,167 --> 01:07:03,967</time>
<s>他获得370多万元的利息</s>
<time>1510_01:07:05,367 --> 01:07:09,233</time>
<s>这种责任强加给被告人韦光萍承担</s>
<time>1511_01:07:09,567 --> 01:07:11,333</time>
<s>我认为这个是不恰当的请法庭</s>
<time>1512_01:07:11,667 --> 01:07:12,367</time>
<s>特别注意这个情节</s>
<time>1513_01:07:12,733 --> 01:07:13,067</time>
<s>完了谢谢</s>
<time>1514_01:07:14,467 --> 01:07:15,867</time>
<s>由公诉人进行说明</s>
<time>1515_01:07:16,567 --> 01:07:17,633</time>
<s>简单的说明一点就是</s>
<time>1516_01:07:18,333 --> 01:07:19,033</time>
<s>随后还要</s>
<time>1517_01:07:19,367 --> 01:07:21,833</time>
<s>继续列举韦光萍在调查期间的供述</s>
<time>1518_01:07:22,167 --> 01:07:22,867</time>
<s>来子以印证</s>
<time>1519_01:07:23,567 --> 01:07:24,267</time>
<s>邢么第二一点</s>
<time>1520_01:07:24,633 --> 01:07:26,367</time>
<s>关干这个上会的这个情况</s>
<time>1521_01:07:26,733 --> 01:07:29,533</time>
<s>那么刚大在质证相关医院领导班子的</s>
<time>1522_01:07:29,867 --> 01:07:31,633</time>
<s>这个证据的过程当中</s>
<time>1523_01:07:31,967 --> 01:07:33,367</time>
<s>公诉人就已经提到过</s>
<time>1524_01:07:34,433 --> 01:07:35,467</time>
<s>那么关干上会这个问题</s>
<time>1525_01:07:35,833 --> 01:07:37,933</time>
<s>那么实质上只是进行通报</s>
<time>1526_01:07:38,267 --> 01:07:40,733</time>
<s>并非进行集体决策来啊</s>
<time>1527_01:07:41,067 --> 01:07:42,833</time>
<s>来决定向民间借贷</s>
<time>1528_01:07:43,867 --> 01:07:45,967</time>
<s>而且当庭被告人韦光萍也提到</s>
<time>1529_01:07:46,667 --> 01:07:49,833</time>
<s>邢么其决定向民间借贷的时候是2009年</s>
<time>1530_01:07:50,533 --> 01:07:52,267</time>
<s>年底就已经开始</s>
<time>1531_01:07:53,333 --> 01:07:54,033</time>
<s>向民间借贷</s>
<time>1532_01:07:54,733 --> 01:07:57,533</time>
<s>而相关上会的内容是到72010年</s>
<time>1533_01:07:58,233 --> 01:07:59,267</time>
<s>书进行一个通报</s>
<time>1534_01:07:59,967 --> 01:08:01,033</time>
<s>所以我们认为这个是完全</s>
<time>1535_01:08:01,367 --> 01:08:02,433</time>
<s>不同的两个概念</s>
<time>1536_01:08:03,467 --> 01:08:05,933</time>
<s>那么第三一点就是涉及到王家宏</s>
<time>1537_01:08:06,267 --> 01:08:08,733</time>
<s>邢么其本人是否寻私利</s>
<time>1538_01:08:09,767 --> 01:08:10,833</time>
<s>啊进行这个借款</s>
<time>1539_01:08:11,533 --> 01:08:12,233</time>
<s>邢么我们认为</s>
<time>1540_01:08:12,567 --> 01:08:15,367</time>
<s>相关的借款合同都要经过院长</s>
<time>1541_01:08:16,067 --> 01:08:19,567</time>
<s>韦光萍来进行审核签批</s>
<time>1542_01:08:22,367 --> 01:08:22,733</time>
<s>所以在</s>
<time>1543_01:08:23,067 --> 01:08:25,533</time>
<s>都是在这个韦光萍同意的情况下</s>
<time>1544_01:08:25,867 --> 01:08:27,267</time>
<s>邢么女进行的相关借款</s>
<time>1545_01:08:27,967 --> 01:08:29,033</time>
<s>所以我们认为这个</s>
<time>1546_01:08:29,733 --> 01:08:31,133</time>
<s>王家宏狗私利的这个问题</s>
<time>1547_01:08:31,467 --> 01:08:35,333</time>
<s>那么呕只涉及他本人的这个呕</s>
<time>1548_01:08:36,367 --> 01:08:37,067</time>
<s>量刑的这个</s>
<time>1549_01:08:38,133 --> 01:08:40,933</time>
<s>问题邢么与这个韦光萍的这个呢</s>
<time>1550_01:08:41,267 --> 01:08:42,667</time>
<s>关联性没有关联性</s>
<time>1551_01:08:45,467 --> 01:08:48,267</time>
<s>哦你韦光萍你举手是要说明什么啊</s>
<time>1552_01:08:48,633 --> 01:08:50,367</time>
<s>就刚书公诉人说的</s>
<time>1553_01:08:50,733 --> 01:08:52,467</time>
<s>09年就发生7第一次借贷</s>
<time>1554_01:08:53,167 --> 01:08:54,567</time>
<s>那就是09年年底的时候</s>
<time>1555_01:08:54,933 --> 01:08:55,633</time>
<s>发生第一次借贷</s>
<time>1556_01:08:55,967 --> 01:08:57,733</time>
<s>50万这个是呢</s>
<time>1557_01:08:58,433 --> 01:09:01,933</time>
<s>是王家宏先行借贷之后再给我汇报的</s>
<time>1558_01:09:02,267 --> 01:09:04,733</time>
<s>所以书有2010年呢</s>
<time>1559_01:09:05,067 --> 01:09:09,967</time>
<s>就是通过办公会计论通报的这个情形</s>
<time>1560_01:09:12,067 --> 01:09:13,467</time>
<s>这个问题在法庭辩论的时候</s>
<time>1561_01:09:13,833 --> 01:09:15,233</time>
<s>公诉人再进行说明的啊</s>
<time>1562_01:09:15,567 --> 01:09:16,633</time>
<s>公诉人继续举证</s>
<time>1563_01:09:17,667 --> 01:09:18,733</time>
<s>邢接着列举被告人</s>
<time>1564_01:09:19,067 --> 01:09:21,167</time>
<s>韦光萍在调查期间的供述与辩解</s>
<time>1565_01:09:22,233 --> 01:09:25,367</time>
<s>邢么其供述在2006年10月29日</s>
<time>1566_01:09:25,733 --> 01:09:27,133</time>
<s>任州中医院的院长</s>
<time>1567_01:09:28,167 --> 01:09:30,633</time>
<s>负责医院全面的这个行政工作</s>
<time>1568_01:09:31,333 --> 01:09:33,767</time>
<s>州中医院属财政差额拔款事业单位</s>
<time>1569_01:09:34,833 --> 01:09:35,867</time>
<s>其接手中医院后</s>
<time>1570_01:09:36,233 --> 01:09:38,667</time>
<s>医院念资产大概在3，400万左右</s>
<time>1571_01:09:39,367 --> 01:09:41,133</time>
<s>负债也超过3，400万</s>
<time>1572_01:09:41,833 --> 01:09:43,567</time>
<s>医院资金支出程序</s>
<time>1573_01:09:43,933 --> 01:09:45,667</time>
<s>在其不直接分管财务后</s>
<time>1574_01:09:46,367 --> 01:09:46,733</time>
<s>只需报</s>
<time>1575_01:09:47,067 --> 01:09:49,167</time>
<s>报到这个分管务的副院长签批</s>
<time>1576_01:09:49,533 --> 01:09:50,233</time>
<s>就可以7</s>
<time>1577_01:09:50,933 --> 01:09:53,033</time>
<s>但遇到医院资金大额支出时</s>
<time>1578_01:09:53,367 --> 01:09:55,833</time>
<s>还是需要提交院长办公会计论决策</s>
<time>1579_01:09:57,567 --> 01:09:58,967</time>
<s>提到州中医院任职以后</s>
<time>1580_01:09:59,333 --> 01:10:00,733</time>
<s>首先是业务量提升</s>
<time>1581_01:10:01,433 --> 01:10:03,867</time>
<s>出院人次从06年的2，000多人次</s>
<time>1582_01:10:04,233 --> 01:10:06,333</time>
<s>增加到17年的11,000人次，</s>
<time>1583_01:10:07,367 --> 01:10:09,833</time>
<s>门诊人次从06年的6万多人次</s>
<time>1584_01:10:10,167 --> 01:10:12,633</time>
<s>增长到17年的底30万人次</s>
<time>1585_01:10:13,333 --> 01:10:15,067</time>
<s>念收入从06年</s>
<time>1586_01:10:15,767 --> 01:10:20,333</time>
<s>的1,610万左右增长到17年的1:46亿</s>
<time>1587_01:10:21,033 --> 01:10:22,767</time>
<s>念体经济效盆越来越好</s>
<time>1588_01:10:23,833 --> 01:10:25,233</time>
<s>医院资产大概5亿多</s>
<time>1589_01:10:26,267 --> 01:10:29,067</time>
<s>但医院财务状况都处干负债状况</s>
<time>1590_01:10:29,767 --> 01:10:31,533</time>
<s>现在负债有4亿多元</s>
<time>1591_01:10:32,233 --> 01:10:33,967</time>
<s>其认为造成负债的主要原因</s>
<time>1592_01:10:34,667 --> 01:10:36,067</time>
<s>一是医院扩展业务</s>
<time>1593_01:10:36,433 --> 01:10:38,167</time>
<s>扩大规模举债建设</s>
<time>1594_01:10:39,233 --> 01:10:40,967</time>
<s>二是政府在医院建设方面</s>
<time>1595_01:10:41,333 --> 01:10:42,033</time>
<s>补助资金不足</s>
<time>1596_01:10:42,733 --> 01:10:44,133</time>
<s>三是医院业务量增大</s>
<time>1597_01:10:44,467 --> 01:10:45,533</time>
<s>医疗成本增加</s>
<time>1598_01:10:46,567 --> 01:10:47,633</time>
<s>邢么在07年</s>
<time>1599_01:10:48,667 --> 01:10:51,833</time>
<s>国家有相关中医院建设扶持项目之后</s>
<time>1600_01:10:52,533 --> 01:10:55,667</time>
<s>邢么州中医院获得扶持资金1550万元</s>
<time>1601_01:10:56,733 --> 01:10:58,467</time>
<s>省级配套资金550万</s>
