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<s>请原告小米科技公司</s>
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<s>陈述诉讼请求并简要陈述事实和理由</s>
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<s>诉讼请求</s>
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<s>一判令被告在其新浪微博***</s>
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<s>主页置顶位置</s>
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<s>以与其他正文字号相同的方式</s>
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<s>连续30日刊登致歉声明</s>
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<s>消除影响</s>
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<s>二判令被告在</s>
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<s>新浪财经头条***主页置顶位置</s>
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<s>以与其他正文字号相同的方式</s>
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<s>连续30日</s>
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<s>刊登致歉声明</s>
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<s>消除影响</s>
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<s>三判令被告赔偿原告经济损失</s>
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<s>及合理支出100万元</s>
<time>38_00:01:21,233 --> 00:01:24,033</time>
<s>四判令被告承担本案的全部诉讼费用</s>
<time>39_00:01:24,733 --> 00:01:25,767</time>
<s>被告在微博</s>
<time>40_00:01:26,133 --> 00:01:28,567</time>
<s>等平台上多次恶意发布不实内容</s>
<time>41_00:01:28,933 --> 00:01:31,733</time>
<s>实施了针对小米名誉权的侵权行为</s>
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<s>被告张**在</s>
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<s>新浪微博平台注册有个人主页</s>
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<s>用户昵称为***</s>
<time>45_00:01:39,067 --> 00:01:41,867</time>
<s>其微博认证为知名数码博主</s>
<time>46_00:01:42,233 --> 00:01:43,633</time>
<s>标签为视频自媒体等</s>
<time>47_00:01:43,967 --> 00:01:45,733</time>
<s>简介为数码爱好者</s>
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<s>粉丝量达39万</s>
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<s>一被告发布了小米电视燃烧相关内容</s>
<time>50_00:01:52,033 --> 00:01:55,167</time>
<s>2020年6月9日15时至16:55</s>
<time>51_00:01:55,867 --> 00:01:57,267</time>
<s>案外人重庆天极**科技有限公司</s>
<time>52_00:01:57,633 --> 00:02:00,067</time>
<s>进行了一场名为</s>
<time>53_00:02:00,433 --> 00:02:02,167</time>
<s>一场真正的专业拆机</s>
<time>54_00:02:02,867 --> 00:02:03,233</time>
<s>某品牌</s>
<time>55_00:02:03,567 --> 00:02:06,367</time>
<s>对比小米电视的智能电视直播测评</s>
<time>56_00:02:06,733 --> 00:02:09,867</time>
<s>对小米4a和某品牌电视的电视后盖</s>
<time>57_00:02:10,233 --> 00:02:11,967</time>
<s>也就是咱们说的电视背板</s>
<time>58_00:02:12,333 --> 00:02:15,133</time>
<s>进行了火焰喷射的阻燃测试</s>
<time>59_00:02:15,467 --> 00:02:18,633</time>
<s>实验人员对小米电视4a的喇叭后和</s>
<time>60_00:02:19,333 --> 00:02:22,833</time>
<s>缩边未端进行了约18秒的火焰喷射</s>
<time>61_00:02:23,167 --> 00:02:25,633</time>
<s>另一名工作人员对另一品牌电视的面积</s>
<time>62_00:02:25,967 --> 00:02:27,367</time>
<s>约为小米面板</s>
<time>63_00:02:27,733 --> 00:02:28,767</time>
<s>两至三倍的面板</s>
<time>64_00:02:29,133 --> 00:02:31,233</time>
<s>进行了约12秒的火焰喷射</s>
<time>65_00:02:31,567 --> 00:02:34,367</time>
<s>实验结果为小米后盖起火燃烧</s>
<time>66_00:02:34,733 --> 00:02:36,833</time>
<s>而另一品牌后盖未燃烧</s>
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<s>被告张**在</s>
<time>68_00:02:39,967 --> 00:02:43,133</time>
<s>2020年6月9日16:57</s>
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<s>也就是上述视频发布后</s>
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<s>直播后的2分钟之后</s>
<time>71_00:02:47,333 --> 00:02:48,033</time>
<s>在***</s>
<time>72_00:02:48,367 --> 00:02:49,067</time>
<s>微博账号上</s>
<time>73_00:02:49,433 --> 00:02:51,167</time>
<s>发布了上述部分直播视频</s>
<time>74_00:02:51,867 --> 00:02:55,367</time>
<s>并配以文字称**网太会玩了</s>
<time>75_00:02:55,733 --> 00:02:57,133</time>
<s>直接火烧背板</s>
<time>76_00:02:57,833 --> 00:02:59,567</time>
<s>小米电视轻松点着</s>
<time>77_00:03:00,267 --> 00:03:02,367</time>
<s>某电视燃了半天没啥反应</s>
<time>78_00:03:02,733 --> 00:03:03,767</time>
<s>一定是火的原因</s>
<time>79_00:03:04,133 --> 00:03:05,533</time>
<s>的微博内容</s>
<time>80_00:03:05,867 --> 00:03:07,633</time>
<s>引起了其他微博用户</s>
<time>81_00:03:07,967 --> 00:03:10,767</time>
<s>发表例如阻燃材料都能偷工减料</s>
<time>82_00:03:11,133 --> 00:03:12,867</time>
<s>家电塑料必须要阻燃的</s>
<time>83_00:03:13,233 --> 00:03:16,033</time>
<s>味良心关键时刻我米还能当材用</s>
<time>84_00:03:16,367 --> 00:03:18,833</time>
<s>你敢烧我小米就敢着一点就着</s>
<time>85_00:03:19,167 --> 00:03:20,567</time>
<s>这样的电器怕是雷击短路</s>
<time>86_00:03:20,933 --> 00:03:22,333</time>
<s>发热都有火灾隐患</s>
<time>87_00:03:23,033 --> 00:03:24,767</time>
<s>买电视送可燃电板</s>
<time>88_00:03:25,133 --> 00:03:26,867</time>
<s>某厂不愧是良心大厂</s>
<time>89_00:03:27,233 --> 00:03:28,967</time>
<s>等大量影响原告的评论</s>
<time>90_00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:31,433</time>
<s>被告张**发布的该条微博</s>
<time>91_00:03:31,767 --> 00:03:34,567</time>
<s>转发评论和点赞量数量极大</s>
<time>92_00:03:35,967 --> 00:03:40,533</time>
<s>被告张**于2020年8月19日13:41在***</s>
<time>93_00:03:40,867 --> 00:03:41,933</time>
<s>微博账户发布</s>
<time>94_00:03:42,267 --> 00:03:42,967</time>
<s>内容称</s>
<time>95_00:03:43,333 --> 00:03:45,767</time>
<s>小米10至尊纪念版刚开售才几天</s>
<time>96_00:03:46,133 --> 00:03:49,267</time>
<s>东东的好评率就已经掉到了95%</s>
<time>97_00:03:49,633 --> 00:03:52,067</time>
<s>并且附图京东plus用户的评论</s>
<time>98_00:03:55,567 --> 00:03:58,367</time>
<s>然后评论时间为2020年8月17日</s>
<time>99_00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:01,867</time>
<s>评论内容为用了一礼拜死机了七八次</s>
<time>100_00:04:02,233 --> 00:04:04,333</time>
<s>玩手机发烫起码50摄氏度</s>
<time>101_00:04:04,667 --> 00:04:05,733</time>
<s>耗电量也很快</s>
<time>102_00:04:06,067 --> 00:04:08,533</time>
<s>两小时就没电等评论</s>
<time>103_00:04:08,867 --> 00:04:10,633</time>
<s>引起的其他微博用户</s>
<time>104_00:04:10,967 --> 00:04:12,367</time>
<s>他的好评还会继续掉</s>
<time>105_00:04:12,733 --> 00:04:14,833</time>
<s>小米的产品也别要求太高</s>
<time>106_00:04:15,167 --> 00:04:17,967</time>
<s>还TM现在手机会死机等评论</s>
<time>107_00:04:18,333 --> 00:04:20,067</time>
<s>该条微博累计转发10余次</s>
<time>108_00:04:20,433 --> 00:04:22,167</time>
<s>评论80余次</s>
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<s>点赞100余次</s>
<time>110_00:04:23,933 --> 00:04:24,967</time>
<s>被告明知涉案</s>
<time>111_00:04:25,333 --> 00:04:28,833</time>
<s>手机的首发时间在2020年8月16日</s>
<time>112_00:04:29,533 --> 00:04:32,333</time>
<s>截图评价显然不属实的情况下</s>
<time>113_00:04:32,667 --> 00:04:34,767</time>
<s>还恶意发布了京东用户</s>
<time>114_00:04:35,133 --> 00:04:37,233</time>
<s>用了一礼拜等等虚假评论</s>
<time>115_00:04:37,567 --> 00:04:38,967</time>
<s>引得大量粉丝沸沸扬扬</s>
<time>116_00:04:39,333 --> 00:04:41,067</time>
<s>质疑小米新机的质量</s>
<time>117_00:04:41,767 --> 00:04:42,467</time>
<s>原告认为</s>
<time>118_00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,567</time>
<s>被告作为知名数码博主</s>
<time>119_00:04:45,267 --> 00:04:47,033</time>
<s>对于电子数码领域的认知度和</s>
<time>120_00:04:47,367 --> 00:04:48,067</time>
<s>判断能力</s>
<time>121_00:04:48,433 --> 00:04:49,467</time>
<s>超出一般大众</s>
<time>122_00:04:49,833 --> 00:04:50,533</time>
<s>其公开言论</s>
<time>123_00:04:50,867 --> 00:04:51,933</time>
<s>在电子数码领域</s>
<time>124_00:04:52,267 --> 00:04:54,033</time>
<s>也具有一定的地位的话语权</s>
<time>125_00:04:54,367 --> 00:04:54,733</time>
<s>和导向性</s>
<time>126_00:04:55,433 --> 00:04:57,533</time>
<s>被告并非网络普通用户</s>
<time>127_00:04:57,867 --> 00:04:58,567</time>
<s>应当对自身</s>
<time>128_00:04:58,933 --> 00:05:00,667</time>
<s>言论的引导性有一定的认知</s>
<time>129_00:05:01,367 --> 00:05:03,133</time>
<s>其公开言论应该受到更高</s>
<time>130_00:05:03,467 --> 00:05:03,833</time>
<s>注意义务的约束</s>
<time>131_00:05:04,867 --> 00:05:07,333</time>
<s>被告的行为未履行相关注意义务</s>
<time>132_00:05:07,667 --> 00:05:10,467</time>
<s>其偏向性的公开言论具有主观恶意</s>
<time>133_00:05:10,833 --> 00:05:12,567</time>
<s>捏造并散布了虚假信息</s>
<time>134_00:05:13,633 --> 00:05:15,367</time>
<s>简单说理一下攻方律师的主要观点</s>
<time>135_00:05:15,733 --> 00:05:17,133</time>
<s>第一小米品牌很知名</s>
<time>136_00:05:17,467 --> 00:05:18,867</time>
<s>社会评价极高第二</s>
<time>137_00:05:19,233 --> 00:05:21,333</time>
<s>被告在微博转发了小米电视</s>
<time>138_00:05:21,667 --> 00:05:22,033</time>
<s>被点燃的视频</s>
<time>139_00:05:22,367 --> 00:05:24,467</time>
<s>和京东用户对小米手机差评</s>
<time>140_00:05:25,167 --> 00:05:25,867</time>
<s>并进行了不当点评</s>
<time>141_00:05:26,567 --> 00:05:28,333</time>
<s>认为被告具有主观上的恶意</s>
<time>142_00:05:28,667 --> 00:05:30,433</time>
<s>构成了对小米名誉权的侵害</s>
<time>143_00:05:31,133 --> 00:05:32,167</time>
<s>攻方核心观点是</s>
<time>144_00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:33,233</time>
<s>被告不是普通人</s>
<time>145_00:05:33,567 --> 00:05:34,267</time>
<s>是网络大V</s>
<time>146_00:05:34,967 --> 00:05:36,033</time>
<s>所以呢在转发的时候</s>
<time>147_00:05:36,367 --> 00:05:39,167</time>
<s>未能很好的履行相关注意义务啊</s>
<time>148_00:05:39,867 --> 00:05:40,933</time>
<s>这个注意义务是个什么东西呢</s>
<time>149_00:05:41,267 --> 00:05:41,967</time>
<s>简单一点说</s>
<time>150_00:05:42,333 --> 00:05:44,067</time>
<s>就是在做出某种行为的时候</s>
<time>151_00:05:44,433 --> 00:05:46,167</time>
<s>应该预判到这个行为有可能</s>
<time>152_00:05:46,867 --> 00:05:47,933</time>
<s>会产生某种损害的后果</s>
<time>153_00:05:48,633 --> 00:05:49,333</time>
<s>这个注意义务啊</s>
<time>154_00:05:49,667 --> 00:05:51,767</time>
<s>在类似这种过失侵权的案子中</s>
<time>155_00:05:52,133 --> 00:05:52,833</time>
<s>是一个关键点</s>
<time>156_00:05:54,233 --> 00:05:58,067</time>
<s>下面请被告张**简要陈述你方的答辩意见</s>
<time>157_00:05:58,767 --> 00:06:00,167</time>
<s>好的尊敬的审判长</s>
<time>158_00:06:00,533 --> 00:06:00,867</time>
<s>审判员</s>
<time>159_00:06:01,567 --> 00:06:03,333</time>
<s>我们的核心答辩理由有四项</s>
<time>160_00:06:04,033 --> 00:06:06,133</time>
<s>主观上并没有侵犯原告权的主观</s>
<time>161_00:06:06,467 --> 00:06:07,167</time>
<s>故意和过失</s>
<time>162_00:06:07,533 --> 00:06:08,567</time>
<s>二客观上没有侵害</s>
<time>163_00:06:08,933 --> 00:06:10,667</time>
<s>小米公司名誉权的客观行为</s>
<time>164_00:06:12,067 --> 00:06:13,833</time>
<s>三原告当中部分诉讼请求</s>
<time>165_00:06:14,167 --> 00:06:16,633</time>
<s>已经在去年12月自主删除</s>
<time>166_00:06:16,967 --> 00:06:19,067</time>
<s>四原告并没有就其主张的损失</s>
<time>167_00:06:19,433 --> 00:06:20,467</time>
<s>提供相应的证据证明</s>
<time>168_00:06:20,833 --> 00:06:22,233</time>
<s>核心的理由如下第一</s>
<time>169_00:06:22,933 --> 00:06:24,333</time>
<s>在这里我们首先需要去明确</s>
<time>170_00:06:24,667 --> 00:06:25,367</time>
<s>本案的核心</s>
<time>171_00:06:25,733 --> 00:06:28,167</time>
<s>并不是在于有没有去侵犯他的一个</s>
<time>172_00:06:29,233 --> 00:06:30,267</time>
<s>所谓原告的一个名誉权</s>
<time>173_00:06:30,633 --> 00:06:31,667</time>
<s>这虽然是我们讨论的重点</s>
<time>174_00:06:32,033 --> 00:06:33,767</time>
<s>但是更重要的一个点是在于</s>
<time>175_00:06:34,133 --> 00:06:35,867</time>
<s>消费者他有没有权利来发表</s>
<time>176_00:06:36,233 --> 00:06:37,267</time>
<s>自己结论的一个权利</s>
<time>177_00:06:37,633 --> 00:06:38,333</time>
<s>那么如果是结论</s>
<time>178_00:06:38,667 --> 00:06:40,067</time>
<s>那么必然会带来一定的判断</s>
<time>179_00:06:40,433 --> 00:06:42,167</time>
<s>判断必然会有一个对错</s>
<time>180_00:06:42,533 --> 00:06:44,967</time>
<s>我们今天讨论的问题是在于对错</s>
<time>181_00:06:45,667 --> 00:06:47,767</time>
<s>结论的对错是不是必然就代表着</s>
<time>182_00:06:48,467 --> 00:06:48,833</time>
<s>侵权</s>
<time>183_00:06:49,167 --> 00:06:50,933</time>
<s>错误的结论是不是就是一个造谣</s>
<time>184_00:06:51,967 --> 00:06:53,733</time>
<s>原告自己在诉状上也提到</s>
<time>185_00:06:54,067 --> 00:06:55,467</time>
<s>被告转发**网的视频</s>
<time>186_00:06:55,833 --> 00:06:57,233</time>
<s>那么就目前而言</s>
<time>187_00:06:57,567 --> 00:06:59,333</time>
<s>原告就是这个</s>
<time>188_00:06:59,667 --> 00:07:02,133</time>
<s>视频本身是否侵权并没有一个定论</s>
<time>189_00:07:02,467 --> 00:07:03,167</time>
<s>而原告</s>
<time>190_00:07:03,533 --> 00:07:04,567</time>
<s>直接却向我们的被告</s>
<time>191_00:07:04,933 --> 00:07:05,967</time>
<s>本人提起诉讼</s>
<time>192_00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:07,033</time>
<s>但在这里</s>
<time>193_00:07:07,367 --> 00:07:08,433</time>
<s>我对原告的这个行为</s>
<time>194_00:07:08,767 --> 00:07:10,533</time>
<s>有一个非常大的疑惑</s>
<time>195_00:07:10,867 --> 00:07:11,933</time>
<s>那究竟是想说</s>
<time>196_00:07:12,267 --> 00:07:13,667</time>
<s>被告转发这个行是错的</s>
<time>197_00:07:14,033 --> 00:07:16,467</time>
<s>还是在警告被告不要乱说话呢</s>
<time>198_00:07:17,533 --> 00:07:18,233</time>
<s>答辩人被告</s>
<time>199_00:07:18,567 --> 00:07:19,967</time>
<s>本身主观上并没有侵犯</s>
<time>200_00:07:20,333 --> 00:07:21,367</time>
<s>原告名誉权的一个过错</s>
<time>201_00:07:22,067 --> 00:07:23,133</time>
<s>他的行为的所有目的</s>
<time>202_00:07:23,467 --> 00:07:25,933</time>
<s>只是作为一个消费者正常的一个表达</s>
<time>203_00:07:26,267 --> 00:07:27,333</time>
<s>和对产品的监督和关注</s>
<time>204_00:07:27,667 --> 00:07:29,767</time>
<s>那么在这样的一个情况下</s>
<time>205_00:07:30,133 --> 00:07:32,567</time>
<s>首先第一答辩人自身是</s>
<time>206_00:07:32,933 --> 00:07:35,033</time>
<s>原告产品的粉丝自2012年起</s>
<time>207_00:07:35,367 --> 00:07:37,467</time>
<s>就已经购买了大量原告的一个产品</s>
<time>208_00:07:37,833 --> 00:07:38,533</time>
<s>由此可见</s>
<time>209_00:07:39,233 --> 00:07:42,033</time>
<s>被告他只是一个忠实的一个消费者</s>
<time>210_00:07:42,367 --> 00:07:43,767</time>
<s>刚刚原告说</s>
<time>211_00:07:44,133 --> 00:07:45,167</time>
<s>他不是一个消费者</s>
<time>212_00:07:45,533 --> 00:07:46,567</time>
<s>和普通的消费者不一样</s>
<time>213_00:07:46,933 --> 00:07:47,633</time>
<s>他是一个网络大v</s>
<time>214_00:07:47,967 --> 00:07:48,667</time>
<s>那么请问网络大v</s>
<time>215_00:07:49,367 --> 00:07:50,767</time>
<s>就不能成为消费者吗</s>
<time>216_00:07:51,467 --> 00:07:53,567</time>
<s>说不通也不符合一般的生活逻辑</s>
<time>217_00:07:55,333 --> 00:07:56,033</time>
<s>守方律师很主动</s>
<time>218_00:07:56,367 --> 00:07:58,133</time>
<s>在一开始的答辩中就转守为攻</s>
<time>219_00:07:58,833 --> 00:07:59,867</time>
<s>并质问原告的动机</s>
<time>220_00:08:00,567 --> 00:08:02,333</time>
<s>究竟被告的转发行为是错误的</s>
<time>221_00:08:02,667 --> 00:08:04,433</time>
<s>还是为了警告被告不要乱说话</s>
<time>222_00:08:04,767 --> 00:08:05,133</time>
<s>非常犀利啊</s>
<time>223_00:08:05,467 --> 00:08:07,233</time>
<s>并非常有针对性的回应了</s>
<time>224_00:08:07,567 --> 00:08:08,967</time>
<s>攻方律师提出的关键性问题</s>
<time>225_00:08:09,667 --> 00:08:11,067</time>
<s>被告不仅是博主</s>
<time>226_00:08:11,433 --> 00:08:12,833</time>
<s>更是小米产品的一个消费者</s>
<time>227_00:08:13,533 --> 00:08:14,567</time>
<s>被告的身份属性</s>
<time>228_00:08:14,933 --> 00:08:17,367</time>
<s>是本案中非常重要的一个关键性问题</s>
<time>229_00:08:17,733 --> 00:08:18,767</time>
<s>大家在后面会看到</s>
<time>230_00:08:19,133 --> 00:08:21,567</time>
<s>守方律师在此后的一系列的论述中</s>
<time>231_00:08:21,933 --> 00:08:22,633</time>
<s>都是基于被告</s>
<time>232_00:08:22,967 --> 00:08:25,067</time>
<s>作为一个消费者的身份作为论点的</s>
<time>233_00:08:25,767 --> 00:08:27,533</time>
<s>答辩人选取防火测试进行转发</s>
<time>234_00:08:27,867 --> 00:08:29,967</time>
<s>在主观上并没有任何可以苛责</s>
<time>235_00:08:30,333 --> 00:08:31,367</time>
<s>或者说予以质疑的</s>
<time>236_00:08:31,733 --> 00:08:33,133</time>
<s>一个主观上的一个</s>
<time>237_00:08:33,467 --> 00:08:35,233</time>
<s>一个合理的一个怀疑都是存在</s>
<time>238_00:08:35,933 --> 00:08:38,367</time>
<s>第二个是回应原告当中提到</s>
<time>239_00:08:38,733 --> 00:08:40,467</time>
<s>被告没有尽到相应的合理审核义务</s>
<time>240_00:08:41,533 --> 00:08:42,933</time>
<s>首先这个所谓转发视频</s>
<time>241_00:08:43,267 --> 00:08:44,667</time>
<s>他是**网自身来自制的</s>
<time>242_00:08:45,033 --> 00:08:46,067</time>
<s>那么**网又是谁呢</s>
<time>243_00:08:46,433 --> 00:08:48,167</time>
<s>首先原告他自己</s>
<time>244_00:08:48,533 --> 00:08:49,933</time>
<s>就是**网的一个合作伙伴</s>
<time>245_00:08:50,267 --> 00:08:52,033</time>
<s>在**网合作伙伴当中</s>
<time>246_00:08:52,733 --> 00:08:54,833</time>
<s>就赫然放着咱们原告的商标</s>
<time>247_00:08:55,533 --> 00:08:56,567</time>
<s>**网还曾经为原告</s>
<time>248_00:08:56,933 --> 00:08:58,667</time>
<s>颁发过年度新锐手机的品牌奖</s>
<time>249_00:08:59,033 --> 00:09:00,767</time>
<s>这是原告自己的一个</s>
<time>250_00:09:01,133 --> 00:09:02,167</time>
<s>证据当中所提到的</s>
<time>251_00:09:02,533 --> 00:09:03,933</time>
<s>因此答辩人有充分的理由去相信</s>
<time>252_00:09:04,267 --> 00:09:06,367</time>
<s>在**网制作这次拆机测试时的时候</s>
<time>253_00:09:06,733 --> 00:09:07,433</time>
<s>已经考虑</s>
<time>254_00:09:07,767 --> 00:09:09,533</time>
<s>到了原告的相应的一个接受度</s>
<time>255_00:09:10,233 --> 00:09:11,267</time>
<s>答辩人有理由去相信</s>
<time>256_00:09:12,667 --> 00:09:14,067</time>
<s>已经具备了相应的公正性</s>
<time>257_00:09:14,433 --> 00:09:14,767</time>
<s>和专业性</s>
<time>258_00:09:15,467 --> 00:09:15,833</time>
<s>第三</s>
<time>259_00:09:16,167 --> 00:09:17,933</time>
<s>答辩人所转发的这个视频呢</s>
<time>260_00:09:18,267 --> 00:09:19,333</time>
<s>就更没有什么可以苛责的</s>
<time>261_00:09:19,667 --> 00:09:21,433</time>
<s>因为我转被告转发的内容</s>
<time>262_00:09:21,767 --> 00:09:23,167</time>
<s>是第三方的一个客观评论</s>
<time>263_00:09:23,533 --> 00:09:24,567</time>
<s>没有做任何的一个转发</s>
<time>264_00:09:25,267 --> 00:09:25,633</time>
<s>在</s>
<time>265_00:09:26,333 --> 00:09:28,433</time>
<s>我们转发的这个视频当中所指出的</s>
<time>266_00:09:29,133 --> 00:09:30,533</time>
<s>原告案涉手机存在的瑕疵</s>
<time>267_00:09:30,867 --> 00:09:31,567</time>
<s>比方说易发热</s>
<time>268_00:09:31,933 --> 00:09:34,367</time>
<s>卡顿和黑屏等这些客观问题</s>
<time>269_00:09:34,733 --> 00:09:35,767</time>
<s>我们也做了一个公证</s>
<time>270_00:09:36,833 --> 00:09:37,533</time>
<s>只是局限于</s>
<time>271_00:09:37,867 --> 00:09:39,967</time>
<s>被告转发的那几个微博当中提到</s>
<time>272_00:09:40,667 --> 00:09:43,133</time>
<s>在于洋洋酒洒几干条</s>
<time>273_00:09:43,833 --> 00:09:44,867</time>
<s>差评当中</s>
<time>274_00:09:45,233 --> 00:09:46,267</time>
<s>也有大量的消费者</s>
<time>275_00:09:46,633 --> 00:09:49,067</time>
<s>对相同问题提出相应的一个回应</s>
<time>276_00:09:49,433 --> 00:09:51,167</time>
<s>原告作为有几千万粉丝的一个</s>
<time>277_00:09:51,533 --> 00:09:53,267</time>
<s>在微博上有几千万的一粉丝的一个</s>
<time>278_00:09:53,633 --> 00:09:53,967</time>
<s>基础之上</s>
<time>279_00:09:57,133 --> 00:09:58,867</time>
<s>从来都没有正面进行过回应</s>
<time>280_00:09:59,233 --> 00:10:00,267</time>
<s>仅仅只是对于</s>
<time>281_00:10:00,633 --> 00:10:03,067</time>
<s>被告所转发的防火的部分内容</s>
<time>282_00:10:03,433 --> 00:10:04,467</time>
<s>专门没有任何</s>
<time>283_00:10:04,833 --> 00:10:06,233</time>
<s>正面回应的一个前提之下</s>
<time>284_00:10:06,567 --> 00:10:07,967</time>
<s>径直来进行一个起诉</s>
<time>285_00:10:08,333 --> 00:10:09,367</time>
<s>那么我真的很想</s>
<time>286_00:10:10,067 --> 00:10:10,433</time>
<s>很想搞清楚</s>
<time>287_00:10:10,767 --> 00:10:12,867</time>
<s>原告目的是维护了自己的权利</s>
<time>288_00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:15,333</time>
<s>还是想让被告不要乱说话</s>
<time>289_00:10:16,733 --> 00:10:18,133</time>
<s>守方律师火力真的很猛啊</s>
<time>290_00:10:18,467 --> 00:10:19,167</time>
<s>逻辑递进也很清晰</s>
<time>291_00:10:19,867 --> 00:10:21,633</time>
<s>不仅清楚表达了己方观点</s>
<time>292_00:10:21,967 --> 00:10:24,067</time>
<s>还顺带撸了一把小米众多质量问题</s>
<time>293_00:10:24,433 --> 00:10:26,867</time>
<s>并再次质疑如果产品真的没有问题</s>
<time>294_00:10:27,233 --> 00:10:28,633</time>
<s>你们为什么从来不正面回应</s>
<time>295_00:10:29,333 --> 00:10:31,433</time>
<s>你起诉被告的目的到底是为了维权</s>
<time>296_00:10:31,767 --> 00:10:32,833</time>
<s>还是为了不让被告乱说话</s>
<time>297_00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:34,567</time>
<s>这个点抓的很准</s>
<time>298_00:10:34,933 --> 00:10:36,667</time>
<s>你要指控我转发的错误的内容</s>
<time>299_00:10:37,033 --> 00:10:39,133</time>
<s>那么你自己的产品到底有没有问题呢</s>
<time>300_00:10:39,467 --> 00:10:40,867</time>
<s>你为什么从来都不回应呢</s>
<time>301_00:10:41,933 --> 00:10:44,033</time>
<s>那么为进一步查明本案的相关事实</s>
<time>302_00:10:44,367 --> 00:10:47,167</time>
<s>那么现在合议庭向原被告双方</s>
<time>303_00:10:47,533 --> 00:10:48,233</time>
<s>询问以下问题</s>
<time>304_00:10:48,933 --> 00:10:51,033</time>
<s>被告发布截取之**网</s>
<time>305_00:10:51,367 --> 00:10:54,533</time>
<s>直播视频发布的目的是什么</s>
<time>306_00:10:56,633 --> 00:10:57,667</time>
<s>好的我们简要陈述一下</s>
<time>307_00:10:58,367 --> 00:10:59,767</time>
<s>原告品牌有小米品牌</s>
<time>308_00:11:00,833 --> 00:11:01,533</time>
<s>名下的</s>
<time>309_00:11:02,567 --> 00:11:04,333</time>
<s>很多产品都发生过自燃</s>
<time>310_00:11:05,033 --> 00:11:06,767</time>
<s>甚至导致重大火灾的情况</s>
<time>311_00:11:07,467 --> 00:11:08,167</time>
<s>那么基于这个背景</s>
<time>312_00:11:08,867 --> 00:11:11,333</time>
<s>被告对原告产品的</s>
<time>313_00:11:13,067 --> 00:11:14,133</time>
<s>防火安全性能</s>
<time>314_00:11:14,833 --> 00:11:17,633</time>
<s>是抱有深度的关切和关心</s>
<time>315_00:11:18,333 --> 00:11:20,767</time>
<s>被告在引用**网的视频当中</s>
<time>316_00:11:21,133 --> 00:11:24,267</time>
<s>对于其他的</s>
<time>317_00:11:24,967 --> 00:11:25,333</time>
<s>评测</s>
<time>318_00:11:25,667 --> 00:11:27,767</time>
<s>当中不理想的情况都没有加以披露</s>
<time>319_00:11:28,133 --> 00:11:30,933</time>
<s>而仅仅披露了防火安全性能这一节</s>
<time>320_00:11:31,267 --> 00:11:32,333</time>
<s>我们觉得是有</s>
<time>321_00:11:33,033 --> 00:11:34,767</time>
<s>非常正当合理的目的的</s>
<time>322_00:11:35,467 --> 00:11:37,933</time>
<s>好那么接下来审判长再问一个问题</s>
<time>323_00:11:38,267 --> 00:11:39,333</time>
<s>就截取视频发布前</s>
<time>324_00:11:40,033 --> 00:11:42,467</time>
<s>被告是否对相关的事实进行了解</s>
<time>325_00:11:42,833 --> 00:11:43,867</time>
<s>是否核实了</s>
<time>326_00:11:44,233 --> 00:11:46,333</time>
<s>相关内容的合理性和可信性</s>
<time>327_00:11:47,367 --> 00:11:48,767</time>
<s>我们认为这个核实的主要工作</s>
<time>328_00:11:49,133 --> 00:11:51,567</time>
<s>因为作为普通的消费者</s>
<time>329_00:11:52,633 --> 00:11:55,067</time>
<s>那么其实核实的主要工作就在于发布</s>
<time>330_00:11:55,767 --> 00:11:57,533</time>
<s>和制作这个视频的</s>
<time>331_00:11:57,867 --> 00:11:58,933</time>
<s>主体**网</s>
<time>332_00:11:59,267 --> 00:12:02,067</time>
<s>以及实际操作这次评测</s>
<time>333_00:12:03,133 --> 00:12:05,567</time>
<s>全部程序的**网他本身的公信力</s>
<time>334_00:12:05,933 --> 00:12:07,667</time>
<s>他本身的权威性</s>
<time>335_00:12:08,367 --> 00:12:10,833</time>
<s>我们认为被告已经尽到了</s>
<time>336_00:12:11,167 --> 00:12:13,967</time>
<s>作为普通消费者进行转发的一个</s>
<time>337_00:12:14,667 --> 00:12:16,067</time>
<s>合理的</s>
<time>338_00:12:16,433 --> 00:12:17,133</time>
<s>可行的</s>
<time>339_00:12:18,533 --> 00:12:19,233</time>
<s>审核义务</s>
<time>340_00:12:20,267 --> 00:12:24,133</time>
<s>被告方对你方8月19号发布的微博中</s>
<time>341_00:12:24,467 --> 00:12:25,533</time>
<s>所做出的小米10</s>
<time>342_00:12:26,233 --> 00:12:27,633</time>
<s>至尊手机发热</s>
<time>343_00:12:27,967 --> 00:12:29,367</time>
<s>续航卡顿问题的博文</s>
<time>344_00:12:30,433 --> 00:12:31,833</time>
<s>你方发布的依据是什么</s>
<time>345_00:12:33,933 --> 00:12:37,067</time>
<s>我方发布的依据</s>
<time>346_00:12:38,133 --> 00:12:39,167</time>
<s>完全来自于</s>
<time>347_00:12:39,867 --> 00:12:43,033</time>
<s>京东商城消费者的实际的</s>
<time>348_00:12:43,733 --> 00:12:45,833</time>
<s>真实的评价的言论</s>
<time>349_00:12:47,233 --> 00:12:48,967</time>
<s>原告还有没有补充</s>
<time>350_00:12:50,033 --> 00:12:50,367</time>
<s>首先</s>
<time>351_00:12:51,067 --> 00:12:53,167</time>
<s>**网他的测试方法明显不对</s>
<time>352_00:12:54,567 --> 00:12:57,033</time>
<s>他是拿着一个焊接金属的</s>
<time>353_00:12:57,367 --> 00:12:59,467</time>
<s>温度高达1,300度的</s>
<time>354_00:13:00,167 --> 00:13:03,667</time>
<s>压力燃料气罐装配喷枪去</s>
<time>355_00:13:05,067 --> 00:13:05,767</time>
<s>点电视机</s>
<time>356_00:13:06,133 --> 00:13:09,267</time>
<s>这显然不符合一个正常的一个测试的</s>
<time>357_00:13:09,967 --> 00:13:12,433</time>
<s>连金属都能点燃</s>
<time>358_00:13:12,767 --> 00:13:14,167</time>
<s>那塑料</s>
<time>359_00:13:14,867 --> 00:13:18,033</time>
<s>能不会出现一些燃烧的一些情况吗</s>
<time>360_00:13:18,367 --> 00:13:20,467</time>
<s>这个测试方法显然错误的</s>
<time>361_00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:23,267</time>
<s>我们再看一下第二个明显错误的地方</s>
<time>362_00:13:25,033 --> 00:13:26,067</time>
<s>他点小米的时候</s>
<time>363_00:13:26,767 --> 00:13:27,833</time>
<s>和点友商的产品的时候</s>
<time>364_00:13:28,167 --> 00:13:29,567</time>
<s>是点的不同的部位啊</s>
<time>365_00:13:30,267 --> 00:13:30,967</time>
<s>我们的国家标准当中</s>
<time>366_00:13:31,333 --> 00:13:32,367</time>
<s>对不同部位的这个</s>
<time>367_00:13:33,433 --> 00:13:34,133</time>
<s>要求也是不一样的</s>
<time>368_00:13:34,467 --> 00:13:35,533</time>
<s>他点小米的时候呢</s>
<time>369_00:13:35,867 --> 00:13:38,667</time>
<s>是点小米电视的喇叭后壳部分啊</s>
<time>370_00:13:39,033 --> 00:13:41,133</time>
<s>喇叭后壳部分呢我们知道</s>
<time>371_00:13:42,167 --> 00:13:45,333</time>
<s>他在国家标准当中是不需要啊</s>
<time>372_00:13:45,667 --> 00:13:47,433</time>
<s>不需要达到阻燃这个效果的啊</s>
<time>373_00:13:47,767 --> 00:13:50,233</time>
<s>虽然即便不需要小米依然做了一个啊</s>
<time>374_00:13:50,567 --> 00:13:51,967</time>
<s>做了一个阻燃的材料</s>
<time>375_00:13:52,667 --> 00:13:54,067</time>
<s>而点燃友商的时候呢</s>
<time>376_00:13:54,433 --> 00:13:56,167</time>
<s>是对友商的这个</s>
<time>377_00:13:57,233 --> 00:13:59,333</time>
<s>电源板后壳进行燃烧</s>
<time>378_00:14:00,033 --> 00:14:00,733</time>
<s>这个部位就明显不同</s>
<time>379_00:14:01,067 --> 00:14:02,467</time>
<s>而这个部分是国家标准当中</s>
<time>380_00:14:02,833 --> 00:14:04,933</time>
<s>强制要求要有阻燃的效果的</s>
<time>381_00:14:05,967 --> 00:14:07,733</time>
<s>面对这么一个如此不专业的一个测试</s>
<time>382_00:14:08,433 --> 00:14:09,467</time>
<s>显然漏洞百出的测试</s>
<time>383_00:14:09,833 --> 00:14:12,267</time>
<s>而且指向性非常明显的测试</s>
<time>384_00:14:13,667 --> 00:14:15,067</time>
<s>原告代理人可以简短一点</s>
<time>385_00:14:15,433 --> 00:14:16,133</time>
<s>我们的博主</s>
<time>386_00:14:16,467 --> 00:14:17,867</time>
<s>因为这里表现到特别恶劣啊</s>
<time>387_00:14:18,233 --> 00:14:20,667</time>
<s>我就稍微稍微重点突出一下</s>
<time>388_00:14:21,033 --> 00:14:22,067</time>
<s>他就在添油加醋</s>
<time>389_00:14:22,433 --> 00:14:23,467</time>
<s>说小米电视轻松着火</s>
<time>390_00:14:23,833 --> 00:14:24,533</time>
<s>最后大量在全网转发</s>
<time>391_00:14:24,867 --> 00:14:27,333</time>
<s>造成整个全网扩散这么一个不良后果</s>
<time>392_00:14:27,667 --> 00:14:30,133</time>
<s>我想他的主观恶性是非常明显的</s>
<time>393_00:14:30,467 --> 00:14:31,167</time>
<s>而且他的注意义务</s>
<time>394_00:14:31,533 --> 00:14:33,267</time>
<s>是跟他作为一个40万粉丝的博主</s>
<time>395_00:14:33,633 --> 00:14:34,667</time>
<s>是远远不匹配的</s>
<time>396_00:14:35,367 --> 00:14:36,767</time>
<s>接下来的法庭辩论</s>
<time>397_00:14:37,133 --> 00:14:40,267</time>
<s>原被告双方应在法庭调查的基础上</s>
<time>398_00:14:41,333 --> 00:14:43,433</time>
<s>围绕争议焦点</s>
<time>399_00:14:44,133 --> 00:14:45,167</time>
<s>对案件的事实</s>
<time>400_00:14:45,533 --> 00:14:46,567</time>
<s>是非责任</s>
<time>401_00:14:46,933 --> 00:14:47,967</time>
<s>法律适用等</s>
<time>402_00:14:48,667 --> 00:14:49,367</time>
<s>进行辩论</s>
<time>403_00:14:50,067 --> 00:14:51,467</time>
<s>那么第一点辩论意见</s>
<time>404_00:14:52,167 --> 00:14:56,033</time>
<s>小米产品的声誉和商业信誉极佳</s>
<time>405_00:14:56,733 --> 00:14:58,133</time>
<s>获得了极高的社会评价</s>
<time>406_00:14:58,833 --> 00:14:59,167</time>
<s>小米公司</s>
<time>407_00:14:59,533 --> 00:14:59,867</time>
<s>小米品牌</s>
<time>408_00:15:00,233 --> 00:15:00,933</time>
<s>小米产品</s>
<time>409_00:15:01,267 --> 00:15:03,367</time>
<s>一直以来享有极高的社会评价</s>
<time>410_00:15:03,733 --> 00:15:05,133</time>
<s>小米从成立至今</s>
<time>411_00:15:05,833 --> 00:15:07,233</time>
<s>获得了诸多奖项和荣誉</s>
<time>412_00:15:07,933 --> 00:15:10,367</time>
<s>同时也被评为驰名商标</s>
<time>413_00:15:11,433 --> 00:15:12,833</time>
<s>攻方律师还是维持了基本策略</s>
<time>414_00:15:13,167 --> 00:15:13,867</time>
<s>一边指出</s>
<time>415_00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:15,967</time>
<s>被告应用的两条消息是错误的</s>
<time>416_00:15:16,333 --> 00:15:17,733</time>
<s>一边强调被告的大V身份</s>
<time>417_00:15:18,433 --> 00:15:19,133</time>
<s>不过对于对方律师</s>
<time>418_00:15:19,467 --> 00:15:21,233</time>
<s>此前指出的产品质量问题</s>
<time>419_00:15:21,567 --> 00:15:22,267</time>
<s>是完全绕开了</s>
<time>420_00:15:22,633 --> 00:15:23,667</time>
<s>基本没有谈论问题</s>
<time>421_00:15:24,033 --> 00:15:25,433</time>
<s>而是再次用了很大篇幅</s>
<time>422_00:15:25,767 --> 00:15:27,167</time>
<s>来讲述小米品牌的知名度</s>
<time>423_00:15:27,533 --> 00:15:28,933</time>
<s>和所获取的各种荣誉</s>
<time>424_00:15:29,633 --> 00:15:30,333</time>
<s>感觉上呢</s>
<time>425_00:15:30,667 --> 00:15:32,767</time>
<s>品牌知名度和产品质量之间的关联</s>
<time>426_00:15:33,133 --> 00:15:34,533</time>
<s>还是有一点勉强</s>
<time>427_00:15:34,867 --> 00:15:36,267</time>
<s>稍后我们来看看守方律师</s>
<time>428_00:15:36,633 --> 00:15:38,367</time>
<s>在这一点上是如何反击的</s>
<time>429_00:15:39,067 --> 00:15:41,867</time>
<s>那么就是这两款在设计上</s>
<time>430_00:15:42,933 --> 00:15:43,967</time>
<s>非常的高端啊</s>
<time>431_00:15:44,333 --> 00:15:45,033</time>
<s>非常的有创意</s>
<time>432_00:15:45,367 --> 00:15:46,433</time>
<s>那么在制造上</s>
<time>433_00:15:47,833 --> 00:15:51,667</time>
<s>极尽各种智能和科技的特点</s>
<time>434_00:15:52,033 --> 00:15:53,767</time>
<s>那么最终形成一个广受</s>
<time>435_00:15:54,133 --> 00:15:55,533</time>
<s>消费者欢迎的优质产品</s>
<time>436_00:15:56,233 --> 00:15:57,267</time>
<s>他被我们的被告</s>
<time>437_00:15:58,333 --> 00:15:59,367</time>
<s>怎样的低毁呢</s>
<time>438_00:15:59,733 --> 00:16:00,433</time>
<s>我们看啊</s>
<time>439_00:16:00,767 --> 00:16:01,467</time>
<s>第二点</s>
<time>440_00:16:02,533 --> 00:16:03,233</time>
<s>被告在微博上</s>
<time>441_00:16:03,567 --> 00:16:06,367</time>
<s>发布了针对小米产品的虚假信息</s>
<time>442_00:16:07,067 --> 00:16:09,167</time>
<s>侵犯了原告的名誉权</s>
<time>443_00:16:09,867 --> 00:16:13,367</time>
<s>首先看其针对小米电视</s>
<time>444_00:16:14,067 --> 00:16:15,467</time>
<s>发布的这个虚假内容</s>
<time>445_00:16:16,533 --> 00:16:19,667</time>
<s>显然被告是实施了诽谤原告的行为</s>
<time>446_00:16:20,733 --> 00:16:22,133</time>
<s>被告还转发了一个关于</s>
<time>447_00:16:22,833 --> 00:16:24,567</time>
<s>小米手机的虚假信息</s>
<time>448_00:16:25,267 --> 00:16:26,667</time>
<s>同样也实施了</s>
<time>449_00:16:27,733 --> 00:16:29,133</time>
<s>排谤原告的行为</s>
<time>450_00:16:30,533 --> 00:16:31,233</time>
<s>我们可以看到</s>
<time>451_00:16:32,267 --> 00:16:36,467</time>
<s>被告在2020年8月19日13:41</s>
<time>452_00:16:37,167 --> 00:16:39,633</time>
<s>又在他的微博账号当中发布了</s>
<time>453_00:16:40,667 --> 00:16:42,433</time>
<s>小米10至尊纪念版</s>
<time>454_00:16:42,767 --> 00:16:43,833</time>
<s>刚开售才几天</s>
<time>455_00:16:44,167 --> 00:16:46,633</time>
<s>京东的好评率就已经掉到了95%</s>
<time>456_00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:48,367</time>
<s>并且附了一张图</s>
<time>457_00:16:49,433 --> 00:16:51,167</time>
<s>这张图是</s>
<time>458_00:16:52,233 --> 00:16:53,633</time>
<s>所谓的某京东用户</s>
<time>459_00:16:54,667 --> 00:16:55,367</time>
<s>在</s>
<time>460_00:16:57,133 --> 00:16:58,867</time>
<s>这个小米手机发布的</s>
<time>461_00:16:59,567 --> 00:17:01,667</time>
<s>第二天收到了这个手机</s>
<time>462_00:17:02,033 --> 00:17:03,767</time>
<s>并且当时就马上做了一个评论</s>
<time>463_00:17:04,133 --> 00:17:05,167</time>
<s>他的评论是什么呢</s>
<time>464_00:17:05,867 --> 00:17:07,267</time>
<s>用了一个礼拜了啊</s>
<time>465_00:17:07,633 --> 00:17:08,667</time>
<s>他是当天收到手机的</s>
<time>466_00:17:09,033 --> 00:17:10,067</time>
<s>他说我用了一个礼拜了</s>
<time>467_00:17:10,767 --> 00:17:11,833</time>
<s>死机了七八次</s>
<time>468_00:17:13,567 --> 00:17:14,633</time>
<s>玩手机发烫</s>
<time>469_00:17:15,333 --> 00:17:17,067</time>
<s>起码要达到50度以上</s>
<time>470_00:17:17,433 --> 00:17:19,167</time>
<s>耗电量也非常的快</s>
<time>471_00:17:19,533 --> 00:17:20,567</time>
<s>两个小时就没电了</s>
<time>472_00:17:21,267 --> 00:17:21,967</time>
<s>当天收到</s>
<time>473_00:17:22,333 --> 00:17:24,433</time>
<s>当天评论却自称用了一个礼拜</s>
<time>474_00:17:24,767 --> 00:17:25,833</time>
<s>而且出现了这么多故障</s>
<time>475_00:17:26,533 --> 00:17:27,933</time>
<s>当中还有两个小时就没电了</s>
<time>476_00:17:28,267 --> 00:17:30,033</time>
<s>不知道他在当天当中怎么来得及</s>
<time>477_00:17:30,367 --> 00:17:31,433</time>
<s>做这么多事情</s>
<time>478_00:17:31,767 --> 00:17:33,533</time>
<s>做了比一个礼拜还多的一个事情</s>
<time>479_00:17:34,233 --> 00:17:36,667</time>
<s>这么一个显然虚假的一个评论内容</s>
<time>480_00:17:37,733 --> 00:17:39,833</time>
<s>居然被我们的知名数码博主</s>
<time>481_00:17:40,167 --> 00:17:41,567</time>
<s>这么一个在测评行业</s>
<time>482_00:17:41,933 --> 00:17:44,033</time>
<s>数码领域也算专业的一个自媒体人</s>
<time>483_00:17:44,733 --> 00:17:46,467</time>
<s>大肆的转发配图</s>
<time>484_00:17:46,833 --> 00:17:48,567</time>
<s>加标题进行去传播</s>
<time>485_00:17:50,667 --> 00:17:53,467</time>
<s>我们不得不怀疑我们的被告</s>
<time>486_00:17:54,167 --> 00:17:55,933</time>
<s>他出于什么样的动机做了这个事情</s>
<time>487_00:17:57,333 --> 00:17:58,367</time>
<s>而且这条信息</s>
<time>488_00:17:59,433 --> 00:18:00,133</time>
<s>这个京东用户</s>
<time>489_00:18:00,467 --> 00:18:03,267</time>
<s>已经在南京地区被小米公司提起了</s>
<time>490_00:18:04,667 --> 00:18:05,367</time>
<s>相应的司法诉讼</s>
<time>491_00:18:06,067 --> 00:18:07,133</time>
<s>在庭审当中</s>
<time>492_00:18:07,833 --> 00:18:09,567</time>
<s>当时我是作为代理人参加庭审的</s>
<time>493_00:18:09,933 --> 00:18:11,333</time>
<s>在庭审当中</s>
<time>494_00:18:12,033 --> 00:18:13,767</time>
<s>这位用户明确承认</s>
<time>495_00:18:14,133 --> 00:18:15,533</time>
<s>他就是发布虚假的信息</s>
<time>496_00:18:16,233 --> 00:18:17,267</time>
<s>而且他说我也不是个消费者</s>
<time>497_00:18:17,633 --> 00:18:19,367</time>
<s>我是个黄牛啊</s>
<time>498_00:18:19,733 --> 00:18:20,767</time>
<s>当然我们也不认可他是黄牛</s>
<time>499_00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:21,467</time>
<s>他是什么</s>
<time>500_00:18:21,833 --> 00:18:23,567</time>
<s>他其实就是背后的黑灰产业链</s>
<time>501_00:18:23,933 --> 00:18:24,633</time>
<s>当中的一个</s>
<time>502_00:18:25,667 --> 00:18:27,067</time>
<s>埋这个负面信息的一个</s>
<time>503_00:18:27,433 --> 00:18:28,467</time>
<s>传播节点</s>
<time>504_00:18:28,833 --> 00:18:30,233</time>
<s>一个源头</s>
<time>505_00:18:31,267 --> 00:18:34,433</time>
<s>而根据种种的这个间接证据的这个</s>
<time>506_00:18:35,467 --> 00:18:37,233</time>
<s>这个特征来表明</s>
<time>507_00:18:37,567 --> 00:18:38,967</time>
<s>反应事实来表明啊</s>
<time>508_00:18:39,667 --> 00:18:40,367</time>
<s>本案存在</s>
<time>509_00:18:41,433 --> 00:18:45,267</time>
<s>网络水军等黑稿产业链的传播特征</s>
<time>510_00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:49,833</time>
<s>被告存在收取相应的商业利益</s>
<time>511_00:18:50,167 --> 00:18:51,933</time>
<s>进行转发的可能性</s>
<time>512_00:18:53,667 --> 00:18:55,433</time>
<s>哎呀这个地方有点出乎意料啊</s>
<time>513_00:18:55,767 --> 00:18:56,467</time>
<s>攻方律师啊</s>
<time>514_00:18:56,833 --> 00:19:00,333</time>
<s>用间接证据来推断指控被告和黑产</s>
<time>515_00:19:01,033 --> 00:19:02,067</time>
<s>有关的可能性啊</s>
<time>516_00:19:02,433 --> 00:19:03,467</time>
<s>这个在法庭上这么讲</s>
<time>517_00:19:04,533 --> 00:19:05,933</time>
<s>还是挺大胆的</s>
<time>518_00:19:06,633 --> 00:19:09,067</time>
<s>下面由被告发表第一轮的辩论意见</s>
<time>519_00:19:09,767 --> 00:19:10,467</time>
<s>好的什么呢</s>
<time>520_00:19:11,167 --> 00:19:11,867</time>
<s>请原告代理人</s>
<time>521_00:19:12,233 --> 00:19:14,667</time>
<s>您作为代理人不要歪曲事实</s>
<time>522_00:19:15,033 --> 00:19:16,767</time>
<s>您上来就说我们歪曲事实</s>
<time>523_00:19:17,133 --> 00:19:18,867</time>
<s>提供虚假证据黑灰产业链</s>
<time>524_00:19:19,233 --> 00:19:20,967</time>
<s>那么请问您作为代理人</s>
<time>525_00:19:21,333 --> 00:19:22,733</time>
<s>以事实为依据</s>
<time>526_00:19:23,067 --> 00:19:24,133</time>
<s>以证据为依据</s>
<time>527_00:19:24,467 --> 00:19:24,833</time>
<s>注意用词</s>
<time>528_00:19:25,533 --> 00:19:27,967</time>
<s>不要试图通过这些负面的评价</s>
<time>529_00:19:28,333 --> 00:19:30,433</time>
<s>用词来影响庭上的自由心证</s>
<time>530_00:19:31,133 --> 00:19:33,567</time>
<s>第二个你说我们符合这些</s>
<time>531_00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:35,333</time>
<s>这些所谓的网络水军</s>
<time>532_00:19:35,667 --> 00:19:36,033</time>
<s>黑灰产业链</s>
<time>533_00:19:36,367 --> 00:19:36,733</time>
<s>什么是黑稿产业</s>
<time>534_00:19:37,067 --> 00:19:38,833</time>
<s>可能符合这些特征</s>
<time>535_00:19:39,167 --> 00:19:40,933</time>
<s>所以我们就是这些吗</s>
<time>536_00:19:41,267 --> 00:19:41,633</time>
<s>你举证了吗</s>
<time>537_00:19:41,967 --> 00:19:42,667</time>
<s>没有</s>
<time>538_00:19:43,033 --> 00:19:46,167</time>
<s>原告反复提到粉丝专业博主四十几万</s>
<time>539_00:19:46,533 --> 00:19:47,567</time>
<s>那么请原告回答我</s>
<time>540_00:19:47,933 --> 00:19:50,033</time>
<s>那作为原告您的粉丝有多少</s>
<time>541_00:19:51,067 --> 00:19:52,467</time>
<s>几千万粉丝和四十几万</s>
<time>542_00:19:52,833 --> 00:19:54,233</time>
<s>零头的零头的1/3</s>
<time>543_00:19:54,933 --> 00:19:55,633</time>
<s>我想问一下</s>
<time>544_00:19:55,967 --> 00:19:57,367</time>
<s>这是第一个问题第二个</s>
<time>545_00:19:57,733 --> 00:19:59,467</time>
<s>一直在强调我们的专业能力</s>
<time>546_00:19:59,833 --> 00:20:02,267</time>
<s>那么从手机或者数码产品的专业角度</s>
<time>547_00:20:02,633 --> 00:20:03,667</time>
<s>在今天庭上的各位</s>
<time>548_00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:04,733</time>
<s>又有哪一位的专业</s>
<time>549_00:20:05,067 --> 00:20:06,467</time>
<s>程度可以比原告呢</s>
<time>550_00:20:06,833 --> 00:20:08,567</time>
<s>谁又比原告更有专业性呢</s>
<time>551_00:20:08,933 --> 00:20:11,033</time>
<s>那么如果原告当时在微博</s>
<time>552_00:20:11,367 --> 00:20:12,067</time>
<s>视频发布的当天</s>
<time>553_00:20:12,433 --> 00:20:12,767</time>
<s>振臂一呼</s>
<time>554_00:20:13,133 --> 00:20:15,933</time>
<s>对于这些所谓的谣言又还能有多少呢</s>
<time>555_00:20:16,267 --> 00:20:18,733</time>
<s>而且原视频是否是虚假的</s>
