<time>537_00:27:37,656 --> 00:27:39,408</time>
<s>那我该怎么办呢</s>
<time>538_00:27:40,117 --> 00:27:40,492</time>
<s>该走还是该停下来</s>
<time>539_00:27:40,826 --> 00:27:42,244</time>
<s>我猜可能是如果你往这个方向走</s>
<time>540_00:27:42,578 --> 00:27:43,287</time>
<s>看到的是红灯就停下来</s>
<time>541_00:27:43,996 --> 00:27:44,705</time>
<s>如果你往另一个方向走就是绿灯</s>
<time>542_00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:46,123</time>
<s>但这并不是它看起来的样子</s>
<time>543_00:27:46,498 --> 00:27:48,584</time>
<s>它看起来就是红的和绿的一起亮了</s>
<time>544_00:27:49,668 --> 00:27:53,881</time>
<s>情况更加令人费解了</s>
<time>545_00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:57,426</time>
<s>还有一些信号灯问题</s>
<time>546_00:27:57,801 --> 00:27:58,844</time>
<s>也在发生</s>
<time>547_00:27:59,219 --> 00:28:02,389</time>
<s>车辆看到的是两个黄灯</s>
<time>548_00:28:03,432 --> 00:28:04,850</time>
<s>自行车有一个黄灯</s>
<time>549_00:28:05,559 --> 00:28:07,686</time>
<s>你的视野里还有一个红灯</s>
<time>550_00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:09,438</time>
<s>而行人是绿灯</s>
<time>551_00:28:09,813 --> 00:28:12,608</time>
<s>同一时刻真的是每个颜色都有了</s>
<time>552_00:28:13,692 --> 00:28:16,153</time>
<s>不知道人们这个时候该怎么做</s>
<time>553_00:28:16,862 --> 00:28:19,323</time>
<s>但有趣的是大家似乎自己解决了</s>
<time>554_00:28:19,698 --> 00:28:22,159</time>
<s>他们开始按照应有的方式用起了这个路口</s>
<time>555_00:28:22,868 --> 00:28:24,620</time>
<s>完全无视红绿灯</s>
<time>556_00:28:24,995 --> 00:28:26,747</time>
<s>管他呢没车我就走</s>
<time>557_00:28:28,874 --> 00:28:30,626</time>
<s>这种情况也类似</s>
<time>558_00:28:31,001 --> 00:28:32,419</time>
<s>南北向是绿灯</s>
<time>559_00:28:32,753 --> 00:28:37,716</time>
<s>东西向双向的车辆看到的是红灯</s>
<time>560_00:28:38,050 --> 00:28:38,425</time>
<s>这很棒</s>
<time>561_00:28:38,759 --> 00:28:41,261</time>
<s>这差不多就是开放式路口的运作方式</s>
<time>562_00:28:41,595 --> 00:28:43,347</time>
<s>已经很接近了</s>
<time>563_00:28:43,722 --> 00:28:48,310</time>
<s>但是居然东西向对行人也是红灯</s>
<time>564_00:28:49,019 --> 00:28:51,480</time>
<s>当然了人们看到所有的车都停下来了</s>
<time>565_00:28:51,855 --> 00:28:52,898</time>
<s>那干吗不直接过去呢</s>
<time>566_00:28:53,273 --> 00:28:58,195</time>
<s>所以现在它就是被当做开放式路口在使用</s>
<time>567_00:28:58,570 --> 00:28:59,947</time>
<s>只是没人承认罢了</s>
<time>568_00:29:00,322 --> 00:29:02,783</time>
<s>下一步所有的灯都变绿了</s>
<time>569_00:29:03,158 --> 00:29:07,746</time>
<s>行人和车辆同时是绿灯</s>
<time>570_00:29:08,080 --> 00:29:09,498</time>
<s>其实这很容易就能改好</s>
<time>571_00:29:09,873 --> 00:29:10,916</time>
<s>就是编程上调整一下</s>
<time>572_00:29:11,291 --> 00:29:12,334</time>
<s>这个灯在这个时间变绿</s>
<time>573_00:29:13,043 --> 00:29:13,752</time>
<s>就是一个信号问题</s>
<time>574_00:29:14,086 --> 00:29:14,795</time>
<s>真的很容易解决</s>
<time>575_00:29:15,170 --> 00:29:17,631</time>
<s>已经很接近了马上就成功了</s>
<time>576_00:29:18,340 --> 00:29:19,758</time>
<s>但去做一件之前不存在的事</s>
<time>577_00:29:20,092 --> 00:29:23,637</time>
<s>真的需要下决心</s>
<time>578_00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:25,055</time>
<s>【不过这也不全是坏事…</s>
<time>579_00:29:25,389 --> 00:29:29,643</time>
<s>至少情况在改善这才是更重要的</s>
<time>580_00:29:29,977 --> 00:29:32,479</time>
<s>这是这些街角以前的样子</s>
<time>581_00:29:32,813 --> 00:29:35,649</time>
<s>灯杆车挡护栏所有东西都混在一起</s>
<time>582_00:29:35,983 --> 00:29:38,485</time>
<s>在另一张图上你可以看到这里更开阔了</s>
<time>583_00:29:38,819 --> 00:29:40,612</time>
<s>路口变得更容易使用</s>
<time>584_00:29:40,946 --> 00:29:45,909</time>
<s>有些我们之前提议过的好想法正在被采纳</s>
<time>585_00:29:46,243 --> 00:29:48,704</time>
<s>很高兴可以看到它们发挥作用</s>
<time>586_00:29:49,079 --> 00:29:50,122</time>
<s>这并不是我们的设计</s>
<time>587_00:29:50,497 --> 00:29:52,249</time>
<s>因为他们没再联系我们</s>
<time>588_00:29:52,958 --> 00:29:56,128</time>
<s>但我觉得看到和理解这些非常重要</s>
<time>589_00:29:56,837 --> 00:29:59,339</time>
<s>这是我们提议的而且已经初见成效</s>
<time>590_00:29:59,673 --> 00:30:01,800</time>
<s>你们看背景中的自行车在穿梭</s>
<time>591_00:30:02,134 --> 00:30:03,927</time>
<s>行人在通行</s>
<time>592_00:30:04,261 --> 00:30:07,431</time>
<s>车辆被限制在这个方向</s>
<time>593_00:30:07,806 --> 00:30:09,558</time>
<s>其实我们的方案中还有更多车挡</s>
<time>594_00:30:09,933 --> 00:30:12,394</time>
<s>这边有一排那边也有一排</s>
<time>595_00:30:13,103 --> 00:30:14,521</time>
<s>我还是相信这样就能够</s>
<time>596_00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:17,691</time>
<s>减少机动车的选择</s>
<time>597_00:30:18,025 --> 00:30:20,152</time>
<s>把路口变得更好</s>
<time>598_00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:21,236</time>
<s>让我们反思一下</s>
<time>599_00:30:21,570 --> 00:30:25,115</time>
<s>这个项目和之前国贸项目的区别</s>
<time>600_00:30:25,449 --> 00:30:28,285</time>
<s>在那个项目中我们也做了很多这样的交通模拟</s>
<time>601_00:30:28,994 --> 00:30:33,248</time>
<s>但国贸项目有一点不同</s>
<time>602_00:30:33,957 --> 00:30:36,752</time>
<s>那是一个理论上概念上的提案</s>
<time>603_00:30:37,461 --> 00:30:39,254</time>
<s>虽然我们做了很多工作</s>
<time>604_00:30:39,588 --> 00:30:44,176</time>
<s>让它不仅是一个纯乌托邦的想象</s>
<time>605_00:30:44,551 --> 00:30:47,012</time>
<s>但本质上它仍然是个概念项目</s>
<time>606_00:30:47,387 --> 00:30:49,848</time>
<s>有些人支持说要把它建造出来</s>
<time>607_00:30:50,182 --> 00:30:51,975</time>
<s>那就实现出来吧</s>
<time>608_00:30:52,684 --> 00:30:55,145</time>
<s>但我觉得做那个项目的初衷</s>
<time>609_00:30:55,479 --> 00:30:57,981</time>
<s>并不是期待它被建造出来</s>
<time>610_00:30:58,315 --> 00:30:59,024</time>
<s>它的目的是</s>
<time>611_00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:02,194</time>
<s>让人们用一种不同的视角去看待空间</s>
<time>612_00:31:02,569 --> 00:31:05,739</time>
<s>去理解城市景观</s>
<time>613_00:31:06,073 --> 00:31:07,491</time>
<s>理解这些城市的空间</s>
<time>614_00:31:07,866 --> 00:31:09,993</time>
<s>并想象它们可以变得不同</s>
<time>615_00:31:10,327 --> 00:31:12,454</time>
<s>这才是国贸那个项目的目的</s>
<time>616_00:31:13,163 --> 00:31:16,333</time>
<s>但是三里屯工体北路项目和国贸不一样</s>
<time>617_00:31:17,417 --> 00:31:20,587</time>
<s>这是可以实现可以被真正改造的</s>
<time>618_00:31:20,921 --> 00:31:25,509</time>
<s>在几种我们觉得有效的方案中</s>
<time>619_00:31:25,884 --> 00:31:27,636</time>
<s>我们知道只要下定决心</s>
<time>620_00:31:28,011 --> 00:31:29,429</time>
<s>本质上是可以有效运转的</s>
<time>621_00:31:29,763 --> 00:31:34,017</time>
<s>实际上也是目前性价比最高的办法</s>
<time>622_00:31:34,351 --> 00:31:37,896</time>
<s>甚至未必有费用问题</s>
<time>623_00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:40,357</time>
<s>两个项目在这些方面是不同的</s>
<time>624_00:31:40,732 --> 00:31:42,818</time>
<s>我们研究城市景观</s>
<time>625_00:31:43,527 --> 00:31:47,781</time>
<s>一个是启发人们去关注这个问题</s>
<time>626_00:31:48,115 --> 00:31:52,369</time>
<s>另一个是真正可行的解决方案</s>
<time>627_00:31:53,078 --> 00:31:54,830</time>
<s>需要注意的是</s>
<time>628_00:31:55,539 --> 00:31:57,666</time>
<s>仍然有巨大的鸿沟</s>
<time>629_00:31:58,041 --> 00:32:05,465</time>
<s>横亘在设计想法和实际建造之间</s>
<time>630_00:32:05,799 --> 00:32:10,387</time>
<s>人们通常想当然地认为</s>
<time>631_00:32:11,471 --> 00:32:14,975</time>
<s>景观就好像是蛋糕上的糖霜一样</s>
<time>632_00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:17,811</time>
<s>可以让工程变得好看</s>
<time>633_00:32:18,145 --> 00:32:21,690</time>
<s>所以本质上道路是工程</s>
<time>634_00:32:22,065 --> 00:32:23,108</time>
<s>先用工程的方式建造出来</s>
<time>635_00:32:23,483 --> 00:32:26,278</time>
<s>再用树和路灯来美化</s>
<time>636_00:32:26,653 --> 00:32:30,157</time>
<s>我觉得这根本就是一个误解</s>
<time>637_00:32:30,532 --> 00:32:32,284</time>
<s>没有明白当我们在设计城市景观时</s>
<time>638_00:32:32,659 --> 00:32:34,077</time>
<s>我们到底在设计什么</s>
<time>639_00:32:34,786 --> 00:32:36,538</time>
<s>这会造成恶性循环</s>
<time>640_00:32:36,872 --> 00:32:38,999</time>
<s>认为任何有美学价值的东西</s>
<time>641_00:32:39,374 --> 00:32:43,587</time>
<s>都是没有实用功能的</s>
<time>642_00:32:43,962 --> 00:32:46,423</time>
<s>这种立场是很有问题的</s>
<time>643_00:32:46,798 --> 00:32:48,175</time>
<s>因为其实在很多项目中</s>
<time>644_00:32:49,968 --> 00:32:53,847</time>
<s>景观设计师实际上是在解决工程产生的问题</s>
<time>645_00:32:54,181 --> 00:32:58,435</time>
<s>仅仅有工程是没法解决这些问题的</s>
<time>646_00:32:59,144 --> 00:33:03,398</time>
<s>需要景观思维与设计一起来解决</s>
<time>647_00:33:03,732 --> 00:33:05,859</time>
<s>另一点也是我一开始提到的</s>
<time>648_00:33:06,193 --> 00:33:08,695</time>
<s>景观设计中存在</s>
<time>649_00:33:09,029 --> 00:33:11,531</time>
<s>各种各样的边界和限制</s>
<time>650_00:33:11,865 --> 00:33:15,035</time>
<s>这让事情变得非常之困难</s>
<time>651_00:33:15,410 --> 00:33:18,580</time>
<s>任何一种声音任何一种愿景</s>
<time>652_00:33:18,914 --> 00:33:24,586</time>
<s>都很难完全按照它的意愿完全实现</s>
<time>653_00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:28,131</time>
<s>很多声音此起彼伏</s>
<time>654_00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,635</time>
<s>所以当我们反思城市景观</s>
<time>655_00:33:32,344 --> 00:33:35,555</time>
<s>我们不希望被这些边界所限制</s>
<time>656_00:33:35,889 --> 00:33:37,307</time>
<s>但它们的确存在</s>
<time>657_00:33:37,641 --> 00:33:43,313</time>
<s>为推进项目增加了难度</s>
<time>658_00:33:44,022 --> 00:33:46,483</time>
<s>你可能会问</s>
<time>659_00:33:46,858 --> 00:33:48,235</time>
<s>你干吗这么对自己呢</s>
<time>660_00:33:48,610 --> 00:33:51,071</time>
<s>我也常常这样问自已</s>
<time>661_00:33:51,446 --> 00:33:53,907</time>
<s>为什么你选择工作在一个</s>
<time>662_00:33:54,241 --> 00:33:57,077</time>
<s>实现方案如此艰难的领域</s>
<time>663_00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:00,956</time>
<s>为什么要在设计那么容易就被照搬</s>
<time>664_00:34:01,331 --> 00:34:03,792</time>
<s>而且会变得面目全非的领域工作</s>
<time>665_00:34:04,167 --> 00:34:06,628</time>
<s>为什么我们仍然坚守在这里</s>
<time>666_00:34:06,962 --> 00:34:10,173</time>
<s>即使维护自己的创意和设计的</s>
<time>667_00:34:10,507 --> 00:34:13,343</time>
<s>署名权和名誉权是那么艰难</s>
<time>668_00:34:13,677 --> 00:34:15,470</time>
<s>为什么还在这个领域工作</s>
<time>669_00:34:15,804 --> 00:34:17,222</time>
<s>即使人们根本不知道你在做什么</s>
<time>670_00:34:17,597 --> 00:34:20,767</time>
<s>人们看到房子知道它们是建筑</s>
<time>671_00:34:21,476 --> 00:34:24,646</time>
<s>但是城市景观真是无法理解</s>
<time>672_00:34:25,355 --> 00:34:27,107</time>
<s>我们需要更多的耐心</s>
<time>673_00:34:27,482 --> 00:34:30,652</time>
<s>更多的时间去解释我们在做什么</s>
<time>674_00:34:30,986 --> 00:34:32,404</time>
<s>即使这样我们还坚守在这里</s>
<time>675_00:34:32,779 --> 00:34:35,240</time>
<s>因为景观真的非常非常重要</s>
<time>676_00:34:35,615 --> 00:34:36,992</time>
<s>我们相信城市景观</s>
<time>677_00:34:37,367 --> 00:34:41,955</time>
<s>很有可能成为21世纪最重要的设计领域之一</s>
<time>678_00:34:42,664 --> 00:34:45,500</time>
<s>它比摩天大楼和购物中心重要得多</s>
<time>679_00:34:45,834 --> 00:34:46,543</time>
<s>重点在于</s>
<time>680_00:34:46,918 --> 00:34:50,797</time>
<s>如果我们想和自然</s>
<time>681_00:34:51,131 --> 00:34:52,549</time>
<s>和非人造的世界建立更好的关系</s>
<time>682_00:34:53,258 --> 00:34:55,010</time>
<s>我们真的应该更好地理解</s>
<time>683_00:34:55,385 --> 00:35:01,391</time>
<s>我们为自己建造的环境</s>
<time>684_00:35:02,434 --> 00:35:06,313</time>
<s>所以我们希望让大家关注到这一领域</s>
<time>685_00:35:07,022 --> 00:35:09,858</time>
<s>用不同的视角看待我们身边的世界</s>
<time>686_00:35:10,567 --> 00:35:14,112</time>
<s>这就是我们做城市景观的原因</s>
<time>687_00:35:15,530 --> 00:35:15,864</time>
<s>谢谢</s>
