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<s>大家好我叫张潇</s>
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<s>来自北京和风社工事务所</s>
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<s>我今天想跟大家分享的一个主题是</s>
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<s>他就像一个邻居只不过没有房子</s>
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<s>好我们先来跟我们这些邻居打个招呼吧</s>
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<s>如果你晚上去过肯德基麦当劳这种24h的营业场所</s>
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<s>那你一定见过这样的画面</s>
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<s>你会发现里面坐着一些人</s>
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<s>他们好像也不点东西</s>
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<s>然后在那一坐就坐一宿</s>
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<s>你也会看见有些人找个角落随便就睡下了</s>
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<s>然后这些人跟店员之间好像有一种默契</s>
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<s>店员也不轰他们</s>
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<s>在有的地下通道里面</s>
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<s>你可能会见到这样的情景</s>
<time>17_00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,280</time>
<s>有的人就直接睡在了地下通道里面</s>
<time>18_00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:55,800</time>
<s>然后你能看见他们身边带着锅碗瓢盆</s>
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<s>好像他们在地下通道里面生活</s>
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<s>如果这会儿你直接走过去的话</s>
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<s>你就会发现他们的眼睛都齐刷刷地看着你</s>
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<s>当然如果你夜里去取过钱</s>
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<s>你可能还会见到这样的动静</s>
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<s>有的人就直接住在了银行自助ATM机空间里面</s>
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<s>我不知道如果这会儿你想取钱的时候</s>
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<s>你看到这样的场景还会不会去取</s>
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<s>还有一些人</s>
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<s>我们没法去说他在一个什么样的场域里面</s>
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<s>他就直接睡在大街上</s>
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<s>那么我想问的是</s>
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<s>如果我们看到了这样的画面</s>
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<s>我们的第一反应是什么</s>
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<s>一般情况下我们都会觉得说</s>
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<s>他们很脏</s>
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<s>他们很可怕</s>
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<s>如果遇见这样的情况</s>
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<s>我可能得绕着点走</s>
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<s>但是同样一群人</s>
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<s>如果我们把时间切换到白天</s>
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<s>你可能会看到不一样的他们</s>
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<s>他们有的人穿上了工装</s>
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<s>然后进了工地里面去从事最简单的体力劳动</s>
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<s>在里面充当力工</s>
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<s>有的人穿上了保洁环卫的服装</s>
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<s>变成了我们身边的环卫工人</s>
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<s>还有的人钻进了这些农副产品的批发市场里面</s>
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<s>从大货车上往下卸瓜果蔬菜</s>
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<s>当然还有一些人</s>
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<s>他们进到了商场里面</s>
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<s>然后在里面闲逛</s>
<time>51_00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,840</time>
<s>然后还有进到图书馆里面</s>
<time>52_00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:05,280</time>
<s>在里面看书</s>
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<s>即便你一眼就能看出来他们好像没有什么消费能力</s>
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<s>还有的人开始拾荒</s>
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<s>他们沿着街一个一个垃圾桶来翻</s>
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<s>从里面去捡一些瓶子</s>
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<s>还有其他可以卖钱的东西</s>
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<s>当然他们绝大多数人跟我们一样</s>
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<s>好像有什么自己的事要做</s>
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<s>然后把自己的行李打包起来</s>
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<s>跟我们一起进入了这条人流</s>
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<s>我们管这群晚上无家可归露宿街头的人叫做露宿者</s>
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<s>而我们自己是一个服务露宿者的社工机构</s>
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<s>我们现在有8个全职的工作人员</s>
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<s>然后专门为露宿者去提供服务</s>
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<s>协助他们脱离露宿状态</s>
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<s>我们给自己定了一个使命</s>
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<s>叫帮每一位露宿街头的朋友获得被尊重的力量</s>
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<s>在2014年我们刚开始接触这个群体的时候</s>
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<s>我们自己也有很多疑问</s>
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<s>比如说他们是谁</s>
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<s>他们为什么不回家</s>
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<s>他们为什么露宿街头</s>
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<s>所以在2014年夏天到2015年春天的时候</s>
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<s>我们对北京市三环以内的所有露宿者</s>
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<s>就做了一次大的调查</s>
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<s>我们看一下调查结果</s>
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<s>在整个群体里面</s>
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<s>包含了访民</s>
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<s>还有原来上访但是现在已经不上访的人员</s>
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<s>也包含了一些外来务工但是还没有找到工作的人</s>
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<s>包括我们刚才看到的这些拾荒者</s>
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<s>还有一些离家出走的人没有亲属抚养的人</s>
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<s>包括还有一些人好像看起来他的精神不是那么正常</s>
<time>85_00:03:27,360 --> 00:03:30,240</time>
<s>然后也包含了我们其实每个人都见过的气讨者</s>
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<s>实际上在露宿者这个群体里面</s>
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<s>他们遵循的是最原始的甚至是弱肉强食的丛林法则</s>
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<s>比如说年轻的露宿者会去抢年老的露宿者的东西</s>
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<s>比如挂面什么的</s>
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<s>在这一块的时候我想单独说一下气讨者</s>
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<s>因为在整个露宿者群体里面</s>
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<s>实际上大家也都很视或者很排斥气讨行为</s>
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<s>露宿者跟我们一样也会认为说</s>
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<s>我有手有脚</s>
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<s>你看我都露宿街头了</s>
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<s>我也不去伸手管别人要钱去</s>
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<s>所以这样的话我就想说的是</s>
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<s>我们在街上遇见的绝大部分的地铁里的</s>
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<s>然后公园门口的</s>
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<s>包括有一些商场里面的气讨者</s>
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<s>他们很有可能都不是露宿街头的</s>
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<s>或者说他们这种气讨行为是一种有组织的气讨行为</s>
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<s>好我们回到正题上</s>
<time>104_00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:19,560</time>
<s>其实我们还是想问</s>
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<s>那他们为什么要睡在外边</s>
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<s>与其我们坐在这空想</s>
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<s>不如我们走近他们</s>
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<s>听听他们自己怎么说</s>
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<s>但如果同时你对现在我们国家现行的</s>
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<s>社会救助政策有所了解</s>
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<s>你可能还会继续发问</s>
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<s>说明明我们有政府举办的救助管理机构</s>
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<s>就是咱们说的救助站</s>
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<s>他们中的大多数人为什么不去接受救助呢</s>
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<s>我们看一下他们怎么说的</s>
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<s>他叫"145"</s>
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<s>是我们的一个服务对象</s>
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<s>我们刚开始跟露宿者接触的时候</s>
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<s>往往都不知道他们的真名</s>
<time>120_00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,240</time>
<s>所以我们会根据他的一些特点给他们去起一个代号</s>
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<s>后来慢慢地跟他们混熟了</s>
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<s>这些代号也就懒得改口了</s>
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<s>就这么一直叫下来了</s>
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<s>我们之所以叫他“145"</s>
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<s>是因为他的身高就只有一米四五比较矮</s>
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<s>最先开始的时候他来北京找工作</s>
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<s>找不着工作</s>
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<s>为了压缩生存的成本</s>
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<s>就开始露宿街头</s>
<time>130_00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:11,400</time>
<s>后来找了一份工作</s>
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<s>他仍然露宿街头</s>
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<s>为什么呀</s>
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<s>因为住宿舍需要花钱</s>
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<s>然后就有人问他</s>
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<s>说你都活成了这样了</s>
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<s>你为什么不回老家</s>
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<s>你回了老家之后好岁你自己有个房住</s>
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<s>这是我们看到的145”的一面</s>
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<s>当你把这个问题问出来的时候</s>
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<s>145”就会让你看到他的另外一面</s>
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<s>他同时也是一个两岁孩子的父亲</s>
<time>142_00:05:33,720 --> 00:05:35,160</time>
<s>然后跟妻子离异之后</s>
<time>143_00:05:35,520 --> 00:05:37,680</time>
<s>孩子就一直是跟着哥哥嫂子一起生活</s>
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<s>所以“145"心里很清楚</s>
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<s>一旦他回家</s>
<time>146_00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,720</time>
<s>哥哥嫂子就要把孩子交给他</s>
<time>147_00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:44,520</time>
<s>他觉得自己没有能力</s>
<time>148_00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:46,320</time>
<s>也不想去抚养他自己的孩子</s>
<time>149_00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,280</time>
<s>所以我们会说有很多的露宿者他之所以露宿街头</s>
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<s>其实是对社会角色的这种不适应</s>
<time>151_00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:55,680</time>
<s>这里面包含他作为父母的角色</s>
<time>152_00:05:56,040 --> 00:05:57,480</time>
<s>包含了作为子女的角色</s>
<time>153_00:05:57,840 --> 00:05:58,560</time>
<s>还有夫妻的角色</s>
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<s>包括一些上下级关系</s>
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<s>有很多人露宿街头</s>
<time>156_00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:05,040</time>
<s>其实都是没有在这种社会角色里面适应</s>
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<s>他宁愿露宿</s>
<time>158_00:06:06,840 --> 00:06:09,000</time>
<s>也不愿意回到他原来的那个环境里面</s>
<time>159_00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:12,600</time>
<s>所以我们说“145"其实是有家不想回</s>
<time>160_00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:13,680</time>
<s>他叫“彩票”</s>
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<s>是我们另外一个特别可爱的服务对象</s>
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<s>“彩票”是北京本地人</s>
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<s>原来的时候因为犯罪被判了十年</s>
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<s>刑满释放之后“彩票”就落下一个病根</s>
<time>165_00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:26,280</time>
<s>就是特别害怕警察</s>
<time>166_00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,800</time>
<s>或者说他害怕的其实不仅仅是警察</s>
<time>167_00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:29,880</time>
<s>是所有的公权力</s>
<time>168_00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,040</time>
<s>他只要看见这种穿着制服的人</s>
<time>169_00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,120</time>
<s>然后他就说不出话来</s>
<time>170_00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:34,200</time>
<s>不知道该怎么说话</s>
<time>171_00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:37,800</time>
<s>然后刑满释放之后他的第一想法是回家</s>
<time>172_00:06:38,160 --> 00:06:39,240</time>
<s>但是家人拒绝接收他</s>
<time>173_00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:40,680</time>
<s>就是不认可他这个人</s>
<time>174_00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:43,560</time>
<s>后来“彩票”又去了街道</s>
<time>175_00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:45,720</time>
<s>去申请他的低保申请救助</s>
<time>176_00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:48,240</time>
<s>我们也不知道别人怎么跟他说的</s>
<time>177_00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,040</time>
<s>但是按照“彩票自己的话说就是</s>
<time>178_00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,560</time>
<s>门难进脸难看话难听</s>
<time>179_00:06:53,280 --> 00:06:53,640</time>
<s>然后我们就说</s>
<time>180_00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:56,880</time>
<s>不对你得继续去跟人家申请去</s>
<time>181_00:06:57,600 --> 00:06:58,320</time>
<s>然后“彩票”就跟我们说</s>
<time>182_00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,760</time>
<s>说不是我不愿意申请</s>
<time>183_00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:01,560</time>
<s>说我就是不愿意跟他们丫较这个劲</s>
<time>184_00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:04,080</time>
<s>所以他宁愿露宿街头</s>
<time>185_00:07:04,440 --> 00:07:05,520</time>
<s>然后每天靠拾荒为生</s>
<time>186_00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,400</time>
<s>也不愿意去再申请救助政策了</s>
<time>187_00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:09,840</time>
<s>“彩票”的生活轨迹是这样的</s>
<time>188_00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:11,640</time>
<s>他白天会推着一辆三轮车</s>
<time>189_00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:13,080</time>
<s>然后满大街地走</s>
<time>190_00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:14,160</time>
<s>翻垃圾桶</s>
<time>191_00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:15,960</time>
<s>捡各种的能卖钱的东西</s>
<time>192_00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,480</time>
<s>到了傍晚的时候他就找了一个废品回收站</s>
<time>193_00:07:19,200 --> 00:07:21,360</time>
<s>然后在里面把这些东西全都卖出去</s>
<time>194_00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:26,040</time>
<s>如果人家废品回收站正好要装这个垃圾车运出北京</s>
<time>195_00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:28,560</time>
<s>那他再帮人把废品给装到垃圾车上</s>
<time>196_00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,440</time>
<s>这么一天下来差不多有不到一百块钱的收入</s>
<time>197_00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:33,240</time>
<s>这一百块钱就很尴尬</s>
<time>198_00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:33,960</time>
<s>就是你吃饭</s>
<time>199_00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:35,760</time>
<s>然后喝水什么的都够</s>
<time>200_00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:39,000</time>
<s>但是如果你想租个房给自己找一个住所就很难</s>
<time>201_00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:42,600</time>
<s>一直到我们给“彩票“服务的第二年</s>
<time>202_00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:45,840</time>
<s>才慢慢地降低了“彩票对这种公权力的畏惧感</s>
<time>203_00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:48,360</time>
<s>我们跟他一起去重新给他申请了低保</s>
<time>204_00:07:49,080 --> 00:07:50,160</time>
<s>但是对于我们来说</s>
<time>205_00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:51,960</time>
<s>这是我们给他服务的第二年</s>
<time>206_00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:53,040</time>
<s>但是对于“彩票“来说</s>
<time>207_00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:54,840</time>
<s>这是他露宿街头的第二十年</s>
<time>208_00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,360</time>
<s>我们刚刚说了有有家不能回的</s>
<time>209_00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:58,440</time>
<s>有不想回的</s>
<time>210_00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:00,600</time>
<s>然后现在我们看到的是“四妹”</s>
<time>211_00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,480</time>
<s>“四妹”是我们同行转介过来的一个个案</s>
<time>212_00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,360</time>
<s>她被老乡带着来北京做生意</s>
<time>213_00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:07,800</time>
<s>他们所谓的生意是什么呢</s>
<time>214_00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,520</time>
<s>就是卖淫</s>
<time>215_00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,040</time>
<s>后来这个卖淫窝点被警方端了</s>
<time>216_00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:13,200</time>
<s>因为“四妹”本身是未成年人</s>
<time>217_00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:15,000</time>
<s>所以警方只对她进行了训诚</s>
<time>218_00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:16,440</time>
<s>然后就给她放出来了</s>
<time>219_00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:18,600</time>
<s>但摆在“四妹”面前的问题是</s>
<time>220_00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:19,320</time>
<s>我出来了</s>
<time>221_00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:20,760</time>
<s>卖淫窝点我肯定回不去</s>
<time>222_00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:22,200</time>
<s>你让我去哪</s>
<time>223_00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:23,280</time>
<s>就是这么个问题</s>
<time>224_00:08:24,000 --> 00:08:24,720</time>
<s>所以同行转过来之后</s>
<time>225_00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:27,600</time>
<s>我们帮“四妹”联系了北京市的未成年人保护中心</s>
<time>226_00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,560</time>
<s>未保中心的人帮“四妹”临时地解决了她的住处</s>
<time>227_00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:33,360</time>
<s>然后以后也会送她回家</s>
<time>228_00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:35,880</time>
<s>但是在这会儿的时候我们自己就琢磨</s>
<time>229_00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:37,320</time>
<s>这姑娘不能这样</s>
<time>230_00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,480</time>
<s>得赶紧跟人家家里面联系一下</s>
<time>231_00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:41,640</time>
<s>让家里面知道有这么一个事</s>
<time>232_00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,800</time>
<s>所以我们就给“四妹”的妈妈打了电话</s>
<time>233_00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:45,240</time>
<s>然后把这个情况跟她说了</s>
<time>234_00:08:45,960 --> 00:08:47,040</time>
<s>然后她妈就问我们</s>
<time>235_00:08:47,400 --> 00:08:49,920</time>
<s>说我们寨子里的姑娘都这样</s>
<time>236_00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,720</time>
<s>不这样的话她们怎么生活</s>
<time>237_00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:53,160</time>
<s>谁给她们钱</s>
<time>238_00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:54,600</time>
<s>后来我们就觉得说</s>
<time>239_00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:56,040</time>
<s>这妈妈不行</s>
<time>240_00:08:56,760 --> 00:08:57,840</time>
<s>得联系她爸爸去</s>
<time>241_00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,000</time>
<s>结果我们就去联系她爸爸</s>
<time>242_00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,440</time>
<s>然后她爸说我在外面打工</s>
<time>243_00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:03,240</time>
<s>说家里的事我不管</s>
<time>244_00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:05,400</time>
<s>你们要是有能力你们就养着</s>
<time>245_00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,480</time>
<s>这闺女送你们了</s>
<time>246_00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:08,280</time>
<s>所以就是这样的情况</s>
<time>247_00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:11,520</time>
<s>这是有家庭在往外把她推</s>
<time>248_00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:14,400</time>
<s>我们刚才说了有家的</s>
<time>249_00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:16,200</time>
<s>咱们现在说没有家的</s>
<time>250_00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:16,920</time>
<s>“道哥"</s>
<time>251_00:09:17,280 --> 00:09:20,520</time>
<s>“道哥”也是我们的一个岁数比较大的服务对象</s>
<time>252_00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,400</time>
<s>“道哥”原来年轻的时候在北京的南城地面上</s>
<time>253_00:09:23,760 --> 00:09:24,840</time>
<s>是有一号的人物</s>
<time>254_00:09:25,560 --> 00:09:27,720</time>
<s>后来年轻的时候因为犯罪投机倒把</s>
<time>255_00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:29,160</time>
<s>被判了十年的劳动改造</s>
<time>256_00:09:30,240 --> 00:09:32,040</time>
<s>然后在他劳改的这时间里面</s>
<time>257_00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,200</time>
<s>劳改农场改制变成了监狱</s>
<time>258_00:09:34,560 --> 00:09:36,000</time>
<s>所以当“道哥”刑满释放的时候</s>
<time>259_00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,600</time>
<s>他手里拿到的是一个监狱开具的释放证明</s>
<time>260_00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:41,760</time>
<s>他拿着释放证明回到了北京</s>
<time>261_00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:43,560</time>
<s>然后找人去重新落户</s>
<time>262_00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:44,280</time>
<s>人家跟他说</s>
<time>263_00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:47,880</time>
<s>说你走的时候是给你发去了劳改农场</s>
<time>264_00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:49,680</time>
<s>你回来的时候给你开证明的是监狱</s>
<time>265_00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:52,920</time>
<s>你得先证明这劳改农场就是这监狱</s>
<time>266_00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,000</time>
<s>然后“道哥”一听</s>
<time>267_00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,800</time>
<s>那我找谁证明去爱谁谁吧</s>
<time>268_00:09:56,160 --> 00:09:57,240</time>
<s>就一破户口不要了</s>
<time>269_00:09:57,600 --> 00:09:58,320</time>
<s>怎么不是活呀</s>
<time>270_00:09:58,680 --> 00:09:59,760</time>
<s>这是“道哥”当时的想法</s>
<time>271_00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,000</time>
<s>所以后面十几年他一直靠着跟朋友做小生意</s>
<time>272_00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:04,440</time>
<s>然后就这么过日子</s>
<time>273_00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,680</time>
<s>结果小生意越做越大两个人准备合伙开公司</s>
<time>274_00:10:08,400 --> 00:10:09,480</time>
<s>然后他朋友就跟他念叻</s>
<time>275_00:10:09,840 --> 00:10:11,280</time>
<s>说你要有一户口就好了</s>
<time>276_00:10:11,640 --> 00:10:13,440</time>
<s>你有户口的话我给你算成股东</s>
<time>277_00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:14,520</time>
<s>咱俩一起赚钱</s>
<time>278_00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:16,680</time>
<s>就在这会儿的时候“道哥”才想着说</s>
<time>279_00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:18,840</time>
<s>我重新地去办一个户口</s>
<time>280_00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:21,360</time>
<s>就在“道哥”做生意的这十几年里</s>
<time>281_00:10:21,720 --> 00:10:23,520</time>
<s>我们正在推行的是无纸化办公</s>
<time>282_00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:25,680</time>
<s>很多的单位就开始用电脑了</s>
<time>283_00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,560</time>
<s>然后再加上“道哥”服刑的这个监狱</s>
<time>284_00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,080</time>
<s>它本身又经历过几次的装修</s>
<time>285_00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,600</time>
<s>所以当“道哥”从北京回到东北的时候</s>
<time>286_00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,760</time>
<s>就出现了一个特别尴尬的情况</s>
<time>287_00:10:36,120 --> 00:10:37,920</time>
<s>就是你提这个人大家都认识</s>
<time>288_00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:40,080</time>
<s>大家都说这个人在我们这服刑过</s>
<time>289_00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:41,520</time>
<s>他是刑满释放出去的</s>
<time>290_00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:42,960</time>
<s>但是你要让开证明</s>
<time>291_00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:43,680</time>
<s>对不起</s>
<time>292_00:10:44,040 --> 00:10:44,400</time>
<s>我们没有底账</s>
<time>293_00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:45,840</time>
<s>我们也没法帮你开</s>
<time>294_00:10:46,560 --> 00:10:49,080</time>
<s>所以后来“道哥”就是北京-东北北京-东北地</s>
<time>295_00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:50,880</time>
<s>两地就这么来回跑</s>
<time>296_00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,560</time>
<s>当他最后一次从黑龙江回到北京的时候</s>
<time>297_00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,000</time>
<s>他已经74了</s>
<time>298_00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,600</time>
<s>他周围跟他同辈的这些亲戚都已经相继离世了</s>
<time>299_00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,040</time>
<s>所以“道哥”突然意识到说</s>
<time>300_00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,560</time>
<s>即便我把这个刑满释放证明开出来</s>
<time>301_00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:06,000</time>
<s>对于我来说也没有用了</s>
<time>302_00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:07,800</time>
<s>因为没有亲属愿意接收他</s>
<time>303_00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:09,600</time>
<s>他只剩了一个小侄子</s>
<time>304_00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,480</time>
<s>小侄子跟他一起没有这样的生活经历</s>
<time>305_00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:13,560</time>
<s>人家也不愿意接收</s>
<time>306_00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,720</time>
<s>所以“道哥”在那会儿的时候就彻底绝望了</s>
<time>307_00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:17,520</time>
<s>于是他选了露宿街头</s>
<time>308_00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,400</time>
<s>我们认识郭爷爷也很好玩</s>
<time>309_00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:21,840</time>
<s>是一个企业老总</s>
<time>310_00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:22,920</time>
<s>然后找到我们</s>
<time>311_00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:26,520</time>
<s>说他们那个写字楼底下常年住着一个老头</s>
<time>312_00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:28,320</time>
<s>那个企业老总就跟我们说</s>
<time>313_00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:33,000</time>
<s>我真的看不了这种岁数大的人在大冬天的露宿街头</s>
<time>314_00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:35,160</time>
<s>我给他租一房找一保姆</s>
<time>315_00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:37,320</time>
<s>我来伺候他终老</s>
<time>316_00:11:37,680 --> 00:11:38,760</time>
<s>你们帮我去问问行不行</s>
<time>317_00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:40,920</time>
<s>然后我们就去找到了“郭爷”</s>
<time>318_00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:42,360</time>
<s>我们问他说</s>
<time>319_00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:43,080</time>
<s>有这么一个情况</s>
<time>320_00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:44,160</time>
<s>您愿不愿意</s>
<time>321_00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:45,600</time>
<s>老头告诉我说不愿意</s>
<time>322_00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:47,400</time>
<s>我今年94了</s>
<time>323_00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:51,360</time>
<s>我是1949年解放军进北京城的时候跟着一起进来的</s>
<time>324_00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,240</time>
<s>他说我原来是山东逃难过来的难民</s>
<time>325_00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,320</time>
<s>我什么没见过</s>
<time>326_00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,840</time>
<s>我现在每天能吃两根火腿肠</s>
<time>327_00:11:58,560 --> 00:11:59,280</time>
<s>能喝上一口白酒</s>
<time>328_00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:00,360</time>
<s>我就挺知足的了</s>
<time>329_00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,600</time>
<s>我这一辈子也没住过带暖气的房子</s>
<time>330_00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:05,400</time>
<s>你给我找一房子把我装进去</s>
<time>331_00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:07,200</time>
<s>拿一暖气天天烤我</s>
<time>332_00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:09,000</time>
<s>你不给我烤死了</s>
<time>333_00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,960</time>
<s>我们就又跟郭爷爷聊才发现说</s>
<time>334_00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,120</time>
<s>他不愿意离开这个地还有一个原因</s>
<time>335_00:12:15,480 --> 00:12:17,640</time>
<s>就是他的确在这住的时间太长了</s>
<time>336_00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:19,080</time>
<s>差不多40年的时间</s>
<time>337_00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:20,880</time>
<s>所以地面上发生的事</s>
<time>338_00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:21,960</time>
<s>地面上的人</s>
<time>339_00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:23,040</time>
<s>他都知道很多</s>
<time>340_00:12:23,760 --> 00:12:25,560</time>
<s>所以有的时候老民警带新徒弟的时候</s>
<time>341_00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,720</time>
<s>就带着徒弟过来找他</s>
<time>342_00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:29,880</time>
<s>当着那个新徒弟就跟郭爷爷说</s>
<time>343_00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:33,120</time>
<s>这个人知道我们这好多事</s>
<time>344_00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:34,200</time>
<s>你要有什么不懂的</s>
<time>345_00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:36,360</time>
<s>你没事多过来跟老爷子请教</s>
<time>346_00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:39,240</time>
<s>所以这种事情让郭爷爷自己很自豪</s>
<time>347_00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:40,680</time>
<s>按他自己话说就是</s>
<time>348_00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:42,480</time>
<s>我在这人家还认识我</s>
<time>349_00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:43,200</time>
<s>我如果离开这</s>
<time>350_00:12:43,560 --> 00:12:44,280</time>
<s>我什么都不是</s>
<time>351_00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,080</time>
<s>还有一些人</s>
<time>352_00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:47,880</time>
<s>比如说我们刚认识的时候</s>
<time>353_00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:48,960</time>
<s>“老高”就是这样的</s>
<time>354_00:12:49,680 --> 00:12:50,760</time>
<s>你完全不知道他在说什么</s>
<time>355_00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:53,280</time>
<s>你感觉他脑子好像是有一点问题</s>
<time>356_00:12:53,640 --> 00:12:55,080</time>
<s>我们刚开始去见“老高”的时候</s>
<time>357_00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:56,520</time>
<s>“老高”第一句话就问我们</s>
<time>358_00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:57,600</time>
<s>说你练功吗</s>
<time>359_00:12:58,320 --> 00:12:59,760</time>
<s>然后我们就说练什么功</s>
<time>360_00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,920</time>
<s>老高”说我在这练《易筋经》</s>
<time>361_00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:03,720</time>
<s>我跟你说你没事别打扰我</s>
<time>362_00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:04,800</time>
<s>你赶紧走赶紧走赶紧走</s>
<time>363_00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:05,880</time>
<s>就轰走了</s>
<time>364_00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,840</time>
<s>你看这就是我们所说的这些露宿者</s>
<time>365_00:13:10,200 --> 00:13:13,080</time>
<s>我们真的很难去把他们进行具体的分类</s>
<time>366_00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,240</time>
<s>说他们一定是某一种人</s>
<time>367_00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:17,400</time>
<s>或者一定是某一个样子的</s>
<time>368_00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:18,480</time>
<s>我们很难去归类</s>
<time>369_00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:19,920</time>
<s>但是我们会说</s>
<time>370_00:13:20,280 --> 00:13:23,160</time>
<s>每一个露宿者其实都是生活在一座孤岛上</s>
<time>371_00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,680</time>
<s>他们有的是被自己的身体困住了</s>
<time>372_00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:27,840</time>
<s>有的是被自己的社会角色困住了</s>
<time>373_00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,000</time>
<s>有的人可能就是被自己的一个想法</s>
<time>374_00:13:30,360 --> 00:13:31,800</time>
<s>或者是一个心结给困住了</s>
<time>375_00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:36,480</time>
<s>我们社工要做的就是尝试带他们从孤岛里面走出来</s>
<time>376_00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:40,800</time>
<s>社工其实会有很多的专业方法专业伦理价值观</s>
<time>377_00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:45,120</time>
<s>但这些东西在刚开始接触露宿者的时候都不重要</s>
<time>378_00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:46,200</time>
<s>重要的是什么</s>
<time>379_00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:46,920</time>
<s>就是破冰</s>
<time>380_00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:50,520</time>
<s>我们所谓的破冰就是该怎么去跟这些露宿街头朋友</s>
<time>381_00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:51,960</time>
<s>去建立信任关系</s>
<time>382_00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:54,120</time>
<s>其实跟这些露宿者一样</s>
<time>383_00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:58,080</time>
<s>对每个人的破冰也都是没有这种共性可以找的</s>
<time>384_00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:00,240</time>
<s>像有的人他就特别好说</s>
<time>385_00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:01,680</time>
<s>你一根烟递过去</s>
<time>386_00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:04,920</time>
<s>然后他就愿意去跟你聊他为什么露宿街头</s>
<time>387_00:14:05,280 --> 00:14:06,360</time>
<s>他现在需不需要你的帮助</s>
<time>388_00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,160</time>
<s>他想要什么样的一个帮助</s>
<time>389_00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:09,600</time>
<s>就直接跟你交底了</s>
<time>390_00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:10,320</time>
<s>聊得很嗨</s>
<time>391_00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,560</time>
<s>然后有的人你可能要去四次五次六次</s>
<time>392_00:14:13,920 --> 00:14:16,080</time>
<s>他才会慢慢地放下对你的戒心</s>
<time>393_00:14:16,440 --> 00:14:18,600</time>
<s>然后有的人你就必须要进到他的世界里面</s>
<time>394_00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,120</time>
<s>比如他觉得他自己身体里被植入芯片了</s>
<time>395_00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,360</time>
<s>然后你就得真的去相信他身体里面被植入了芯片</s>
<time>396_00:14:24,720 --> 00:14:26,160</time>
<s>然后有人在远程操纵他</s>
<time>397_00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:27,600</time>
<s>现在他正在跟你说话</s>
<time>398_00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:30,840</time>
<s>然后有的人会每天在井盖上跳</s>
<time>399_00:14:31,200 --> 00:14:33,360</time>
<s>见到井盖就跳一下</s>
<time>400_00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:35,160</time>
<s>他觉得他自己在封印井盖</s>
<time>401_00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,760</time>
<s>那你就真的得相信井盖里面的确埋着什么脏的东西</s>
<time>402_00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:40,560</time>
<s>必须只有他才能封印</s>
<time>403_00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:43,080</time>
<s>你只有进到了他的那个精神世界里面</s>
<time>404_00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:45,600</time>
<s>他才会觉得说你跟他是可以对话的</s>
<time>405_00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:46,680</time>
<s>你跟他是一路人</s>
<time>406_00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,280</time>
<s>当然还有一种很奇怪的情况就是</s>
<time>407_00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,440</time>
<s>我也不太确定是</s>
<time>408_00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:54,600</time>
<s>露宿者拿我们开玩笑还是真的就这样的</s>
<time>409_00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:56,400</time>
<s>就是他只跟你说英语</s>
<time>410_00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,360</time>
<s>所以你就会看到一个很奇妙的场景</s>
<time>411_00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:02,880</time>
<s>就是两个中国人在大街上</s>
<time>412_00:15:03,240 --> 00:15:06,120</time>
<s>都用非常整脚的英语在那聊天</s>
<time>413_00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:09,720</time>
<s>大概就是聊Why-you sleephere？</s><s>这些东西</s>
<time>414_00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,680</time>
<s>所以破冰的方式真的没有一个通用的方法</s>
<time>415_00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:15,840</time>
<s>但是一旦破冰结束之后</s>
<time>416_00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:19,080</time>
<s>你就会看到另外一个完全不一样的他们</s>
<time>417_00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,520</time>
<s>比如说我们刚才提到的“老高”</s>
<time>418_00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,400</time>
<s>我们刚开始过去的时候他问我们练不练功</s>
<time>419_00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:24,480</time>
<s>后来他说</s>
<time>420_00:15:24,840 --> 00:15:26,280</time>
<s>你要是想跟我一起练</s>
<time>421_00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,440</time>
<s>那你就得先去练少林长拳</s>
<time>422_00:15:29,160 --> 00:15:30,960</time>
<s>然后说我练这《易筋经》</s>
<time>423_00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,480</time>
<s>你得先练完你才能明白《易筋经》怎么回事</s>
<time>424_00:15:33,840 --> 00:15:36,000</time>
<s>我们肯定自己不会去练这个少林长拳</s>
<time>425_00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:38,880</time>
<s>然后我们就买了一本《图解少林长拳》</s>
<time>426_00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:40,320</time>
<s>看了几页</s>
<time>427_00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:41,760</time>
<s>回来找他</s>
<time>428_00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:43,560</time>
<s>然后说这个什么意思那个什么意思</s>
<time>429_00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:46,080</time>
<s>后来我们发现“老高”自己好像也不是太懂</s>
<time>430_00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:47,160</time>
<s>然后我们就说</s>
<time>431_00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:48,240</time>
<s>说你好像也不懂</s>
<time>432_00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:49,320</time>
<s>然后“老高“说不对</s>
<time>433_00:15:49,680 --> 00:15:50,040</time>
<s>我跟你说错了</s>
<time>434_00:15:50,400 --> 00:15:51,480</time>
<s>说不是少林长拳</s>
<time>435_00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:53,280</time>
<s>你们得先去练《洗髓经》去</s>
<time>436_00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:55,800</time>
<s>我们说《洗髓经》哪练去</s>
<time>437_00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,400</time>
<s>然后我们又买了本《洗髓经图解》</s>
<time>438_00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,200</time>
<s>反正就是《一张图说懂洗髓经》</s>
<time>439_00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:02,640</time>
<s>就大概那个意思的东西</s>
<time>440_00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:04,440</time>
<s>然后我们就又过来问他</s>
<time>441_00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:06,240</time>
<s>后来发现说“老高也不太懂</s>
<time>442_00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:09,840</time>
<s>这是他一直把自己包裹成一个练功的外衣</s>
<time>443_00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,000</time>
<s>当这层外衣慢慢脱下的时候</s>
<time>444_00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:13,800</time>
<s>我们就看到了另外一个“老高”</s>
<time>445_00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:15,240</time>
<s>在他的逻辑里面</s>
<time>446_00:16:15,600 --> 00:16:16,320</time>
<s>他之所以练功</s>
<time>447_00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,560</time>
<s>是为了让自己看起来每天不是那么正常</s>
<time>448_00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:22,440</time>
<s>他之所以让自己看起来每天不是那么正常</s>
<time>449_00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,320</time>
<s>是因为一旦有人过来轰他的时候</s>
<time>450_00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,120</time>
<s>让他离开这个地方的时候</s>
<time>451_00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:30,360</time>
<s>他就可以把自己变得真的不那么正常</s>
<time>452_00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:33,600</time>
<s>你知道就一般人我们不会去跟一个你看起来不正常</s>
<time>453_00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:35,400</time>
<s>或者咱们说叫神经病</s>
<time>454_00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:36,840</time>
<s>不会跟这些人去较劲</s>
<time>455_00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,080</time>
<s>所以“老高”就能保住他露宿的地方</s>
<time>456_00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:41,160</time>
<s>他就不用搬家</s>
<time>457_00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:42,960</time>
<s>这就是“老高”的逻辑</s>
<time>458_00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:44,760</time>
<s>后来我们就问他说</s>
<time>459_00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,480</time>
<s>你一北京人</s>
<time>460_00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:47,280</time>
<s>然后又符合政策申请的条件</s>
<time>461_00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,080</time>
<s>你为什么不去申请公租房</s>
<time>462_00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:50,520</time>
<s>然后“老高”就说</s>
<time>463_00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:51,240</time>
<s>我申了</s>
<time>464_00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:52,320</time>
<s>他们不给我</s>
<time>465_00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:54,120</time>
<s>然后我们一听说这事不太可能</s>
<time>466_00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:55,560</time>
<s>就跑到街道去问去了</s>
<time>467_00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,720</time>
<s>然后人家街道的工作人员就跟我们说</s>
<time>468_00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,240</time>
<s>“老高”的确过来咨询过</s>
<time>469_00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:01,680</time>
<s>但是连表都没填</s>
<time>470_00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:03,840</time>
<s>然后他就走了消失了</s>
<time>471_00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:06,000</time>
<s>我们又回去找“老高”对质</s>
<time>472_00:17:06,360 --> 00:17:08,880</time>
<s>就在这会儿的时候“老高”才给我们交了实底</s>
<time>473_00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:11,400</time>
<s>说我其实不太识字</s>
<time>474_00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:14,640</time>
<s>人家让我填表的时候我又怕别人看不起我</s>
<time>475_00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:15,720</time>
<s>我就没填</s>
<time>476_00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,680</time>
<s>所以后来我们就帮他一步一步地去申请公租房</s>
<time>477_00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:21,120</time>
<s>因为他年龄超了六十</s>
<time>478_00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,000</time>
<s>又符合公租房的优先轮候的政策</s>
<time>479_00:17:24,360 --> 00:17:26,520</time>
<s>所以很快地他就有了自己的这么一套房</s>
<time>480_00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:27,960</time>
<s>咱们先不说住的事</s>
<time>481_00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,400</time>
<s>他有了这套房</s>
<time>482_00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,560</time>
<s>然后我们带他去看房子</s>
<time>483_00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,360</time>
<s>一直到“老高”看见了这套公租房</s>
<time>484_00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,160</time>
<s>在公租房里面做了签领</s>
<time>485_00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:36,240</time>
<s>取了钥匙</s>
<time>486_00:17:36,600 --> 00:17:37,680</time>
<s>他还在那跟我们念叻</s>
<time>487_00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:38,760</time>
<s>这房子不行</s>
<time>488_00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:40,560</time>
<s>这个离市区太远</s>
<time>489_00:17:40,920 --> 00:17:42,000</time>
<s>我还得回市区住</s>
<time>490_00:17:42,360 --> 00:17:45,600</time>
<s>其实“老高”当时的这套公租房条件还是很好的</s>
<time>491_00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:46,680</time>
<s>人家都给装修好了</s>
<time>492_00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,480</time>
<s>什么抽油烟机煤气灶</s>
<time>493_00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,360</time>
<s>后来我们又给他筹了一点锅碗瓢盆</s>
<time>494_00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:52,800</time>
<s>让他在里面去生活</s>
<time>495_00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,680</time>
<s>结果在后来的两个月里面</s>
<time>496_00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:57,480</time>
<s>“老高”只回了市区两趟</s>
<time>497_00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,560</time>
<s>然后过来都是找我们</s>
<time>498_00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:00,720</time>
<s>其中有一趟是过来还手机</s>
<time>499_00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:02,880</time>
<s>因为当时申请公租房的时候</s>
<time>500_00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:04,320</time>
<s>为了联系他更方便</s>
<time>501_00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,120</time>
<s>我们曾经借了“老高”一部手机</s>
<time>502_00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:07,920</time>
<s>然后他住到公租房里之后</s>
<time>503_00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,720</time>
<s>慢慢地能一点钱了</s>
<time>504_00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:10,800</time>
<s>他就想着说</s>
<time>505_00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:12,240</time>
<s>我自己得有一部手机</s>
<time>506_00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:13,680</time>
<s>你这手机是我借的</s>
<time>507_00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:14,760</time>
<s>那有借就得有还</s>
<time>508_00:18:15,120 --> 00:18:16,200</time>
<s>我现在就得还给你们</s>
<time>509_00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,080</time>
<s>将来你们帮其他人的时候还得用得着这个手机</s>
<time>510_00:18:19,800 --> 00:18:21,960</time>
<s>所以其实我们的工作也都是</s>
<time>511_00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,400</time>
<s>就在这一点一滴里面</s>
<time>512_00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,280</time>
<s>其实也在被露宿者感动着</s>
<time>513_00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,800</time>
<s>咱们说像“老高”这种情况是我们</s>
<time>514_00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:30,600</time>
<s>得一步一步推着他往前走</s>
<time>515_00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:31,680</time>
<s>这是“小陈"</s>
<time>516_00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,560</time>
<s>其实也是一个来北京找工作的姑娘</s>
<time>517_00:18:34,920 --> 00:18:36,720</time>
<s>但是对自己的期望可能有点高</s>
<time>518_00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:39,600</time>
<s>她来了之后就觉得说我肯定能找到工作</s>
<time>519_00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:41,760</time>
<s>然后面试了几家单位</s>
<time>520_00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:42,840</time>
<s>人家都不要她</s>
<time>521_00:18:43,200 --> 00:18:44,280</time>
<s>她自己也不知道为什么</s>
<time>522_00:18:44,640 --> 00:18:46,440</time>
<s>很快地带来的钱就花的差不多了</s>
<time>523_00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:47,520</time>
<s>原来住旅馆</s>
<time>524_00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:48,960</time>
<s>后来没办法没钱了</s>
<time>525_00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:50,040</time>
<s>就开始住大街上</s>
<time>526_00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:51,840</time>
<s>住的时间长了之后</s>
<time>527_00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:53,280</time>
<s>身上也有味了</s>
<time>528_00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,520</time>
<s>而且你露宿街头的时候其实跟别人的交流很少</s>
<time>529_00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,480</time>
<s>所以慢慢地说话也不是那么利索</s>
<time>530_00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:01,920</time>
<s>不是很喜欢跟人交流</s>
<time>531_00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:03,720</time>
<s>那遇见这种情况怎么办</s>
<time>532_00:19:04,080 --> 00:19:05,160</time>
<s>我们先从改变形象开始</s>
<time>533_00:19:05,880 --> 00:19:06,960</time>
<s>我们帮她找了个地儿</s>
<time>534_00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:08,040</time>
<s>重新洗了个澡</s>
<time>535_00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,480</time>
<s>重新梳了梳头发</s>
<time>536_00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:11,280</time>
<s>盘到一起显得利索一点</s>
<time>537_00:19:11,640 --> 00:19:13,440</time>
<s>然后又突击式地开始跟她说</s>
<time>538_00:19:13,800 --> 00:19:17,400</time>
<s>你找工作的时候你应该怎么介绍自己</s>
