<time>556_00:22:41,520 --> 00:22:43,680</time>
<s>我千里跑到山上去看它</s>
<time>557_00:22:45,120 --> 00:22:47,280</time>
<s>它将它身体的所有的能量</s>
<time>558_00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:51,960</time>
<s>很用力很用力地寄托在这一条小树枝上</s>
<time>559_00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:53,760</time>
<s>我非常地感动</s>
<time>560_00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:54,840</time>
<s>因为它告诉我</s>
<time>561_00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,080</time>
<s>请保留我的第二代</s>
<time>562_00:22:59,520 --> 00:23:01,680</time>
<s>所以我开始养它的根</s>
<time>563_00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,000</time>
<s>养了将近三四年以上</s>
<time>564_00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,520</time>
<s>终于促成它的第二代</s>
<time>565_00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:09,600</time>
<s>花也开了</s>
<time>566_00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,760</time>
<s>所以我就功成身退</s>
<time>567_00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:13,200</time>
<s>我说我再也不要来看你</s>
<time>568_00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:14,640</time>
<s>我对着这一棵树说</s>
<time>569_00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:15,720</time>
<s>请你继续加油吧</s>
<time>570_00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:25,080</time>
<s>但是说真的</s>
<time>571_00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:26,880</time>
<s>树木医的树永远都救不完</s>
<time>572_00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:30,840</time>
<s>所以我们要帮树找好的家很重要</s>
<time>573_00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,360</time>
<s>因为预防胜于治疗</s>
<time>574_00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:35,160</time>
<s>平常不好好照顾</s>
<time>575_00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,040</time>
<s>我们后面生病要吃药已经来不及了</s>
<time>576_00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,720</time>
<s>最近很流行在都市里面种树</s>
<time>577_00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,680</time>
<s>这一张照片是意天利米兰</s>
<time>578_00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,560</time>
<s>米兰非常地爱树</s>
<time>579_00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:52,440</time>
<s>他们在这里制造一个垂直的森林</s>
<time>580_00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,760</time>
<s>他们是有一个优的气候环境</s>
<time>581_00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,360</time>
<s>甚至他们会替这个树安排一个地方</s>
<time>582_00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:01,800</time>
<s>如果你突然不舒服</s>
<time>583_00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:02,880</time>
<s>突然你想死了</s>
<time>584_00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,560</time>
<s>我帮你移到别的地方调养一段时间请你再回来</s>
<time>585_00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:09,360</time>
<s>多好啊</s>
<time>586_00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:10,800</time>
<s>可是在台湾</s>
<time>587_00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,040</time>
<s>我们并没有像它们一样这么好的气候环境</s>
<time>588_00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:15,480</time>
<s>更不用想什么</s>
<time>589_00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:19,080</time>
<s>突然身体不好请你过去住一下请你回来</s>
<time>590_00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:19,800</time>
<s>我们没有</s>
<time>591_00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:21,960</time>
<s>还有一个大问题</s>
<time>592_00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,920</time>
<s>这个大楼是螺旋状的</s>
<time>593_00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,360</time>
<s>风多大啊</s>
<time>594_00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:28,440</time>
<s>台湾台风那么多</s>
<time>595_00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:29,520</time>
<s>这样还得了</s>
<time>596_00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:30,960</time>
<s>日照都不一样</s>
<time>597_00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:32,040</time>
<s>东西南北都不一样</s>
<time>598_00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:35,280</time>
<s>这个是一个对自然的挑战</s>
<time>599_00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:41,760</time>
<s>所以我负责帮他们做这样一个规划</s>
<time>600_00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:43,920</time>
<s>我是为了要做一个标榜</s>
<time>601_00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:45,720</time>
<s>让大家了解</s>
<time>602_00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:47,880</time>
<s>我们在一个非自然环境</s>
<time>603_00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:50,400</time>
<s>要创造一个自然奇迹真的不容易</s>
<time>604_00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:52,920</time>
<s>如果这个标榜成功了</s>
<time>605_00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520</time>
<s>我想会有更多人想要照顾树爱上树</s>
<time>606_00:24:57,600 --> 00:24:58,680</time>
<s>第一个前提就是</s>
<time>607_00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:01,200</time>
<s>我必须要去掌握它的微气候</s>
<time>608_00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:03,000</time>
<s>微气候是什么</s>
<time>609_00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:04,080</time>
<s>风怎么吹</s>
<time>610_00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,520</time>
<s>有些树喜欢风</s>
<time>611_00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:06,600</time>
<s>有些树讨厌风</s>
<time>612_00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:08,040</time>
<s>所以我们要做风的模拟</s>
<time>613_00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:10,200</time>
<s>另外一方面</s>
<time>614_00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:12,720</time>
<s>有些树它喜欢日照</s>
<time>615_00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:14,160</time>
<s>像紫薇它就要日照</s>
<time>616_00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:15,240</time>
<s>樱花要日照</s>
<time>617_00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:16,680</time>
<s>这个时候我们要干吗呢</s>
<time>618_00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:17,760</time>
<s>我帮它预测</s>
<time>619_00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:19,920</time>
<s>模拟它的日照环境</s>
<time>620_00:25:21,000 --> 00:25:22,440</time>
<s>根据这样一个微气候</s>
<time>621_00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:27,120</time>
<s>我帮它调配一个叫做适地适木的概念</s>
<time>622_00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:28,560</time>
<s>也就是帮树找家</s>
<time>623_00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,160</time>
<s>我们要帮树找家之前我们要做一个验证</s>
<time>624_00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,040</time>
<s>像我们在自己的办公大楼外面</s>
<time>625_00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,480</time>
<s>有苗圃建议说</s>
<time>626_00:25:36,840 --> 00:25:38,280</time>
<s>你看这个树多漂亮</s>
<time>627_00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:39,720</time>
<s>快点来种</s>
<time>628_00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:40,800</time>
<s>我给你种看看</s>
<time>629_00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,960</time>
<s>不到一个月开始叶子就掉了</s>
<time>630_00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,280</time>
<s>掉完之后已经快死了</s>
<time>631_00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:50,520</time>
<s>这个时候他们就请问我说</s>
<time>632_00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:52,320</time>
<s>老师请问一下我们该种什么</s>
<time>633_00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:53,400</time>
<s>我说你全部换了吧</s>
<time>634_00:25:54,120 --> 00:25:55,200</time>
<s>我们改成光蜡树</s>
<time>635_00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:57,360</time>
<s>不用三个月</s>
<time>636_00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:59,520</time>
<s>你看它长得多茂盛</s>
<time>637_00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,120</time>
<s>所以帮树找家是非常非常地重要</s>
<time>638_00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,960</time>
<s>我当了这一栋大楼的指导</s>
<time>639_00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:13,560</time>
<s>除了要帮他们预测所谓的风日照以外</s>
<time>640_00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:15,000</time>
<s>还有一件最重要的事情</s>
<time>641_00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:16,800</time>
<s>就是我要钦点树木</s>
<time>642_00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,680</time>
<s>每一种树它有一种气势</s>
<time>643_00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:21,480</time>
<s>就像人一样</s>
<time>644_00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,000</time>
<s>站在这里就很有霸气</s>
<time>645_00:26:24,360 --> 00:26:25,800</time>
<s>站在那边就缩成一团</s>
<time>646_00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:27,240</time>
<s>树也是</s>
<time>647_00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:29,760</time>
<s>所以我必须要到现场去钦点</s>
<time>648_00:26:30,120 --> 00:26:30,840</time>
<s>OK你可以来</s>
<time>649_00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:32,640</time>
<s>请预备</s>
<time>650_00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:33,720</time>
<s>预备干吗</s>
<time>651_00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:34,800</time>
<s>断根养根</s>
<time>652_00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,040</time>
<s>然后我要帮它选一个良辰吉日进场</s>
<time>653_00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:40,560</time>
<s>所以我必须要到现场去钦点</s>
<time>654_00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:42,360</time>
<s>这一张就是我们的照片</s>
<time>655_00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:44,520</time>
<s>我们要怎么选树呢</s>
<time>656_00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,320</time>
<s>我们当然要找强壮的</s>
<time>657_00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,480</time>
<s>叶子越大越好</s>
<time>658_00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:50,280</time>
<s>越虚弱的当然不能来</s>
<time>659_00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:52,440</time>
<s>你来我还要帮你们治疗那还得了</s>
<time>660_00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,400</time>
<s>所以我们在选树的时候会根据它的树型</s>
<time>661_00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,920</time>
<s>叶子的量叶子的大小</s>
<time>662_00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:01,440</time>
<s>做一个调整一个筛选</s>
<time>663_00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:03,960</time>
<s>还有一个问题</s>
<time>664_00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:05,040</time>
<s>我刚才讲了</s>
<time>665_00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,920</time>
<s>我们那个基地的风非常非常地大</s>
<time>666_00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,360</time>
<s>怎么办呢</s>
<time>667_00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,680</time>
<s>原则是我们不能找一个对风没有办法的树</s>
<time>668_00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,560</time>
<s>所以像这一棵树它是“V字型的</s>
<time>669_00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:19,440</time>
<s>也就是说它从小苗长上来的时候</s>
<time>670_00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:24,120</time>
<s>是两个小苗肩靠肩</s>
<time>671_00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,200</time>
<s>最后变成"V"字</s>
<time>672_00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,080</time>
<s>然后风一吹的话你跟我就分开了</s>
<time>673_00:27:29,160 --> 00:27:29,880</time>
<s>“U"字型是什么</s>
<time>674_00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:31,320</time>
<s>本来是两枝小苗</s>
<time>675_00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:33,840</time>
<s>实在是靠太近最后粘起来了</s>
<time>676_00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:36,360</time>
<s>然后结合在一起</s>
<time>677_00:27:37,080 --> 00:27:38,520</time>
<s>所以我们看它的树干</s>
<time>678_00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:41,400</time>
<s>里面的年轮基本上是结合在一起</s>
<time>679_00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:43,920</time>
<s>像这样的树它就可以抗风</s>
<time>680_00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,160</time>
<s>所以我们在筛选上面是非常非常地严格的</s>
<time>681_00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:49,680</time>
<s>还有一个问题</s>
<time>682_00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:51,840</time>
<s>这些树都种在大楼里面</s>
<time>683_00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:55,440</time>
<s>如果我们种了五年十年以后</s>
<time>684_00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,960</time>
<s>它突然变成一棵大树的时候怎么办呢</s>
<time>685_00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:00,120</time>
<s>整栋楼就会垮了</s>
<time>686_00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,560</time>
<s>所以我们必须要预测</s>
<time>687_00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,080</time>
<s>哪些树是慢慢慢慢长</s>
<time>688_00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:08,400</time>
<s>我们要让它的楼层可以承受它的承载</s>
<time>689_00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,280</time>
<s>所以我拿一个简单的例子</s>
<time>690_00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,440</time>
<s>也许这张图看得不是那么明显</s>
<time>691_00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:14,880</time>
<s>我们就看橘色的</s>
<time>692_00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:18,480</time>
<s>橘色的这一棵树叫做黄杨</s>
<time>693_00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,360</time>
<s>我们刚种下去的时候它长得好快</s>
<time>694_00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,600</time>
<s>但是五年以后它突然不动了</s>
<time>695_00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,760</time>
<s>它就永远保持原形</s>
<time>696_00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,640</time>
<s>这样的树就很适合种在楼层上</s>
<time>697_00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:31,800</time>
<s>我们再看一下</s>
<time>698_00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,320</time>
<s>像蓝色这一部分</s>
<time>699_00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,120</time>
<s>这个叫南天竹</s>
<time>700_00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,640</time>
<s>刚开始长得稍微有一点快</s>
<time>701_00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,880</time>
<s>后面慢慢慢慢</s>
<time>702_00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:43,680</time>
<s>越来越快</s>
<time>703_00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:45,480</time>
<s>这个树有什么问题</s>
<time>704_00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:47,640</time>
<s>它会越来越肥胖越来越肥胖</s>
<time>705_00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:50,520</time>
<s>最后它就可能会压垮我们的大楼</s>
<time>706_00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,480</time>
<s>所以我们要把所有的树木的特性全部掌握</s>
<time>707_00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:58,080</time>
<s>长得快慢全部都要去理解</s>
<time>708_00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:00,960</time>
<s>除了这些</s>
<time>709_00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:02,400</time>
<s>我还要到现场</s>
<time>710_00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:04,920</time>
<s>比如说我们的树到了</s>
<time>711_00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,440</time>
<s>我要到现场去勘察去确认</s>
<time>712_00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,240</time>
<s>确认什么</s>
<time>713_00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:11,400</time>
<s>这一张照片我在看这个叶子</s>
<time>714_00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,280</time>
<s>可能大家想说我是不是在检查叶子的大小</s>
<time>715_00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:15,000</time>
<s>不是</s>
<time>716_00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:16,800</time>
<s>因为树也会长虱子</s>
<time>717_00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:18,600</time>
<s>它会躲在叶子里面</s>
<time>718_00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:23,280</time>
<s>所以我必须一个一个叶子仔细地检查</s>
<time>719_00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:24,360</time>
<s>最后我也想讲</s>
<time>720_00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:25,800</time>
<s>像这样的案子在台湾</s>
<time>721_00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:27,960</time>
<s>是台湾首座的垂直森林</s>
<time>722_00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,760</time>
<s>对我是一个挑战</s>
<time>723_00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:31,200</time>
<s>对树木也是一个挑战</s>
<time>724_00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:36,600</time>
<s>但是我的立场是我尊重自然我尊重树木</s>
<time>725_00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:42,000</time>
<s>我只是非常非常地坚持帮树找好家</s>
<time>726_00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,960</time>
<s>目的就是希望住在这里的树能够永续</s>
<time>727_00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:48,840</time>
<s>能够很开心地住在这里</s>
<time>728_00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:52,800</time>
<s>然后跟人是一个共生的概念</s>
<time>729_00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,480</time>
<s>这一栋大楼可能在明年这时候就落成</s>
<time>730_00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:01,800</time>
<s>我希望大家有机会也可以跟我一起去见证</s>
<time>731_00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,240</time>
<s>然后我们期待</s>
<time>732_00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:08,280</time>
<s>让这样的一个森林能够实现在都市里面</s>
<time>733_00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:12,960</time>
<s>最后我要让大家看这一张照片</s>
<time>734_00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,480</time>
<s>这一棵树的位置在东京大学农学院</s>
<time>735_00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360</time>
<s>我的青春岁月全部贡献给它了</s>
<time>736_00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:20,160</time>
<s>为什么呢</s>
<time>737_00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,120</time>
<s>因为这一棵树在我做研究时期的时候</s>
<time>738_00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,280</time>
<s>给我很大的鼓励</s>
<time>739_00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,520</time>
<s>每当我怎么读都读不顺的时候我就敲敲打打</s>
<time>740_00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:30,960</time>
<s>你直接告诉我不就得了吗</s>
<time>741_00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:32,760</time>
<s>要不然我读那么多书读得好累</s>
<time>742_00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,000</time>
<s>所以我常常坐到树下跟它聊天</s>
<time>743_00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:37,440</time>
<s>然后别人都去约会</s>
<time>744_00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,240</time>
<s>我一个人爬到树上看它</s>
<time>745_00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,480</time>
<s>它是我的精神支持</s>
<time>746_00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:45,000</time>
<s>也是我的树木导师</s>
<time>747_00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:47,520</time>
<s>所以我一直很感谢这一棵树</s>
<time>748_00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:50,760</time>
<s>今天有这样的机会在这里</s>
<time>749_00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,280</time>
<s>跟大家分享树木的一些基本概念</s>
<time>750_00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:56,160</time>
<s>我希望大家听了我这一席话</s>
<time>751_00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:01,560</time>
<s>从今天开始跟我一样能够爱护树木喜欢树木</s>
<time>752_00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:03,360</time>
<s>谢谢大家</s>
