<time>535_00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:25,080</time>
<s>岁数也偏大</s>
<time>536_00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960</time>
<s>所以说她们不是像一般的女同那样是自己生孩子</s>
<time>537_00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,760</time>
<s>而是选择到美国去代孕</s>
<time>538_00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:33,360</time>
<s>安妮的故事其实除了关于这个代孕的选择</s>
<time>539_00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,160</time>
<s>有点不同寻常以外</s>
<time>540_00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,760</time>
<s>让我印象特别深刻的是她和她的一些同志朋友</s>
<time>541_00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:42,000</time>
<s>所构建的一个小型的同志乌托邦</s>
<time>542_00:26:42,360 --> 00:26:44,160</time>
<s>那个小型的乌托邦之所以能出现</s>
<time>543_00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:49,560</time>
<s>其实还要归功于一项影响同志的地方性政策</s>
<time>544_00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:51,720</time>
<s>我不知道有没有上海的朋友</s>
<time>545_00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:52,800</time>
<s>在上海</s>
<time>546_00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,400</time>
<s>如果是你自己有居住证而没有上海户口的未婚人士</s>
<time>547_00:26:57,120 --> 00:26:58,920</time>
<s>你是不能够买普通住宅的</s>
<time>548_00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,800</time>
<s>你就只能买商住两用楼</s>
<time>549_00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:07,200</time>
<s>所以说在安妮和她的伴侣所居住的楼里</s>
<time>550_00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,800</time>
<s>她后来发现左邻右舍不少都是同志</s>
<time>551_00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:15,480</time>
<s>日为大家都被这个好像歧视性的政策影响到这儿住，</s>
<time>552_00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,720</time>
<s>大家长期你来我往互相走动</s>
<time>553_00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:19,440</time>
<s>最后很熟了</s>
<time>554_00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:20,520</time>
<s>甚至还一起搞会所</s>
<time>555_00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:21,600</time>
<s>除此之外</s>
<time>556_00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,560</time>
<s>安妮还有一帮关系特别密切的拉拉姐妹</s>
<time>557_00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:26,640</time>
<s>十平时安妮忙</s>
<time>558_00:27:27,360 --> 00:27:29,880</time>
<s>她们可以帮助安妮家照看孩子</s>
<time>559_00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:30,600</time>
<s>+</s>
<time>560_00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,200</time>
<s>让拉拉姐妹需要买房子需要用钱</s>
<time>561_00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:37,800</time>
<s>巧安妮和她的伴侣也是力所能及地给予支持</s>
<time>562_00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,320</time>
<s>土所以在这个陌生的大城市里面</s>
<time>563_00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:41,040</time>
<s>士</s>
<time>564_00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,280</time>
<s>这帮情投意合的圈内人就成了家人</s>
<time>565_00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:51,120</time>
<s>最后我想谈谈今天中国的同志家庭的实践</s>
<time>566_00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,000</time>
<s>对社会大众有些什么启示</s>
<time>567_00:27:54,360 --> 00:27:56,160</time>
<s>我们以前都会预设</s>
<time>568_00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,680</time>
<s>生育只有通过异性恋才能实现</s>
<time>569_00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,200</time>
<s>看看今天中国的社会</s>
<time>570_00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:06,960</time>
<s>城市里面好多异性恋夫妻也选择丁克的生活方式</s>
<time>571_00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:08,760</time>
<s>反观一些同性的家庭</s>
<time>572_00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:09,840</time>
<s>像我讲的这样子</s>
<time>573_00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,160</time>
<s>尽管面临身体和制度上的障碍</s>
<time>574_00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:19,200</time>
<s>却巧妙地利用政策的变化或者是新的生殖技术</s>
<time>575_00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:20,640</time>
<s>实现了生育的愿望</s>
<time>576_00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,440</time>
<s>所以在生育这个问题上</s>
<time>577_00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,040</time>
<s>同性恋家庭异性恋家庭两相对比</s>
<time>578_00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,000</time>
<s>好像发挥更重要作用的并不是个生物因素</s>
<time>579_00:28:30,360 --> 00:28:33,600</time>
<s>而是一个社会经济和法律政策的因素</s>
<time>580_00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,920</time>
<s>当然今天的同志家庭生孩子还是比较少的事情</s>
<time>581_00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:39,360</time>
<s>人数比较少</s>
<time>582_00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:45,480</time>
<s>所以说我觉得同志家庭对我来说更大的意义是在于</s>
<time>583_00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,800</time>
<s>他们体现了行动者对于社会结构的独创性和能动性</s>
<time>584_00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,120</time>
<s>因为大家知道同志家庭它不是基于血缘</s>
<time>585_00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,360</time>
<s>而是建立在个人选择友谊</s>
<time>586_00:28:57,720 --> 00:28:59,880</time>
<s>及承诺等超血缘的关系之上</s>
<time>587_00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,760</time>
<s>由个体创造出来的亲密关系</s>
<time>588_00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,000</time>
<s>这样的选择的家庭它挑战了基因</s>
<time>589_00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:12,120</time>
<s>在界定亲属关系和家庭中的特权地位</s>
<time>590_00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,440</time>
<s>而创造出了另类的亲属制度和家庭形态</s>
<time>591_00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,320</time>
<s>这并不意味着要放弃承诺或放弃责任</s>
<time>592_00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,200</time>
<s>大家看到阿正的故事或者说安妮的故事</s>
<time>593_00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:26,160</time>
<s>而是引导两者在新的家庭形态中进行重组</s>
<time>594_00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:31,560</time>
<s>从而为开创新的人际关系创造了更多的可能性</s>
<time>595_00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:33,000</time>
<s>看看今天中国当下</s>
<time>596_00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,960</time>
<s>一方面市场经济的发展让人际关系更加的疏离</s>
<time>597_00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,480</time>
<s>缺乏关爱缺乏信任</s>
<time>598_00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,440</time>
<s>另一方面制度和政策对个人的保障也不够</s>
<time>599_00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,040</time>
<s>让很多人感叹如果有一天我老无所依</s>
<time>600_00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:48,840</time>
<s>在很多人因此出现</s>
<time>601_00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,720</time>
<s>在社会中出现广泛的集体性的焦虑</s>
<time>602_00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,240</time>
<s>在这个剧烈的社会变迁之下</s>
<time>603_00:29:54,960 --> 00:30:01,080</time>
<s>当面临亲密关系育儿养老等诸多结构性困局</s>
<time>604_00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:02,160</time>
<s>同性恋社群</s>
<time>605_00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:06,480</time>
<s>在探索人际交往和社会连接方面的可能性方面</s>
<time>606_00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,360</time>
<s>或者是走在了前面的</s>
<time>607_00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:13,320</time>
<s>能够给主流社会以特别的启示</s>
<time>608_00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:15,840</time>
<s>此外在社会政策层面</s>
<time>609_00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,360</time>
<s>对于这些自下而上的</s>
<time>610_00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,240</time>
<s>民间开创的亲密关系的具体实践</s>
<time>611_00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:28,080</time>
<s>我希望政府和国家也能给予更多的支持和回应</s>
<time>612_00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:29,520</time>
<s>好谢谢大家</s>
